Caribbean Airline aircraft crashes in Guyana!

[JJ16]

Was going from JFK, stopped off in Trini, then crash landed in Guyana. Bad weather conditions attributed to the crash as claimed.

http://jyoticommunication.blogspot.com/ ... l?spref=fb

hmm i highly doubt it was that

Metars:
SYCJ 300700Z 00000KT 9000 BKN015 24/24 Q1008 NOSIG
SYCJ 300600Z 00000KT 9000 BKN015 24/24 Q1008 NOSIG
SYCJ 300500Z 00000KT 9000 -SHRA FEW014CB BKN015 25/24 Q1009 CB-NE-ENE NOSIG
SYCJ 300423Z 00000KT 9999 TS FEW015CB SCT016 CB-NE-ENE NOSIG
SYCJ 300400Z 00000KT 9999 FEW016 24/24 Q1009 NOSIG
SYCJ 300300Z 00000KT 9999 FEW016 25/24 Q1010 NOSIG
SYCJ 300200Z 00000KT 9999 FEW017 SCT300 25/24 Q1010 NOSIG
SYCJ 300100Z 00000KT 9999 FEW017 SCT300 25/24 Q1010 NOSIG

...i don't see any bad weather here.....

please translate to english

lol sorry doh beat meh

Taking the first line:
SYCJ 300700Z 00000KT 9000 BKN015 24/24 Q1008 NOSIG

SYCJ - Airport code
300700Z - 30 of the month, (so 2AM local time)
00000KT - Winds calm - (hinting at pilot error)
9000 - Visibility 9KM
BKN015 - Broken clouds at 1500 ft
24/24 - Temperature 24C/Dewpoint 24C
Q1008 - Atmospheric Pressure 1006 Millibars
NOSIG - No significant weather changes in the next few hours


anyone could feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here...

[zcarz]

^their prices to Guyana are ridiculous to be fair, however i do believe that runway is too short and it should be lengthened to 9000 feet (which they can very well do, since there is a lot of space both before and after the runway, save for a large drop after the runway which can be built up to height if need be), however, i have no idea why everytime i fly there on CAL they always land halfway down the runway, the circa 8000ft length of the runway is more than enough to handle the 737's

[jehusaunders]

well i think what happen was either two things
1- pilot forgot to extend flaps to proper angle
or 2- when pilot realised "AYYY this plan cyah stop... "he retract the flaps to try to take back off and to try to try to land again later

[ismithx]

and i see our good ol' Aunty Kamla nosing around TOUCHIN up de crashed plane with a bunch of her henchmen, whatever happened to preserving the scene and not tampering with evidence??????

[DFC]

Those people were definately saved by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
All praise be unto Him.

[Habit7]

well i think what happen was either two things
1- pilot forgot to extend flaps to proper angle
or 2- when pilot realised "AYYY this plan cyah stop... "he retract the flaps to try to take back off and to try to try to land again later

1- from what we see the flaps wasn't extended at all, however the GPWS would be screaming "FLAPS"
2-In at attempt to retract the flaps from 40 to 5 in a rejected take off, he could have reduce it to 0, oops

[jehusaunders]

ummm maybe the gpws was yelling "what the hell... he mustb know what he doing".
and i meant proper angle as in extending it. not any specific degree. and mayb it was reduced to zero... the pilot could have been in two minds

[bluefete]

Those people were definately saved by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
All praise be unto Him.

Created to mock God.

[DFC]

Those people were definately saved by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
All praise be unto Him.

Created to mock God.

May the FSM touch you with his noodly appendage.
R'amen.

[NorStar2K]

well i think what happen was either two things
1- pilot forgot to extend flaps to proper angle
or 2- when pilot realised "AYYY this plan cyah stop... "he retract the flaps to try to take back off and to try to try to land again later

1- from what we see the flaps wasn't extended at all, however the GPWS would be screaming "FLAPS"
2-In at attempt to retract the flaps from 40 to 5 in a rejected take off, he could have reduce it to 0, oops

So far everything seems to be pointing to these possibilities + Wx conditions at the airfield.

[S_2NR]

Those people were definately saved by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
All praise be unto Him.

Created to mock God.

May the FSM touch you with his noodly appendage.
R'amen.

[zcarz]

Can anyone explain what's kamala & her band of merrymen purpose in guyana?...did some national disaster take place?

Yes CA is ours, but what exactly SHE went to do?....she certainly can't fix the plane or tell us why it happened...did she pay for the flight out of her own pocket?

Exactly how this benefits the people of T&T?

quite a few of the passengers were trini

[S_2NR]

Can anyone explain what's kamala & her band of merrymen purpose in guyana?...did some national disaster take place?

Yes CA is ours, but what exactly SHE went to do?....she certainly can't fix the plane or tell us why it happened...did she pay for the flight out of her own pocket?

Exactly how this benefits the people of T&T?

quite a few of the passengers were trini

and?

[zcarz]

she probably had nothing to do that day.. very good excuse to hop on a plane if you ask me

[S_2NR]

kamla is a WOFT

[NorStar2K]

And why exactly each passenger getting $500USD?

All aircraft accident sites are treated as a crime scene until the investigators determine otherwise. Just like the aircraft itself, all cargo and luggage are also suspect.

That said, passengers won't get their luggage back immediately, until screened and re-screened. So without any personal effects......................

[equipped2ripp]

kamla is a danraj

[S_2NR]

E2R..

[Jack the Ripper]

[bluefete]

Does anyone have a of picture of the ravine in front of the aircraft?

[Jack the Ripper]

well i think what happen was either two things
1- pilot forgot to extend flaps to proper angle
or 2- when pilot realised "AYYY this plan cyah stop... "he retract the flaps to try to take back off and to try to try to land again later

1- from what we see the flaps wasn't extended at all, however the GPWS would be screaming "FLAPS"
2-In at attempt to retract the flaps from 40 to 5 in a rejected take off, he could have reduce it to 0, oops

ROFL @ ''AYYY this plan cyah stop...''

However, does anyone know how long it takes to retract from 40 to 0 (or 5) It takes about 2 minutes to EXTEND from 0 to 15...Looking at the flap lever it looks like it'd be easy to go from 40 to 0 in a hurry (or by mistake), you'd have to shift the lever to the right, get the pin out of the notch, shift the lever forward to the desired setting and then shift to the left to engage the pin back into the groove...



I can't really imagine an experienced flight crew making this mistake but I guess on a wet runway at night and you're running out of runway it would be possible.

That being said, if they did reject the landing and tried to go around, why do the pics show both engines still in reverse thrust positions?

Thank God no lives were lost and strangely enough, Capt Dean flew me to JFK just a couple days before...

[Jack the Ripper]

Does anyone have a of picture of the ravine in front of the aircraft?

Still can't see any ravine...

[Stephon.]

Good thing no one died, we need maids.

[Ignorant Ignis]

Still can't see any ravine...

it's a cliff..... and u can see where it goes down hill in this picture.....

if the plane went over the cliff everyone would have died

[r3iXmann]

good thing that didnt happen in barbados

[jehusaunders]

i agree with Jack the Ripper. but careful examination of the picture also reveals that the left spoilers and right spoilers on the wing were activated. so it looks more strange to me. to slow down the plane, we see the reverse thrusters activated and the spoilers, yet... the major mechanism to slow down and control the plane; the flaps, are not extended... :O

[Habit7]

good thing that didnt happen in barbados

CAL most dangerous destinations are SYCJ, MKJP and TNCM

Like most airports in the region the US Army built SYCJ, however they built it on a hill with a drop after both thresholds. You would think they would have built something in a better location given Guyana's size. In GT they are refurbishing an airport that would be able to handle props like the ATR's.

[S_2NR]

you can say that again

[r3iXmann]

MKJP

how so? the only issue i can see there is if the plane falls short of the runway

[A172]

even pilots geein dem