Do you support Gay Marriage in Trinidad & Tobago?

[Peanut Punch]

I don't mind if they get their marriage law, but 'Rights' laws are a whirlwind thing & if this gets passed more & more laws will get passed in their favour. Rights laws are supposed to be a positive thing but in many cases it is used unjustly.

Imagine if gov't approves a bill ensuring equal rights in the workplace for gay men, lesbians, and bisexuals, on-top of the existing law for 'everyone' on equality & discrimination in the workplace.... they automatically get an extra law to back them up, in any given situation... eg. if HR gives them a bad appraisal the said company/person can easily get backed into a corner for Discrimination' ... where's the equality there when they will inadvertently have more weight & power to throw around more then the average person ... 'Rights' laws are messy, kids can call the police for parents easily & claim abuse... I've had a friend in the UK get dragged out of his home because his wife put a restraining order on him because after an argument he broke some vases out of anger ... now he's renting & can't see his kids ... These laws help but people just seem to abuse them at the drop of a hat! The thing is the law is either black or white no shades of grey & sometimes bias.

[pranah]

I love my goat (withholding the name I have given her). Of course I have kept that a secret because no one would understand and they would class what I consider love as " deviant behaviour" . I hope in a few years I can get support to lobby the authorities to allow me consummate my relationship with my love and remove the stigma of alternate sexual preference. I cant have kids with her but neither can two men have kids. I hope to have the support of the gay community on this as they know all to well about being discriminated against for a sexual preference that is not the norm.

1support for gay marriage.

[hydroep]

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[Humes]

I love my goat (withholding the name I have given her). Of course I have kept that a secret because no one would understand and they would class what I consider love as " deviant behaviour" . I hope in a few years I can get support to lobby the authorities to allow me consummate my relationship with my love and remove the stigma of alternate sexual preference. I cant have kids with her but neither can two men have kids. I hope to have the support of the gay community on this as they know all to well about being discriminated against for a sexual preference that is not the norm.

1support for gay marriage.

You're an absolute idiot if you doh see any difference between two consenting adults, and a man and an animal.

Same level of idiocy that makes some compare two consenting adults, and a man and a child.

[shogun]

I love my goat (withholding the name I have given her). Of course I have kept that a secret because no one would understand and they would class what I consider love as " deviant behaviour" . I hope in a few years I can get support to lobby the authorities to allow me consummate my relationship with my love and remove the stigma of alternate sexual preference. I cant have kids with her but neither can two men have kids. I hope to have the support of the gay community on this as they know all to well about being discriminated against for a sexual preference that is not the norm.

1support for gay marriage.

Well done pranah. Fine choice indeed, sir. I would totally support and lobby, for your desire to finally consummate your relationship with said hollow-horned ruminant of the genus Capra, as people with logic like yours, should NEVER be given the CHANCE to procreate with another human being....EVER.

Congratulations and best regards.

[pranah]

Hmmm. That seems harsh coming from a gay rights supporter but I understand just the thought of man an animal can disgust you an cause that reaction . Consenting or not , the issue for some people is the sexual acts between gays. It just doesnt seem natural. Just as consenting sex between brother and sister or daughter and father (dont argue this does not happen). So just as we can cast harsh judgement on me for my preference it would be understandable why some folks are not open to the idea of a gay marriage because we know two men not holding hands when the night comes. The gays have fought this battle for centuries . I have a new cause you should be more tolerant in my plight. Making me feel like a troll. I mean no disrespect to any homosexuals in this thread.

[pan3660]

I love my goat (withholding the name I have given her). Of course I have kept that a secret because no one would understand and they would class what I consider love as " deviant behaviour" . I hope in a few years I can get support to lobby the authorities to allow me consummate my relationship with my love and remove the stigma of alternate sexual preference. I cant have kids with her but neither can two men have kids. I hope to have the support of the gay community on this as they know all to well about being discriminated against for a sexual preference that is not the norm.

1support for gay marriage.

I like your contribution dey! I never thought of things like these, because in the beginning, we were never created for that kind of behavior. Males were created for females and vice versa and marriage was for procreation and raising a family.

[rollingstock]

So why men hadda use an alternate account? Afraid to post using their 'known' account?

[nemisis]

So why men hadda use an alternate account? Afraid to post using their 'known' account?

Call names, point fingers

[*$kїđž!™]

this is not appropriate for our small island.....first sperm banks and now this.....

the end is really near.......

[hydroep]

I love my goat (withholding the name I have given her). Of course I have kept that a secret because no one would understand and they would class what I consider love as " deviant behaviour" . I hope in a few years I can get support to lobby the authorities to allow me consummate my relationship with my love and remove the stigma of alternate sexual preference. I cant have kids with her but neither can two men have kids. I hope to have the support of the gay community on this as they know all to well about being discriminated against for a sexual preference that is not the norm.

1support for gay marriage.

You're an absolute idiot if you doh see any difference between two consenting adults, and a man and an animal.

Same level of idiocy that makes some compare two consenting adults, and a man and a child.

There's some logic to this argument. So let's compare like with like.

Is incest among a father and his adult daughter or a mother and her adult son "O.K." once they're consenting adults?

[Sky]

So errr...
You're saying that if we don't legalize gay marriage then gay people would get married to the opposite sex and have kids?

No, I am saying that countries which legalize and legitimize same-sex relationships have a correlating drop in birth rate.

The US states there are sixteen states which offer at least some recognition or benefits to same-sex relationships.Twelve of these sixteen states rank in the bottom twenty states in birth rate.
Currently there are ten countries which permit samesex “marriage.” Six of these ten fall well within the bottom quarter in both birth rates and fertility rates among 223 countries and territories. All ten fall below the total world fertility rate, while only South Africa has a birth rate that is higher (barely) than the world rate.

This says nothing. it's numbers thrown together to tell a story.
Many other factors contribute to something such as birth rates.
C'mon man, you didn't even say when the rates started declining vs the change in laws.

Aye Sky! It's better to be sure of what one is about than confused like you.

Confused you say? I'm actually part of the Majority. Not willing to support them, but not against it. Let them do what they want, doesn't bother me. And what I'm about has nothing to do with anything gay. What I am against though, is people thinking they have the right to tell other people how to live. Who appointed them higher.

And you, going to the extreme (goat) to attempt a point? Are you an idiot or a troll? I hope it's troll.

[sweetiepaper]

I love my goat (withholding the name I have given her). Of course I have kept that a secret because no one would understand and they would class what I consider love as " deviant behaviour" . I hope in a few years I can get support to lobby the authorities to allow me consummate my relationship with my love and remove the stigma of alternate sexual preference. I cant have kids with her but neither can two men have kids. I hope to have the support of the gay community on this as they know all to well about being discriminated against for a sexual preference that is not the norm.

1support for gay marriage.

You're an absolute idiot if you doh see any difference between two consenting adults, and a man and an animal.

Same level of idiocy that makes some compare two consenting adults, and a man and a child.

Why is he an idiot Humes? He isn't hurting anyone with his decision so his actions couldn't possibly be wrong. Right?
Why is he an idiot for something he was born with and cannot control?

[whyteliver]

Hmmm. That seems harsh coming from a gay rights supporter but I understand just the thought of man an animal can disgust you an cause that reaction . Consenting or not , the issue for some people is the sexual acts between gays. It just doesnt seem natural. Just as consenting sex between brother and sister or daughter and father (dont argue this does not happen). So just as we can cast harsh judgement on me for my preference it would be understandable why some folks are not open to the idea of a gay marriage because we know two men not holding hands when the night comes. The gays have fought this battle for centuries . I have a new cause you should be more tolerant in my plight. Making me feel like a troll. I mean no disrespect to any homosexuals in this thread.

.......batti man an their supporters hav no reply.....d man raise a valid point......ah eh hearing allyuh.

[pranah]

I also have a question- so religion must be left out right, why is it gays are fighting down marriage which is a purely religious thing whose dogma they dont buy into. If it wasnt against most religious beliefs people would be beating out ting and living happily ever after. Why fight down marriage ? why not just cohabit like the rest of the heathen heteros??

[maj. tom]

animals and goats are not consenting partners. if your goat talks to you and consents to have sex with you, you got bigger problems than you can imagine.

the main reason why incest is wrong is because of the genetic products resulting. It is wrong in almost all nations because of this, but in the past it was accepted in keeping royalty blood "pure."
There is complex psychology of the relationship between family members and it has been explored since the 19th century, one well-known example is the Oedipus complex and the Electra complex.
In the past before they figured out that incest led to bad genetic it was accepted, and it is recorded infamously a lot in the bible.

[ismithx]

so nobody ent realize the man was using his might powerz of sarcasm on us? noobs...

[UML]

animals and goats are not consenting partners. if your goat talks to you and consents to have sex with you, you got bigger problems than you can imagine.

the main reason why incest is wrong is because of the genetic products resulting. It is wrong in almost all nations because of this, but in the past it was accepted in keeping royalty blood "pure."
There is complex psychology of the relationship between family members and it has been explored since the 19th century, one well-known example is the Oedipus complex and the Electra complex.
In the past before they figured out that incest led to bad genetic it was accepted, and it is recorded infamously a lot in the bible.

so u saying incest is bad because of the genetics of a child....so if they dont have children it is right?

gays dont have children...is it right?



incest is morally wrong....just like homosexuality...its not natural...unless u living in the matrix and we wrong and u right and incest right and bestiality right too

[whyteliver]

man want to marry man,woman want to marry woman and i cant have have more than one wife....has the world gone mad.

[maj. tom]

^ in addition to the psychology and genetics of relationships i mentioned above, incest was discovered to be unacceptable also because of the effect it has on the family. a man having sex with someone else other than family does not complicate or destroy the family unit.

Those terms Oedipus and Electra were chosen because of its place in greek mythology, which shows that a long time ago civilizations tried to explain the same behaviour they observed that we are displaying today without the science.

[Sky]

so u saying incest is bad because of the genetics of a child....so if they dont have children it is right?

gays dont have children...is it right?



incest is morally wrong....just like homosexuality...its not natural...unless u living in the matrix and we wrong and u right and incest right and bestiality right too

No it isn't natural. Tab A goes into slot A, not slot B.
Don't compare a retarded child to an adopted/test tube child of gay parents, wtf

About your post earlier. This may be the only reason behind being against it at all.
Explaining to your kids what's goin on there. Because relationships are mostly adult content, and kids are usually sheltered from that. When they see gays, they'll question the unnatural, and you may have to chip away at their innocence to explain.
But this trains your kid to be more open minded. And honestly, I think that's what people are really afraid of. If it doesn't stop here, where will it.

[Ronaldo95163]

You've gotta be gay if you hang out with gay people....
you in the closet brah?

With that logic is it safe to say that you hang out with Klan members?

Where would you ever get such a ridiculous idea???

[maj. tom]

You've gotta be gay if you hang out with gay people....
you in the closet brah?

With that logic is it safe to say that you hang out with Klan members?

Where would you ever get such a ridiculous idea???

If you can't understand that A=B and B=C, therefore A=C logic, then you may have injured your left cerebral hemisphere in the past or it wasn't formed properly at birth or something so.

[wagonrunner]

No. I don't support.
Firstly, ALL marriage is wrong

[Ronaldo95163]

You've gotta be gay if you hang out with gay people....
you in the closet brah?

With that logic is it safe to say that you hang out with Klan members?

Where would you ever get such a ridiculous idea???

If you can't understand that A=B and B=C, therefore A=C logic, then you may have injured your left cerebral hemisphere in the past or it wasn't formed properly at birth or something so.

All dah for me bai?

[maj. tom]

^ yes, all that for you. I realise you're very special.

[nismoid]

Wow!! looking at the responses of most of the people here, it seems that alot of you people are very insecure about your masculinity lol.
How many of you buy things that are made by gay people?
Alot of you eat food that is prepared by gay people and lick your lips and say its delicious and pay big money for it lmao.
I saw someone here saying that marriage is for pro-creation, unfortunately its not, marriage in the eyes of religion is for pro creation but as we all know religion was written by man so its always biased. Marriage in reality (not religion) is usually the course taken when 2 people want to spend their life together as companions for a number of reasons see here :- http://marriage.about.com/cs/engagement/qt/reasons.htm
Now i saw another person saying something about gay people cant pro-create so there won't be enough people to fund retirees in the future, well if you look at it closely you will notice that the people that have 5 and 6 children are the ones that are on the extreme lower income scale of the population, generally it has been proven that those people are the burden on the finance of the country, the children usually dont know who their fathers are and as such have no (positive) role models, these children usually dont contribute to the NIB nor the BIR but when they reach the pensionable age, they are the ones waiting on handouts from the country via the old age pension.
Trust me, these people aint funding anybodys retirement, not even their own. Unfortunately these people are in greater numbers now as opposed to 30 years ago.

In developed countries you will notice alot of gay people publicly holding hands and not being frowned upon but on a little forum like this one the thought of "gay marriage" sparks all kinds of negativity toward another human being who happens to be different, and those said people are putting religion and children into the fray. Open your eyes, your children will never be immune to gays, they will see it and they will interact with gay people with or without your consent or knowledge .
So dont hide your masculine insecurity behind your children or your religion, gay isn't contagious

[Cobalt60]

Vote yes & no.....but if no please state the reason.

Please do not use religion as an argument.

lol, READ: explain yourself if you don't believe what I believe. If you believe what I believe no further explanation is necessary.

[toybago]

Now check this......as soon as a man talk against gays in any manner (including the "bun chi chi man mantra") instantly you're attacked and your manhood questioned and you're even accused of being a closet homo....so who trying to force who? and quaint terms being coined like "homophobic" etc. also i read where someone said that incest was accepted in old days, wrong eh!!!! it was accepted by those who practiced it(royals), cause they thought they were special and frowned on by commoners (sounds kinda familiar right?). at the end of the day you think the average citizen has any say in this? it's just two more sides the politicians can play against each other.....

[pan3660]

Wow!! looking at the responses of most of the people here, it seems that alot of you people are very insecure about your masculinity lol.
How many of you buy things that are made by gay people?
Alot of you eat food that is prepared by gay people and lick your lips and say its delicious and pay big money for it lmao.
I saw someone here saying that marriage is for pro-creation, unfortunately its not, marriage in the eyes of religion is for pro creation but as we all know religion was written by man so its always biased. Marriage in reality (not religion) is usually the course taken when 2 people want to spend their life together as companions for a number of reasons see here :- http://marriage.about.com/cs/engagement/qt/reasons.htm
Now i saw another person saying something about gay people cant pro-create so there won't be enough people to fund retirees in the future, well if you look at it closely you will notice that the people that have 5 and 6 children are the ones that are on the extreme lower income scale of the population, generally it has been proven that those people are the burden on the finance of the country, the children usually dont know who their fathers are and as such have no (positive) role models, these children usually dont contribute to the NIB nor the BIR but when they reach the pensionable age, they are the ones waiting on handouts from the country via the old age pension.
Trust me, these people aint funding anybodys retirement, not even their own. Unfortunately these people are in greater numbers now as opposed to 30 years ago.

In developed countries you will notice alot of gay people publicly holding hands and not being frowned upon but on a little forum like this one the thought of "gay marriage" sparks all kinds of negativity toward another human being who happens to be different, and those said people are putting religion and children into the fray. Open your eyes, your children will never be immune to gays, they will see it and they will interact with gay people with or without your consent or knowledge .
So dont hide your masculine insecurity behind your children or your religion, gay isn't contagious

All dat said for nuttin. Yuh miss d ball like a lot a people. Do you support Gay Marriage in Trinidad & Tobago? Yes, or no and why?