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rfari wrote:pyung99 wrote:again, this is a matter with 2 sides to the story. there can be arguments both for and against.
but to me, our coast guards was gonna let ting wash up on d shore normal anyway. some cah even wrap up flag properly. just like the police service.
in dire need of reprogramming
Dan. Coastguardsmen were trained overseas and worked side by side with the manufacturer. Not so?
And from what i understand, that 1+billion is just legals fees. It is alleged. Wait for it...
dougla_boy wrote:rfari wrote:pyung99 wrote:again, this is a matter with 2 sides to the story. there can be arguments both for and against.
but to me, our coast guards was gonna let ting wash up on d shore normal anyway. some cah even wrap up flag properly. just like the police service.
in dire need of reprogramming
Dan. Coastguardsmen were trained overseas and worked side by side with the manufacturer. Not so?
And from what i understand, that 1+billion is just legals fees. It is alleged. Wait for it...
AH HEAR them coast guard men still up there receiving salary like normal doing nothing, they get stick there when the cancel the OPV's
A week ago, members of Venezuela’s Guardia Nacional boarded a Petrotrin oil rig to determine whether it was illegally operating in the Venezuelan oil zone. It turned out that Rig 110 in Petrotrin's offshore Soldado Field was operating well within T&T’s boundaries in the Trinmar acreage. However, it was only after Petrotrin personnel provided the necessary geographical co-ordinates, which confirmed the rig was operating lawfully in T&T’s territorial waters, that the Venezuelans left.
This incident raises worrying questions about the state of T&T's maritime boundaries, given this country’s location just off the coast of South America and the many complex physical, political and social issues involving its territorial waters. How did the Venezuelan vessel slip so easily in and out of T&T’s waters without being detected and challenged by local maritime patrols?
There is a long history of problems between T&T and Venezuela over the narrow strip of water between the two countries and there is always potential for conflict over exploitation of cross-border petroleum reserves.
The matter of T&T’s maritime security can never be treated lightly. Litigation with Venezuela has been particularly complex and for decades, dating back to the colonial period, it has taken on various dimensions—territorial (maritime boundaries) and economic (fishing, hydrocarbons). Most of the contention has been over ownership of two tiny rocks, Patos (50 hectares) and Soldado (0.4 hectare), eight km off the southwest point of Trinidad and some 11 km from Venezuela.
Experiences dating back just a decade or two ago are reminders of how easily and quickly these matters can take a more serious turn. In the not too distant past the Guardia Nacional has violently boarded T&T fishing vessels, resulting in deaths and injuries. The sea between the two countries is a zone for heavy shipping traffic and it is all too easy for a climate of violence and insecurity to develop.
Incidents between T&T fishermen and the Guardia Nacional decreased to some degree after the signing of a series of fishing agreements between Venezuela and T&T in 1985, 1977 and 1990.
However, many of this country’s Caribbean counterparts believe the last—the controversial Maritime Delimitation Treaty—gives T&T an unfair edge in maritime boundaries and it is a source of contention, particularly with the Barbadian authorities. Nor are economic and territorial issues the only challenges over the country’s territorial waters. There is also the matter of criminal activities on the high seas, a situation that is getting worse.
Recent aerial surveys by the US Military’s Southern Command show that drug traffickers are shifting back to Caribbean sea routes in response to pressure on trafficking corridors running through the Central American isthmus.
Two illicit drug-trafficking hotspots in Venezuela are just a short run across the Gulf of Paria and Columbus Channel from Trinidad, providing relatively easy passage for cocaine, guns, ammunition, heroin, wild animals and even people to be smuggled into this country.
That is why it is important for the Kamla Persad-Bissessar administration to have in place a fully operational plan to safeguard T&T’s maritime boundaries and assets. While there has been a great deal of hullabaloo over the cancellation of the contracts for the offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) which were intended to boost maritime security measures, very little has been said about an alternative plan.
What about the long-range patrol vessels (LRPVs) which were supposed to be used in place of the OPVs? What about the maritime security plan mentioned by Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar more than a year ago at the height of the state of emergency? Is that plan, which involved proper information and communication between radar installations, Coast Guard vessels and army and police patrols, now fully operational?
After last week’s incident in the Soldado Field, these questions must be answered.
BRZ wrote:I have been boating for over 20 yrs now and have seen first hand accounts of coast guard vessels, Ramming peoples boats, lack of knowledge of what bays are where on islands such as Gasparee, Monos and Chac, i know several people who have called for coast guard in Serious emergencies, but who had to be rescued by friends,
My family has been at the hands of bandits DDI and called in to coast guard during the robbery, coast guard failed to show up even though they were Almost Opposite to the bay.
Local coast guards have failed similarly as police officers have on land.
rfari wrote:BRZ wrote:I have been boating for over 20 yrs now and have seen first hand accounts of coast guard vessels, Ramming peoples boats, lack of knowledge of what bays are where on islands such as Gasparee, Monos and Chac, i know several people who have called for coast guard in Serious emergencies, but who had to be rescued by friends,
My family has been at the hands of bandits DDI and called in to coast guard during the robbery, coast guard failed to show up even though they were Almost Opposite to the bay.
Local coast guards have failed similarly as police officers have on land.
Right right. So disband the ttcg. Dem eh need watercraft cuz dey duncey. Right?
teems1 wrote:rfari wrote:BRZ wrote:I have been boating for over 20 yrs now and have seen first hand accounts of coast guard vessels, Ramming peoples boats, lack of knowledge of what bays are where on islands such as Gasparee, Monos and Chac, i know several people who have called for coast guard in Serious emergencies, but who had to be rescued by friends,
My family has been at the hands of bandits DDI and called in to coast guard during the robbery, coast guard failed to show up even though they were Almost Opposite to the bay.
Local coast guards have failed similarly as police officers have on land.
Right right. So disband the ttcg. Dem eh need watercraft cuz dey duncey. Right?
Where did he say to disband it.
He pointed out the fact that during his dealings with them, they were inept and incompetent.
rfari wrote:teems1 wrote:rfari wrote:BRZ wrote:I have been boating for over 20 yrs now and have seen first hand accounts of coast guard vessels, Ramming peoples boats, lack of knowledge of what bays are where on islands such as Gasparee, Monos and Chac, i know several people who have called for coast guard in Serious emergencies, but who had to be rescued by friends,
My family has been at the hands of bandits DDI and called in to coast guard during the robbery, coast guard failed to show up even though they were Almost Opposite to the bay.
Local coast guards have failed similarly as police officers have on land.
Right right. So disband the ttcg. Dem eh need watercraft cuz dey duncey. Right?
Where did he say to disband it.
He pointed out the fact that during his dealings with them, they were inept and incompetent.
Where did i say that he said to disband it? Follow the ched then come back to me son
rfari wrote:He discounted the benefits of opvs due to lack of professionalism by coastguardsmen altho it was brought to his attention that they received training overseas related to the operation of these vessels.
So in essences what he is saying is that ttcg is a waste. No amount of training can save them. If they cant manage their small fleet, no way they can manage bigger crafts. Not even if they are trained they stull stupid.
So with that in mind ent is to disband dem?
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BAE Systems on Wednesday reached a settlement in its long-running dispute with Trinidad and Tobago over a cancelled offshore patrol boat order.
The settlement brings to a conclusion a disagreement that arose when Trinidad cancelled an order for the three boats following cost overruns and delays. The decision in 2010 came so late in the development phase of the contract that one of the three boats was ready to be delivered, prompting BAE to take a £100m charge.
Last year BAE was able to sell the boats to Brazil, tapping a new, lucrative naval market in a country looking to expand its defence presence, especially on its oil-rich coast line.
Even so, the settlement will come as a relief to BAE, which has been under pressure from investors since its planned tie-up with EADS was scuppered by political wrangling.
BAE said the settlement was “at an amount consistent with provisions held”.
Robert Stallard, analyst at RBC, said the deal should be seen as a positive development because it reduced the company’s political risk. He noted that by 2012 BAE had received about £130m as a working capital inflow from Brazil and had carried a trade liability of £125m in deferred income relative to the settlement.
“Today’s settlement is likely to be for £125m-£130m. There should be a net nil result in the working capital for the year as we understand Brazil has already paid for the ships,” he said in a note.
In 2009 BAE bought VT Group’s naval shipbuilding business after having formed a joint venture with the group. With it, BAE inherited a contract with Trinidad and Tobago, in which the government agreed to buy three offshore patrol vessels for £155m.
The order came in 2007 as BAE was finalising the joint venture with VT, combining the Portsmouth yard with those of BAE on the Clyde in Glasgow. At the time, the UK Ministry of Defence was pushing for such consolidation ahead of the expected drop in ship building orders. Now, with that decrease having materialised, BAE is reviewing whether it should close one of its yards.
The deal with Trinidad and Tobago went sour in 2010 after a new Trinidadian government said the boats were not built to their specification. However, Trinidad agreed BAE could begin to market the vessels to other countries, which it did successfully, finding Brazil as a buyer in 2011.
rfari wrote:Dais propaganda. They make up that story because kpb is a female pm and yesterday she celebrate divali. U should geh ban!
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