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Re: ***THE FARMERS CHED***

Postby pugboy » April 29th, 2017, 5:15 am

what wrong with the sithl supplied blade ?

I have the fs-120 and use the supplied stihl blade and the straight one for mowing no problem

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 29th, 2017, 6:02 am

pugboy wrote:what wrong with the sithl supplied blade ?

I have the fs-120 and use the supplied stihl blade and the straight one for mowing no problem


Its too small for the size of land I have to cut. It takes me too long to cut out the whole land is the issue, but a bigger blade would cut a larger area in the same time.

The one supplied with the 120 is I believe a 230mm

I looking at getting the 300mm / 12 inch on Amazon. My only concern is if it will damage the motor, most people who buy it on Amazon seem to be using it with weaker wackers like FS 90R and they say it working fine. It takes me 20 days to cut the land, which equals to 20 full tank of gas aswell.

I want to cut this by maybe half that time, its 1.25 Acres

My other option is hoping fine grass grows as I continue to spray the grass. Someone in my area spray his land and lucky him a set of small fine grass take over he entire land and he never has to cut grass ever again. Unfortunately for me I always get big grass growing.

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Postby adnj » April 29th, 2017, 6:42 am

Spot kill the tall grasses like sorghum and fox tail by spraying paraquat. Spray your yard with 2, 4-D. Over time you will get digitaria that will take over if the area is sunny. Cut the grass down to two or three inches and don't scalp it. If you scalp your yard, you will promote weed germination from seed.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 29th, 2017, 1:57 pm

adnj wrote:Spot kill the tall grasses like sorghum and fox tail by spraying paraquat. Spray your yard with 2, 4-D. Over time you will get digitaria that will take over if the area is sunny. Cut the grass down to two or three inches and don't scalp it. If you scalp your yard, you will promote weed germination from seed.


ooh thanks and yeah digitaria is the grass I hoping for that would be a dream didn't realize that was its name.

I normally use "swiper herbicide" which is like roundup spray so you are saying don' use that?

And yeah the whole land is very sunny

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Re: ***THE FARMERS CHED***

Postby adnj » April 29th, 2017, 4:54 pm

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ooh thanks and yeah digitaria is the grass I hoping for that would be a dream didn't realize that was its name.

I normally use "swiper herbicide" which is like roundup spray so you are saying don' use that?

And yeah the whole land is very sunny


Don't use glyphosate (Swiper/Roundup). Don't go beyond the recommended 2,4-D concentration. If you spray glyphosate, it may get into the stolons and kill the digitaria. Paraquat will kill the leaves nearby but the plant will live.

If you let the grass stay at about 3 to 5 inches, it will shade and smother most weeds cutting down the amount of herbicide that you will need to spray.

Digitaria is known as crabgrass in the US. It is a hardy grass that grows and spreads very quickly. What I see a lot of in Trinidad is Digitaria Ciliaris. It makes for a good turf grass.

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Re: ***THE FARMERS CHED***

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 29th, 2017, 5:01 pm

^ thanks dude will do.

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Re: ***THE FARMERS CHED***

Postby pugboy » April 30th, 2017, 7:16 am

20 days is a long time, by that time most of the cut areas will be growing again with weeds.

If crabgrass is resistant to 24d then better to use that, 24d also kills the stupid bird vine that is taking over the country which glyphosate does not

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Re: ***THE FARMERS CHED***

Postby lipstick war » May 1st, 2017, 10:15 pm

Amine 24d does wonders for whitetop even water grass,don't forget to add in a sufactant in the mix

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 1st, 2017, 10:44 pm

last time I spray and kill the bamboo grass it was replaced by something even worse a type of horrible vine that cover half the land and the bamboo grass from the abandoned land around me come back across and cover me up again. People does want to own land but refuse to maintain it and it becomes a nuisance to others.

Someone offered me $2000 for my FS 120 stihl wacker "still relatively new" the price new is around $3500 I am considering selling it for that price and buy the mist blower and be done with it.
it takes me 4 full back pack of poison in a regular cheap $500 spray can to cover 1 lot of land and I have 10 and a half in total to spray. I fedup carry around that heavy ass thing, spending so much money on chemicals.

But i swear a mist blower looks like magic look how much surface area this man covering with just 3.5 gallon of that poison. Looks like he covering 4 or 5 times the surface area with the same amount of poison.

How is that even possible?


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Postby adnj » May 2nd, 2017, 8:28 am

You'll be able to get grass if you cut it regularly. Most of the vines, plants and weeds that are around Trinidad will not tolerate frequent cutting. Grasses are the exception. If you rely on herbicides alone, you will only get the weeds that germinate (from seeds) or recover from rhizomes (bamboo).

Most of the weeds that "come back" are usually from seeds that have been in the soil and dormant for years or even decades. Clearing off the soil lets the seed get enough light to germinate.

You will use the same amount of herbicide no matter what application method that you use. Misting is often faster and more effective because it can cover more of the plant leaves with finer droplets in much less time but it can be more wasteful because of wind drift.

Is the property relatively flat or is it hilly with obstructions?

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Postby dude2014 » May 2nd, 2017, 11:03 am

I would not recommend mist blowers to spray herbicide as the potential for collateral damage is huge.

Saw a unit at UWI AgriTech from Trintrac that can handle large grassy areas. It looks like a lawn mower but carries multiple lines at .130mm and can chew grass A@se fast. So you do not have to tote it around. Not sure if it is self propelled, but there are such models

It is worth an enquiry ......................

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Postby adnj » May 2nd, 2017, 11:15 am

dude2014 wrote:I would not recommend mist blowers to spray herbicide as the potential for collateral damage is huge.

Saw a unit at UWI AgriTech from Trintrac that can handle large grassy areas. It looks like a lawn mower but carries multiple lines at .130mm and can chew grass A@se fast. So you do not have to tote it around. Not sure if it is self propelled, but there are such models

It is worth an enquiry ......................

Are you talking about a trail mower or a boom sprayer or something else?

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 2nd, 2017, 1:27 pm

adnj wrote:You'll be able to get grass if you cut it regularly. Most of the vines, plants and weeds that are around Trinidad will not tolerate frequent cutting. Grasses are the exception. If you rely on herbicides alone, you will only get the weeds that germinate (from seeds) or recover from rhizomes (bamboo).

Most of the weeds that "come back" are usually from seeds that have been in the soil and dormant for years or even decades. Clearing off the soil lets the seed get enough light to germinate.

You will use the same amount of herbicide no matter what application method that you use. Misting is often faster and more effective because it can cover more of the plant leaves with finer droplets in much less time but it can be more wasteful because of wind drift.

Is the property relatively flat or is it hilly with obstructions?


Its a flat property its just after the centenno government livestock station in El Carmen. I mean I saw my brother use his mist blower and he can cover a entire lot with just 1 tank. Would take me like 4 tanks. Unless I am spraying poorly? taking too long?

I could always try rushing through and not stopping to make sure all the leaves are soaked. But I am not sure if that bamboo grass will die if its not soaked properly?

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 2nd, 2017, 1:31 pm

dude2014 wrote:I would not recommend mist blowers to spray herbicide as the potential for collateral damage is huge.

Saw a unit at UWI AgriTech from Trintrac that can handle large grassy areas. It looks like a lawn mower but carries multiple lines at .130mm and can chew grass A@se fast. So you do not have to tote it around. Not sure if it is self propelled, but there are such models

It is worth an enquiry ......................


Well my land not so big, is only an acre and a quarter about 10 lots. So a mist blower could do it in one evening in about 4 hours. I just sick of the royal condor manual sprayer because it takes me like an evening of 2 hours to spray only 1 lot of land. So I have to walk around for very long times with this heavy thing a mist blower would finish that land in no time.

One thing though the coconut plans won't be affected by the mist, right? they are all short about 1 and a half year old some are 2 years old. But the smaller ones will definitely get hit by the mist.

My brother has a stihl mist blower the large ones he also plants coconuts in his piece of land and he says the swiper poison doesn't do the coconut plants anything. I tell my old man to help me out with ah $2500 for the mist blower so I waiting on him. The garden shop in St Helena opposite madrass road has either the Stihl SR 430 or SR 450 for $3500 I not sure which model but the SR 200 is $2800 I won't bother with that the tank is too small.

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Postby dude2014 » May 2nd, 2017, 1:57 pm

adnj wrote:
dude2014 wrote:I would not recommend mist blowers to spray herbicide as the potential for collateral damage is huge.

Saw a unit at UWI AgriTech from Trintrac that can handle large grassy areas. It looks like a lawn mower but carries multiple lines at .130mm and can chew grass A@se fast. So you do not have to tote it around. Not sure if it is self propelled, but there are such models

It is worth an enquiry ......................

Are you talking about a trail mower or a boom sprayer or something else?


No. It is a wheeled trimmer, made by Bear Cat machines - 5.5 HP. It can use blades also. The advantage is it can go around obstacles easily or areas where Ride on mower cannot go. There are some youtube videos on same ...........

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Postby dude2014 » May 2nd, 2017, 2:04 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
dude2014 wrote:I would not recommend mist blowers to spray herbicide as the potential for collateral damage is huge.

Saw a unit at UWI AgriTech from Trintrac that can handle large grassy areas. It looks like a lawn mower but carries multiple lines at .130mm and can chew grass A@se fast. So you do not have to tote it around. Not sure if it is self propelled, but there are such models

It is worth an enquiry ......................


Well my land not so big, is only an acre and a quarter about 10 lots. So a mist blower could do it in one evening in about 4 hours. I just sick of the royal condor manual sprayer because it takes me like an evening of 2 hours to spray only 1 lot of land. So I have to walk around for very long times with this heavy thing a mist blower would finish that land in no time.

One thing though the coconut plans won't be affected by the mist, right? they are all short about 1 and a half year old some are 2 years old. But the smaller ones will definitely get hit by the mist.

My brother has a stihl mist blower the large ones he also plants coconuts in his piece of land and he says the swiper poison doesn't do the coconut plants anything. I tell my old man to help me out with ah $2500 for the mist blower so I waiting on him. The garden shop in St Helena opposite madrass road has either the Stihl SR 430 or SR 450 for $3500 I not sure which model but the SR 200 is $2800 I won't bother with that the tank is too small.


Enquire if there is a shield for the spray nozzle. I would prefer not to take chance. Also brush cutting the grass around the plant and putting your back towards the tree is recommended. Royal Condors are boss spray cans and works like oil, because that is what the moving parts need .................

The effect in the short term may not be seen. Over time it can lead to low productivity of trees when it start to bear ............

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 2nd, 2017, 2:07 pm

^ I think I know what you talking about My brother has this BillyGoat outback he bought it in FT for $10,000 I believe.

It is a 14 HP Honda OHV Engine. he modified it to put front wheels, a bigger cutting deck and a larger blade he forged from a truck spring. Been going on for 10 years now and still works fine. He cuts like 4 Acres with it.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 2nd, 2017, 2:11 pm

dude2014 wrote:
Enquire if there is a shield for the spray nozzle. I would prefer not to take chance. Also brush cutting the grass around the plant and putting your back towards the tree is recommended. Royal Condors are boss spray cans and works like oil, because that is what the moving parts need .................

The effect in the short term may not be seen. Over time it can lead to low productivity of trees when it start to bear ............


Alright I will see if they have the shield for it. I normally cut the grass with the wacker and it creates manure in a sense but I will be getting a full time job soon and so won't have the time which is why I am suddenly in the market for the mist blower. The wacker takes me 15 days to cut the land at a full tank a day.

If it didn't have that cacahole living next door to the land who always setting fire I would not have to worry about spraying I would ah just cut around the trees in a small area.

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Postby dude2014 » May 2nd, 2017, 3:07 pm

Caca need ah Cakee, so instead of setting fire, he could play with someone other than himself ........

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Postby adnj » May 2nd, 2017, 6:30 pm

The walk behind mower would do your yard faster and better than a whacker or spraying or even a riding mower. I used a Gravely 42" and would cut 1 acre with some rolling areas in about an hour. You could go with a zero turn radius mower and finish in even less time. I guessing the current prices but you're probably looking at upwards of $30k.
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:^ I think I know what you talking about My brother has this BillyGoat outback he bought it in FT for $10,000 I believe.

It is a 14 HP Honda OHV Engine. he modified it to put front wheels, a bigger cutting deck and a larger blade he forged from a truck spring. Been going on for 10 years now and still works fine. He cuts like 4 Acres with it.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 2nd, 2017, 7:26 pm

Yeah my budget is pretty low the only thing that best fits me seems to be the SR 400 series mist blower. But those walk behind tractors are the real deal I will take a pic and show you guys what the UNC government did to my land. What they did a mist blower would be helpful for that first bed near the government road

In 2015 they sent a boxdrain contractor and what he did was build like 500 feet of Box drain then he dig it back out cause he build it too close to the road and he build the box drain AGAIN and reach my land which is a dead end, he dig up the damn place by the entrance to my land and dump the dirt and concrete and steel in my land, now water from everywhere is overflowing and coming into my land.

The contractor disappear, and leave the place in that state when I go up I go remember to carry my phone and take apic and show you guys what these people do. Them build box drain just for box drain sake the water doesn't even flow out to the mainroad because the drain they build is slanted to come down to my land. Contractor said he didn't know that was private property he was planning to go through my land and the neighbor.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 4th, 2017, 4:43 pm

Gentlemen, here she is at long last :D

This is the SR 430 got it at an amazing price of $3400 in the Garden shop in St Helena opposite madraass road

FT wants $4K

Now I have to decide if to keep the wacker or sell it.

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Postby HSA » May 10th, 2017, 6:21 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Gentlemen, here she is at long last :D

This is the SR 430 got it at an amazing price of $3400 in the Garden shop in St Helena opposite madraass road

FT wants $4K

Now I have to decide if to keep the wacker or sell it.

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sthil is one of the better brands out there. make sure and use your gas and oil ratio properly and it should last a lifetime... so hear na ED...3400 is alot consider you make approx 150 per week...daiz like 23 weeks....a good buy nonetheless

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Postby francis1979 » May 13th, 2017, 10:34 pm

Anyone knows what is eating the leaf and treatment

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Postby dude2014 » May 14th, 2017, 8:50 pm

Yeah franco. A picture would be nice. Most time it larvae or worm.

Movento from Caelsen Chem should be able to knock out most vectors. It is translaminar, meaning that it would be absorbed by the leaf and knock out what is on the other side. It is recommended to spray both side of the leaf for best result.

Hope that helps. Rotating with another pesticide will extend the range of insect vectors damaging your plants, except if it is something else ..........

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Postby francis1979 » May 15th, 2017, 7:58 am

francis1979 wrote:Anyone knows what is eating the leaf and treatment

Apologies. Could not upload from the app followed by unsuccessfully deleting of the post

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Postby joker » May 16th, 2017, 2:22 am

Off topic ... but most of the coconut trees in cedros are recovering .... I remember they brought in a specialist in red ring eradication ....looks like he got the job done...

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 17th, 2017, 6:52 am

he should make the trek to Manzanilla^

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Postby dude2014 » May 18th, 2017, 4:32 pm

joker wrote:Off topic ... but most of the coconut trees in cedros are recovering .... I remember they brought in a specialist in red ring eradication ....looks like he got the job done...


You would be surprised. He is a she from India. Go to any Chem shop and they will sell you pesticide to eradicate Red Ring mites. That is what took care of most of the problem. Blue soap also causes the sucking/biting parts to mal function as it slips when they try to do so ...........

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