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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby AlphaMan » January 1st, 2024, 8:03 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
AlphaMan wrote:So funeral homes make a killing last year then no pun intended.
575 illegal deaths is alot. Imagine how many legal deaths occurred.( Natural Causes).
Around 12,000. That's the annual average up to around 2018

That's alot of deaths. :shock:

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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby FrankChag » January 2nd, 2024, 8:32 am

2023, 575

The raw figs are below, if you're interested.

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MONTH   1999   2018   2019   2020   2021   2022   2023
Jan      64   45   46   28   50   61
Feb      98   89   102   56   89   105
Mar      143   123   141   89   129   144
Apr      178   172   175   118   182   201
May      234   213   200   147   226   249
Jun      281   257   241   179   265   293
Jul      326   319   274   221   329   336
Aug      370   370   296   252   393   391
Sep      406   411   320   293   443   444
Oct      443   443   353   349   511   483
Nov      488   496   379   416   558   524
Dec      526   546   409   449   613   575
                     
   93   526   546   409   449   613   575
Source Threads:                     
2018      http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=718841               
2019      http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=737072               
2020      http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=750112               
2021      http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=759138               
2022      https://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=765674               
2023      https://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=770037               
                     
MONTH   1999   2018   2019   2020   2021   2022   2023
Jan      64   45   46   28   50   61
Feb      34   44   56   28   39   44
Mar      45   34   39   33   40   39
Apr      35   49   34   29   53   57
May      56   41   25   29   44   48
Jun      47   44   41   32   39   44
Jul      45   62   33   42   64   43
Aug      44   51   22   31   64   55
Sep      36   41   24   41   50   53
Oct      37   32   33   56   68   39
Nov      45   53   26   67   47   41
Dec      38   50   30   33   55   51
                     
TOTAL   93   526   546   409   449   613   575
AVERAGE      43.8   45.5   34.1   37.4   51.1   47.9


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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby FrankChag » January 2nd, 2024, 8:42 am

To anyone who claims a HUGE decline in the murder rate, should consider that the two months Jul-2022 and October 2022 were ABNORMALLY high (i.e., they were outliers). If you normalize them to about 45, you'll see that there is no significant improvement in the murder rate. In fact, it's probably still slightly increasing.

One should be asking what caused that blood-bath in 2022.

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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby FrankChag » January 2nd, 2024, 8:42 am

Link to 2024 thread:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=772971

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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby Dizzy28 » January 2nd, 2024, 9:26 am

AlphaMan wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
AlphaMan wrote:So funeral homes make a killing last year then no pun intended.
575 illegal deaths is alot. Imagine how many legal deaths occurred.( Natural Causes).
Around 12,000. That's the annual average up to around 2018

That's alot of deaths. :shock:


Our crude death rate is 9 per 100,000 which is also the average rate for middle income countries. The average for high income countries is actually 10 (could be b/c large parts of Europe are aging with low birth rates and a smaller younger population relatively speaking)

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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby mero » January 2nd, 2024, 9:55 am

AlphaMan wrote:
pugboy wrote:is a few funeral homes does do most of them gangster funerals
if the gangs were smart they would go into that business just like how they have competing music

Funeral business might be harder for them. Too competitive.
Easier to get government contracts.
Allyuh really have no idea about some of these big funeral home owners yes. Business just long term and regularized now.

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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby The_Honourable » January 2nd, 2024, 10:12 am

Good work FrankChag as always.

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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby FrankChag » January 2nd, 2024, 10:27 am

The_Honourable wrote:Good work FrankChag as always.


Thanks.

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Re: ***2023 murder toll thread***

Postby 16 cycles » March 3rd, 2024, 9:38 am

maj. tom wrote:
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/innocent-bystander-one-of-four-killed-in-curepe-shooting-6.2.1885931.8e866fee20

A Valsayn businesswoman was one of four people murdered in an afternoon shooting on the Churchill-Roosevelt Highway today.

Sources said Lana Sahadeo was at her Spring Village, Valsayn, home when the shooting began and was struck by a stray bullet.

Guardian Media visited the scene and was told by neighbours that Sahadeo who was in her fifties was the owner of the Silver Spoons Eatery in Akal Trace.

She was expected to leave TT days later to go on a trip to Florida.

Security camera footage of the shooting was circulated on social media which showed a white car crashing into a barrier at the side of the highway.

One of the men who were in the car at the time was shot and killed while the others were chased by gunmen and killed.

The survivor of the attack was a popular Trinibad artiste who survived another shooting in October.

This is a developing story and will be updated as more details come to hand.


https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 302c6.html


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