PNM in Gov't (2020-2025)

[death365]

any body here did get thru with a post in roget an them company????

ah "hear" man reallllll sour cause the compensation package was good... no great.

[Kay_B]

if pnm did scrutinize the wgtl plant project like how they scrutinize spelling errors, we might not be where we are now.

Who knows? After all, only part of the information lies in plain sight, and how many agreements and decisions that are made remain outside the scope of public attention?

[sMASH]

Well if PNM was there, the GTL plant would have been finished and owned by the state with all the profits to the state. But the UNC in shear politics tried to sell it off as scrap only for a private entity to stop them and make them sell it undervalued since they admitted that it was scrap worthy.

Good job.

yeah, like iscott, ttmc1, tringen and the group of companies STILL known as petrotrin.

[zoom rader]

Well if PNM was there, the GTL plant would have been finished and owned by the state with all the profits to the state. But the UNC in shear politics tried to sell it off as scrap only for a private entity to stop them and make them sell it undervalued since they admitted that it was scrap worthy.

Good job.

yeah, like iscott, ttmc1, tringen and the group of companies STILL known as petrotrin.

You forgot Fertrin , but its ok as Habit7 never worked in industry to know these tings

[Redman]

So lets bring in decisions under entirely different world conditions from decades ago....but the 2010-2015 period is irrelevant.

[Habit7]

Well if PNM was there, the GTL plant would have been finished and owned by the state with all the profits to the state. But the UNC in shear politics tried to sell it off as scrap only for a private entity to stop them and make them sell it undervalued since they admitted that it was scrap worthy.

Good job.

yeah, like iscott, ttmc1, tringen and the group of companies STILL known as petrotrin.

LOL, they were attempted to be sold as scrap?

ISCOTT was sold by NAR
TTMC1 is receiving TAR proudly paid for by us.
Tringen suffered from the gas curtailment that you initially blamed on Rowley, which started before him
TPHL still making those billions in profits after Petrotrin restructure, cha ching!

What is your point?

[sMASH]

ttmc1 is trinidad and tobago methanol company, under MHTL which is proman now.
train 1 is atlantic lng, the one with the rowley sponsored 300m tar. the one if u wait till u get gas, u will only hadda pay a fraction for the same output.

[zoom rader]

Well if PNM was there, the GTL plant would have been finished and owned by the state with all the profits to the state. But the UNC in shear politics tried to sell it off as scrap only for a private entity to stop them and make them sell it undervalued since they admitted that it was scrap worthy.

Good job.

yeah, like iscott, ttmc1, tringen and the group of companies STILL known as petrotrin.

LOL, they were attempted to be sold as scrap?

ISCOTT was sold by NAR
TTMC1 is receiving TAR proudly paid for by us.
Tringen suffered from the gas curtailment that you initially blamed on Rowley, which started before him
TPHL still making those billions in profits after Petrotrin restructure, cha ching!

What is your point?

ISCOTT was leased then sold

Red government before NAR did not have the market

Plus it took the Indians to shake up the red government worker to make steel.
ISCOTT was like Wasa, a free for all with lots of ill qualified workers .

[Habit7]

ttmc1 is trinidad and tobago methanol company, under MHTL which is proman now.
train 1 is atlantic lng, the one with the rowley sponsored 300m tar. the one if u wait till u get gas, u will only hadda pay a fraction for the same output.

My mistake but that makes it even worst. MHTL was taken over under the PP. You all keep saying X is bad because the PNM did it, then I show you all that X happened under the UNC. Then it is either a backpedal on how bad it is or "stop blaming Kamla!"

Case in point ISCOTT leased in 1988 and sold in 1989 under NAR. This was because the US closed the market on our products as it was produced with subsidised fuel. In other words, external factors. But listening to you and ZR (the Trevor Sayers of T&T history) you will swear PNM run it into the ground and sold it themselves.

[zoom rader]

ttmc1 is trinidad and tobago methanol company, under MHTL which is proman now.
train 1 is atlantic lng, the one with the rowley sponsored 300m tar. the one if u wait till u get gas, u will only hadda pay a fraction for the same output.

My mistake but that makes it even worst. MHTL was taken over under the PP. You all keep saying X is bad because the PNM did it, then I show you all that X happened under the UNC. Then it is either a backpedal on how bad it is or "stop blaming Kamla!"

Case in point ISCOTT leased in 1988 and sold in 1989 under NAR. This was because the US closed the market on our products as it was produced with subsidised fuel. In other words, external factors. But listening to you and ZR (the Trevor Sayers of T&T history) you will swear PNM run it into the ground and sold it themselves.

The red government did not run ISCOTT to the ground.

In fact they never ran it how it was supposed to be ran .

The workmanship in ISCOTT was of poor quality . The staff they had was not suited for industry. The maintenance was very poor they had one DR plant as spare parts for the other DR plant which was always limping.

The executive board was very lazy and showed no zeal to find new markets. Everything in ISCOTT was all wrong.

Indians came in and found the markets while the old board was busy with rum, roti and trips abroad under the pretence of looking for markets

Ispat had to get rid of red government unless workers by giving them promotions and making their jobs redundant. Some was transferred to their Mexican plant where they had to resigned cause they could not do the job.

It took the Indians a year to turn it around. They even had a pundit come in to bless the plant over again to make steel and reduce Iron. I spent 3 years at that plant so its first hand knowledge here and not no reading as you do

A blatant shame to let backwater Indians come in and show Trinis his to make steel and sell it

[sMASH]

mhtl was under clico engeries that got taken over when theifcheira over night, pump out the fone book deal of how gortt gonna take over clico assets.

but ttmc was sold way before that when mhtl became the holding company when clico was still clico. before my time tho

[zoom rader]

mhtl was under clico engeries that got taken over when theifcheira over night, pump out the fone book deal of how gortt gonna take over clico assets.

but ttmc was sold way before that when mhtl became the holding company when clico was still clico. before my time tho

Habit7 never worked in Pt Lisas and knows very little.

All he does is sit and surf for mis leading articles on subject matter and tries to bring that as gospel truth to those that may not know.

The guy is one of those UWI cut and pase students from Jamaica

[sMASH]

tru a series of wheels and deals, ttmc1 and 2 is in the hands of the germans.

[Habit7]

mhtl was under clico engeries that got taken over when theifcheira over night, pump out the fone book deal of how gortt gonna take over clico assets.

but ttmc was sold way before that when mhtl became the holding company when clico was still clico. before my time tho

I realise you are purposefully vague about history because unlike zr you don't want to put your foot in your mouth and blame others for bringing proof and facts and other things he calls "mis leading articles on subject matter."

So lets be vague about the history for a moment. The point is why bring up TTMC1 if you don't know under what circumstance it was sold? As far as I can see MHTL was formed in 1999 to incorporate TTMC , CMC and MIV.

Is there any principle to things you reference or is it just that you work with the notion that PNM is bad and if a decision was made in the past that I am not aware of, PNM must have been involved somehow?

[sMASH]

ttmc was partly owned by trinidad, like so many other ventures, then the government eventually let it slip out of their hands into private entities, that ended up making the other owners significantly more rich. the method by which they get the stamp to get divested is like wasa, mv panorama, caroni 1975 ltd, we have a history of good ideas, a lot of money spent behind it, poor management then only for a savvy businessman to come along, scoop it up on the cheap and become mital.

is only 3 terms that WASNT run by pnm. and no non pnm term was consecutive. each time any party come in, it would be generations of pnm people infesting the org structures. so to learn the systems, u have to deal with the people, figure out the systems, while trying to get them to work, with people that got in because of contacts and links, not because of competence.

u cant fix it in just one 5 year term. heck it take pnm the whole term to get the pt fortain hospital up, and not even the pt fortain highway near completion. the PoS hospital block still underway, the arima hospital only around the end of the term.
kamla still get a hundred schools nearly completed, and why its kamla and not pnm, cause when they said it in parliament, they were asked by the pnm about the schools, the list was then read out subsequently, and no contest. if the plans ws from before, its kamla dem got the ball rolling and nearly to completion, with one 5yr term.

u have to sail the ship, while trying to understand the ship, and try to fix it, while dealing with crew that opposed to you, and not necessarily good at what they getting paid to do.

[Habit7]

ttmc was partly owned by trinidad, like so many other ventures, then the government eventually let it slip out of their hands into private entities, that ended up making the other owners significantly more rich. the method by which they get the stamp to get divested is like wasa, mv panorama, caroni 1975 ltd, we have a history of good ideas, a lot of money spent behind it, poor management then only for a savvy businessman to come along, scoop it up on the cheap and become mital.

is only 3 terms that WASNT run by pnm. and no non pnm term was consecutive. each time any party come in, it would be generations of pnm people infesting the org structures. so to learn the systems, u have to deal with the people, figure out the systems, while trying to get them to work, with people that got in because of contacts and links, not because of competence.

u cant fix it in just one 5 year term. heck it take pnm the whole term to get the pt fortain hospital up, and not even the pt fortain highway near completion. the PoS hospital block still underway, the arima hospital only around the end of the term.
kamla still get a hundred schools nearly completed, and why its kamla and not pnm, cause when they said it in parliament, they were asked by the pnm about the schools, the list was then read out subsequently, and no contest. if the plans ws from before, its kamla dem got the ball rolling and nearly to completion, with one 5yr term.

u have to sail the ship, while trying to understand the ship, and try to fix it, while dealing with crew that opposed to you, and not necessarily good at what they getting paid to do.

TTMC was allowed to slip into the hands of CLICO who collapsed.
WASA is 100% GoRTT.
MV Panorama was sold by the PP.
Caroni 1975 was a loss-making Tate & Lyle private estate that the govt bought to keep jobs but it still made losses year on year.
ISCOTT was sold by the NAR because we had no market, only the private sector had access to market.
UNC 1995-2000 was consecutive to 2000-2001, they collapsed when 3 UNC MPs decided to leave because they couldn't take the corruption.
Kamla 100 schools list was contested, I showed you that before and you lying again? https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2325160764207074

I understand you don't like PNM, but can't create your own "facts" and weave a story with them. And you all need to quit excusing Kamla for just having 5yrs but acting as if Rowley was there from 1956.

Be factual, be consistent.

[scotty_buttons]

…..

[sMASH]

be pnm country.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Because it belongs here

Penal side

[zoom rader]

^^^ Penal doh matter under the red government

[De Dragon]

Unitization when you are now on equal footing with the other shareholders who are the 2 entities who supply ALNG.

So one no longer need to control the supply because our interest are aligned with the other shareholders.

English.
Simple.

You seem not to understand a whole lot.

Equal footing? With a 10 per cent stake? Equal footing? When you're so facking out of your depth, and desperate that you have to foot the ENTIRE $300M cost of a TAR as a 10 per cent stakeholder. You real facking dotish and brainwashed, and now you're delusional too. That kinda logic only flies when you have your Junior LFD RFD PNM meetings bro.

[zoom rader]

ttmc was partly owned by trinidad, like so many other ventures, then the government eventually let it slip out of their hands into private entities, that ended up making the other owners significantly more rich. the method by which they get the stamp to get divested is like wasa, mv panorama, caroni 1975 ltd, we have a history of good ideas, a lot of money spent behind it, poor management then only for a savvy businessman to come along, scoop it up on the cheap and become mital.

is only 3 terms that WASNT run by pnm. and no non pnm term was consecutive. each time any party come in, it would be generations of pnm people infesting the org structures. so to learn the systems, u have to deal with the people, figure out the systems, while trying to get them to work, with people that got in because of contacts and links, not because of competence.

u cant fix it in just one 5 year term. heck it take pnm the whole term to get the pt fortain hospital up, and not even the pt fortain highway near completion. the PoS hospital block still underway, the arima hospital only around the end of the term.
kamla still get a hundred schools nearly completed, and why its kamla and not pnm, cause when they said it in parliament, they were asked by the pnm about the schools, the list was then read out subsequently, and no contest. if the plans ws from before, its kamla dem got the ball rolling and nearly to completion, with one 5yr term.

u have to sail the ship, while trying to understand the ship, and try to fix it, while dealing with crew that opposed to you, and not necessarily good at what they getting paid to do.

TTMC was allowed to slip into the hands of CLICO who collapsed.
WASA is 100% GoRTT.
MV Panorama was sold by the PP.
Caroni 1975 was a loss-making Tate & Lyle private estate that the govt bought to keep jobs but it still made losses year on year.
ISCOTT was sold by the NAR because we had no market, only the private sector had access to market.
UNC 1995-2000 was consecutive to 2000-2001, they collapsed when 3 UNC MPs decided to leave because they couldn't take the corruption.
Kamla 100 schools list was contested, I showed you that before and you lying again? https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2325160764207074

I understand you don't like PNM, but can't create your own "facts" and weave a story with them. And you all need to quit excusing Kamla for just having 5yrs but acting as if Rowley was there from 1956.

Be factual, be consistent.

All of what you listed is because the red government don't know how to run a business.

The ran the MV Panorama down to the rust , lack of maintenance . UNC was faced with a pile of red rust

Red government had all these years to learn and to run a business but they failed in every avenue.

But you all expect kams to correct the red government ills since 1956.

Keep licking Rowlair balls and you will get his hair on your tongue

[zoom rader]

Unitization when you are now on equal footing with the other shareholders who are the 2 entities who supply ALNG.

So one no longer need to control the supply because our interest are aligned with the other shareholders.

English.
Simple.

You seem not to understand a whole lot.

Equal footing? With a 10 per cent stake? Equal footing? When you're so facking out of your depth, and desperate that you have to foot the ENTIRE $300M cost of a TAR as a 10 per cent stakeholder. You real facking dotish and brainwashed, and now you're delusional too. That kinda logic only flies when you have your Junior LFD RFD PNM meetings bro.

How much time I have to tell you Redman and Habit7 never worked in industry so they only know what they surf on the net for .

[bluefete]

How DARE you take Faris rental money to fix road for commoners. Are you mad?

Because it belongs here. Penal side

[zoom rader]

How DARE you take Faris rental money to fix road for commoners. Are you mad?

Because it belongs here. Penal side

Red government not giving 1 black cent to those injun home owners

[De Dragon]

mhtl was under clico engeries that got taken over when theifcheira over night, pump out the fone book deal of how gortt gonna take over clico assets.

but ttmc was sold way before that when mhtl became the holding company when clico was still clico. before my time tho

Platic and P*ornHabit7 does talk like dey know something when they are dotish like a bag of rocks. The LFD RFD PNM took chain up from Duprey when he blatantly LIED and sold MHTL to Proman in spite of being under GORTT bail out. Just like they're equally dotish about the sale of WGTL to a known LFD RFD PNM lobbyist who got millions to lobby for WTF we don't know, declared less than 10% of it, got the plant for a pittance, and now these two nimrods want to tout it like the deal of the century when we've lost more than we'll ever receive from WGTL already. Tunts extraordinaire are these two.

[bluefete]

How you know what those home owners look like?

[zoom rader]

How you know what those home owners look like?

Oh please , does it look like HDC or Beetham Gardens .

You expect red government ppl to have nice homes? Wey you living.

[zoom rader]

mhtl was under clico engeries that got taken over when theifcheira over night, pump out the fone book deal of how gortt gonna take over clico assets.

but ttmc was sold way before that when mhtl became the holding company when clico was still clico. before my time tho

Platic and P*ornHabit7 does talk like dey know something when they are dotish like a bag of rocks. The LFD RFD PNM took chain up from Duprey when he blatantly LIED and sold MHTL to Proman in spite of being under GORTT bail out. Just like they're equally dotish about the sale of WGTL to a known LFD RFD PNM lobbyist who got millions to lobby for WTF we don't know, declared less than 10% of it, got the plant for a pittance, and now these two nimrods want to tout it like the deal of the century when we've lost more than we'll ever receive from WGTL already. Tunts extraordinaire are these two.

Those two clowns have never worked in industry. They only present misleading articles written by red government ojts .

They are cut and paste idiots

[De Dragon]

mhtl was under clico engeries that got taken over when theifcheira over night, pump out the fone book deal of how gortt gonna take over clico assets.

but ttmc was sold way before that when mhtl became the holding company when clico was still clico. before my time tho

Platic and P*ornHabit7 does talk like dey know something when they are dotish like a bag of rocks. The LFD RFD PNM took chain up from Duprey when he blatantly LIED and sold MHTL to Proman in spite of being under GORTT bail out. Just like they're equally dotish about the sale of WGTL to a known LFD RFD PNM lobbyist who got millions to lobby for WTF we don't know, declared less than 10% of it, got the plant for a pittance, and now these two nimrods want to tout it like the deal of the century when we've lost more than we'll ever receive from WGTL already. Tunts extraordinaire are these two.

Those two clowns have never worked in industry. They only present misleading articles written by red government ojts .

They are cut and paste idiots

They're on an exquisite level of dotish, but they could only pass that nonsense off to fellow dotishees like Tokesy and OJT elec to eat up