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The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH)

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Who will you be voting for on Aug 10th

Poll ended at August 9th, 2020, 11:04 pm

PNM
28
22%
UNC
75
59%
COP
2
2%
PEP
17
13%
NNV
0
No votes
MSJ
0
No votes
NDP
0
No votes
PDP
0
No votes
Independent
5
4%
 
Total votes: 127

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Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 2:54 pm

mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
bluefete wrote:Is that a true UNC proposal - To take CASH from UTC and NIB to do projects?

All my money coming out of UTC if UNC wins (ditto if PNM decides to do the same).

They almost bankrupted NGC with that foolishness between 2010 - 2015.

Where Zoom to say we are wrong and lying on the UNC.
I'm literally trying to find a logical reason as to why using NIBs cash fund is a reason to celebrate.

Is Kamla raising retirement to at least 65? How are they getting contributions to facilitate this?? The taxpayer and business community hasn't pay more NIS??

Tdad is one of the few countries where retirement is still 60. Barbados is at 68 I think.

Since Mannings podium promise of raising pension to $3000, NIB has been paying the subsidy for those ppl who contributions should have given them about $300 a month..

Employment at an all time low now so no employment no NIS payments and Kamla wants to take it to put it in an Infrastructure Fund?!! Lmaoo and they clap.

This could be the demise of NIS. . Short term And long term.. no sickness, disablement, funeral grant, maternity benefits.. long term, all the sacrifice u work in life and yuh pension at risk... and we know how them old injun does get on bad for dey pension.

Is Kamla trying political suicide or her supporters so illiterate they doh even understand what this means???

This is literally what you worked for in life.

And they clap. 50,000 new jobs and lewwe raid NIB and UNC! !! Barartaria sarria stand up!!!!!


1% have been eyeing NIB for the longest while , they just got a bumper from our HSF and citizens got very little in Covid apart form Non existant Tobago Hotels .

Citizens own NIB and NGC and they need to see benifits rather that 1% and the mob taking our money


Lol Fck outta here with that blogger response. Your benefits are what was entitled your after paying NIS for all those years which I 100% u benefit from ... how many years u paid NIS for zoom?

When Kamla take the money..how she putting it back?

U support this zoom? It's ok to disagree with Queen Kamla sometimes.. I won't judge u. Pretend is not yuh dUNCe minions u addressing here.


I have 852 Contributions which is over the 750 contributions need to get NIB pension . I have being working at age 16.

If you have the info where Kams said shes going to use NIB fund, then post and lets see whats involved
Redman posted some links there for your perusal.

Congrats on beating out work early in life. Now imagine you you can't get it lol

This is the most anti indo policy ever. Injun doh play with dey pension. How kams go do dat?

This worse than closing down Caroni.

*applause*
Non PNM ppl don't depend on NIB pensions only , most have private pensions,, bussiness & tennants.

Only sufferers depend on NIB

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby Dizzy28 » July 27th, 2020, 3:00 pm

Redman wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:exactly how can money be taken from the utc?
afaik utc money is their depositors


If there is a way to loot a SOE Moneylal and them will find a way.



UTC a state enterprise?

UTC was created by an act of parliament...in 83....

I don’t think it is.a SOE...I don’t think there is a legal way for GORTT to take funds....only borrow via a bond issue.

But KPB said no borrowing.


You are right, neither UTC or NIB are state owned enterprises but they are creatures of the state.

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Postby eliteauto » July 27th, 2020, 3:06 pm

zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
bluefete wrote:Is that a true UNC proposal - To take CASH from UTC and NIB to do projects?

All my money coming out of UTC if UNC wins (ditto if PNM decides to do the same).

They almost bankrupted NGC with that foolishness between 2010 - 2015.

Where Zoom to say we are wrong and lying on the UNC.
I'm literally trying to find a logical reason as to why using NIBs cash fund is a reason to celebrate.

Is Kamla raising retirement to at least 65? How are they getting contributions to facilitate this?? The taxpayer and business community hasn't pay more NIS??

Tdad is one of the few countries where retirement is still 60. Barbados is at 68 I think.

Since Mannings podium promise of raising pension to $3000, NIB has been paying the subsidy for those ppl who contributions should have given them about $300 a month..

Employment at an all time low now so no employment no NIS payments and Kamla wants to take it to put it in an Infrastructure Fund?!! Lmaoo and they clap.

This could be the demise of NIS. . Short term And long term.. no sickness, disablement, funeral grant, maternity benefits.. long term, all the sacrifice u work in life and yuh pension at risk... and we know how them old injun does get on bad for dey pension.

Is Kamla trying political suicide or her supporters so illiterate they doh even understand what this means???

This is literally what you worked for in life.

And they clap. 50,000 new jobs and lewwe raid NIB and UNC! !! Barartaria sarria stand up!!!!!


1% have been eyeing NIB for the longest while , they just got a bumper from our HSF and citizens got very little in Covid apart form Non existant Tobago Hotels .

Citizens own NIB and NGC and they need to see benifits rather that 1% and the mob taking our money


Lol Fck outta here with that blogger response. Your benefits are what was entitled your after paying NIS for all those years which I 100% u benefit from ... how many years u paid NIS for zoom?

When Kamla take the money..how she putting it back?

U support this zoom? It's ok to disagree with Queen Kamla sometimes.. I won't judge u. Pretend is not yuh dUNCe minions u addressing here.


I have 852 Contributions which is over the 750 contributions need to get NIB pension . I have being working at age 16.

If you have the info where Kams said shes going to use NIB fund, then post and lets see whats involved
Redman posted some links there for your perusal.

Congrats on beating out work early in life. Now imagine you you can't get it lol

This is the most anti indo policy ever. Injun doh play with dey pension. How kams go do dat?

This worse than closing down Caroni.

*applause*
Non PNM ppl don't depend on NIB pensions only , most have private pensions,, bussiness & tennants.

Only sufferers depend on NIB


wooogard!! Big boy ting, meem bong for dat :lol: :lol:

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Postby Redman » July 27th, 2020, 5:07 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Redman wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:exactly how can money be taken from the utc?
afaik utc money is their depositors


If there is a way to loot a SOE Moneylal and them will find a way.



UTC a state enterprise?

UTC was created by an act of parliament...in 83....

I don’t think it is.a SOE...I don’t think there is a legal way for GORTT to take funds....only borrow via a bond issue.

But KPB said no borrowing.


You are right, neither UTC or NIB are state owned enterprises but they are creatures of the state.


Creatures of the state, but ...I spoke to some one who was there in 1981....he is pretty sure that there is no legal way for the gortt to unilaterally pull funds, and is sure govt doesn’t own UTC.
So that negates Gortt as shareholders....direct,indirect or as corporation sole.

The entity was created by an act...but is a LLC.

I have not found UTC on any list of state enterprises on the MoF website or anywhere.

I can’t say who owns UTC.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 27th, 2020, 6:22 pm

Given our predicament (covid wise) and a date has already been set. Can the election be postponed? If so, how? What has to be done? Soe

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Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 6:37 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Given our predicament (covid wise) and a date has already been set. Can the election be postponed? If so, how? What has to be done? Soe
Why postponed?

Non PNM parties have been askng for elections

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Postby Numb3r4 » July 27th, 2020, 6:49 pm

I think what you really need it some kind of majority agreement with regards to how well we can shut down and shelter or hunker down.

I doubt though because as we've learned a lot of folks are living on a shoestring and just don't have the ability to sustain themselves long term. So another lock down might be great for the arresting of the spread but it will not be easy for many folks economically.

You are now going forward asking persons to chose between life and livelihood but given what we saw from the first lock down BOTH those 2 things are NOT separate. Any lock down is asking folks to give up their livelihood to spare life however without a livelihood your life becomes threatened.

The only way to try to make the lock down palatable is to probably have some kind of "relief check" or "grant", but that would depend of the available funds and the governments' willingness. It would also have to be quick and timely, if not you may find persons continuing to operate in a manner that defies the lock down. This would again be a problem as spread may be possible and worst now as it is "underground" making it difficult to track.

Ideally what you want is a well educated population, a well funded health care system with a robust (not excessive) state funded safety net.

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Postby paid_influencer » July 27th, 2020, 7:03 pm

back to the talk about UTC and NIB getting raid out - from CNC3.

Persad-Bissessar said that the UNC government would not be borrowing money or through taxes but would instead utilise the cash balances of State-controlled institution investors like the National Insurance Board and the Unit Trust Corporation.

“We could use their cash balances to mobilise an initial $4 billion in capital for the National Infrastructure Fund,” she said.

In addition to that, Persad-Bissessar said the UNC government will also tap private insurance companies and pension funds to become shareholders.

“So we would have Government funding and private investment,” she said.

Persad-Bissessar said that to manage the fund, they would elect a board instead of putting a government minister at the helm as is the norm.


The National Infrastructure Fund would be an investment entity (not controlled by the government), where UTC and NIB are the initial shareholders, along with private companies such as insurance and pension funds. A quick google shows other countries have similar entities, like the NIIF in India.

The National Infrastructure Investment Fund (NIIF) is a fund manager that invests in infrastructure and related sectors in India. An institution anchored by the Government of India, NIIF is a collaborative investment platform for international and Indian investors with a mandate to invest equity capital in domestic infrastructure. NIIF benefits from its association with the Government yet is independent in its investment decisions being majority-owned by institutional investors and managed professionally by a team with experience in investments and infrastructure. NIIF aims to make commercial investments in the sector at scale. NIIF manages over US$4.5 billion of capital commitments across three funds, each with its distinct investment strategy. The funds have investment mandates to invest in infrastructure assets and related businesses that are likely to benefit from the long-term growth trajectory of the Indian economy.

The Government of India has committed US$3 billion as 49% across all NIIF funds. For the balance 51%, NIIF solicits investments from large global institutional investors such as ADIA, Temasek, Ontario Teachers and Australian Super, multi-laterals such as AIIB and Indian domestic financial institutions such as HDFC, Kotak Mahindra Bank, Axis Bank and ICICI Bank.


https://www.ifswf.org/members/national- ... tment-fund

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Postby pugboy » July 27th, 2020, 7:10 pm

So what exactly is a “cash balance” ?

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Postby elec2020 » July 27th, 2020, 7:25 pm

^ they may be referencing the balance on the cash flow statement?

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Postby j.o.e » July 27th, 2020, 7:54 pm

Y’all trying to figure out KPB plans .... KPB just says whatever comes to mind. She may have a background in law but she isn’t too bright.

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Postby Gladiator » July 27th, 2020, 8:25 pm

Redman wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:exactly how can money be taken from the utc?
afaik utc money is their depositors


If there is a way to loot a SOE Moneylal and them will find a way.



UTC a state enterprise?

UTC was created by an act of parliament...in 83....

I don’t think it is.a SOE...I don’t think there is a legal way for GORTT to take funds....only borrow via a bond issue.

But KPB said no borrowing.


IIRC didn't Patrick Manning also want to do this coming up to the end of his tenure.... use the UTC funds as a source of Govt funding?

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Postby maj. tom » July 27th, 2020, 8:36 pm

if that announcement is ever made, won't the majority of customers then just make a rush to withdraw and collapse the institution?

Bad idea for any government.

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Postby De Dragon » July 27th, 2020, 9:04 pm

The OJT elec2020 gets into hot water talking caca about racism based voting choices, but has sufficient clout that results in his handlers Red Plastic Bag, elitecorolla, j.o.e, Dizzy and mero running in personally to defend him :lol: Full court press business!!
Defending him by talking nonsense about raiding which fund is better, HSF vs NIB, as if the HSF funds can be replaced in the current energy crisis economy, the incompetent PNM being the only ones to access that fund EVER.
Defending him by justifying loans that will burden us for years based on the most asinine statement ever made by a leader in history "to maintain the lifestyle we are accustomed to". The Hon JUHN Scarfy.
Defending him by playing(?) dotish and not saying that the economy was in freefall long before Covid-19 thanks to Impsy and JUHN Scarfy playing economists.
Like the saying goes, the trees mind not getting cut, as long as the axe handle and their colour are the same. Sickening tribal dotishness on full display under the guise of erudite "discussion," the leader of the sickening squad being Red Plastic Bag who still defending Sandals(!) to this day :shock:
Carry on children. :roll:

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Postby paid_influencer » July 27th, 2020, 9:09 pm

maj. tom wrote:if that announcement is ever made, won't the majority of customers then just make a rush to withdraw and collapse the institution?

Bad idea for any government.


NIS doesn't really have customers. You have to pay in by law. You can't withdraw shiet.

UTC does have "customers", but your account is denominated in shareholder units and not any currency value. You could withdraw, but with a steep hair cut as your unit value drops. The investment value would be relatively unaffected long term - as you still own whatever assets they had before + whatever assets get put into the National Infrastructure Fund.

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Postby elec2020 » July 27th, 2020, 9:46 pm

De Dragon wrote:The OJT elec2020 gets into hot water talking caca about racism based voting choices, but has sufficient clout that results in his handlers Red Plastic Bag, elitecorolla, j.o.e, Dizzy and mero running in personally to defend him :lol: Full court press business!!
Defending him by talking nonsense about raiding which fund is better, HSF vs NIB, as if the HSF funds can be replaced in the current energy crisis economy, the incompetent PNM being the only ones to access that fund EVER.
Defending him by justifying loans that will burden us for years based on the most asinine statement ever made by a leader in history "to maintain the lifestyle we are accustomed to". The Hon JUHN Scarfy.
Defending him by playing(?) dotish and not saying that the economy was in freefall long before Covid-19 thanks to Impsy and JUHN Scarfy playing economists.
Like the saying goes, the trees mind not getting cut, as long as the axe handle and their colour are the same. Sickening tribal dotishness on full display under the guise of erudite "discussion," the leader of the sickening squad being Red Plastic Bag who still defending Sandals(!) to this day :shock:
Carry on children. :roll:


Ok

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Postby The_Honourable » July 27th, 2020, 10:09 pm

Prime Minister Dr. Keith Rowley says yes to a debate but only if the leader of the Opposition will attend.

Dr. Rowley will only consider it but says there was a Debates Commission and Mrs. Persad Bissessar pulled out.

The Prime Minister says this led to the collapse of the commission.

Dr. Rowley further stated that Mrs. Persad Bissessar had already dismissed the notion by taking the escape position by saying there is already a debate taking place because that is what the campaign is.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/i955fm/photos/ ... 673465643/

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » July 27th, 2020, 10:15 pm

There will never be a live debate between Kamla and Rowley.

Tanty Kams will be too Drunk to answer any question and Uncle Rowley will threaten to shove an umbrella up the moderator bottom for asking hard questions.

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Postby De Dragon » July 27th, 2020, 10:32 pm

elec2020 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:The OJT elec2020 gets into hot water talking caca about racism based voting choices, but has sufficient clout that results in his handlers Red Plastic Bag, elitecorolla, j.o.e, Dizzy and mero running in personally to defend him :lol: Full court press business!!
Defending him by talking nonsense about raiding which fund is better, HSF vs NIB, as if the HSF funds can be replaced in the current energy crisis economy, the incompetent PNM being the only ones to access that fund EVER.
Defending him by justifying loans that will burden us for years based on the most asinine statement ever made by a leader in history "to maintain the lifestyle we are accustomed to". The Hon JUHN Scarfy.
Defending him by playing(?) dotish and not saying that the economy was in freefall long before Covid-19 thanks to Impsy and JUHN Scarfy playing economists.
Like the saying goes, the trees mind not getting cut, as long as the axe handle and their colour are the same. Sickening tribal dotishness on full display under the guise of erudite "discussion," the leader of the sickening squad being Red Plastic Bag who still defending Sandals(!) to this day :shock:
Carry on children. :roll:


Ok

Glad to see they have already taught you the passive aggressive fallback position when opposed :lol:

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Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 10:39 pm

Gladiator wrote:
Redman wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:exactly how can money be taken from the utc?
afaik utc money is their depositors


If there is a way to loot a SOE Moneylal and them will find a way.



UTC a state enterprise?

UTC was created by an act of parliament...in 83....

I don’t think it is.a SOE...I don’t think there is a legal way for GORTT to take funds....only borrow via a bond issue.

But KPB said no borrowing.


IIRC didn't Patrick Manning also want to do this coming up to the end of his tenure.... use the UTC funds as a source of Govt funding?
Yes he did but few will remember that it and choose not to.
He had runs in with the guy in change of UTC

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Postby The_Honourable » July 27th, 2020, 10:40 pm

De Dragon wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:The OJT elec2020 gets into hot water talking caca about racism based voting choices, but has sufficient clout that results in his handlers Red Plastic Bag, elitecorolla, j.o.e, Dizzy and mero running in personally to defend him :lol: Full court press business!!
Defending him by talking nonsense about raiding which fund is better, HSF vs NIB, as if the HSF funds can be replaced in the current energy crisis economy, the incompetent PNM being the only ones to access that fund EVER.
Defending him by justifying loans that will burden us for years based on the most asinine statement ever made by a leader in history "to maintain the lifestyle we are accustomed to". The Hon JUHN Scarfy.
Defending him by playing(?) dotish and not saying that the economy was in freefall long before Covid-19 thanks to Impsy and JUHN Scarfy playing economists.
Like the saying goes, the trees mind not getting cut, as long as the axe handle and their colour are the same. Sickening tribal dotishness on full display under the guise of erudite "discussion," the leader of the sickening squad being Red Plastic Bag who still defending Sandals(!) to this day :shock:
Carry on children. :roll:


Ok

Glad to see they have already taught you the passive aggressive fallback position when opposed :lol:


Noted :lol:

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Postby mero » July 27th, 2020, 10:43 pm

zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
bluefete wrote:Is that a true UNC proposal - To take CASH from UTC and NIB to do projects?

All my money coming out of UTC if UNC wins (ditto if PNM decides to do the same).

They almost bankrupted NGC with that foolishness between 2010 - 2015.

Where Zoom to say we are wrong and lying on the UNC.
I'm literally trying to find a logical reason as to why using NIBs cash fund is a reason to celebrate.

Is Kamla raising retirement to at least 65? How are they getting contributions to facilitate this?? The taxpayer and business community hasn't pay more NIS??

Tdad is one of the few countries where retirement is still 60. Barbados is at 68 I think.

Since Mannings podium promise of raising pension to $3000, NIB has been paying the subsidy for those ppl who contributions should have given them about $300 a month..

Employment at an all time low now so no employment no NIS payments and Kamla wants to take it to put it in an Infrastructure Fund?!! Lmaoo and they clap.

This could be the demise of NIS. . Short term And long term.. no sickness, disablement, funeral grant, maternity benefits.. long term, all the sacrifice u work in life and yuh pension at risk... and we know how them old injun does get on bad for dey pension.

Is Kamla trying political suicide or her supporters so illiterate they doh even understand what this means???

This is literally what you worked for in life.

And they clap. 50,000 new jobs and lewwe raid NIB and UNC! !! Barartaria sarria stand up!!!!!


1% have been eyeing NIB for the longest while , they just got a bumper from our HSF and citizens got very little in Covid apart form Non existant Tobago Hotels .

Citizens own NIB and NGC and they need to see benifits rather that 1% and the mob taking our money


Lol Fck outta here with that blogger response. Your benefits are what was entitled your after paying NIS for all those years which I 100% u benefit from ... how many years u paid NIS for zoom?

When Kamla take the money..how she putting it back?

U support this zoom? It's ok to disagree with Queen Kamla sometimes.. I won't judge u. Pretend is not yuh dUNCe minions u addressing here.


I have 852 Contributions which is over the 750 contributions need to get NIB pension . I have being working at age 16.

If you have the info where Kams said shes going to use NIB fund, then post and lets see whats involved
Redman posted some links there for your perusal.

Congrats on beating out work early in life. Now imagine you you can't get it lol

This is the most anti indo policy ever. Injun doh play with dey pension. How kams go do dat?

This worse than closing down Caroni.

*applause*
Non PNM ppl don't depend on NIB pensions only , most have private pensions,, bussiness & tennants.

Only sufferers depend on NIB
Zoom raider minions, if you utilize NIS and don't have tenants , zoom has established his superiority over u and labelled you all PNMs.

Is this your king?

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Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 10:46 pm

De Dragon wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:The OJT elec2020 gets into hot water talking caca about racism based voting choices, but has sufficient clout that results in his handlers Red Plastic Bag, elitecorolla, j.o.e, Dizzy and mero running in personally to defend him Full court press business!!
Defending him by talking nonsense about raiding which fund is better, HSF vs NIB, as if the HSF funds can be replaced in the current energy crisis economy, the incompetent PNM being the only ones to access that fund EVER.
Defending him by justifying loans that will burden us for years based on the most asinine statement ever made by a leader in history "to maintain the lifestyle we are accustomed to". The Hon JUHN Scarfy.
Defending him by playing(?) dotish and not saying that the economy was in freefall long before Covid-19 thanks to Impsy and JUHN Scarfy playing economists.
Like the saying goes, the trees mind not getting cut, as long as the axe handle and their colour are the same. Sickening tribal dotishness on full display under the guise of erudite "discussion," the leader of the sickening squad being Red Plastic Bag who still defending Sandals(!) to this day :shock:
Carry on children. :roll:


Ok

Glad to see they have already taught you the passive aggressive fallback position when opposed
He came in and tried to pretend to be neutral but he got caught out as a PNM idiot and blogger.
He can't back up his claims and can only respond with "ok"

He's a total dumb arse

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby De Dragon » July 27th, 2020, 10:51 pm

zoom rader wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:The OJT elec2020 gets into hot water talking caca about racism based voting choices, but has sufficient clout that results in his handlers Red Plastic Bag, elitecorolla, j.o.e, Dizzy and mero running in personally to defend him Full court press business!!
Defending him by talking nonsense about raiding which fund is better, HSF vs NIB, as if the HSF funds can be replaced in the current energy crisis economy, the incompetent PNM being the only ones to access that fund EVER.
Defending him by justifying loans that will burden us for years based on the most asinine statement ever made by a leader in history "to maintain the lifestyle we are accustomed to". The Hon JUHN Scarfy.
Defending him by playing(?) dotish and not saying that the economy was in freefall long before Covid-19 thanks to Impsy and JUHN Scarfy playing economists.
Like the saying goes, the trees mind not getting cut, as long as the axe handle and their colour are the same. Sickening tribal dotishness on full display under the guise of erudite "discussion," the leader of the sickening squad being Red Plastic Bag who still defending Sandals(!) to this day :shock:
Carry on children. :roll:


Ok

Glad to see they have already taught you the passive aggressive fallback position when opposed
He came in and tried to pretend to be neutral but he got caught out as a PNM idiot and blogger.
He can't back up his claims and can only respond with "ok"

He's a total dumb arse

Soon he will graduate to "expected" and "educate yourself" and other known jackarseries from PNM dumb dumbs like Red Plastic bag and elitecorolla who try to appear superior, but are of inferior intellect and wit

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 10:56 pm

mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
bluefete wrote:Is that a true UNC proposal - To take CASH from UTC and NIB to do projects?

All my money coming out of UTC if UNC wins (ditto if PNM decides to do the same).

They almost bankrupted NGC with that foolishness between 2010 - 2015.

Where Zoom to say we are wrong and lying on the UNC.
I'm literally trying to find a logical reason as to why using NIBs cash fund is a reason to celebrate.

Is Kamla raising retirement to at least 65? How are they getting contributions to facilitate this?? The taxpayer and business community hasn't pay more NIS??

Tdad is one of the few countries where retirement is still 60. Barbados is at 68 I think.

Since Mannings podium promise of raising pension to $3000, NIB has been paying the subsidy for those ppl who contributions should have given them about $300 a month..

Employment at an all time low now so no employment no NIS payments and Kamla wants to take it to put it in an Infrastructure Fund?!! Lmaoo and they clap.

This could be the demise of NIS. . Short term And long term.. no sickness, disablement, funeral grant, maternity benefits.. long term, all the sacrifice u work in life and yuh pension at risk... and we know how them old injun does get on bad for dey pension.

Is Kamla trying political suicide or her supporters so illiterate they doh even understand what this means???

This is literally what you worked for in life.

And they clap. 50,000 new jobs and lewwe raid NIB and UNC! !! Barartaria sarria stand up!!!!!


1% have been eyeing NIB for the longest while , they just got a bumper from our HSF and citizens got very little in Covid apart form Non existant Tobago Hotels .

Citizens own NIB and NGC and they need to see benifits rather that 1% and the mob taking our money


Lol Fck outta here with that blogger response. Your benefits are what was entitled your after paying NIS for all those years which I 100% u benefit from ... how many years u paid NIS for zoom?

When Kamla take the money..how she putting it back?

U support this zoom? It's ok to disagree with Queen Kamla sometimes.. I won't judge u. Pretend is not yuh dUNCe minions u addressing here.


I have 852 Contributions which is over the 750 contributions need to get NIB pension . I have being working at age 16.

If you have the info where Kams said shes going to use NIB fund, then post and lets see whats involved
Redman posted some links there for your perusal.

Congrats on beating out work early in life. Now imagine you you can't get it lol

This is the most anti indo policy ever. Injun doh play with dey pension. How kams go do dat?

This worse than closing down Caroni.

*applause*
Non PNM ppl don't depend on NIB pensions only , most have private pensions,, bussiness & tennants.

Only sufferers depend on NIB
Zoom raider minions, if you utilize NIS and don't have tenants , zoom has established his superiority over u and labelled you all PNMs.

Is this your king?
PNM does not teach future financial planning and investing.

If you and folk don't plan your financial future and hope to live on NIS only then you all are very stupid people.

To bad if you all keep buying Jordans and useless cars rather than invest in real estate, a business or a simple private pension.

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby matr1x » July 27th, 2020, 11:02 pm

Pnm are liars to the core

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » July 27th, 2020, 11:05 pm

matr1x wrote:Pnm are liars to the core


I actually agree, but Isn't that true for most politicians tho?

Politicians and Lawyers require a psychopath mindset, a remarkable ability to lie, a total narcissist, a total and complete Demagogue according to Dr Richard Dawkins the famous evolutionary biologist and a person immensely qualified.

The most successful politicians were Hitler and Stalin who were also the biggest mass murderers ever lived.

I highly suggest you read Mein Kampf, it gives a deep insight into politics and how politicians actually think. The one thing about Hitler is he was very open about his true intentions, who he really was in his book and how he rose to power and became the most feared dictator ever lived. He is by far the embodiment of a politician.

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby eliteauto » July 27th, 2020, 11:12 pm

zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:I'm literally trying to find a logical reason as to why using NIBs cash fund is a reason to celebrate.

Is Kamla raising retirement to at least 65? How are they getting contributions to facilitate this?? The taxpayer and business community hasn't pay more NIS??

Tdad is one of the few countries where retirement is still 60. Barbados is at 68 I think.

Since Mannings podium promise of raising pension to $3000, NIB has been paying the subsidy for those ppl who contributions should have given them about $300 a month..

Employment at an all time low now so no employment no NIS payments and Kamla wants to take it to put it in an Infrastructure Fund?!! Lmaoo and they clap.

This could be the demise of NIS. . Short term And long term.. no sickness, disablement, funeral grant, maternity benefits.. long term, all the sacrifice u work in life and yuh pension at risk... and we know how them old injun does get on bad for dey pension.

Is Kamla trying political suicide or her supporters so illiterate they doh even understand what this means???

This is literally what you worked for in life.

And they clap. 50,000 new jobs and lewwe raid NIB and UNC! !! Barartaria sarria stand up!!!!!


1% have been eyeing NIB for the longest while , they just got a bumper from our HSF and citizens got very little in Covid apart form Non existant Tobago Hotels .

Citizens own NIB and NGC and they need to see benifits rather that 1% and the mob taking our money


Lol Fck outta here with that blogger response. Your benefits are what was entitled your after paying NIS for all those years which I 100% u benefit from ... how many years u paid NIS for zoom?

When Kamla take the money..how she putting it back?

U support this zoom? It's ok to disagree with Queen Kamla sometimes.. I won't judge u. Pretend is not yuh dUNCe minions u addressing here.


I have 852 Contributions which is over the 750 contributions need to get NIB pension . I have being working at age 16.

If you have the info where Kams said shes going to use NIB fund, then post and lets see whats involved
Redman posted some links there for your perusal.

Congrats on beating out work early in life. Now imagine you you can't get it lol

This is the most anti indo policy ever. Injun doh play with dey pension. How kams go do dat?

This worse than closing down Caroni.

*applause*
Non PNM ppl don't depend on NIB pensions only , most have private pensions,, bussiness & tennants.

Only sufferers depend on NIB
Zoom raider minions, if you utilize NIS and don't have tenants , zoom has established his superiority over u and labelled you all PNMs.

Is this your king?
PNM does not teach future financial planning and investing.

If you and folk don't plan your financial future and hope to live on NIS only then you all are very stupid people.

To bad if you all keep buying Jordans and useless cars rather than invest in real estate, a business or a simple private pension.

Yes I, good post there

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby Redman » July 28th, 2020, 7:05 am

zoom rader wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
Redman wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:exactly how can money be taken from the utc?
afaik utc money is their depositors


If there is a way to loot a SOE Moneylal and them will find a way.



UTC a state enterprise?

UTC was created by an act of parliament...in 83....

I don’t think it is.a SOE...I don’t think there is a legal way for GORTT to take funds....only borrow via a bond issue.

But KPB said no borrowing.


IIRC didn't Patrick Manning also want to do this coming up to the end of his tenure.... use the UTC funds as a source of Govt funding?
Yes he did but few will remember that it and choose not to.
He had runs in with the guy in change of UTC


I think he wanted to bring it more under the control of the govt.....I will find out.

That tripe that KPB is putting up as a pillar of her campaign is madness

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Re: The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH) Poll added

Postby zoom rader » July 28th, 2020, 7:32 am

Redman wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
Redman wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:exactly how can money be taken from the utc?
afaik utc money is their depositors


If there is a way to loot a SOE Moneylal and them will find a way.



UTC a state enterprise?

UTC was created by an act of parliament...in 83....

I don’t think it is.a SOE...I don’t think there is a legal way for GORTT to take funds....only borrow via a bond issue.

But KPB said no borrowing.


IIRC didn't Patrick Manning also want to do this coming up to the end of his tenure.... use the UTC funds as a source of Govt funding?
Yes he did but few will remember that it and choose not to.
He had runs in with the guy in change of UTC


I think he wanted to bring it more under the control of the govt.....I will find out.

That tripe that KPB is putting up as a pillar of her campaign is madness


It was about miro management where PNM was trying to mess with it. 1% had influence on this but it was stopped . This was in early 2000s

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