Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

[Mmoney607]

We not disputing that Duane, what we are saying is that the mortality rate is 3 percent for covid in Trinidad however we were looking at your chance of dying from common day occurrences

^ road accidents, injuries and fatalities are not highly contagious though

But those common day activities - even diseases with the highest mortality rate locally such as heart disease and diabetes - are not highly contagious.
Covid is highly contagious - that is why vaccination is important.
Not sure what your point is.

Highly contagious and airborne. The only way to 100% prevent yourself from getting it is to shut of all contact with the outside world. For some people they are happy with the vaccine, some other happy with no protection. Its up to everyone what level of risk they are willing to accept.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ that has been overwhelming the health care systems around the world though - preventing others from access as well.

[st7]

Your body , your choice

this man exhausting. on and on he will relentlessly try to shove anti-vax propaganda down everyone throats while preach at the same time 'mY bOdY, My ChOiCe'. once your choice is not his, he will relentlessly attack.

somehow i feel he is the kinda guy who does harass women on whatsapp with sex messages when they tell him 'no' multiple times before blocking him?

you are a toxic person - strive to be a better person and please seek help.

your mantra is 'your body, my choice' given your actions on here where you dont like people not picking your choice.

i pray u have never tell women that, or assaulted any.

[hover11]

Ask Bill gates, who invested heavily in this vaccination programme and wants vaccines to be mandatory across the world

Your body , your choice

this man exhausting. on and on he will relentlessly try to shove anti-vax propaganda down everyone throats while preach at the same time 'mY bOdY, My ChOiCe'. once your choice is not his, he will relentlessly attack.

somehow i feel he is the kinda guy who does harass women on whatsapp with sex messages when they tell him 'no' multiple times before blocking him?

you are a toxic person - strive to be a better person and please seek help.

your mantra is 'your body, my choice' given your actions on here where you dont like people not picking your choice.

i pray u have never tell women that, or assaulted any.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

[Mmoney607]

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

Nothing wrong with conspiracy theories. Throughout history and even in this pandemic, many have proven to be true.

[hover11]

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests PCR etc, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

[j.o.e]

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

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I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

[hover11]

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

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I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

[gastly369]

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

*lemme google/research that for yah

Lovingly
Hover11

[Yofoot]

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests PCR etc, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

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Why do I have to get a VISA to travel to your country? You are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

Their country their rules, hope Trinidad follows suit soon.

[timelapse]

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

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I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

I posted here a list of countries that require vaccines pre covid against diseases such as typhoid, malaria and yellow fever.It was to answer this exact question.Go on, play dumb

[hover11]

Those restrictions weren't on going only certain periods like I told you I visited when it wasn't a requirement simple....yellow fever and malaria surges passed after sometime

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

FB_IMG_1631810320614.jpg

I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

I posted here a list of countries that require vaccines pre covid against diseases such as typhoid, malaria and yellow fever.It was to answer this exact question.Go on, play dumb

[st7]

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

FB_IMG_1631810320614.jpg

I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

I posted here a list of countries that require vaccines pre covid against diseases such as typhoid, malaria and yellow fever.It was to answer this exact question.Go on, play dumb

i dont think he plays it

[adnj]

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

FB_IMG_1631810320614.jpg

I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

I posted here a list of countries that require vaccines pre covid against diseases such as typhoid, malaria and yellow fever.It was to answer this exact question.Go on, play dumb

i dont think he plays it

[hover11]

Didn't know you had it in you to think.....progress

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

FB_IMG_1631810320614.jpg

I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

I posted here a list of countries that require vaccines pre covid against diseases such as typhoid, malaria and yellow fever.It was to answer this exact question.Go on, play dumb

i dont think he plays it

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

Nothing wrong with conspiracy theories. Throughout history and even in this pandemic, many have proven to be true.

Such as?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

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I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

Jamaica requires yellow fever vaccines to travel there.
You need your vaccines and immunization card as proof to attend schools.
This is not a new concept.

[st7]

Didn't know you had it in you to think.....progress

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

FB_IMG_1631810320614.jpg

I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

I posted here a list of countries that require vaccines pre covid against diseases such as typhoid, malaria and yellow fever.It was to answer this exact question.Go on, play dumb

i dont think he plays it

you is 11 or wuh

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Those restrictions weren't on going only certain periods like I told you I visited when it wasn't a requirement simple....yellow fever and malaria surges passed after sometime

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

FB_IMG_1631810320614.jpg

I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

I posted here a list of countries that require vaccines pre covid against diseases such as typhoid, malaria and yellow fever.It was to answer this exact question.Go on, play dumb

And now Covid is currently a pandemic so it's "on going"

[st7]

I have never taken a vaccine to travel so whats your point and I been to nearly every Caribbean country , US , Canada, UK and Amsterdam

Duane do you find this is right , as an unvaxxed person I cannot travel soon even though I have the visa taking all required tests, you are limiting my freedom of movement , my right to work , my means to buy and sell, this isn't right.

^ so now it's back to the conspiracy theories

FB_IMG_1631810320614.jpg

I’ve taken vaccines for travel before. What’s your point ?

Jamaica requires yellow fever vaccines to travel there.
You need your vaccines and immunization card as proof to attend schools.
This is not a new concept.

hover11 must be a really fit guy the amount of times a day he does be shifting goalposts -- good for you buddy

[hover11]

Yup

[Mmoney607]

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What happens after covid to unhealthy people? What would save them from dying the comorbidities? Why do healthy people who do not fear the 2% have to make sacrifices for the unhealthy people and be forced to take a vaccine? Because you unhealthy and fraid it you want to force me to take.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?

[Mmoney607]

Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?

People without comorbidities

[hover11]

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3 ... lwHvkKB8dw


Covid-19: France suspends 3,000 unvaccinated health workers


Is this protecting the Healthcare system , if we were to do this here in trinidad can you imagine the increased deaths due to less doctors and nurses. People on here bash the regular folk who not willing to vaccinate but these are professionals who blatantly refuse to vaccinate for whatever reason I guess we will call them small minded and judge them based on their personal choice as well.

Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?

[adnj]

Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?

COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attack

September 9, 2021 — 

The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000). 

People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.

Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays 

The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.

A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400. 

https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... art-attack

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?

People without comorbidities

Comorbidity refers to the presence of more than one diagnosis occurring in an individual at the same time.
It could be asthma, allergies, age, pregnancy, sickle cell etc.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tions.html
None of those are lifestyle diseases.

Perfectly healthy people, even athletes can be hospitalized from their body's reaction to Covid-19.
Different people react differently to viruses.
Most times it's your immune system's over-reaction to the virus that proves deadly - it's called a cytokine storm
https://www.newscientist.com/definition/cytokine-storm/

There are negative effects of long-covid even on athletes
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/3/3/2 ... -asia-durr

Vaccination is shown to greatly reduce that risk as your body's immune system was already trained to handle the coronavirus.

[hover11]

I confused, are US hospitals supposed to be making a profit or saving lives? Last time i checked they are non profit and people are covered by insurance so whats the problem, an unvaxxed has the same rights to a hospital bed as anyone else in need

Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?

COVID-19 hospital stays cost 3 times more than a stay for heart attack

September 9, 2021 — 

The estimated average cost of a hospital stay for COVID-19 is more than $23,000. This includes both intensive care unit (ICU) and non-ICU admissions. New data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows that a COVID-19 hospital stay costs about 3 times more than for heart attack ($7,000) or pneumonia ($8,000), 4 times more than the cost of a stay for influenza (approximately $5,000) and almost as much as a kidney transplant ($27,000). 

People who have COVID-19 remain in the hospital about twice as long as the average pneumonia patient (15 days and 7 days, respectively), and a larger proportion of them are admitted to the ICU and ventilated.

Estimated costs for COVID-19 hospital stays 

The estimated total cost of COVID-19 hospital stays in Canada (excluding Quebec) was almost $1 billion in 2020–2021, tripling between November 2020 and March 2021.

A COVID-19–related hospitalization with ICU admission is estimated to cost over $50,000 — more than 3 times the cost of a stay without ICU admission ($15,000). By comparison, the average cost of an ICU admission for pneumonia is $22,000 and for heart attack is $8,400. 

https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-hospita ... art-attack

[st7]

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbbc.in%2F3tPofo3&h=AT058ZyTPBJ6baVY1NFWcMUDbzh4xO-cUe55h6dD6ztTbceRCQeNbK9drsmOxR8TYX6k24aEvF8NXcZEMmsx_PhK1yHIOFamSvnCR-Iv8FeRHmA2bkj4P3q5lwHvkKB8dw


Covid-19: France suspends 3,000 unvaccinated health workers


Is this protecting the Healthcare system , if we were to do this here in trinidad can you imagine the increased deaths due to less doctors and nurses. People on here bash the regular folk who not willing to vaccinate but these are professionals who blatantly refuse to vaccinate for whatever reason I guess we will call them small minded and judge them based on their personal choice as well.

Who protects the healthcare system and the drain of public money from the unvaccinated?

who does that? again with your baseless attacks to drive ur own antivax and antichoice narrative.