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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby wing » May 26th, 2024, 3:54 pm

bluefete wrote:People really living in La La Land in this country.

Incredible how many people do not understand that ALL our plants and dams are BELOW 40% capacity at this time. Some are in their teens.

Caroni is at 33%.

Restrictions should be in place until reservoirs hit at least 80% capacity. We need plenty, plenty rain in the next couple months or our goose will be fully cooked.

Real people with tanks are still clueless.
Should we be proactive and do some dredging to increase the capacity of the dams?

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby bluefete » May 26th, 2024, 4:05 pm

wing wrote:
bluefete wrote:People really living in La La Land in this country.

Incredible how many people do not understand that ALL our plants and dams are BELOW 40% capacity at this time. Some are in their teens.

Caroni is at 33%.

Restrictions should be in place until reservoirs hit at least 80% capacity. We need plenty, plenty rain in the next couple months or our goose will be fully cooked.

Real people with tanks are still clueless.
Should we be proactive and do some dredging to increase the capacity of the dams?


Us - PROACTIVE? In the public sector?

I was just talking to a senior WASA manager about this about an hour ago. He had recommended since 2011 that the dams be dredged. Nothing.

This rounds he recommended that WASA get 2 back hoes and 10 trucks and start cleaning up the dams up to where the water level is now.

Guess what? Answer is no because they have to find a way to corrupt the process. Let us continue to suck salt at the altar of corruption.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby pugboy » May 26th, 2024, 4:09 pm

and of course a private person/developmemt digging their own rainwater collection pond for no potable household use will get locked up

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 26th, 2024, 4:19 pm

wing wrote:
bluefete wrote:People really living in La La Land in this country.

Incredible how many people do not understand that ALL our plants and dams are BELOW 40% capacity at this time. Some are in their teens.

Caroni is at 33%.

Restrictions should be in place until reservoirs hit at least 80% capacity. We need plenty, plenty rain in the next couple months or our goose will be fully cooked.

Real people with tanks are still clueless.
Should we be proactive and do some dredging to increase the capacity of the dams?


That would be the most sensible thing atm...but nah, let's tell them a crisis is looming and we may have to ration water.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby xtech » May 26th, 2024, 4:35 pm

Don’t worry this will be the rainy season to end all rainy seasons.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby fokhan_96 » May 26th, 2024, 7:29 pm

Like anything in this country, we need to pray, pray for rain... that is our solution to the water shortage... prayers.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby st7 » May 26th, 2024, 7:33 pm

erla is a weather witch too?

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Postby redmanjp » May 27th, 2024, 1:21 am

bluefete wrote:People really living in La La Land in this country.

Incredible how many people do not understand that ALL our plants and dams are BELOW 40% capacity at this time. Some are in their teens.

Caroni is at 33%.

Restrictions should be in place until reservoirs hit at least 80% capacity. We need plenty, plenty rain in the next couple months or our goose will be fully cooked.

Real people with tanks are still clueless.


It's hardly ever at 80%. You would have us perpetually on restrictions oui. Yes It's low right now- we just came out of the dry season. But we are out and MET Office predicts a normal wet season so rain on the way- we not going to run out.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby pugboy » May 27th, 2024, 5:44 am

if we get a repeat of last years super hot second half of year then they may not fill back

and the heat these days super drying out everything

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby maj. tom » May 27th, 2024, 8:30 am

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/05/26/reservoirs-still-low-following-weekend-rains/
Statistics provided by the Water and Sewerage Authority (WASA) CEO Kelvin Romain showed that its Hollis reservoir in Valencia received the most rainfall on May 25, with 13 millimetres (mm). In Tobago, Hillsborough received 3.7 mm. The Navet and Arena reservoirs received 1.5 mm and 1 mm respectively.

Romain was unable to provide the current reservoir levels but up to May 12, the four reservoirs were below their respective long-term averages (LTA). Data at the time showed Hollis was at 48 per cent (LTA 49 per cent), Hillsborough at 48 per cent (LTA 58 per cent), Navet at 38 per cent (LTA 53 per cent) and Arena at 35 per cent (LTA 60 per cent).

At the time, WASA said these low levels were because of relatively low rainfall compounded by the loss of water at reservoirs because of evaporation owing to excessive heat. This, it said, reduced water supply by 35 million gallons per day (gpd).

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby pugboy » May 27th, 2024, 8:35 am

might need to cover them reservoirs with a tarp or plastic balls to reduce evaporation

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Postby redmanjp » May 27th, 2024, 3:38 pm

wells are what we need- no open space for evaporation to occur to any great extent.

wells are why the west always has water, not so?

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby fokhan_96 » May 27th, 2024, 4:09 pm

38% and 48% is still plenty water. We jamming still...

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Postby maj. tom » May 27th, 2024, 5:21 pm

As long as all those car washes open and wasting water, as long as the wasa leaks are the ones wasting the majority of water in the country, we definitely jamming still and there is no water emergency or drought problem in real. If there was any actual problem, common sense would say that's what authorities will fix first to make water saving efforts the most effective.

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Postby redmanjp » May 27th, 2024, 5:23 pm

the car washes using hose or bucket?

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby bluefete » May 27th, 2024, 5:48 pm

fokhan_96 wrote:38% and 48% is still plenty water. We jamming still...


You are being sarcastic right? Of course you are.

maj. tom wrote:https://newsday.co.tt/2024/05/26/reservoirs-still-low-following-weekend-rains/
Statistics provided by the Water and Sewerage Authority (WASA) CEO Kelvin Romain showed that its Hollis reservoir in Valencia received the most rainfall on May 25, with 13 millimetres (mm). In Tobago, Hillsborough received 3.7 mm. The Navet and Arena reservoirs received 1.5 mm and 1 mm respectively.

Romain was unable to provide the current reservoir levels but up to May 12, the four reservoirs were below their respective long-term averages (LTA). Data at the time showed Hollis was at 48 per cent (LTA 49 per cent), Hillsborough at 48 per cent (LTA 58 per cent), Navet at 38 per cent (LTA 53 per cent) and Arena at 35 per cent (LTA 60 per cent).

At the time, WASA said these low levels were because of relatively low rainfall compounded by the loss of water at reservoirs because of evaporation owing to excessive heat. This, it said, reduced water supply by 35 million gallons per day (gpd).


This CEO is a total idiot. Collecting a fat salary and benefits every month but cannot give up to date figures on the most critical aspect of his job.

The Minister has updated figures from last week Wednesday 22nd May:

The Aripo, Caura and Tyrico water treatment plants currently operate at between 12 and 16% capacity.

Water treatment plants at North Oropouche are at 25%; Maraval - 26% and Quare - 28%.

Caroni, Hollis, Lluengo Naranjo and Blanchisseuse water treatment plants are currently between 33 and 37% capacity.

Acono, Las Cuevas and St Ann’s are just over 40% capacity.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby Dave » May 27th, 2024, 6:13 pm

redmanjp wrote:the car washes using hose or bucket?
All should be metered irrespective.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby pugboy » May 27th, 2024, 6:43 pm

I have noticed wass metering places in port of spain lately, lot of office type places
which prob dont use that much water apart from toilet flushing

its really the cooking places and households who use water unlimited

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Postby nervewrecker » May 27th, 2024, 8:35 pm

xtech wrote:Don’t worry this will be the rainy season to end all rainy seasons.
A lot of water got converted to vapour. That energy is stored there. We know the law of conservation of energy. Curious as to how it plays off.

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Postby pugboy » May 27th, 2024, 8:51 pm

planet hotter overall so atmosphere holding more water vapour

what on the ground in rivers and reservoirs might end up being less overall whilst it is being cycled between falling hard and flooding then evaporating out real quick back up to the sky

the us is quite suspicious of china doing atmospheric manipulation to get more rainfall

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xtech wrote:Don’t worry this will be the rainy season to end all rainy seasons.
A lot of water got converted to vapour. That energy is stored there. We know the law of conservation of energy. Curious as to how it plays off.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 27th, 2024, 10:31 pm

sea surface temperatures are higher this year which will increase hurricane activity

2005 vs 2024
2005 was the year of Katrina
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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 28th, 2024, 6:14 am

I've watched at least 5 videos from different weather personalities on youtube and the theme seems to be the same.

Expect something this year. Now it doesn't mean that we would get a storm/hurricane, but the probability is higher than usual.

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Postby fokhan_96 » May 28th, 2024, 7:03 am

So this is the calm before the storm then.
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Postby maj. tom » May 28th, 2024, 8:34 am

As with the last 5 years it's not always going to be really about the active danger of a hurricane, but more of how all that stored surface ocean energy is released. And we certainly have felt its effects in rainfall and flooding. Rain releases more energy than the wind in a hurricane. A persistent rain system over the region is just as devastating because it's still more energy released.

While a hurricane is always a high risk in these conditions, we definitely have felt the effects of the increasing climate change, either rainfall or drought conditions. And we are directly observing that it's getting worse every year for sure.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby j.o.e » May 28th, 2024, 10:54 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:I've watched at least 5 videos from different weather personalities on youtube and the theme seems to be the same.

Expect something this year. Now it doesn't mean that we would get a storm/hurricane, but the probability is higher than usual.


Doesn’t take an actual tropical storm or hurricane to wreak havoc in T&T any above normal rainfall is near disastrous. Everyone should put things in place.

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Postby Chimera » May 28th, 2024, 11:01 am

is like yuh hadda get together with yuh neighbours and clean the drains yuhself lol

put up wireless/stand alone cameras where people does dump trash and put their videos online for everyone to see

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Postby MaxPower » May 28th, 2024, 11:33 am

Chimera wrote:
put up wireless/stand alone cameras where people does dump trash and put their videos online for everyone to see


I totally agree.

Same thing i was saying to do in rivers and beaches…make them out.

Embarrassment changes some people.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL TROPICAL WEATHER THREAD 2023

Postby nervewrecker » May 28th, 2024, 7:42 pm

maj. tom wrote:As with the last 5 years it's not always going to be really about the active danger of a hurricane, but more of how all that stored surface ocean energy is released. And we certainly have felt its effects in rainfall and flooding. Rain releases more energy than the wind in a hurricane. A persistent rain system over the region is just as devastating because it's still more energy released.

While a hurricane is always a high risk in these conditions, we definitely have felt the effects of the increasing climate change, either rainfall or drought conditions. And we are directly observing that it's getting worse every year for sure.
Increased temp means the air can hold more vapour. Surface freshwater reserves would run low or be depleted. Groundwater would take a hit and coastal wells would risk irreversible salt water intrusion. Desalination is always an option, it's not end of times. Technology has changed over the decades for potable water extraction from saline.

Heat energy from vapour can be dissipated as electricity and sound. There is still no evidence to support global warming. The temp of the sun is not a constant and so is the earth's surface. We have been through hotter times and ice ages. Global governments just capitalising on the global warming hype for decades and not really solving anything. Sucks that I was rudely interrupted today with stupid talk while conversing with some of these renewable energy guys. They were about to have their asses handed to them.

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Postby redmanjp » May 29th, 2024, 2:01 pm

customary Corpus Christi rain tomorrow


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Postby redmanjp » May 29th, 2024, 7:34 pm

First Adverse weather alert for the wet season issued!

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