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Postby netsket » January 29th, 2013, 5:30 pm

smells of tntmirror hope I am wrong. sauce?

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Postby toyota2nr » January 29th, 2013, 5:37 pm

Part of me wants the PP to lose the next election. I wonder if rfari, Habit7, eliteauto etc will be so eager to talk politics.

FYI Ramesh only talking because he get rejected from becoming a candidate. If he had gotten through we would not have heard him.

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 6:14 pm

netsket wrote:smells of tntmirror hope I am wrong. sauce?

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-01- ... r-another-‘reshmi’-scandal

toyota2nr wrote:Part of me wants the PP to lose the next election. I wonder if rfari, Habit7, eliteauto etc will be so eager to talk politics.

FYI Ramesh only talking because he get rejected from becoming a candidate. If he had gotten through we would not have heard him.

It doesnt matter which party is in power, i express my views. I call it as i see it

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Postby toyota2nr » January 29th, 2013, 6:37 pm

^^ we will see. I am quite sure you will have to eat your words. I call it as I see it too.

The whole long thread about the THA elections and none of you PNM lemmings will admit that the PNM started the whole race talk.

If the PP lose the next election they look for it.

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 6:45 pm

toyota2nr wrote:^^ we will see. I am quite sure you will have to eat your words. I call it as I see it too.

The whole long thread about the THA elections and none of you PNM lemmings will admit that the PNM started the whole race talk.

If the PP lose the next election they look for it.

Check the ched again and u will see my comments on this. Sandy started the race talk officially and pp / sdms nurtured it. Ah lie?

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Postby Rooki3 » January 29th, 2013, 7:01 pm

serious question




whey uml?

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Postby civic minded » January 29th, 2013, 7:10 pm

is it me or does the PP look like it is falling apart?

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Postby nemisis » January 29th, 2013, 7:20 pm

civic minded wrote:is it me or does the PP look like it is falling apart?

just you, they the same party that they were when they went in, just now the give them some time excuse of the earlies losing weight

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Postby toyota2nr » January 29th, 2013, 8:03 pm

At the end of the all of us have to live here. It's up to us to decide what kind of country we want regardless of the nonsense the PNM has done.

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 9:03 pm

Rooki3 wrote:serious question




whey uml?

Dan. I fraid to find out yes. I just hope he eh hit de woman.

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 9:16 pm

toyota2nr wrote:At the end of the all of us have to live here. It's up to us to decide what kind of country we want regardless of the nonsense the PNM has done.

The difference between pnm and pp is that pnm's major shortcomings that resulted in its 2010 defeat were due mainly to manning whereas with the pp, mostly the senior members of the party have played a part in bringing the partnership into disrepute. How can this be remedied?

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Postby shogun » January 29th, 2013, 9:57 pm

rfari wrote:
Rooki3 wrote:serious question




whey uml?

Dan. I fraid to find out yes. I just hope he eh hit de woman.


:lol:

Poor fella. I know he hurtin'

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Postby nemisis » January 29th, 2013, 10:16 pm

He pigeon point relaxing

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Postby toyota2nr » January 29th, 2013, 10:51 pm

rfari wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:At the end of the all of us have to live here. It's up to us to decide what kind of country we want regardless of the nonsense the PNM has done.

The difference between pnm and pp is that pnm's major shortcomings that resulted in its 2010 defeat were due mainly to manning whereas with the pp, mostly the senior members of the party have played a part in bringing the partnership into disrepute. How can this be remedied?


New cabinet ?

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 10:59 pm

Yup (although this isn't feasible). Or its members have to hope that all allegations against them are dropped before the general elections

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Postby pioneer » January 29th, 2013, 11:05 pm

Hmmm so Warner son arrested with undeclared cash in the US, that's a pretty big deal for them (the US)

Cash was for?...

Then we looking to buy patrol boats from....*drum roll*...Colombia...the world's #1 supplier of 90% cocaine....

How come all of a sudden we cutting deals with Colombia?...boats?...loaded with what?

Why govt after govt try so hard to cover up the fact that most boats/vessels intercepted with drugs in europe and north american originate from trinidad?

Colombians have them by the nuts that's why. It's also why people so desperately seek to get into government/politics/army/police...the big pay out comes from the drug runners...not some chitty govt salary.

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 11:11 pm

I hear that warner son talk again today. Like it bubbling just under the surface waiting to erupt. If its true, jw seems laid back about it

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Postby kurpal_v2 » January 29th, 2013, 11:28 pm

Rooki3 wrote:serious question




whey uml?



He and rbf have government contract Dan, them boys plate full with food, tuner is pleb thing since pp see office.

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 11:30 pm

Nah man. He for real?

Coup prober lists Sir Ellis as reference
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Anika Gumbs-Sandiford



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Dr Hafizool Mohammed

A cloud now hangs over the credibility of the commission of enquiry into the 1990 coup attempt, whose latest hearings are set to begin this morning. Among the commissioners expected to sit at the 14th session of the enquiry at the Caribbean Court of Justice, Port-of-Spain, is Dr Hafizool Mohammed.



Last week he admitted to the Sunday Guardian he obtained his doctorate of science (DSc) in international relations from Atlantic International University (AIU), which is described by various Web sites as a diploma mill. He said he knew it was not accredited by US educational institutions.



The commissioners were expected to met at the Hilton Trinidad yesterday evening to discuss the matter. Now further investigations by the T&T Guardian have unearthed more discrepancies in his curriculum vitae (CV). Mohammed claims to have a degree from a prestigious military university in the US, which has never heard of him.



Among the referees he lists on his CV are a dead president of T&T and a non-existent president of Turkey. When the T&T Guardian contacted Mohammed for comment yesterday, he hung up the phone. Mohammed, originally from Dow Village, California, now lives in the US and has US citizenship. He is staying at the Hilton Trinidad.



Who exactly is Mohammed? No one seems to know. Yet a senior member of Cabinet insisted he should be selected as a member of the commission of enquiry into the 1990 coup attempt, which began sitting two years ago. T&T’s first President Sir Ellis Clarke is among the names given as additional references on Mohammed’s CV, even though Sir Ellis died in December 2010 and is listed as deceased.



Clarke’s son, Peter, a director of Guardian Media Ltd, yesterday expressed surprise over his father’s inclusion, saying: “It is shocking someone would use a deceased person as reference.” A cloud now hangs over the credibility of the commission of enquiry into the 1990 coup attempt, whose latest hearings are set to begin this morning.





Among the commissioners expected to sit at the 14th session of the enquiry at the Caribbean Court of Justice, Port-of-Spain, is Dr Hafizool Mohammed. Last week he admitted to the Sunday Guardian he obtained his doctorate of science (DSc) in international relations from Atlantic International University (AIU), which is described by various Web sites as a diploma mill. He said he knew it was not accredited by US educational institutions.



The commissioners were expected to met at the Hilton Trinidad yesterday evening to discuss the matter. Now further investigations by the T&T Guardian have unearthed more discrepancies in his curriculum vitae (CV). Mohammed claims to have a degree from a prestigious military university in the US, which has never heard of him. Among the referees he lists on his CV are a dead president of T&T and a non-existent president of Turkey.



When the T&T Guardian contacted Mohammed for comment yesterday, he hung up the phone. Mohammed, originally from Dow Village, California, now lives in the US and has US citizenship. He is staying at the HIlton Trinidad.
Who exactly is Mohammed? No one seems to know. Yet a senior member of Cabinet insisted he should be selected as a member of the commission of enquiry into the 1990 coup attempt, which began sitting two years ago.





Mohammed’s referees

T&T’s first President Sir Ellis Clarke is among the names given as additional references on Mohammed’s CV, even though Sir Ellis died in December 2010 and is listed as deceased. Clarke’s son, Peter, a director of Guardian Media Ltd, yesterday expressed surprise over his father’s inclusion, saying: “It is shocking someone would use a deceased person as reference.”



As for Ahmet Haluk Ozbuddun, whom Mohammed also listed as deceased and named as the president of Turkey on his CV, Ozbuddun never existed. Since 1923, following the Turkish War of Independence, there have been only 11 heads of state, and the name Ozbuddun is not among them.




Nor was anyone by that name ever the assistant secretary general of the United Nations, as Mohammed claimed. His CV also lists as referees the chairman of the enquiry, Sir David Simmons, the former Chief Justice of Barbados, and its vice chairman, fellow Barbadian attorney Richard Cheltenham, QC.



Simmons, when contacted at the Hilton Trinidad yesterday, refused to comment on the latest developments. “You expect me to make a comment? I have no comment to make. Good morning and goodbye,” he said curtly. Cheltenham was expected to arrive in T&T from Barbados yesterday evening.



Several government ministers and officials also are listed on Mohammed’s CV. While mixing up the portfolios of the ministers, Mohammed listed as references Minister of Transport Chandresh Sharma, Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Dookeran and Minister of Public Utilities Nizam Baksh.



In response to a text message, Sharma said: “I was not aware. In writing from me? Guess anyone can put any name as a reference.” Baksh, however, told the T&T Guardian while he had met Mohammed on two occasions he was unaware he was used as a reference.



Dookeran, T&T Guardian learned, is presently out of the country. T&T’s Ambassador to the United States Dr Neil Parsan, who is also Sharma’s nephew, is also listed along with former Chief of Defence Staff Brig Roland Maundy. Parsan could not be reached for comment yesterday. Maundy told the T&T Guardian he had not been told he was listed as a referee on Mohammed’s CV.



“I met him once in the US but I would think if you are listing someone as a reference you will call. I am glad I got this telephone call,” Maundy said. Not known here The American Military University, where Mohammed claimed in 2011 to have earned a master’s degree in national security studies as a distinguished graduate, has no record of him.



Contacted yesterday to confirm whether Mohammed graduated from the university in 2011, associate registrar Yvette Porter said: “We do not have any such student with that name in our database.” Porter said the other reasons a student’s name might not be listed in the database were changes due to marriage or divorce or misspelling on legal documents.



She added: “We do this all the time. I do about ten searches for the day. Unfortunately, students say they attended the school and they have not. “Based on the information provided, that name, that spelling — that student did not come here.”



Asked how it was possible that Mohammed’s name was not listed as a graduate, Porter said: “The only reason it would not be in our database is if he was not a student here or he provided a different name.”





Insisting the database gives a thorough record of all past and present students enrolled at the university, Porter added: “I do not know how to say it any differently. No one with that name has ever been a student at this school. No one with the spelling of that name has been a student of this school, ever.”





Most scandalous ever

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley described the latest development as a “travesty.” He added: “The appointment is in the same vein as former director of the Strategic Services Agency Reshmi Ramnarine. “This Government is consistently appointing people unqualified and unsuitable for positions, against the public interest.



“Who selected this man and what is the connection to the Government?” Rowley asked. Former attorney general Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj said a dead man could not be listed as a reference. “This appointment is going down as the most scandalous ever in the history of T&T.





In fact, it should go down in the Guinness Book of Records because it would be the first time a dead man could recommend someone. Maybe the Cabinet has a special connection in hell or heaven,” Maharaj said.



Senior Counsel Reginald Armour said the Sunday Guardian’s report on the appointment of Mohammed gave rise for concern. "I will be concerned further if the most recent information given, in connection with the information from the American Military University, suggests that his security credentials are now in question, given that I understand that to be an important consideration in his selection to be a tribunal member," Armour said.

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Postby pioneer » January 29th, 2013, 11:47 pm

rfari wrote:I hear that warner son talk again today. Like it bubbling just under the surface waiting to erupt. If its true, jw seems laid back about it


He will blame the british reporter.

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Postby pioneer » January 29th, 2013, 11:48 pm

btw I expect a BIG smoke screen to be put up by the govt very soon, could be something drastic like the SOE

They have alot of chit about to hit the fan

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Postby rfari » January 29th, 2013, 11:57 pm

Carnival is a big enuff smokescreen or the timing bad?

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Postby pioneer » January 30th, 2013, 1:45 am

maybe just after carnival or before easter...something is brewing

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Postby rfari » January 31st, 2013, 8:12 am

SmokeyGTi wrote:hmm...this is interesting...

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/letters/ ... 30641.html

Puzzling slant in the president's speeches

Story Created: Jan 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM ECT

(Story Updated: Jan 31, 2013 at 12:11 AM ECT )

As a professor in the political sciences department of a New York university with my navel string buried in Trinidad, I often review the events of the political landscape of my homeland.

Recently, I conducted an assignment in my class to analyse the speeches of the Office of the President of Trinidad and Tobago. The work of my students revealed several interesting issues which I want to share with the citizens of my homeland in the hopes of finding solutions for some of these issues.

Firstly, it was revealed that the Office of the President was quasi-ceremonial in nature and that many, but not all, of the roles and functions of his office are enshrined in our Republican Constitution.

Naturally, the speeches made during the last ten years by the incumbent, President George Maxwell Richards, were analysed. For our own elucidation, being a political sciences class, we decided to analyse his speeches according to the political party in power during the time period.

For the period 2003-2010, or during the reign of the People's National Movement (PNM), the themes of His Excellency's speeches reflect a sense of objectivity that seem to be reflective and in keeping with the role and function of his office.

During the period 2010 to present, however, his speeches are heavily weighted with marked political punctuation that condemn the political party currently in office, the People's Partnership Government. Some of the excerpts from his speeches over this period, for example, include, "There is no one coming to the rescue of Trinidad and Tobago."

Most notably and topical was the speech he delivered at the swearing in of the newly elected THA.

His Excellency commented that, "The people of Tobago must be careful to preserve those characteristics which define them as a people and must brook no substitutes for them."

He also said that "The recent Tobago House of Assembly elections have demonstrated that democracy is serving this country well. ...

"I offer congratulations to all those who have been chosen by the people to lead Tobago into the future. This is a historic moment and it is always important that we learn the lessons of history."

He added that while the task was daunting, it was not impossible.

He ended with "carpe diem," which means "seize the day". Seize the day of what exactly? The fact that there is no opposition to the PNM?

My class and I have been having extreme difficulty in comprehending the slant of speeches delivered by His Excellency from 2010 to present day. Most notably, the speech delivered at the swearing in of the newly elected THA with blatant political underpinnings.

I was of the view that as president, he should be more statesman-like and have a reconciliatory rather than celebratory tone. He should not allow himself to be used as a political tool by the PNM party. He showed his true colours as a political PNM pawn when he in effect said that the Partnership Government ignored and neglected Tobago that is why they lost the election.

How do I explain this recurring theme of obvious political bias by an incumbent president that is supposed to exude objectivity?

Prof David Horsham

Brooklyn, New York

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Postby hydroep » January 31st, 2013, 8:21 am

LOL...a little more again and yuh woulda hear Max talkin' 'bout "Moral and Spiritual values"...:lol:

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Postby 16 cycles » January 31st, 2013, 8:38 am

rfari wrote:The difference between pnm and pp is that pnm's major shortcomings that resulted in its 2010 defeat were due mainly to manning whereas with the pp, mostly the senior members of the party have played a part in bringing the partnership into disrepute. How can this be remedied?


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Ano ... 40489.html

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Nan ... 75069.html


everybody have their hands in the treasury.......P/P/NM

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Postby rfari » January 31st, 2013, 9:06 am

16 cycles wrote:
rfari wrote:The difference between pnm and pp is that pnm's major shortcomings that resulted in its 2010 defeat were due mainly to manning whereas with the pp, mostly the senior members of the party have played a part in bringing the partnership into disrepute. How can this be remedied?


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Ano ... 40489.html

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Nan ... 75069.html


everybody have their hands in the treasury.......P/P/NM

True. There's racket on both sides but as i said its mostly the senior members of the pp

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Postby toyota2nr » January 31st, 2013, 11:15 am

rfari wrote:
16 cycles wrote:
rfari wrote:The difference between pnm and pp is that pnm's major shortcomings that resulted in its 2010 defeat were due mainly to manning whereas with the pp, mostly the senior members of the party have played a part in bringing the partnership into disrepute. How can this be remedied?


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Ano ... 40489.html

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Nan ... 75069.html


everybody have their hands in the treasury.......P/P/NM

True. There's racket on both sides but as i said its mostly the senior members of the pp


Of course that is the spin you would put on it. Defense of the PNM cult is of paramount importance.

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Postby 5onDfloor » January 31st, 2013, 11:28 am

The questions is, where is UML?

the man cant show his self or is it he is now posting under a shadow account?

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