Flow
Flow
Flow
TriniTuner.com  |  Latest Event:  

Forums

PNM in Gov't (2020-2025)

this is how we do it.......

Moderator: 3ne2nr Mods

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Petrotrin refinery shut down

Postby zoom rader » March 12th, 2021, 10:11 am

sMASH wrote:while other first world countries giving out monthly stimulus checks... focus on the stimulus part, cause stimulus means they want to stimulate business keeping people running, trinidad push people on the breadline.
profit was not the only reason to shut it down, instead of keeping it open to go tru is streamlining process.
Main reason to shut down Petrotrin was the Ravi Bees employed there.

User avatar
sMASH
TunerGod
Posts: 25648
Joined: January 11th, 2005, 4:30 am

Re: Petrotrin refinery shut down

Postby sMASH » March 12th, 2021, 10:14 am

or av drilling files to dump. rowley frens must not get investigated. the same ones he called direct from foreign when the news broke of the 100m fake oil scam.

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Petrotrin refinery shut down

Postby Redman » March 12th, 2021, 10:49 am

sMASH wrote:while other first world countries giving out monthly stimulus checks... focus on the stimulus part, cause stimulus means they want to stimulate business keeping people running, trinidad push people on the breadline.
profit was not the only reason to shut it down, instead of keeping it open to go tru is streamlining process.


Yep and those firstworld countries Debt to GDP is north of 100% yet you complaining about Petrotrin debt created by the PNM-
more of your half way logic and memory.

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Petrotrin refinery shut down

Postby Redman » March 12th, 2021, 10:55 am

duplicate

User avatar
Habit7
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 12156
Joined: April 20th, 2009, 10:20 pm

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » March 12th, 2021, 1:09 pm

Curtis Williams is an opinion columnist masquerading as a journalist. But if you want a wider and more informed opinion, here you are:

Pricewaterhouse survey shows CEOs confident economy will bounce back from covid19
RYAN HAMILTON-DAVIS 18 HRS AGO

IT IS NO surprise that covid19 was one the number one concern of the 5,000 businesses that participated in the PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) 24th annual survey, launched virtually on Thursday. What was truly surprising, according to PwC chairman Bob Moritz, was the optimism which businesses had in the next three years.

Seventy-six per cent of businesses believed that in the next 12 months, the economy would improve. That is a massive jump from 22 per cent recorded in last year’s survey. A little under 40 per cent had the same optimism for the next three years.

The optimism comes in different forms, Moritz said.

“The first is optimism in the potential of the economy. It is at a record high – up 20 per cent from the previous year. The second thing is opportunity in their own organisations, particularly in their ability to grow revenue within the next 12 months. Likewise they see the same opportunity over the next three years.”

The report said CEOs in hospitality, leisure, transport and logistics were the least optimistic with the hospitality industries seeking to rebound to 2019 levels in the next three years. But tech industries, still riding high from the digital surge coming out of the pandemic had a better outlook on the next 12 months.

But overall businesses see a way forward. The PwC report said 36 per cent of CEOs said they were confident about their revenue growth prospects and almost half – 47 per cent – were very confident that the next three years would see growth.

PwC itself had its own good news. The report compiled feedback on the confidence level, dating back to 2008, to determine the direction and the strength of the global gross domestic product and found, based on this year’s responses, the global economy could grow by as much as five per cent.

Despite their confidence CEOs are fully aware of the threats still looming from covid19 and other factors. About 52 per cent said they were extremely concerned with the threat of pandemics and health crises. The last time PwC asked that question six years ago, only 9 nine per cent had that concern.

What is also notable is the increase in concern over cyber risks. That jumped from 33 per cent in 2020 to 47 per cent, no doubt climbing along with the increase in the use of technology.

“What is interesting is that rise is more consistent around the world when previously it was primarily out of Western Europe and the United States,” Moritz said.

Concern over climate change has risen slightly, indicating that while it is a concern it is still not a prominent one for CEOs.

Moritz said while concern over climate change did increase more than 60 per cent, CEOs did not include plans on the impact of climate change in their business modules.

“The challenges are many,” Moritz said. “There is a difference between those who are moving with speed and agility to react to the uncertainties that are out there, and yes, there are risks but also opportunities that the CEO’s are seeing.”

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/11/pricew ... m-covid19/

User avatar
MaxPower
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 16078
Joined: October 31st, 2010, 2:37 pm

Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » March 12th, 2021, 1:26 pm

zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile dem injun schools taking more scholarships

https://www.moe.gov.tt/news-release-2021-2-2-2-2-2/


Zoom,

Why the injun schools and not the afro schools?

Could it be the teachers? Facilities?

If we put the indo kids in the afro schools and the afro kids in the indo schools would we see any difference?

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » March 12th, 2021, 1:31 pm

Habit7 wrote:Curtis Williams is an opinion columnist masquerading as a journalist. But if you want a wider and more informed opinion, here you are:

Pricewaterhouse survey shows CEOs confident economy will bounce back from covid19
RYAN HAMILTON-DAVIS 18 HRS AGO

IT IS NO surprise that covid19 was one the number one concern of the 5,000 businesses that participated in the PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) 24th annual survey, launched virtually on Thursday. What was truly surprising, according to PwC chairman Bob Moritz, was the optimism which businesses had in the next three years.

Seventy-six per cent of businesses believed that in the next 12 months, the economy would improve. That is a massive jump from 22 per cent recorded in last year’s survey. A little under 40 per cent had the same optimism for the next three years.

The optimism comes in different forms, Moritz said.

“The first is optimism in the potential of the economy. It is at a record high – up 20 per cent from the previous year. The second thing is opportunity in their own organisations, particularly in their ability to grow revenue within the next 12 months. Likewise they see the same opportunity over the next three years.”

The report said CEOs in hospitality, leisure, transport and logistics were the least optimistic with the hospitality industries seeking to rebound to 2019 levels in the next three years. But tech industries, still riding high from the digital surge coming out of the pandemic had a better outlook on the next 12 months.

But overall businesses see a way forward. The PwC report said 36 per cent of CEOs said they were confident about their revenue growth prospects and almost half – 47 per cent – were very confident that the next three years would see growth.

PwC itself had its own good news. The report compiled feedback on the confidence level, dating back to 2008, to determine the direction and the strength of the global gross domestic product and found, based on this year’s responses, the global economy could grow by as much as five per cent.

Despite their confidence CEOs are fully aware of the threats still looming from covid19 and other factors. About 52 per cent said they were extremely concerned with the threat of pandemics and health crises. The last time PwC asked that question six years ago, only 9 nine per cent had that concern.

What is also notable is the increase in concern over cyber risks. That jumped from 33 per cent in 2020 to 47 per cent, no doubt climbing along with the increase in the use of technology.

“What is interesting is that rise is more consistent around the world when previously it was primarily out of Western Europe and the United States,” Moritz said.

Concern over climate change has risen slightly, indicating that while it is a concern it is still not a prominent one for CEOs.

Moritz said while concern over climate change did increase more than 60 per cent, CEOs did not include plans on the impact of climate change in their business modules.

“The challenges are many,” Moritz said. “There is a difference between those who are moving with speed and agility to react to the uncertainties that are out there, and yes, there are risks but also opportunities that the CEO’s are seeing.”

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/11/pricew ... m-covid19/
When Clarence Rambharath and other red government idiots was writing trash as a an opinionated columnist in the media houses I never hear you exposing these clowns.

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » March 12th, 2021, 1:37 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile dem injun schools taking more scholarships

https://www.moe.gov.tt/news-release-2021-2-2-2-2-2/


Zoom,

Why the injun schools and not the afro schools?

Could it be the teachers? Facilities?

If we put the indo kids in the afro schools and the afro kids in the indo schools would we see any difference?
I can write a long article on this and the red government tuners going to get offended for me telling the truth.

But....look at Tobago for the answer

User avatar
timelapse
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 8840
Joined: June 20th, 2012, 7:13 pm

Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » March 12th, 2021, 5:33 pm

Seeing this myself in my street.2 afro brothers going to an indo school are doing very well and are very well mannered young men.Those are the two I made the wooden katanas for for Christmas last year.
Then theres a indo going govt secondary.This little pest corrupting the other 2 .He has no ambition in life and running around with a toy 9mm that looking real.
Father of 2 afro boys put a rough up on the indo pest last week because of his behavior.

I went to a somewhat indo school, was a muslim board run school .I can tell you that my teachers really cared about us and wanted us to do well.Smash went there too, though at the time he was the reigning girls dem sugar.But most of us did well in exams and have decent lives, even the wottless ones.

Any experience from anyone that went govt school? Would love to know
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile dem injun schools taking more scholarships

https://www.moe.gov.tt/news-release-2021-2-2-2-2-2/


Zoom,

Why the injun schools and not the afro schools?

Could it be the teachers? Facilities?

If we put the indo kids in the afro schools and the afro kids in the indo schools would we see any difference?

User avatar
paid_influencer
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 9057
Joined: November 18th, 2017, 4:15 pm

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » March 12th, 2021, 6:45 pm

All the "good schools" will be destroyed in PNM's coming social experiment. I seeing on papers nice nice children getting president's model... in a couple years all these 'high performers' will get put into dysfunctional schools to get abused and harassed for being too smart.

that is what we want. because it too stressful to write an exam, apparently.

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » March 12th, 2021, 7:03 pm

paid_influencer wrote:All the "good schools" will be destroyed in PNM's coming social experiment. I seeing on papers nice nice children getting president's model... in a couple years all these 'high performers' will get put into dysfunctional schools to get abused and harassed for being too smart.

that is what we want. because it too stressful to write an exam, apparently.
Well this true

Hooligan red government kids will be mixed with those that want to lean.

Red government kids have psychological and mental problems of single parent and broken homes.

These kids turn out to be bullies and thus become golden Grove scholar winners .

Well manner kids are going to get bullied from red government kids.

I forsee a boom in private schools . It is unfair to mix hooligans with those that want to learn.

We all know that the red government is doing it best to curb the education of a certain sect in society. When you are educated it is very hard to control you and your thinking pattern.

User avatar
paid_influencer
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 9057
Joined: November 18th, 2017, 4:15 pm

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » March 12th, 2021, 7:23 pm

people think Zoom blowing smoke... but it real. It have one particular (denominational) Girl's Primary School in San Fernando where parents are tell me how much stress their children does go through in that school.

Not just one parent eh, is dozens of different parents over more than a decade telling me about that school. Every one of them is Indian and the school is overwhelmingly African. Academically, the school not bad but these parents end up paying money to go somewhere else.

Who want to play is all racial harmony in every school, miss me with that crap.

User avatar
The_Honourable
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10522
Joined: June 14th, 2009, 3:45 pm
Location: Together We Conspire, Together We Deceive

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » March 12th, 2021, 11:24 pm

If I have a son or daughter who is bright to attend a prestige school, but got zoned to some underperforming school, i will be doing a disservice sending my child to that environment and more than likely change the positive life path to negative. Denominationals do have their problems with classism, elitism and academic pressures... some worse than others but I can deal with that versus putting my child in a broken government system where the prospects of success are slim and trauma is high.

It's no secret that after independence, the number of scholarship winners of afro decent began to drop. There is the case that many afro students come from broken homes and live in areas where poverty and crime exists which affects their ability to learn. Teachers are not respected and loose motivation after a few years where they just teach to get a paycheck. That's not the fault of the the concordat and denominationals privilege to choose 20% which is always a scapegoat. Simply put... government schools are non-performers. Fix your house first.

User avatar
sMASH
TunerGod
Posts: 25648
Joined: January 11th, 2005, 4:30 am

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2021, 12:30 am

when the govt mash up the concordat, will people be willing to pay tuition to go to those same prestige schools?

Numb3r4
Shifting into 6th
Posts: 1989
Joined: May 22nd, 2013, 8:48 am
Location: Fyzabad

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Numb3r4 » March 13th, 2021, 12:32 am

Some might opt for home schooling and lessons per subject.
Similar to what is happening now with many kids.

I see the parents arranging with private tutors to deliver lessons and I hear that some are better than the school.

The tutors can probably deliver the syllabus faster which could allow the child the work from home and then go on to write privately.

Or who knows maybe younger folks who applied to the teaching service might just opt out and go private altogether thus creating more "schools" that follow the private tutor model and this might drive the price down.

User avatar
sMASH
TunerGod
Posts: 25648
Joined: January 11th, 2005, 4:30 am

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2021, 2:04 am

^ a new industry starting there. when i say new, i mean like, the size might be comparable to the prestige schools.

govt pull the trigger and parents who could afford it will pull out.

User avatar
timelapse
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 8840
Joined: June 20th, 2012, 7:13 pm

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » March 13th, 2021, 7:43 am

Already a decade into this.There's Reno and Upper level in Chaguanas, Daniel's in Sando ,if they still exist and a host of others.I not popping down government schools eh.For technical and industrial subjects, they produce some of the very best, especially Carapichaima , not sure about the east and west thing, and Princes Town.I know quite a few engineers that started off in these schools. My humble suggestion is to play at strengths.Focus the prestige schools on academics, and focus govt schools on technical stuff and sports. Be career oriented instead of just providing a generic product
sMASH wrote:^ a new industry starting there. when i say new, i mean like, the size might be comparable to the prestige schools.

govt pull the trigger and parents who could afford it will pull out.

User avatar
Dizzy28
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 18954
Joined: February 8th, 2010, 8:54 am
Location: People's Republic of Bananas

Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » March 13th, 2021, 9:00 am

People fight down sending their kids to prestige schools only to then send the kids extra lessons 7 days a week.

That not making any sense!!

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » March 13th, 2021, 9:25 am

Dizzy28 wrote:People fight down sending their kids to prestige schools only to then send the kids extra lessons 7 days a week.

That not making any sense!!
Lessons or Golden Grove.

Choose

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » March 13th, 2021, 9:46 am

timelapse wrote:Already a decade into this.There's Reno and Upper level in Chaguanas, Daniel's in Sando ,if they still exist and a host of others.I not popping down government schools eh.For technical and industrial subjects, they produce some of the very best, especially Carapichaima , not sure about the east and west thing, and Princes Town.I know quite a few engineers that started off in these schools. My humble suggestion is to play at strengths.Focus the prestige schools on academics, and focus govt schools on technical stuff and sports. Be career oriented instead of just providing a generic product
sMASH wrote:^ a new industry starting there. when i say new, i mean like, the size might be comparable to the prestige schools.

govt pull the trigger and parents who could afford it will pull out.


Privatize the managementand maintainence of the schools.
Keep ownership with the state.
Company bids for x school at y rate per student per term.

Management has to deliver contact hours and passes for a fixed price.

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » March 13th, 2021, 11:00 am

Redman wrote:
timelapse wrote:Already a decade into this.There's Reno and Upper level in Chaguanas, Daniel's in Sando ,if they still exist and a host of others.I not popping down government schools eh.For technical and industrial subjects, they produce some of the very best, especially Carapichaima , not sure about the east and west thing, and Princes Town.I know quite a few engineers that started off in these schools. My humble suggestion is to play at strengths.Focus the prestige schools on academics, and focus govt schools on technical stuff and sports. Be career oriented instead of just providing a generic product
sMASH wrote:^ a new industry starting there. when i say new, i mean like, the size might be comparable to the prestige schools.

govt pull the trigger and parents who could afford it will pull out.


Privatize the managementand maintainence of the schools.
Keep ownership with the state.
Company bids for x school at y rate per student per term.

Management has to deliver contact hours and passes for a fixed price.
Bullchit

bluefete
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 14687
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 10:56 pm
Location: POS

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » March 13th, 2021, 11:13 am

That is a recipe for corruption, if there ever was one. You know anything to be ever done for a fixed price in T&T. They start off with one sum and end up with double and triple the price.

It would also put education beyond the reach of many.

Redman wrote:Privatize the management and maintainance of the schools.
Keep ownership with the state. Company bids for x school at y rate per student per term.

Management has to deliver contact hours and passes for a fixed price.

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » March 13th, 2021, 11:20 am

bluefete wrote:That is a recipe for corruption, if there ever was one. You know anything to be ever done for a fixed price in T&T. They start off with one sum and end up with double and triple the price.

It would also put education beyond the reach of many.

Redman wrote:Privatize the management and maintainance of the schools.
Keep ownership with the state. Company bids for x school at y rate per student per term.

Management has to deliver contact hours and passes for a fixed price.
That's why I said Bullchit

Never let the red government run anything not even a parlour

User avatar
sMASH
TunerGod
Posts: 25648
Joined: January 11th, 2005, 4:30 am

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2021, 11:24 am

Redman wrote:
timelapse wrote:Already a decade into this.There's Reno and Upper level in Chaguanas, Daniel's in Sando ,if they still exist and a host of others.I not popping down government schools eh.For technical and industrial subjects, they produce some of the very best, especially Carapichaima , not sure about the east and west thing, and Princes Town.I know quite a few engineers that started off in these schools. My humble suggestion is to play at strengths.Focus the prestige schools on academics, and focus govt schools on technical stuff and sports. Be career oriented instead of just providing a generic product
sMASH wrote:^ a new industry starting there. when i say new, i mean like, the size might be comparable to the prestige schools.

govt pull the trigger and parents who could afford it will pull out.


Privatize the managementand maintainence of the schools.
Keep ownership with the state.
Company bids for x school at y rate per student per term.

Management has to deliver contact hours and passes for a fixed price.

niquan? give niquan, ansa and amalgamated the contracts.

User avatar
timelapse
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 8840
Joined: June 20th, 2012, 7:13 pm

Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » March 13th, 2021, 12:00 pm

My suggestion was leaving ownership where it is, that was another tuner's 2¢. Management of these places is not my concern.
What I'm suggesting is specialising.
Eg. If X school producing good IT students, focus your curriculum around that.If you producing better technical students, focus around that.

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » March 13th, 2021, 12:05 pm

A...it reduces govt involvement to oversight..so
B it's easy to reverse auction the selection process and publish the results ..keeping cost down and bring transparency to the process.

It actually is close to revenue neutral..based on 2018\19 budget for what will be a big jump in the quality of education delivered.

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 30522
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » March 13th, 2021, 5:14 pm

Redman wrote:A...it reduces govt involvement to oversight..so
B it's easy to reverse auction the selection process and publish the results ..keeping cost down and bring transparency to the process.

It actually is close to revenue neutral..based on 2018\19 budget for what will be a big jump in the quality of education delivered.
Nothing is transparent under the red government.

They play with words like Petrotrin is still in operation but some 3500 workers lost their jobs

Numb3r4
Shifting into 6th
Posts: 1989
Joined: May 22nd, 2013, 8:48 am
Location: Fyzabad

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Numb3r4 » March 13th, 2021, 9:33 pm

sMASH wrote:^ a new industry starting there. when i say new, i mean like, the size might be comparable to the prestige schools.

govt pull the trigger and parents who could afford it will pull out.


Not starting but actually in existence, at the start of this entire COVID debacle I was more aware of "lessons" teachers going online and even before these "lessons" teacher were using email to communicate with parents.

The same applied to the distribution of handouts. They were accustomed to doing it before. A few of those teachers would give out optional worksheets and such even before COVID so now that COVID is here they had that expertise of distributing work and using email and such.

Even parent to teacher contact, the direct financial nature of the business meant that parents who paid would also meet the teachers more often, and the fact that parents would go to pick-up the students furthered the closeness between the teacher and parent and this helps the student.

While it sounds great remember some may not be able to afford the price.

User avatar
sMASH
TunerGod
Posts: 25648
Joined: January 11th, 2005, 4:30 am

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2021, 11:33 pm

well, that is the situation with the scholarships being transferred down to the normal schooling. if u cant afford it, u do without... which in this case is public school.
should u solve the problem for the future generations and the budget of the govt? maybe, maybe no.

in highlighting the concordat, the govt has to be considering if the achievements that the country was able to benefit from having it, is it worth the dollars and cents they trying to save now.

User avatar
De Dragon
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 17912
Joined: January 27th, 2004, 3:49 am
Location: Enjoying my little miracles............

Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » March 14th, 2021, 9:30 am

"For a man who is not shy about boasting constantly, almost with every sentence he utters, about the great job he has done, led by Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, it is now almost painful to see clearly that the rollout is at best stuttering if not stalled".
Habit7 only has a problem with Curtis Williams when he writes about the truth. Curtis Williams is the premier economic and energy journalist who took the mantle from the late David Renwick. The exceedingly embarrassing vaccine debacle has shown up T&T AGAIN, and to attack the messenger while ignoring the stark reality that we were misled, is the hallmark off a rabid LFD RFD PNM apologist.

Advertisement

Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 64 guests