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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 9383 cases, 157 deaths, 1161 active, 8065 recovered in T&T

Postby redmanjp » April 23rd, 2021, 12:50 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Back to the vene national with the brazilian variant. He was employed at an agro shop in rio claro, claimed to have attended a few parties which led to contact tracing from mayaro to central....BE CAREFUL MY TUNERS


so he was here all along? in other words did not import the variant?

either way is either someone brought it in through illegal entry or there was spread while someone on home quarantine after coming from abroad, in which case we should revert to 14 day state quarantine
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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 9383 cases, 157 deaths, 1161 active, 8065 recovered in T&T

Postby MaxPower » April 23rd, 2021, 12:50 pm

The newly appointed Minister is correct.

There is currently no evidence.

If Venezuelans are in fact bringing it, then Venezuelans and Venezuelans alone should be the only ones being tested for Covid....not so?

How are Trinis getting infected? Virtually? Spiritually? They are supposed to be adhering to all Covid protocols.

Trinis need to stop looking to blame/accuse others and GET their act together.

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Postby redmanjp » April 23rd, 2021, 12:55 pm

MaxPower wrote:The newly appointed Minister is correct.

There is currently no evidence.

If Venezuelans are in fact bringing it, then Venezuelans and Venezuelans alone should be the only ones being tested for Covid....not so?

How are Trinis getting infected? Virtually? Spiritually? They are supposed to be adhering to all Covid protocols.

Trinis need to stop looking to blame/accuse others and GET their act together.


max is very simple- the venes bringing it in and spreading it to trinis who spread it to other trinis. if the variant is spreading then we haven't seen anything yet - might reach 300-500 per day :shock:

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Postby Habit7 » April 23rd, 2021, 1:05 pm

If we have closed borders, it has to be somebody crossing the border legally or illegally to bring a Brazilian variant. Hinds cannot say there is no evidence therefore don't blame the Venezuelans.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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Postby Dohplaydat » April 23rd, 2021, 1:15 pm

Habit7 wrote:If we have closed borders, it has to be somebody crossing the border legally or illegally to bring a Brazilian variant. Hinds cannot say there is no evidence therefore don't blame the Venezuelans.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.



Right 20-30k nationals and non nationals have came in legally, with negative PCR tests and 7 day mandatory quarantines with another PCR test before leaving for home quarantine.

10-20k crossed the border illegally from a country where the Brazilian variant is prevalent.

Use your head and do some reasoning nah habit.

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Postby widdyphuck » April 23rd, 2021, 1:23 pm

How do we explain that mostly trinis are becoming infected but not much Venezuelans even though we know they coming in illegally?

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Postby pugboy » April 23rd, 2021, 1:27 pm

lot of venes do not go to hospital unless necessary due to xenophobia fear

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Postby pugboy » April 23rd, 2021, 1:28 pm

lol, unless them pcr machine faulty

Dohplaydat wrote:
Habit7 wrote:If we have closed borders, it has to be somebody crossing the border legally or illegally to bring a Brazilian variant. Hinds cannot say there is no evidence therefore don't blame the Venezuelans.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.



Right 20-30k nationals and non nationals have came in legally, with negative PCR tests and 7 day mandatory quarantines with another PCR test before leaving for home quarantine.

10-20k crossed the border illegally from a country where the Brazilian variant is prevalent.

Use your head and do some reasoning nah habit.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 9383 cases, 157 deaths, 1161 active, 8065 recovered in T&T

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » April 23rd, 2021, 1:39 pm

wtf wrote:How do we explain that mostly trinis are becoming infected but not much Venezuelans even though we know they coming in illegally?


Are you forgetting this virus can give asymptomatic patients as well???

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Postby Habit7 » April 23rd, 2021, 1:48 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
Habit7 wrote:If we have closed borders, it has to be somebody crossing the border legally or illegally to bring a Brazilian variant. Hinds cannot say there is no evidence therefore don't blame the Venezuelans.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.



Right 20-30k nationals and non-nationals have came in legally, with negative PCR tests and 7 day mandatory quarantines with another PCR test before leaving for home quarantine.

10-20k crossed the border illegally from a country where the Brazilian variant is prevalent.

Use your head and do some reasoning nah habit.

Non-nationals came in with negative PCR tests, they were quarantined and flown straight to offshore platforms and infect nearly everybody on the platform.

The procedures are not foolproof. I agree quite likely it could be a Venezuelan or a Trini that interacted with a Venezuelan illegally across the border, but it very well could be ppl who were quarantined but whose viral load was too low to detect the virus during the test only to have it flare up afterwards.

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Postby Dohplaydat » April 23rd, 2021, 1:53 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
Habit7 wrote:If we have closed borders, it has to be somebody crossing the border legally or illegally to bring a Brazilian variant. Hinds cannot say there is no evidence therefore don't blame the Venezuelans.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.



Right 20-30k nationals and non-nationals have came in legally, with negative PCR tests and 7 day mandatory quarantines with another PCR test before leaving for home quarantine.

10-20k crossed the border illegally from a country where the Brazilian variant is prevalent.

Use your head and do some reasoning nah habit.

Non-nationals came in with negative PCR tests, they were quarantined and flown straight to offshore platforms and infect nearly everybody on the platform.

The procedures are not foolproof. I agree quite likely it could be a Venezuelan or a Trini that interacted with a Venezuelan illegally across the border, but it very well could be ppl who were quarantined but whose viral load was too low to detect the virus during the test only to have it flare up afterwards.


Which means that they should be doing 14 day quarantines or testing after the 14th.day.

You bad talked rapid tests before but that's why they're extremely useful, for doing quick extra checks.

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Postby widdyphuck » April 23rd, 2021, 1:59 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
wtf wrote:How do we explain that mostly trinis are becoming infected but not much Venezuelans even though we know they coming in illegally?


Are you forgetting this virus can give asymptomatic patients as well???
The majority of cases are trinis. Haven't seen any Venezuelans at all. Maybe you can enlighten us.

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Postby De Dragon » April 23rd, 2021, 2:02 pm

elec2020 wrote:
sMASH wrote:how can the prime minister, one of the best guarded people in the country, get exposed to covid? either they broke the regulations or the inner circle had it.


in that vein how did Donald Trump get it. And Boris Johnson? Unless u can see the virus u can't totally evade it

:shock: :shock: :? :?
You serious?
Trump who held indoor rallies/White House super spreader events?
Boris Johnson who was a Covid skeptic and actually shook hands with +ve patients, only to dissolve into tears when he ended up in ICU on a ventilator?
Ollour really will defend anything LFD RFD PNM boy! :roll:

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Postby toyolink » April 23rd, 2021, 2:21 pm

If I am not mistaken, to determine if someone is covid19 positive they must present themselves to a health facility with symptoms and migrants may be less likely to do same especially if illegal.
The reality is that covid19 is here and given the levels of mobility of our population and how small a physical space we coexist in, no where is 'safe'.
Vaccine impact is a long way off based on the availability statistics and the state machinery is running out of steam and money.
As fed-up and tired as we all may be, its going to be up to every individual citizen to do the right things and be ready for some really emotionally harsh results and pain over the next few weeks.
If we can impact the present momentum and start bending the numbers down before the rainy season and our traditional flu season this would be fantastic.
We must also not forget to continue to help our neighbors who may be having grave difficulty feeding their families and are stuck in a real sense of doom.

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Postby Habit7 » April 23rd, 2021, 2:24 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Which means that they should be doing 14 day quarantines or testing after the 14th.day.

You bad talked rapid tests before but that's why they're extremely useful, for doing quick extra checks.

I didn't bad talk rapid tests, I said they were not as accurate as PCR. The reality is we could create whatever rules we want for the virus, it doesn't mean it will obey them. All these are measures of mitigation but a virus wants to spread and it will adapt to spread best. They are doing 14 day quarantines for offshore workers.

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Postby Dohplaydat » April 23rd, 2021, 2:57 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:Which means that they should be doing 14 day quarantines or testing after the 14th.day.

You bad talked rapid tests before but that's why they're extremely useful, for doing quick extra checks.

I didn't bad talk rapid tests, I said they were not as accurate as PCR. The reality is we could create whatever rules we want for the virus, it doesn't mean it will obey them. All these are measures of mitigation but a virus wants to spread and it will adapt to spread best. They are doing 14 day quarantines for offshore workers.


A 14 day quarantine is pointless unless you test after leaving.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 9383 cases, 157 deaths, 1161 active, 8065 recovered in T&T

Postby De Dragon » April 23rd, 2021, 3:00 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:Which means that they should be doing 14 day quarantines or testing after the 14th.day.

You bad talked rapid tests before but that's why they're extremely useful, for doing quick extra checks.

I didn't bad talk rapid tests, I said they were not as accurate as PCR. The reality is we could create whatever rules we want for the virus, it doesn't mean it will obey them. All these are measures of mitigation but a virus wants to spread and it will adapt to spread best. They are doing 14 day quarantines for offshore workers.


A 14 day quarantine is pointless unless you test after leaving.

Agreed, look how long JUHN Scarfy positive.

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Re: Is Tobago a COVID SURGE HOTSPOT ?

Postby RedVEVO » April 23rd, 2021, 3:12 pm

De Dragon wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
sMASH wrote:how can the prime minister, one of the best guarded people in the country, get exposed to covid? either they broke the regulations or the inner circle had it.


in that vein how did Donald Trump get it. And Boris Johnson? Unless u can see the virus u can't totally evade it

:shock: :shock: :? :?
You serious?
Trump who held indoor rallies/White House super spreader events?
Boris Johnson who was a Covid skeptic and actually shook hands with +ve patients, only to dissolve into tears when he ended up in ICU on a ventilator?
Ollour really will defend anything LFD RFD PNM boy! :roll:


ALL MPs should be tested for the COVID .

Smiley was fine but after taking the vaccine and as a person with heart disease - he was up one day and dead another .

Hence much speculation .

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Postby Dohplaydat » April 23rd, 2021, 3:26 pm

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Exactly as I assumed. By now we can assume it's all over and will eventually become the dominant strain.

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Postby pugboy » April 23rd, 2021, 3:37 pm

Yeah that is the scary part, it is outspreading the orig strain in other countries which had wide community spread
We have not reached that level of community spread but it is getting there
Almost everybody now knows somebody directly who has caught virus

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K74T wrote:FB_IMG_1619205447464.jpeg


Exactly as I assumed. By now we can assume it's all over and will eventually become the dominant strain.

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Postby ron_28 » April 23rd, 2021, 4:09 pm

Scary part is that these 3 new cases not linked to the first p1 case or each other

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Postby redmanjp » April 23rd, 2021, 4:18 pm

next few weeks is either hospital beds getting filled like mad with both young and old, or full lockdown

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Postby Dohplaydat » April 23rd, 2021, 4:21 pm

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Postby SuperiorMan » April 23rd, 2021, 4:24 pm

Tuner friends,

When are you all expecting the lockdown?

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Postby redmanjp » April 23rd, 2021, 4:58 pm

anyone know if the persons infected with these variants being put into state facilities? they should be.

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Postby hover11 » April 23rd, 2021, 5:00 pm

Anyone know any contact numbers for health officials regarding this covid situation, an employee tested positive in my workplace today and the employer is unwilling to allow staff to quarantine...this is a Government office

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