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Are you taking the COVID-19 Vaccine?

Yes, I am already vaccinated.
81
67%
Yes, I am awaiting vaccination.
12
10%
No, I don't want it.
19
16%
I am not sure.
9
7%
 
Total votes: 121

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby Gladiator » June 13th, 2021, 11:31 pm



14 Million dollars for lobbyist and thats all they could do boy Habit... a phone call and 80 Vial of vaccine....sheesh

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby De Dragon » June 14th, 2021, 12:40 am

Gladiator wrote:


14 Million dollars for lobbyist and thats all they could do boy Habit... a phone call and 80 Vial of vaccine....sheesh

Value for money, LFD RFD PNM style............

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby The_Honourable » June 14th, 2021, 3:11 am

Pfizer donation needs full disclosure

The hush-hush arrival of a “small donation” of vials of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine, flown in and apparently hand-delivered by courier to the Ministry of National Security, raises more questions than the number of vials involved.

After yesterday’s silence from the relevant authorities, we expect the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the United States Embassy to fill out the missing pieces of information regarding this delivery which, according to the Ministry of National Security’s statement, was for its own use.

The first issue that arises is the complete lack of public information surrounding this donation. Up to Saturday afternoon, when both Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley and Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh addressed the media, no mention was made about the delivery that arrived that very day. Indeed, Dr Rowley was clear on indicating that the Government had received no information about the vaccine donations promised by the US government.

Conspicuously absent from yesterday’s statement by the Ministry of National Security was any mention of any involvement in the receipt of the vaccines by Health Ministry officials. This is particularly noteworthy given that, as far as we know, this was the first batch of Pfizer vaccines to arrive in the country. This particular vaccine has very stringent handling protocols requiring ultra-low freezer storage at temperatures between -80ºC and -60ºC and away from light. One would have imagined that senior health officials would have been on hand to supervise the process.

The ministry’s reporting of this donation came with none of the usual photos and details which mark the arrival of each shipment of vaccines, whether donated or not. The question remains, therefore, who collected it and how has it been stored since arrival, assuming it was transported under the recommended guidelines.

How the Ministry of National Security came to acquire this gift for itself in what appears to be a direct bilateral arrangement is another dimension of this mystery. In any case, essential staff of the Ministry of National Security were among the first group to be vaccinated from the first batch of AstraZeneca vaccines.

Far from providing the information raised by these questions, the Ministry of National Security issued a statement that had to be withdrawn for errors. First, it reported that the Government of T&T had received a “gift of Pfizer vaccines from the government and people of the United States” for which it was “thankful”. Soon after, another statement was issued saying that “the Ministry of National Security… has accepted a small donation of Pfizer vaccines from the government of the United States for use by National Security.”

The Government must recognise that public trust is at stake here.

Before National Security issued its first statement, a claim was posted on social media about a small cache of Pfizer vaccines being seized by Customs on Saturday. In addition, there is lingering concern among some related to the recent allegation by the president of the Fyzabad Business Association about illegal entry of Pfizer vaccines for private use which the police determined to be fake news.

The lack of clear information on this donation feeds distrust. Whatever the size, full disclosure is required.

Source: https://trinidadexpress.com/opinion/edi ... ba2bc.html

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby De Dragon » June 14th, 2021, 4:36 am

You know something sketchy going on when attention whore Tearsy not in he high vis vest receiving vaccines. Once again LFD RFD PNM cloak and dagger nonsense which I'm sure Tuntsy and Colos will be glad to explain to us is on the up and up :roll:
Just like Arse Wari jet setting, goes een goes out, gun toting children, the LFD RFD PNM horde will accept this unquestioningly, defend it to the hilt, while they and their relatives line up in the hot sun or rain for vaccines.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby pugboy » June 14th, 2021, 6:47 am

they go have to jook them pfizer real quick before they spoil
and get another shipment for second shot

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby pugboy » June 14th, 2021, 7:50 am

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-embassy-t ... 48348.html

seems the lil shipment sent weekend was legit
pea and the rest of keybd warriors go have to duck salt now

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby j.o.e » June 14th, 2021, 9:19 am

pugboy wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-embassy-trinidad-tobago-mocked-101848348.html

seems the lil shipment sent weekend was legit
pea and the rest of keybd warriors go have to duck salt now


Usual thing. Buss a file and then go quiet with no retraction. Don’t know how these people maintain any credibility.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby Habit7 » June 14th, 2021, 9:26 am

A year or two from now, one of these idiots will recall this fake scandal as if it were true.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby popozan » June 14th, 2021, 10:55 am

Or maybe…..just maybe….Trinidad and Tobago isn’t in good standings with the United States and we got a small sample just to spite us. It costs a lot of money to send such a small sample so it would be cost effective to send a lot. Yes we can argue that it will go to elites, but do you think an elite in Trinidad has that much sway over the US government?
They made an announcement with much fanfare as well on Twitter.

Meanwhile St. Vincent was promised a large donation, other countries with less GDP than ours are receiving more as well.

Was it a mistake? Was it meant for the rich in Trinidad? (Who could simply fly out to get their vaccine) Was it meant for workers in the US embassy?
Or was it a statement to put us in our place?
Who knows?

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby elec2020 » June 14th, 2021, 11:38 am

There has been a massive increase in deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) this year. That’s not a ‘conspiracy theory’, that’s an indisputable fact. You can try to explain it or justify it, or even argue it doesn’t matter, but you can’t deny it.


We’re not talking about a modest increase in death reports, something we might chat about in concerned voices over Chai tea and bagels at a company mixer. We’re talking about a huge and unprecedented increase—so massive that in the last 4 months alone, VAERS has received over 40% of all death reports it has ever received in its entire 30+year history.


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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby j.o.e » June 14th, 2021, 11:46 am

elec2020 wrote:
There has been a massive increase in deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) this year. That’s not a ‘conspiracy theory’, that’s an indisputable fact. You can try to explain it or justify it, or even argue it doesn’t matter, but you can’t deny it.


We’re not talking about a modest increase in death reports, something we might chat about in concerned voices over Chai tea and bagels at a company mixer. We’re talking about a huge and unprecedented increase—so massive that in the last 4 months alone, VAERS has received over 40% of all death reports it has ever received in its entire 30+year history.


https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/ ... ne-coverup



Ahhh. Statistics if you quote them just right they can say what you want. Over the last 30 years when have we had such a large vaccine roll out ? Obviously there would be an increase.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby elec2020 » June 14th, 2021, 12:28 pm

^ on that note:

Medical and public health professionals have generally treated positive results from PCR-based tests for COVID-19 as if they are completely reliable. We're told that if we test positive, then we are infected with the virus, and that positive results in PCR tests are rarely if ever inaccurate. In fact, however, false positives occur in PCR tests for COVID-19 often enough to be a significant problem.

https://www.icd10monitor.com/false-posi ... r-covid-19

Children in England are being unfairly punished by the insistence they must abide by "incorrect" positive results from rapid Covid tests, experts say.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56349116

The UK government’s plans for community testing for covid-19 received a further blow this week when early results from students testing at the University of Birmingham and universities in Scotland showed that tests had a sensitivity of just 3% and that 58% of positive test results were false.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4941

you are right, in that stats can be used to fuel whatever agenda. Like using false positive results to make the masses believe that there is an explosion of COVID-19 cases. However, i am yet to see articles discrediting reports on adverse reactions to the vaccine. For instance, https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby adnj » June 14th, 2021, 12:53 pm

elec2020 wrote:^ on that note:

Medical and public health professionals have generally treated positive results from PCR-based tests for COVID-19 as if they are completely reliable. We're told that if we test positive, then we are infected with the virus, and that positive results in PCR tests are rarely if ever inaccurate. In fact, however, false positives occur in PCR tests for COVID-19 often enough to be a significant problem.

https://www.icd10monitor.com/false-posi ... r-covid-19

Children in England are being unfairly punished by the insistence they must abide by "incorrect" positive results from rapid Covid tests, experts say.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56349116

The UK government’s plans for community testing for covid-19 received a further blow this week when early results from students testing at the University of Birmingham and universities in Scotland showed that tests had a sensitivity of just 3% and that 58% of positive test results were false.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4941

you are right, in that stats can be used to fuel whatever agenda. Like using false positive results to make the masses believe that there is an explosion of COVID-19 cases. However, i am yet to see articles discrediting reports on adverse reactions to the vaccine. For instance, https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/
There are mounds of data and continuing research into adverse Covid-19 disease and vaccine reaction. It isn't being hidden - it is simply rare and/or not sufficiently understood.

If you choose to amplify the issues, that is your personal choice. Dog§hit on the street affects the person that steps in it more than the others.

If you post on tuner to fan the flames with the like-minded, you will certainly find many willing to agree with anything you post - the more scurrilous, the better.

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Why is it so hard to investigate the rare side effects of COVID vaccines?

For the vast majority of people, COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. But further research is needed to understand the causes of rare adverse events.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00880-9

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby Dohplaydat » June 14th, 2021, 1:41 pm

Myocarditis is scary, it feels very much like a heart attack.

Find it quite odd that this is the first time we're seeing this from the mRNA vaccines. That said, myocarditis is harmless and will almost never have any long-term effects.

But it's probably best we don't ever mandate that we vaccinate persons under 15, leave up to the parents and child's and inform them fully of the risks.

We can achieve herd immunity if 80-90% of persons over 15 take the vaccine.

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Postby adnj » June 14th, 2021, 2:47 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Myocarditis is scary, it feels very much like a heart attack.

Find it quite odd that this is the first time we're seeing this from the mRNA vaccines. That said, myocarditis is harmless and will almost never have any long-term effects.

But it's probably best we don't ever mandate that we vaccinate persons under 15, leave up to the parents and child's and inform them fully of the risks.

We can achieve herd immunity if 80-90% of persons over 15 take the vaccine.
Myocarditis is a risk for children associated with both Covid-19 and the Covid-19 vaccines.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English ... eople.aspx

https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiolog ... ricarditis

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Postby redmanjp » June 14th, 2021, 3:05 pm

pugboy wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-embassy-trinidad-tobago-mocked-101848348.html

seems the lil shipment sent weekend was legit
pea and the rest of keybd warriors go have to duck salt now



The embassy website also announces President Joe Biden's commitment to deliver 500 million vaccines to low-income nations via COVAX, but Trinidad and Tobago does not qualify under that scheme.


what? we not supposed to get covax? or we just not getting it free?

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby WhiteAnalyst » June 14th, 2021, 3:21 pm

When you guys think we reaching herd immunity?

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Postby eliteauto » June 14th, 2021, 3:34 pm

The 200K doses of Sinopharm as arrived

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Postby redmanjp » June 14th, 2021, 3:34 pm

WhiteAnalyst wrote:When you guys think we reaching herd immunity?


late next year. bases on both the vaccine efficacy as well as MOH's ability to put shots into arms as quickly as possible. also vaccine hesitancy will set in once we open it up to the younger population, just like in the US now.

but hopefully if we prioritize elderly/high risk ppl, the worse will be over much sooner- i.e. hospitalizations and deaths brought down this year and we can ease some restrictions

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby elec2020 » June 14th, 2021, 4:04 pm

adnj wrote:
elec2020 wrote:^ on that note:

Medical and public health professionals have generally treated positive results from PCR-based tests for COVID-19 as if they are completely reliable. We're told that if we test positive, then we are infected with the virus, and that positive results in PCR tests are rarely if ever inaccurate. In fact, however, false positives occur in PCR tests for COVID-19 often enough to be a significant problem.

https://www.icd10monitor.com/false-posi ... r-covid-19

Children in England are being unfairly punished by the insistence they must abide by "incorrect" positive results from rapid Covid tests, experts say.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56349116

The UK government’s plans for community testing for covid-19 received a further blow this week when early results from students testing at the University of Birmingham and universities in Scotland showed that tests had a sensitivity of just 3% and that 58% of positive test results were false.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4941

you are right, in that stats can be used to fuel whatever agenda. Like using false positive results to make the masses believe that there is an explosion of COVID-19 cases. However, i am yet to see articles discrediting reports on adverse reactions to the vaccine. For instance, https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/
There are mounds of data and continuing research into adverse Covid-19 disease and vaccine reaction. It isn't being hidden - it is simply rare and/or not sufficiently understood.

If you choose to amplify the issues, that is your personal choice. Dog§hit on the street affects the person that steps in it more than the others.

If you post on tuner to fan the flames with the like-minded, you will certainly find many willing to agree with anything you post - the more scurrilous, the better.

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Why is it so hard to investigate the rare side effects of COVID vaccines?

For the vast majority of people, COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. But further research is needed to understand the causes of rare adverse events.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00880-9



i am not saying that adverse covid reactions are being covered up. But that just how they have articles discrediting covid testing (and as such calling into question total COVID-19 case numbers), there are not as much discrediting adverse covid reactions. Implying that the original article i posted has some merit to it. Only time will tell

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby stev » June 14th, 2021, 5:28 pm

Didn't really post an update in a while....was scheduled to get my second shot on Wednesday but I just got a call and was asked to come in Friday instead. :|

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby Redman » June 14th, 2021, 5:38 pm

We had the Sinopharm last Friday.
Both of us have a very low grade fever and headaches since yesterday.

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Postby MaxPower » June 14th, 2021, 6:40 pm

stev wrote:Didn't really post an update in a while....was scheduled to get my second shot on Wednesday but I just got a call and was asked to come in Friday instead. :|


Hello stev,

Hope it goes well for you.

Please let the team know how things go.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby Chimera » June 14th, 2021, 7:05 pm

i got sinopharm last thursday
probably saturday me and 2-3 other people who took it same time as me all started to get mild headaches, dizzyness

everything good after that though

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby carluva » June 14th, 2021, 7:18 pm

Back to normal for me after my shake up Thursday and Friday.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby daring dragoon » June 14th, 2021, 7:30 pm

ent dey say hugo chavez was injected with something to cause his liver or kidney failure and his death so that the almighty north can get the oil. what better way to get TT oil and gas than to have them all inject they own self and the rising sun will rise again.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby MaxPower » June 14th, 2021, 7:55 pm

Glad to hear the boys pulling through.

I fraid still.

If i getting a link for the Pfizer….take it?

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby gastly369 » June 14th, 2021, 8:00 pm

MaxPower wrote:Glad to hear the boys pulling through.

I fraid still.

If i getting a link for the Pfizer….take it?
Take what's available for you


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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby WhiteAnalyst » June 14th, 2021, 8:08 pm

MaxPower wrote:Glad to hear the boys pulling through.

I fraid still.

If i getting a link for the Pfizer….take it?


Doh hold back.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby carluva » June 14th, 2021, 8:56 pm

What exactly are you afraid of Max and why the insistence on Pfizer?
MaxPower wrote:Glad to hear the boys pulling through.

I fraid still.

If i getting a link for the Pfizer….take it?

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