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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby Conrad » June 22nd, 2015, 8:09 am

Awesome shots!

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby TurboSingh12 » June 22nd, 2015, 9:51 am

ABA Trading LTD wrote:So who actually bring back wallerfield? Sancho?


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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby toyolink » June 22nd, 2015, 9:55 am

Well done to all concerned.
I viewed the performance of C. Boodoosingh with admiration.
This young driver certainly demonstrated a very controlled 'head'.
All my viewing was done on tele. and it was quite good given the reality of our circumstances at this stage.
I was hoping to see what the Renault was capable of,but maybe next time.

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Postby Kinday » June 22nd, 2015, 10:01 am

^^ Boodoosingh really drove well

Megane is a bit underpowered tbh....and he had a lot of traction problems even before the track got wet. Great event nonetheless....T&T was represented well

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Postby moti » June 22nd, 2015, 10:56 am

Kinday wrote:^^ Boodoosingh really drove well

Megane is a bit underpowered tbh....and he had a lot of traction problems even before the track got wet. Great event nonetheless....T&T was represented well



The driver of the Megane was not capable of showing the car's true potential on the new surface.

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Postby Kinday » June 22nd, 2015, 11:16 am

Maybe so.... You are right, the driver is still learning the car and didn't put in the total amount of seat time required to drive it correctly. The car itself was running the set up from Jamaica CMRC including mapping, suspension set up and tires to sit the conditions over there. They kept trying throughout the week to get the car right but it kept losing grip and becoming unstable when pushed at various points on the tracks. Most of the car's performance is heavily dependent on terrific handling and stability as it lacks the awesome raw power of the turbo cars. That said hopefully they would get it all right at the next event

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 22nd, 2015, 11:59 am

Kinday wrote:^^ Boodoosingh really drove well

Megane is a bit underpowered tbh....and he had a lot of traction problems even before the track got wet. Great event nonetheless....T&T was represented well
the car isn't underpowered at all. Franklyn is still feeling out the car, he said he isn't comfortable putting down the power, even more so in the wet. It is not 4 wheel drive. It is not cheap and it's safer to take the time to learn the car. He also drove the Fiesta in GP2. Jumping from one car to the next and having to change driving style can be challenging.

IMO cars like the Megane Cup Car require downforce to work, that means running it hard. In slower sections the downforce cannot work and the car will not work as it should. They were built for longer, faster tracks. But that's just my thoughts.


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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby Morpheus » June 22nd, 2015, 12:36 pm

Makes sense about the smaller track. Don't think all the bends favour it. That thing was flying down the straight on Friday. Very fast indeed.

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby MG Man » June 22nd, 2015, 12:37 pm

how much does it weigh? Light cars don;t have much mechanical grip, which would fit with Duane's explanation

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby 16 cycles » June 22nd, 2015, 12:38 pm

could open up the "new race track" forum again?

....Amar said the facility will now cater to three categories of motorsports—drag racing, circuit racing and go-cart racing......

....The next big event will take place on Independence Day (August 31), Amar said.


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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby toyolink » June 22nd, 2015, 12:44 pm

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Kinday wrote:^^ Boodoosingh really drove well

Megane is a bit underpowered tbh....and he had a lot of traction problems even before the track got wet. Great event nonetheless....T&T was represented well
the car isn't underpowered at all. Franklyn is still feeling out the car, he said he isn't comfortable putting down the power, even more so in the wet. It is not 4 wheel drive. It is not cheap and it's safer to take the time to learn the car. He also drove the Fiesta in GP2. Jumping from one car to the next and having to change driving style can be challenging.

IMO cars like the Megane Cup Car require downforce to work, that means running it hard. In slower sections the downforce cannot work and the car will not work as it should. They were built for longer, faster tracks. But that's just my thoughts.


This is quite interesting, but didn't the Renault on its last outing in T&T perform more aggressively (granted conditions were dry then).
I actually thought the vehicle had some mechanical issues.

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby cornfused » June 22nd, 2015, 1:00 pm

C. Boodoosingh did drive very well , thanks for the corrections above and the information coming forward with the Megane. Another racecar I was hoping to do well was the HN Racing B13. He was mid pack 4th to 5th in some races and maybe had some issues .

The camera coverage was meh , the commentary nor sound ,did not match what was being shown on screen . The imagery was clear . Those drift guys did very well I thought ,some real crowd pleasing performances in a controlled environment.

In some races the fight for the inside on the first corner after the straight , drivers were putting the right wheels to the inside of the curb and putting what looked like dirt on the track.
We are all happy to have Wallerfield back , I could have never understood the thinking that a race facility cannot be in an industrial estate . Will this be available for drag racing ? so they say .

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby Monk BANzai » June 22nd, 2015, 1:14 pm

SR wrote:Robert amar franky boodram ttasa as well as many interested parties who want back a race track (wallerfield). Weeks of hard work on a daily basis by all these people to get it ready for the event yesterday. As well as a signed 2 year contract for use of wallerfield with renewal every 2 years. Somthing that no one has ever been able to get in the past as it was always empty promises .



nice. Hope the Interested parties keep the pressure on TTASA to deliver. Not too keen on the TTASA team.. but kudos on them delivering. Hoping they can open up the track to some private track days for persons and/or clubs who want to compete amongst themselves and known drivers rather than having "tom dick n harry" sharing track time and not knowing their driving skill.

Also hope TTASA and crew bring back driving schools for those wanting to learn racing lines and the mechanics (and rules) of circuit racing.

*calls Christian Tam to bring the Ferrari and Porsche for some laps.....

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Postby Aaron 2NR » June 22nd, 2015, 1:17 pm

yeh i need to learn lines

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Postby Kinday » June 22nd, 2015, 1:18 pm

:) Nice vid Duane..... In fact that particular Megane (#45) is the actual Mc Gregor car which is a championship car from the series. When it was being purchased it was requested that Team Equipe Verschuur bump up the power because of the differences between class and regulations of the Megane Trophy vs CMRC. Verschuur insisted it was good enough because it was a champion car, Franklyn pleaded that it be done because as we told him "Those Evos are no joke"....After a few weeks of persuasion, they eventually conceded and power was bumped up to just under 400hp on the same Nissan VQ35 naturally aspirated engine. Engine was retuned, suspension reworked and tested for performance then they called and said it was ready for shipping. On another note, the Fiesta was also being sorted and shipped at the same time.
When the Megane came, Verschuur (who is the father of the series champion driver) and the tuner/ engineer came for the Trinidad leg of CMRC 2013 to set it up and to help Franklyn learn the car. It was a challenge particularly because Franklyn is very accustomed to FF vehicles. With no firm track then, the plan was to take the car to Guyana for him to learn but we were busy with other business at the time so it was never done. And we chose to stay out of the Guyana CMRC rounds, so Franklyn took a back seat we carried the Group 2 civic which Frankie raced in the series. That's another story lol

Gosh would love to give the full rundown but is to much to type lol. Speed up to weekend gone by, Verschuur and Martin came from Holland again. Verschuur was also to drive but he was ill. On another note, Verschuur realized and admitted after he drove last year that the car needed a bit more horsepower to be very competitive especially on the straight when compared to the Evo he ran against driven by Jeffries, however no changes would be made to the car until its is properly learnt and handled by Frankyn. Both names were enlisted a drivers over the weekend but with the many challenges, Franklyn who still has minimal seat time had to drive it... Big difference! Franklyn's best time is low 44 seconds in comparison to Verschuur's former record setting pace of 41.3 secs. After the Top Power evo rewrote the Wallerfield best GRP 4 lap time to 40.25 on Saturday, Verschuur really wanted a crack at reclaiming the record on Sunday but weather and illness got the better of him. With regards to Franklyn, I agree, he probably really was caught between the Fiesta (rebuilt by Tola) and the Megane but it was a choice he made a couple years ago when he said he wanted to return to racing. He is strong mentally though...I'm thinking its a matter of time before he gets it right. Good luck to him

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Postby stikid09 » June 22nd, 2015, 1:21 pm

Added some more photos to the album, here.

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby Monk BANzai » June 22nd, 2015, 1:21 pm

Kinday wrote::) Nice vid Duane..... In fact that particular Megane (#45) is the actual Mc Gregor car which is a championship car from the series. When it was being purchased it was requested that Team Equipe Verschuur bump up the power because of the differences between class and regulations of the Megane Trophy vs CMRC. Verschuur insisted it was good enough because it was a champion car, Franklyn pleaded that it be done because as we told him "Those Evos are no joke"....After a few weeks of persuasion, they eventually conceded and power was bumped up to just under 400hp on the same Nissan VQ35 naturally aspirated engine. Engine was retuned, suspension reworked and tested for performance then they called and said it was ready for shipping. On another note, the Fiesta was also being sorted and shipped at the same time.
When the Megane came, Verschuur (who is the father of the series champion driver) and the tuner/ engineer came for the Trinidad leg of CMRC 2013 to set it up and to help Franklyn learn the car. It was a challenge particularly because Franklyn is very accustomed to FF vehicles. With no firm track then, the plan was to take the car to Guyana for him to learn but we were busy with other business at the time so it was never done. And we chose to stay out of the Guyana CMRC rounds, so Franklyn took a back seat we carried the Group 2 civic which Frankie raced in the series. That's another story lol

Gosh would love to give the full rundown but is to much to type lol. Speed up to weekend gone by, Verschuur and Martin came from Holland again. Verschuur was also to drive but he was ill. On another note, Verschuur realized and admitted after he drove last year that the car needed a bit more horsepower to be very competitive especially on the straight when compared to the Evo he ran against driven by Jeffries, however no changes would be made to the car until its is properly learnt and handled by Frankyn. Both names were enlisted a drivers over the weekend but with the many challenges, Franklyn who still has minimal seat time had to drive it... Big difference! Franklyn's best time is low 44 seconds in comparison to Verschuur's former record setting pace of 41.3 secs. After the Top Power evo rewrote the Wallerfield best GRP 4 lap time to 40.25 on Saturday, Verschuur really wanted a crack at reclaiming the record on Sunday but weather and illness got the better of him. With regards to Franklyn, I agree, he probably really was caught between the Fiesta (rebuilt by Tola) and the Megane but it was a choice he made a couple years ago when he said he wanted to return to racing. He is strong mentally though...I'm thinking its a matter of time before he gets it right. Good luck to him


good read/info... fills up alot of questions/blanks as to the car's performance last year.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 22nd, 2015, 2:08 pm

MG Man wrote:how much does it weigh? Light cars don;t have much mechanical grip, which would fit with Duane's explanation
955 Kg

http://www.equipe-verschuur.nl/index.php/megane-trophy

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 22nd, 2015, 2:12 pm

toyolink wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Kinday wrote:^^ Boodoosingh really drove well

Megane is a bit underpowered tbh....and he had a lot of traction problems even before the track got wet. Great event nonetheless....T&T was represented well
the car isn't underpowered at all. Franklyn is still feeling out the car, he said he isn't comfortable putting down the power, even more so in the wet. It is not 4 wheel drive. It is not cheap and it's safer to take the time to learn the car. He also drove the Fiesta in GP2. Jumping from one car to the next and having to change driving style can be challenging.

IMO cars like the Megane Cup Car require downforce to work, that means running it hard. In slower sections the downforce cannot work and the car will not work as it should. They were built for longer, faster tracks. But that's just my thoughts.


This is quite interesting, but didn't the Renault on its last outing in T&T perform more aggressively (granted conditions were dry then).
I actually thought the vehicle had some mechanical issues.
the car was driven by Franz Verschuur (http://www.equipe-verschuur.nl/) last year in Wallerfield, not by Franklyn.

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Postby MG Man » June 22nd, 2015, 2:48 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
MG Man wrote:how much does it weigh? Light cars don;t have much mechanical grip, which would fit with Duane's explanation
955 Kg

http://www.equipe-verschuur.nl/index.php/megane-trophy


not as light as I was expecting

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby Kongorealm » June 22nd, 2015, 3:14 pm

BANzai Rastafarai wrote:
SR wrote:Robert amar franky boodram ttasa as well as many interested parties who want back a race track (wallerfield). Weeks of hard work on a daily basis by all these people to get it ready for the event yesterday. As well as a signed 2 year contract for use of wallerfield with renewal every 2 years. Somthing that no one has ever been able to get in the past as it was always empty promises .



nice. Hope the Interested parties keep the pressure on TTASA to deliver. Not too keen on the TTASA team.. but kudos on them delivering. Hoping they can open up the track to some private track days for persons and/or clubs who want to compete amongst themselves and known drivers rather than having "tom dick n harry" sharing track time and not knowing their driving skill.

Also hope TTASA and crew bring back driving schools for those wanting to learn racing lines and the mechanics (and rules) of circuit racing.

*calls Christian Tam to bring the Ferrari and Porsche for some laps.....

hoping and praying for what I highlighted in red to come to fruit :mrgreen: plllzzzzzz

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BANzai Rastafarai wrote:
SR wrote:Robert amar franky boodram ttasa as well as many interested parties who want back a race track (wallerfield). Weeks of hard work on a daily basis by all these people to get it ready for the event yesterday. As well as a signed 2 year contract for use of wallerfield with renewal every 2 years. Somthing that no one has ever been able to get in the past as it was always empty promises .



nice. Hope the Interested parties keep the pressure on TTASA to deliver. Not too keen on the TTASA team.. but kudos on them delivering. Hoping they can open up the track to some private track days for persons and/or clubs who want to compete amongst themselves
I'm sure they would, for a fee. it cost a lot of get the track to where it is now.
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:Also hope TTASA and crew bring back driving schools for those wanting to learn racing lines and the mechanics (and rules) of circuit racing.
this will definitely happen.
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:*calls Christian Tam to bring the Ferrari and Porsche for some laps.....
On Thursday a Nissan GTR and a Ferrari 458 Italia were testing on the track. On Friday a BMW M4, a C6 Corvette and a Porsche Panamera were testing. Privatge track days are very possible, contact TTASA.

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Postby SR » June 22nd, 2015, 3:57 pm

There is a lot more to come had a long chat with jameer about all above but they havent worked out the final details as yet as they needed to concentrate on yesterdays event. Things like safety etc need to be included in those private track days as they would not want any tradgedies to mar renewal of contract....

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SR wrote:There is a lot more to come had a long chat with jameer about all above but they havent worked out the final details as yet as they needed to concentrate on yesterdays event. Things like safety etc need to be included in those private track days as they would not want any tradgedies to mar renewal of contract....
definitely, if we want a professionally run facility you can't have cars out on the track without marshals and safety support. This things are not free.

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Postby worksux101 » June 22nd, 2015, 4:27 pm

The track itself also needs a bit of work before street cars can be pushed..namely paving wider going into the top corner and imho a lil bit longer on the outside coming out of the hairpin..both are a disaster waiting to happen if a car comes off the asphalt into the concrete then jumps back on..

MG if im not mistaken the car was lighter, but they had to add weight just to keep it within cmrc regulations..

What impressed me the most was whoever tuned Boodoosingh's car..for it to keep up with Jeffries on the straight was some feat.
For those who dont know, the guy who does jeffries car is crazy good..brian ten pow/top power..when he got went back to guyana a few yrs ago from canada, he did viera's car which was untouchable in the caribbean. Since he's been doing the evos u can see how well its performed.

Would love to see Doug Gore come down from jamaica next year :twisted:

Again..kudos to Ttasa for achieving all this..who wouldve thought it possible a few yrs ago? Looking forward to track days as well!

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Re: Seaboard Marine CMRC Wallerfield Trinidad 2015

Postby Monk BANzai » June 22nd, 2015, 4:33 pm

oh defn... when i used to do Brand Hatch Track days in the late 90's i went as part of group of 10 drivers (would be insane to do in on your own..the costs was like a week's rent in London lol)..... but some of the basics (i still see Brands Hatch web page has the rules up) covered Garage fee's and such.

fee's were equivalent to about $1,500 TT for the group for the day. That included the open pit lane if you needed to service (and enter/exit the track as you felt like...which is opposed to the closed pits where the bigger boys run hard and you really dont want to come out while they doing their thing..). Most track days had the Race academy as well where some of the BTCC guys would do classes. That was real expensive tho..... started at about $7KTT for the group of us.... or $700 per person for the day.

We aint near that stage in terms of established Garage areas and stuff... but the fee's do cover EMS and Marshall duties. That never comes free.

SR if they need real time experience in Track day expectations I am available. Its really fun once set up properly that the Novices dont share the trck on days with mroe experienced guys. Normally its regulated to Road cars Only...

Funny. Just last night i was reading that the Nürburgring lap times BANNED by circuit bosses as a bench mark on their track.... Poor Konneissegg. ...but i digress....

http://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/nurburgring-lap-times-banned-by-circuit-bosses-0621980332

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