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Covid-19: France suspends 3,000 unvaccinated health workers
Is this protecting the Healthcare system , if we were to do this here in trinidad can you imagine the increased deaths due to less doctors and nurses. People on here bash the regular folk who not willing to vaccinate but these are professionals who blatantly refuse to vaccinate for whatever reason I guess we will call them small minded and judge them based on their personal choice as well.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?
who does that? again with your baseless attacks to drive ur own antivax and antichoice narrative.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:CDC study shows unvaccinated people are 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid[*}Unvaccinated people are about 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, according to a CDC study released Tuesday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-stu ... covid.html
[*}The new study also found that unvaccinated people were nearly five times more likely to be infected with Covid than vaccinated people.
[*}The data is in line with comments from federal and state health officials, who have been saying for weeks that millions of unvaccinated Americans have been putting themselves at serious risk.[/list]
hover11 wrote:With this knowledge, what would make health professionals turn down or refuse vaccinationDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:CDC study shows unvaccinated people are 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid[*}Unvaccinated people are about 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, according to a CDC study released Tuesday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-stu ... covid.html
[*}The new study also found that unvaccinated people were nearly five times more likely to be infected with Covid than vaccinated people.
[*}The data is in line with comments from federal and state health officials, who have been saying for weeks that millions of unvaccinated Americans have been putting themselves at serious risk.[/list]
st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:With this knowledge, what would make health professionals turn down or refuse vaccinationDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:CDC study shows unvaccinated people are 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid[*}Unvaccinated people are about 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, according to a CDC study released Tuesday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-stu ... covid.html
[*}The new study also found that unvaccinated people were nearly five times more likely to be infected with Covid than vaccinated people.
[*}The data is in line with comments from federal and state health officials, who have been saying for weeks that millions of unvaccinated Americans have been putting themselves at serious risk.[/list]
you tell us -- you have all the answers
hover11 wrote:I asking a genuine question? If you can't answer you don't need to speakst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:With this knowledge, what would make health professionals turn down or refuse vaccinationDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:CDC study shows unvaccinated people are 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid[*}Unvaccinated people are about 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, according to a CDC study released Tuesday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-stu ... covid.html
[*}The new study also found that unvaccinated people were nearly five times more likely to be infected with Covid than vaccinated people.
[*}The data is in line with comments from federal and state health officials, who have been saying for weeks that millions of unvaccinated Americans have been putting themselves at serious risk.[/list]
you tell us -- you have all the answers
hover11 wrote:I confused, are US hospitals supposed to be making a profit or saving lives? Last time i checked they are non profit and people are covered by insurance so whats the problem, an unvaxxed has the same rights to a hospital bed as anyone else in needadnj wrote:COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attackDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?
September 9, 2021 —
The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000).
People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.
Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays
The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.
A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400.
https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... art-attack
adnj wrote:hover11 wrote:I confused, are US hospitals supposed to be making a profit or saving lives? Last time i checked they are non profit and people are covered by insurance so whats the problem, an unvaxxed has the same rights to a hospital bed as anyone else in needadnj wrote:COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attackDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?
September 9, 2021 —
The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000).
People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.
Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays
The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.
A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400.
https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... art-attack
Canada - not the USA - they have a public health care system.
And so will you. Then you riot.hover11 wrote:Canada has always been expensive, it's just a big welfare state, you get money for basically anything up there , they accustom to high taxes loladnj wrote:hover11 wrote:I confused, are US hospitals supposed to be making a profit or saving lives? Last time i checked they are non profit and people are covered by insurance so whats the problem, an unvaxxed has the same rights to a hospital bed as anyone else in needadnj wrote:COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attackDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?
September 9, 2021 —
The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000).
People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.
Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays
The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.
A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400.
https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... art-attack
Canada - not the USA - they have a public health care system.
adnj wrote:And so will you. Then you riot.hover11 wrote:Canada has always been expensive, it's just a big welfare state, you get money for basically anything up there , they accustom to high taxes loladnj wrote:hover11 wrote:I confused, are US hospitals supposed to be making a profit or saving lives? Last time i checked they are non profit and people are covered by insurance so whats the problem, an unvaxxed has the same rights to a hospital bed as anyone else in needadnj wrote:COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attackDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?
September 9, 2021 —
The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000).
People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.
Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays
The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.
A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400.
https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... art-attack
Canada - not the USA - they have a public health care system.
st7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
hover11 wrote:Why must I riot and risk myself for the benefit of everyone and everyone not seeking their interests but I must seek the country's interest no thanks. If we were serious about good governance the people would be vocal and demonstrative, guess that's why it's easy for them to treat us like children and they are parents. Anyway back to covidst7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Why must I riot and risk myself for the benefit of everyone and everyone not seeking their interests but I must seek the country's interest no thanks. If we were serious about good governance the people would be vocal and demonstrative, guess that's why it's easy for them to treat us like children and they are parents. Anyway back to covidst7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
then why are you complaining? oh that's right, u want everyone to do the work to benefit you --- you really work for govt.
Mmoney607 wrote:Well by some of the logic on here, unhealthy people should may more taxes as they would use up more resources of the health care system.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?
People without comorbidities
Comorbidity refers to the presence of more than one diagnosis occurring in an individual at the same time.
It could be asthma, allergies, age, pregnancy, sickle cell etc.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tions.html
None of those are lifestyle diseases.
Perfectly healthy people, even athletes can be hospitalized from their body's reaction to Covid-19.
Different people react differently to viruses.
Most times it's your immune system's over-reaction to the virus that proves deadly - it's called a cytokine storm
https://www.newscientist.com/definition/cytokine-storm/
There are negative effects of long-covid even on athletes
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/3/3/2 ... -asia-durr
Vaccination is shown to greatly reduce that risk as your body's immune system was already trained to handle the coronavirus.
hover11 wrote:That's right work smart, not hardst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Why must I riot and risk myself for the benefit of everyone and everyone not seeking their interests but I must seek the country's interest no thanks. If we were serious about good governance the people would be vocal and demonstrative, guess that's why it's easy for them to treat us like children and they are parents. Anyway back to covidst7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
then why are you complaining? oh that's right, u want everyone to do the work to benefit you --- you really work for govt.
st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:That's right work smart, not hardst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Why must I riot and risk myself for the benefit of everyone and everyone not seeking their interests but I must seek the country's interest no thanks. If we were serious about good governance the people would be vocal and demonstrative, guess that's why it's easy for them to treat us like children and they are parents. Anyway back to covidst7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
then why are you complaining? oh that's right, u want everyone to do the work to benefit you --- you really work for govt.
well thats good. now work on being a better person towards women. i know i call you out and ketch u offguard but when a girl says 'no' ... respect her choice. thanks
hover11 wrote:That's right work smart, not hardst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Why must I riot and risk myself for the benefit of everyone and everyone not seeking their interests but I must seek the country's interest no thanks. If we were serious about good governance the people would be vocal and demonstrative, guess that's why it's easy for them to treat us like children and they are parents. Anyway back to covidst7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
then why are you complaining? oh that's right, u want everyone to do the work to benefit you --- you really work for govt.
Mmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:That's right work smart, not hardst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Why must I riot and risk myself for the benefit of everyone and everyone not seeking their interests but I must seek the country's interest no thanks. If we were serious about good governance the people would be vocal and demonstrative, guess that's why it's easy for them to treat us like children and they are parents. Anyway back to covidst7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
then why are you complaining? oh that's right, u want everyone to do the work to benefit you --- you really work for govt.
Yup
adnj wrote:hover11 wrote:That's right work smart, not hardst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Why must I riot and risk myself for the benefit of everyone and everyone not seeking their interests but I must seek the country's interest no thanks. If we were serious about good governance the people would be vocal and demonstrative, guess that's why it's easy for them to treat us like children and they are parents. Anyway back to covidst7 wrote:well why dont u riot?
just another keyboard warrior eh
then why are you complaining? oh that's right, u want everyone to do the work to benefit you --- you really work for govt.
Hard times coming for the bureaucrats.st7 wrote:the govt worker mentality --- sufferers oui... contribute nothing, but want everything.
small minds again
st7 wrote:the govt worker mentality --- sufferers oui... contribute nothing, but want everything.
small minds again
adnj wrote:Hard times coming for the bureaucrats.st7 wrote:the govt worker mentality --- sufferers oui... contribute nothing, but want everything.
small minds again
Imbert: Over $5b spent on covid
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/08/16/imbert ... -on-covid/
hover11 wrote:Yup all government workers are sufferers....just collecting pay with less work .You got usst7 wrote:the govt worker mentality --- sufferers oui... contribute nothing, but want everything.
small minds again
DMan7 wrote:Looks like our boi hoover has blood on his hands this time.
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