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Postby wagonrunner » January 6th, 2010, 1:44 pm

evo-STI-k wrote:this is why i asked the question about HOW they plan on valuating your property according to AREAS!

was the method advertised, or speculation?
i really don't know.[/b]

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Postby bluesteel29 » January 6th, 2010, 3:41 pm

RASC wrote:
bluesteel29 wrote:how meh granma gonna pay the increase wen she dun livin on pension :|


Pensioners are excluded from the tax.


boom bang...granny geh tah keep she house oui

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Postby Rooki3 » January 6th, 2010, 7:02 pm

wagonrunner wrote:
evo-STI-k wrote:this is why i asked the question about HOW they plan on valuating your property according to AREAS!

was the method advertised, or speculation?
i really don't know.[/b]


Its not speculation.............I work as a Revenue Officer II ag. & we don't even know how they are going about charging ppl. We even posed the question to *Dr. Eddison Richardson* & he himself cannot give a valid explanation.


Dr. Eddison Richardson- this is said to be the guy who was one of the chief men who pioneered the "property tax" venture, it began after dr. edd........came back from the USA after spending many years there & decided to bring his deceased parents land tax up to date, he had an oustanding bill 15+ yrs.....................so he said he went to the bank & withdrew $10,000TT. & hoped that that would be enough to clear the arrears. He said what really struck him, is that when he arrived @ the District Revenue Office to Inquire on the arrears on his L+B Taxes, the said to him the oustanding amount, was jus over $600.TT

He decided to meet with some of his intellectual Trini friends(all politicians)
7 he envisioned a way of him coming up with an idea to "Give back to His country" :roll:

He said to us(employees) personally that if we had any question on the Tax Reform, lets feel free to email his.

So tuner I'm giving you the chance to email him yourself....................PM me for it if your serious 8-)


BTW Property Tax Reform Has Nothing to do with the Revenue Authority of Trinidad & Tobago

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Postby RASC » January 13th, 2010, 1:09 pm

I really hope that this Tax works.
Lord knows decent hard working Trinbagonians have been at the mercy of a certain "element" for way too long. Hopefully the tax will result in many of them being priced out of certain areas and into others.

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Postby crazybalhead » January 13th, 2010, 1:59 pm

In the debate on valuation, mariano said that there are currently TWO RICS certified valuers and "about 15" or so uncertified ones they just hired. :| :|

YOU have to give a self assessment of your property on a form, and then they will base your tax on this ! :shock:

You will be penalised if the information given is incorrect to the best of your knowledge. :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Postby evo-STI-k » January 13th, 2010, 2:03 pm

another reformed taxation to ROb innocent hard wukkinbg citizens!

Designed to hit the middle class HArd once again!

and will they publish the AREAS in trinidad that will not sfuffer an increase?

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Postby crazybalhead » January 13th, 2010, 2:05 pm

[bachannal]oropune gardens,torouba,pleasantville,corinth,etc. etc.[/bachannal]

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Postby evo-STI-k » January 13th, 2010, 2:25 pm

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crazybalhead wrote:In the debate on valuation, mariano said that there are currently TWO RICS certified valuers and "about 15" or so uncertified ones they just hired. :| :|

YOU have to give a self assessment of your property on a form, and then they will base your tax on this ! :shock:

You will be penalised if the information given is incorrect to the best of your knowledge. :shock: :shock: :shock:


you will be sent to Principal Manning's office where you will be soundly fUDGEd...


:shock: :shock: :shock:

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Postby beyond » January 13th, 2010, 4:27 pm

if legitimate home owners have to pay increased taxes to support the services in the area (garbage pick up, road maintenance, etc etc)

i think in places like maloney laventille la horquetta with depressed real estate value a new tax should be implemented to support the increased amount of police services needed and the increased amount of doctors for bullet riddled bodies in the hospital and increased army presence.

and concerning the fact that if your home has a a/c unit the tax will increase.

well in maloney if you have a relative in golden groove , your tax will also increase.

true first world status. :o :o :o

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Postby bluesteel29 » January 13th, 2010, 4:36 pm

^
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby evo-STI-k » January 14th, 2010, 7:28 am

beyond wrote:if legitimate home owners have to pay increased taxes to support the services in the area (garbage pick up, road maintenance, etc etc)

i think in places like maloney laventille la horquetta with depressed real estate value a new tax should be implemented to support the increased amount of police services needed and the increased amount of doctors for bullet riddled bodies in the hospital and increased army presence.

and concerning the fact that if your home has a a/c unit the tax will increase.

well in maloney if you have a relative in golden groove , your tax will also increase.

true first world status. :o :o :o


:lol: :lol: :lol:

PUBLEESH EET!!!!!

hahahaha

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Postby TriniVdub » January 14th, 2010, 10:41 am

Oleander wrote:Agreed

I still think it's unnecessary I am from Rio Claro and the state provided not one piece of infrastructure where I live :evil:


what part of Rio?

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Postby TriniVdub » January 14th, 2010, 10:44 am

Rooki3 wrote:how allyuh expect to pay back china the money for the performing arts

We sending mail for allyuh it should be there by March



that performing arts center is a complete waste of time...imagine that it roughly covers the same area as Madison Square Gardens which can hole over 30k people, yet this performing arts center can only hold 1300. Think about that.... :?

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Postby crazybalhead » January 14th, 2010, 10:46 am

TriniVdub wrote:
Oleander wrote:Agreed

I still think it's unnecessary I am from Rio Claro and the state provided not one piece of infrastructure where I live :evil:


what part of Rio?


IN DE BUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH BY TRIHANGLE TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby evo-STI-k » January 14th, 2010, 12:17 pm

So the president gave his thoughts on the property Taxes and Imbert Dismisses it like PFFT!

Smells like dictatorship!

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Postby sMASH » January 15th, 2010, 6:30 am

when ur property tax is assessed, it takes into consideration the land area u occupy, its location ( so the unfairness they say they getting rid of still there). but does that mean that u only have to pay the property tax instead of the land tax and house tax?

the rent land where i am, the house tax is paid by the home owner to the BIR, but the land tax is paid to the land owner, who then supposed to pay the BIR (but BIR say he neva does, so we gettin legal in he pwefum). that is our scenario, who gettin money, and who not

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » January 15th, 2010, 10:32 pm

crazybalhead wrote:
TriniVdub wrote:
Oleander wrote:Agreed

I still think it's unnecessary I am from Rio Claro and the state provided not one piece of infrastructure where I live :evil:


what part of Rio?


IN DE BUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH BY TRIHANGLE TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


= less property tax to pay dan yooooouuuu!!!!!!!!! 8-)

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Wait..WHAT!!! Property Tax is back?

Postby eliteauto » February 24th, 2011, 1:30 am

http://guardian.co.tt/news/2011/02/24/back-old-law

Hours after Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley broke news of the Government’s move to introduce and approve legislation to approve a new property tax bill, Legal Affairs Minister Prakash Ramadhar said he fully supported the initiative. Ramadhar had been among the leading critics of the Property Taxes Bill introduced by the former PNM government in 2009. Ramadhar said it was not true to say that the Government was reintroducing the property tax. “The property tax which they (PNM) envisaged, we have removed that.”

He was questioned by reporters during yesterday tea break of the House of Representatives sitting at the Red House in Port-of-Spain. He said the People’s Partnership Government was reverting to the law as it obtained before the property tax. Told that it was just a change of name as the two bills were very similar, Ramadhar quickly responded: “Not at all, not at all.”
Told that the new bill proposed a seven-and-a-half per cent rate of tax for residents as opposed to three per cent under the PNM bill, the Legal Affairs Minister said: “Well, I am saying that we are returning to what was there before, which the population had found comfort in and had found great fear in the legislation they brought. “That’s as simple as I could put it,” he insisted. Ramadhar, who is expected to speak in the debate, said he could not comment on the details of the People’s Partnership bill. “What I am saying is that we are returning to the original position.”

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Postby eliteauto » February 24th, 2011, 1:32 am

http://guardian.co.tt/news/2011/02/24/i ... ays-rowley

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley says the People’s Partnership Government is moving to approve a new property tax bill. Rowley, who called a news conference at his Charles Street office in Port-of- Spain yesterday to announce the development, declared: “This is a betrayal.” During the May 24, 2010, election campaign, the People’s Partnership was critical of moves by the then PNM government to revise and rename the tax and promised it would be abolished if they were elected to government.
The Congress of the People (COP), one unit in the People’s Partnership coalition, led an “axe-the-tax” campaign. Rowley said yesterday: “In the dead of night, on the eve of Carnival, the Government slips this bill (Lands and Buildings Taxes Act) into Parliament.” He said the People’s Partnership was elected to govern this country because of its election promise to abolish the tax. Since the PP assumed power, there has been an amnesty on the tax and residents have not been paying it.
Rowley said the taxes were necessary to assist in the development of the country. He said the new bill proposes to increase the tax by more than 100 per cent of what the former PNM government had proposed. Rowley, reading from the new bill, said residential property tax would increase from three per cent under the former government to seven-and-a-half per cent annually. He added that the bill contained a provision for the Minister of Finance to subsequently increase the tax by a further three per cent to ten per cent.
He described the move as “the worst betrayal that can happen in the political environment in T&T.” Rowley said the Kamla Persad-Bissessar administration had squandered its mandate. “As they have laid this before the Parliament, even before they debate or pass it, this Government has now destroyed its legitimacy in the eyes of the population,” he said. He added that the PP had “no moral basis to hold on to office in this country or to govern the people of this country.”
The Opposition Leader said whether it was called land and building tax or property tax, it is the same. He also said the bill proposed by the PP retained many of the provisions contained in the Property Tax Bill, including a provision to forfeit the property of non-paying residents. Rowley said under the former property tax, the University of the West Indies, the University of T&T, the University of the Southern Caribbean and cemeteries were exempt from the tax, but in the new bill only UWI was exempt. He said “under no circumstances” would the Opposition support the proposed legislation, which required a simple majority for passage.
He said the PNM was not saying the tax was not necessary, but was of the view “that this Government has no moral authority to take this action against the people.” Rowley said citizens of T&T should not allow themselves to be taxed until there were fresh elections. He said two years ago when citizens had jobs and the economy was stronger, they were told not to pay the three per cent tax. Former finance minister Karen Tesheira had predicted that the PP Government would have to bring property tax, even if it was called by another name.

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Re: Wait..WHAT!!! Property Tax is back?

Postby eliteauto » February 24th, 2011, 1:37 am

related articles in other newspapers:

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PM_ ... 83663.html

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Pra ... 83658.html

is the tax by another name merely semantics? Poh-ta-to/Po-Tah-to ? Or are the differences enough to say Rowley blowing smoke?

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Postby crazybalhead » February 24th, 2011, 6:18 am

The census people ask yuh how much yuh would rent yuh prperty for Elite???

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Postby SUPAstarr » February 24th, 2011, 6:32 am

"Well, I am saying that we are returning to what was there before"

the prime minister on news last night declared that they are repealin the property tax act, i call BS by Rowley until i see different. To me rowley is so ineffective, he lacks i dunno if credibility but he does not command my interest when he talks. PNM need to sort him out quick or get someone else/

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Postby turbosingh » February 24th, 2011, 6:49 am

crazybalhead wrote:The census people ask yuh how much yuh would rent yuh prperty for Elite???


The census lady ask meh to Measure all the rooms in my house per sq ft.So i ask her if this is to raise tax an she gave me a wicked smile.An i wuz like get the fack out of my place :?

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Postby eliteauto » February 24th, 2011, 7:44 am

crazybalhead wrote:The census people ask yuh how much yuh would rent yuh prperty for Elite???


yea they tried that shot on me, I gave her a low figure but I'm sure many "this area stush yuhnno" gave larger figures :?

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Postby jhonnieblue » February 24th, 2011, 7:51 am

i dont think they are goin back to the new property tax, but the reference he made to everyone will be comfortable is not comforting at all
my belief is they are going to raise the tax under the old laws
so we will still be paying more tax
fact is we a re losing revenue due to competing prices due to shale gas in the states
our main revenue is going down at a rpaid rate
oil is no longer where it used to be wrt our economy
unless we diversify expect to see taxes increasing across the board

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Postby RIPEBREDFRUIT » February 24th, 2011, 7:57 am

SUPAstarr wrote:"Well, I am saying that we are returning to what was there before"

the prime minister on news last night declared that they are repealin the property tax act, i call BS by Rowley until i see different. To me rowley is so ineffective, he lacks i dunno if credibility but he does not command my interest when he talks. PNM need to sort him out quick or get someone else/

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Postby crazybalhead » February 24th, 2011, 7:58 am

eliteauto wrote:
crazybalhead wrote:The census people ask yuh how much yuh would rent yuh prperty for Elite???


yea they tried that shot on me, I gave her a low figure but I'm sure many "this area stush yuhnno" gave larger figures :?



The wifey hit them a "I don't know". The lady was like "Take a guess nar!!!! *teheee*", and she said, "Look, right there on the form, there is a box saying don't know, just tick that one and stop asking me, I told you I don't know."

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Postby crazybalhead » February 24th, 2011, 7:59 am

Northern South America is going to be the new land of milk and honey. mark my words, GUYANA/SURINAME/FRENCH GUYANA TIME NOW

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Postby TRAE » February 24th, 2011, 8:16 am

jhonnieblue wrote:i dont think they are goin back to the new property tax, but the reference he made to everyone will be comfortable is not comforting at all
my belief is they are going to raise the tax under the old laws
so we will still be paying more tax
fact is we a re losing revenue due to competing prices due to shale gas in the states
our main revenue is going down at a rpaid rate
oil is no longer where it used to be wrt our economy
unless we diversify expect to see taxes increasing across the board



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