PNM in Gov't (2020-2025)

[zoom rader]

"For a man who is not shy about boasting constantly, almost with every sentence he utters, about the great job he has done, led by Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, it is now almost painful to see clearly that the rollout is at best stuttering if not stalled".
Habit7 only has a problem with Curtis Williams when he writes about the truth. Curtis Williams is the premier economic and energy journalist who took the mantle from the late David Renwick. The exceedingly embarrassing vaccine debacle has shown up T&T AGAIN, and to attack the messenger while ignoring the stark reality that we were misled, is the hallmark off a rabid LFD RFD PNM apologist.

Where was Habit7 to highlight when red government agents pretending to journalists who are now red government minsters.

Habit7 full ah 5hit

[De Dragon]

"For a man who is not shy about boasting constantly, almost with every sentence he utters, about the great job he has done, led by Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, it is now almost painful to see clearly that the rollout is at best stuttering if not stalled".
Habit7 only has a problem with Curtis Williams when he writes about the truth. Curtis Williams is the premier economic and energy journalist who took the mantle from the late David Renwick. The exceedingly embarrassing vaccine debacle has shown up T&T AGAIN, and to attack the messenger while ignoring the stark reality that we were misled, is the hallmark off a rabid LFD RFD PNM apologist.

Where was Habit7 to highlight when red government agents pretending to journalists who are now red government minsters.

Habit7 full ah 5hit

He had orn he red tints...................................

[De Dragon]

Yeah smash...we should have sold it for scrap.

Dummies praising a plant that cost us $1.5B to build that will pay back $2B OVER THE LIFE OF THE PLANT, only to be sold for a pittance as some sort of act deserving of praise. These arse lickers will sanction ANYTHING LFD RFD PNM. Malcolm Jones went to his grave in peace thanks to Arse Wari's direct intervention, coming AFTER PT had already filed a suit. Now, did someone in PT Legal wake up one morning and decide that? No, they would have done their homework on the possible success of a prosecution, but Arse Wari went with disgraced and corrupt Nelson's opinion.

[Redress10]

No schools in TT are "prestigious" schools. That's the first myth that trinis need to get over. Unless you are paying for your education then it can't be prestigious. Prestige comes at a costs and it is usually pretty hefty sum. Think about any reputable boarding school in the world, they cost about 30000 usd per year on average just for education.

Our schools are funded by taxpayers and student selection is manipulated to give the wealthy and connected an advantage. That is the sole purpose of the 20%. This just allows the wealthy to save money from not having to privately fund their children's education for 5 years leading up to o'levels.

Most wealthy ppl send their kids to one of the international schools after o'levels to get them ready for us or canada college. Again, those schools are not prestigious neither.

This notion of prestigious vs government school is keeping our entire education system back. I think "prestigious" schools should become completely private operating without any government funds. Let's see how long they will last. Remember prestigious schools teachers are trained and paid by the state. So there is nothing different between learning at a gov't school vs prestigious school. Same curriculum and exam everything.

[teems1]

No schools in TT are "prestigious" schools. That's the first myth that trinis need to get over. Unless you are paying for your education then it can't be prestigious. Prestige comes at a costs and it is usually pretty hefty sum. Think about any reputable boarding school in the world, they cost about 30000 usd per year on average just for education.

Our schools are funded by taxpayers and student selection is manipulated to give the wealthy and connected an advantage. That is the sole purpose of the 20%. This just allows the wealthy to save money from not having to privately fund their children's education for 5 years leading up to o'levels.

Most wealthy ppl send their kids to one of the international schools after o'levels to get them ready for us or canada college. Again, those schools are not prestigious neither.

This notion of prestigious vs government school is keeping our entire education system back. I think "prestigious" schools should become completely private operating without any government funds. Let's see how long they will last. Remember prestigious schools teachers are trained and paid by the state. So there is nothing different between learning at a gov't school vs prestigious school. Same curriculum and exam everything.

Everyone is all for societal harmony and love to say "all of we is Trini" until it comes to their child.

Then the gloves come off.

Go look at the failure rates in CXC. 2020 was an anomaly but in 2019 it was 50% Math and 45% English A failure rates.

There's a reason parents want to separate their children from those who don't want to learn.

[Redress10]

Teems

The children doing well is not because of the school or any opportunity that the school provides. It's because of the dedicated parents who focus on their children.

The system designed for the rich and connected to benefit off the backs of taxpayers via the concordat. Let those schools turn private and see how long they last. Let government focus on creating "prestigious" government schools where selection is strictly.merit based and no more 20%.

Right now it is not based on merit. It is only based on merit when poor Kwame and Raj need a place. Rich and connected ppl know what school their children going before they even sit SEA. They know this because years before they start befriending school administrators by donating to the school etc. This is essentially bribery. They also game the system via "private" primary schools. So sending your child bishops jr is a short cut into bishops girls etc.

The SEA is really for the few with little or no connections "hoping" to pass.

The failure rate is because government ministers own children don't go to government schools so why would they improve them. Hear nah, some of alluh aint understand the kinda wool these ppl pull over alluh eyes. The business class and political class basically colluding to rob taxpayers blind in every single aspect of life in Trinidad and Tobago.

[Rory Phoulorie]

high way to pt fortain is a major initiative. a way better initiative than a highway to no where. hundred+ schools started and near completion, a way better way to pull the red and ready hotspots out of crime than a pool. kamala laptop program.... apart from the concordat, is one of the best education initiatives in education to propel the youth into the present(cause we was trapped in the past before).

compared to PNM that only real money earner is ticket and tax. road like sheit, but is ticket for ur number plate. tax like woah, but stagnating the economy, eviscerating the job creating atmosphere... unless u call windscreen washing 'job creation'.

Just a FYI.

The highway to Point Fortin was initiated and designed under the PNM. Moonilal of the PP went and gathered up some south people and protested the construction of said highway during the design and public consultation stage under the PNM.

All of a sudden, when PP come into power, they no longer had an issue with the highway.

With respect to that Build 100 schools programme under the PP, you need to go check the quality control records and see whether what was built was done to the required specifications. I have checked the quality control records of some ECCECs, primary schools and secondary schools and I have seen some frightening things with respect to the quality control on those projects. I am glad the projects that I have looked at have not been open to the public and will do what I can to not have them open until the issues have been fixed.

i cant recall that it started earlier. but, its good that it started. i only remember that it was during pp time, and tanty telling kamala to run the highway between she leg... the highway reroute movement.


eccec schools, didnt come across the qc concerns, was never made a point to go against them. many of them near to completion. should have gone the route of the biche highschool, evaluated what needs to get which on track, and which is most necessary and pumped out at least a few.
frightening or not, this is the first that i am being made aware of it, a whole term and more after they left office.

again, if people wasting tax money, go after the wasters ! or is only kamala good enough to recoup govt money?

Rory does only point things under PP

You never here him ill speak the red government

Rory is a suck balls red government agent.

He falls in line with p¤rnhabit 7 & Redman.

Dem never point out anything bad under the red government

ZR,

You have a very convenient memory. Go check the corruption thread and you would see where I highlighted crap and corruption under the PNM.

You want something bad under the PNM at present? That highway in Cumuto to nowhere. The tenderer that got the highway construction contract should have never been awarded that contracted on their piss poor performance on previous infrastructure contracts for the same State enterprise that awarded that contract.

How that tenderer got past the prequalification process in that State enterprise is anyone's guess.

I am actually considering applying for the prequalification report for that project under the Freedom of Information Act because I really need to see how that tenderer made the cut.

[MaxPower]

The children doing well is not because of the school or any opportunity that the school provides. It's because of the dedicated parents who focus on their children

[De Dragon]

while other first world countries giving out monthly stimulus checks... focus on the stimulus part, cause stimulus means they want to stimulate business keeping people running, trinidad push people on the breadline.
profit was not the only reason to shut it down, instead of keeping it open to go tru is streamlining process.

Yep and those firstworld countries Debt to GDP is north of 100% yet you complaining about Petrotrin debt created by the PNM-
more of your half way logic and memory.

Hold on, we're almost there thanks to JUHN Scarfy and Co.

[zoom rader]

high way to pt fortain is a major initiative. a way better initiative than a highway to no where. hundred+ schools started and near completion, a way better way to pull the red and ready hotspots out of crime than a pool. kamala laptop program.... apart from the concordat, is one of the best education initiatives in education to propel the youth into the present(cause we was trapped in the past before).

compared to PNM that only real money earner is ticket and tax. road like sheit, but is ticket for ur number plate. tax like woah, but stagnating the economy, eviscerating the job creating atmosphere... unless u call windscreen washing 'job creation'.

Just a FYI.

The highway to Point Fortin was initiated and designed under the PNM. Moonilal of the PP went and gathered up some south people and protested the construction of said highway during the design and public consultation stage under the PNM.

All of a sudden, when PP come into power, they no longer had an issue with the highway.

With respect to that Build 100 schools programme under the PP, you need to go check the quality control records and see whether what was built was done to the required specifications. I have checked the quality control records of some ECCECs, primary schools and secondary schools and I have seen some frightening things with respect to the quality control on those projects. I am glad the projects that I have looked at have not been open to the public and will do what I can to not have them open until the issues have been fixed.

i cant recall that it started earlier. but, its good that it started. i only remember that it was during pp time, and tanty telling kamala to run the highway between she leg... the highway reroute movement.


eccec schools, didnt come across the qc concerns, was never made a point to go against them. many of them near to completion. should have gone the route of the biche highschool, evaluated what needs to get which on track, and which is most necessary and pumped out at least a few.
frightening or not, this is the first that i am being made aware of it, a whole term and more after they left office.

again, if people wasting tax money, go after the wasters ! or is only kamala good enough to recoup govt money?

Rory does only point things under PP

You never here him ill speak the red government

Rory is a suck balls red government agent.

He falls in line with p¤rnhabit 7 & Redman.

Dem never point out anything bad under the red government

ZR,

You have a very convenient memory. Go check the corruption thread and you would see where I highlighted crap and corruption under the PNM.

You want something bad under the PNM at present? That highway in Cumuto to nowhere. The tenderer that got the highway construction contract should have never been awarded that contracted on their piss poor performance on previous infrastructure contracts for the same State enterprise that awarded that contract.

How that tenderer got past the prequalification process in that State enterprise is anyone's guess.

I am actually considering applying for the prequalification report for that project under the Freedom of Information Act because I really need to see how that tenderer made the cut.

Please do highlight and show these red government ill deeds cause people like Habit7, Redman and eliteauto won't highlight their party corruption .

[zoom rader]

Teems

The children doing well is not because of the school or any opportunity that the school provides. It's because of the dedicated parents who focus on their children.

The system designed for the rich and connected to benefit off the backs of taxpayers via the concordat. Let those schools turn private and see how long they last. Let government focus on creating "prestigious" government schools where selection is strictly.merit based and no more 20%.

Right now it is not based on merit. It is only based on merit when poor Kwame and Raj need a place. Rich and connected ppl know what school their children going before they even sit SEA. They know this because years before they start befriending school administrators by donating to the school etc. This is essentially bribery. They also game the system via "private" primary schools. So sending your child bishops jr is a short cut into bishops girls etc.

The SEA is really for the few with little or no connections "hoping" to pass.

The failure rate is because government own children don't go to government schools so why would they improve them. Hear nah, some of alluh aint understand the kinda wool these ppl pull over alluh eyes. The business class and political class basically colluding to rob taxpayers blind in every single aspect of life in Trinidad and Tobago.

This is correct, plus parents don't want their kids mixing with the hooligans.

[Redress10]

The system is mass producing hooligans. There are less "prestigious" schools than there are government schools so there will always be a fight for places. Not to mention the bribery that takes place.

Let us say that 20k students sit exams and only 3000 get to go to a "prestigious" school each year. Are we telling 17000 students at the age of 12 that their lives don't matter? They have no value?

How is it acceptable that we write off 15000+ of our children each year based on an exam. What happens when you attach stigma to their education and treat them like second class citizens at such a young age then obviously they gonna end up like hooligans. The prestigious schools are already breathing hooligans and that is with parental support and guidance. But Anal Roberts could go Fatima and act like a literal hooligan and be given a pass by society though.

My solution is this. Strictly based on merit. Same SEA exam for now but no more concordat and 20%. If the concordat remains then the 20% has to go. Zoning to be enforced so a child living South stays in south etc except for mitigating circumstances such as both parents working POS for example.

The purpose of SEA for me would be one to place students with likeminded students. That would determine the pace of the curriculum being taught at certain schools. So basically if 20000 students sit an exam then the best performing 100 end up in a school together then the second 100 end up in another school and so on.

The further down you go in list the less "prestigious" or academically rigourous the school becomes. Now note I don't mean less funding or attention would be given to those schools. All this means is that the smarter children would have an expanded and possibly accelerated school curriculum. There may be greater focus on STEM from a young age. Think about the same prestigious school system but based strictly on merit.

Now as parents it would be up to you and your child ro decide just how much pressure you are willing to accept to pursue academics.

I know a girl who passed for a jr sec and daddy made a call and she ended up in a Convent.

[De Dragon]

Amazing how many people feel that their children cannot succeed in a non-"prestigious? school,

[teems1]

Yes the 20% exists but that entire allocation isn't only for the 1%.

The real debate is "whether a rising tide raises all ships" vs "one rotten apple spoils the barrel".

When it comes to 11-20 years going through puberty and are impressionable, it's often easier to slide downward than upwards.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

The system is mass producing hooligans. There are less "prestigious" schools than there are government schools so there will always be a fight for places. Not to mention the bribery that takes place.

Let us say that 20k students sit exams and only 3000 get to go to a "prestigious" school each year. Are we telling 17000 students at the age of 12 that their lives don't matter? They have no value?

How is it acceptable that we write off 15000+ of our children each year based on an exam. What happens when you attach stigma to their education and treat them like second class citizens at such a young age then obviously they gonna end up like hooligans. The prestigious schools are already breathing hooligans and that is with parental support and guidance. But Anal Roberts could go Fatima and act like a literal hooligan and be given a pass by society though.

My solution is this. Strictly based on merit. Same SEA exam for now but no more concordat and 20%. If the concordat remains then the 20% has to go. Zoning to be enforced so a child living South stays in south etc except for mitigating circumstances such as both parents working POS for example.

The purpose of SEA for me would be one to place students with likeminded students. That would determine the pace of the curriculum being taught at certain schools. So basically if 20000 students sit an exam then the best performing 100 end up in a school together then the second 100 end up in another school and so on.

The further down you go in list the less "prestigious" or academically rigourous the school becomes. Now note I don't mean less funding or attention would be given to those schools. All this means is that the smarter children would have an expanded and possibly accelerated school curriculum. There may be greater focus on STEM from a young age. Think about the same prestigious school system but based strictly on merit.

Now as parents it would be up to you and your child ro decide just how much pressure you are willing to accept to pursue academics.

I know a girl who passed for a jr sec and daddy made a call and she ended up in a Convent.

As long as SDMS and ASJA around....nothing gonna change

[De Dragon]

The system is mass producing hooligans. There are less "prestigious" schools than there are government schools so there will always be a fight for places. Not to mention the bribery that takes place.

Let us say that 20k students sit exams and only 3000 get to go to a "prestigious" school each year. Are we telling 17000 students at the age of 12 that their lives don't matter? They have no value?

How is it acceptable that we write off 15000+ of our children each year based on an exam. What happens when you attach stigma to their education and treat them like second class citizens at such a young age then obviously they gonna end up like hooligans. The prestigious schools are already breathing hooligans and that is with parental support and guidance. But Anal Roberts could go Fatima and act like a literal hooligan and be given a pass by society though.

My solution is this. Strictly based on merit. Same SEA exam for now but no more concordat and 20%. If the concordat remains then the 20% has to go. Zoning to be enforced so a child living South stays in south etc except for mitigating circumstances such as both parents working POS for example.

The purpose of SEA for me would be one to place students with likeminded students. That would determine the pace of the curriculum being taught at certain schools. So basically if 20000 students sit an exam then the best performing 100 end up in a school together then the second 100 end up in another school and so on.

The further down you go in list the less "prestigious" or academically rigourous the school becomes. Now note I don't mean less funding or attention would be given to those schools. All this means is that the smarter children would have an expanded and possibly accelerated school curriculum. There may be greater focus on STEM from a young age. Think about the same prestigious school system but based strictly on merit.

Now as parents it would be up to you and your child ro decide just how much pressure you are willing to accept to pursue academics.

I know a girl who passed for a jr sec and daddy made a call and she ended up in a Convent.

As long as SDMS and ASJA around....nothing gonna change

Don't forget RC too......

[Redress10]

One phone call...swish from jr sec to convent. Bypassing gov't sec and sen comprehensive and going straight to Convent.

They fooling people and telling them SEA is the way whilst them doing all kinda backroom deals to get their children an advantage and to further pull wool over the country's eyes each year they give out Sea "awards" to make it look like the system is based on merit.

The real SEA placement done take place depending on where the child living and who their parents know. Years before that child born they already have a place in a school of their parents standing.

Bullchit

[zoom rader]

One phone call...swish from jr sec to convent. Bypassing gov't sec and sen comprehensive and going straight to Convent.

They fooling people and telling them SEA is the way whilst them doing all kinda backroom deals to get their children an advantage and to further pull wool over the country's eyes each year they give out Sea "awards" to make it look like the system is based on merit.

The real SEA placement done take place depending on where the child living and who their parents know. Years before that child born they already have a place in a school of their parents standing.

Bullchit

It's not really 20% but more like 30%

Cause the church is 20 % then you have government minsters giving orders to Minster of Ed on who they want in .

So 30% who really deserve to be there will be getting to train with hooligans

[Redress10]

I feel it's probably more than that. Possibly over 50%.

Equality yeh

The real hooligans are all of those who didn't earn their place honestly. That's where the bad habits start.

[sMASH]

trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar

[De Dragon]

trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar

Yet you have a couple twits here trying to make JUHN Scarfy sound like some economic genius for giving away a plant to an ex LFD RFD PNM lobbyist. If he shat out a turd directly on their heads, I suspect they'd cheer

[zoom rader]

trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar

Petrotrin made ah profit of 800mill but no account for where the money was spent or where it went.

On top of that 1.5 billion gone from HSF

I think we seeing Panama all over again

[Habit7]

trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar

Yet you have a couple twits here trying to make JUHN Scarfy sound like some economic genius for giving away a plant to an ex LFD RFD PNM lobbyist. If he shat out a turd directly on their heads, I suspect they'd cheer

Your attempt to insult and namecall would land a harder punch if at least half of the time you were actually right.

"NiQuan reached final agreement on the commercial terms and all other outstanding issues on or about August 5, 2015. The proposal was accepted by the Board of Directors and the transaction was subsequently sanctioned by the Minister of Finance, (Corporation Sole)."
https://www.energy.gov.tt/wp-content/up ... roject.pdf

[Habit7]

trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar

Petrotrin made ah profit of 800mill but no account for where the money was spent or where it went.

On top of that 1.5 billion gone from HSF

I think we seeing Panama all over again

see goalpost change below

[sMASH]

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/13/associ ... ompletion/

Associated Brands CEO reports factory in Colombia nears completion
Ria Chaitram Yesterday
Trade and Industry Minister Paula Gopee-Scoon, Associated Brands Industries Ltd (ABIL) chairman Arthur Lok Jack, centre, and ABIL deputy chairman and CEO Nicholas Lok Jack at a tour of a factory on Monday. -
Trade and Industry Minister Paula Gopee-Scoon, Associated Brands Industries Ltd (ABIL) chairman Arthur Lok Jack, centre, and ABIL deputy chairman and CEO Nicholas Lok Jack at a tour of a factory on Monday. -

Associated Brands Industries Ltd (ABIL), a local snack foods and cereals manufacturer, is capturing new markets outside the Caricom region.

The company which manufacturers chocolate confectionery, biscuits, snack foods and breakfast cereals is nearing completion of a manufacturing factory in Bogota, Colombia.

At a tour of one of its factory in on Monday, with Trade and Industry Minister Paula Gopee-Scoon, the group’s deputy chairman and CEO Nicholas Lok Jack said the company’s modernisation and expansion was a natural part of its business growth.

“Despite significant investments in our Trinidad and Tobago factories our group has also been investing heavily outside Caricom and is in the completion phase of a Greenfield manufacturing factory in Bogota, Colombia, he said in a statement on Friday.

“While investment in a physical factory is important, investment in the marketplace in intangible assets like brands is also critical.”

ABIL currently markets and distributes products in over 45 countries which includes Colombia, the Dominican Republic, Panama, Costa Rica, Ireland, Taiwan, the US, the Middle East, the Mediterranean and Caricom countries. It employs over 1,000 people in TT in its four factories locally, ABIL also has two factories in Malta and now one in Colombia. Its headquarters is at Bhagoutie Trace, San Juan.

Gopee-Scoon said she was pleased with the group’s innovation, use of technology and continued investment in their manufacturing and production processes

“The growth and expansion of ABIL over the years is as a direct result of their ongoing drive to penetrate new markets and diversify their product offering. This current expansion will further aid this agenda and increase the global competitiveness of your various product lines," she said.

“The government remains committed to providing the necessary support to businesses seeking to meet international standards and quality, enter new markets and increase their exports.”

Also present at the tour was ABIL’s chairman Arthur Lok Jack.

read the tea leaves.

this shows this business is successful and doing the things right.
the problem is, to be successful, they found it necessary to open factories OUTSIDE of trinidad. when the push should be to produce things here and export, the numbers dictated that a local producer manufacture OUTSIDE of trinidad, and eventually ship it here.

isnt TCL doing sumting like that? producing outside, importing it and repackaging it here?

[sMASH]

yeah, re invested in a few financiers pockets. like ngc funding train 1 turnaround.

[Habit7]

You need to read an economics book and not tea leaves. Associated Brands sees it necessary to open factories where the market is to avoid import tarrifs. That is good.
However the profits are repatriated to T&T bringing in a source of forex.

In the same way a Mexican company CEMEX bought majority shareholding in Trinidad Cement Limited to repatriate the profits back to Mexico.

[De Dragon]

trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar

Yet you have a couple twits here trying to make JUHN Scarfy sound like some economic genius for giving away a plant to an ex LFD RFD PNM lobbyist. If he shat out a turd directly on their heads, I suspect they'd cheer

Your attempt to insult and namecall would land a harder punch if at least half of the time you were actually right.

"NiQuan reached final agreement on the commercial terms and all other outstanding issues on or about August 5, 2015. The proposal was accepted by the Board of Directors and the transaction was subsequently sanctioned by the Minister of Finance, (Corporation Sole)."
https://www.energy.gov.tt/wp-content/up ... roject.pdf

That's your rebuttal?
Wasn't Gill a LFD RFD PNM lobbyist?
Didn't Malcolm Jones all but ensure that we were on the hook for the Billions that WGTL couldn't secure by making PT the guarantor?
I eh know about your maths, but $2B (25 years to get that too ) minus the $400 million $USD that the plant eventually cost, isn't a model that I'd boast about
I only glad for the brethren who'll get jobs there, but the events surrounding this plant stink, and will forever remain so no matter how much spin you try to put on it.

[De Dragon]

You need to read an economics book and not tea leaves. Associated Brands sees it necessary to open factories where the market is to avoid import tarrifs. That is good.
However the profits are repatriated to T&T bringing in a source of forex.

In the same way a Mexican company CEMEX bought majority shareholding in Trinidad Cement Limited to repatriate the profits back to Mexico.

Gasp! I actually with P*rnHabit7 on this one

[sMASH]

that is the bill for the plant, but not the actual worth of the plant. people who were there while it was building know the kinda ratchifie that that project was. u do a commission of inquiry into to that, and u will get the definition of Cat-in-Bag