The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH)

[elec2020]

https://peptt.com/policies/

that is enough, and better than any other party. i have lived through this latest iteration of PNM, and even if they do speak of a good idea or plan, they lie, so no reason to believe they will follow tru.

if u wnat to critique and say, those are just policies and not plans, i will say, pnm also doesnt have plans, only lies.
pnm lies.
pnm lies.


and if u went to the fridge and u missed what i said,

pnm lies.

U post the plan and say nothing about it... like how feasible the damns in all municipalities is... or how feasible it is for banks to willingly forgo interest rates on mortgages and fees and charges... as stated earlier if your desire to switch the current political party to another is because u were slighted say so... dont state that this better than that though as so far pep's plans are economically unfeasible and unc has stated twice so far that sunlight cures covid... sorry if i dont hole your confidence in these two options

[sMASH]

teh only reason why pnm got a financial ease in 2018, was because of the performance of this project, that was signed by kevin ramnarine in 2014. it wasnt PNM fiduciary excellence. it was kamla that put things in place for them.



https://www.ogj.com/drilling-production ... and-tobago

BPTT: Juniper starts gas production offshore Trinidad and Tobago

BP PLC’s Trinidad and Tobago unit has reported the startup of its fifth major upstream project for 2017. BP Trinidad & Tobago’s (BPTT) Juniper development has begun production of natural gas offshore the twin-island Caribbean nation.
Curtis Williams
Aug 14th, 2017
Content Dam Ogj Online Articles 2017 08 Bp Juniper Trinidad

BP PLC’s Trinidad and Tobago unit has reported the startup of its fifth major upstream project for 2017. BP Trinidad & Tobago’s (BPTT) Juniper development has begun production of natural gas offshore the twin-island Caribbean nation.

The project is expected to boost BPTT’s gas production capacity by 590 MMscfd and allow the company to meet its commitment to maintain its production from Trinidad and Tobago at more than 2 bscfd of gas.

BPTT said the project cost $2 billion and that Juniper is its first subsea field development in Trinidad and Tobago. It will produce gas from Corallita and Lantana fields via the new Juniper platform, 50 miles off the twin-island nation’s southeast coast. The gas is being produced on the continental shelf in 110 m of water. BPTT said the gas will flow to its Mahogany B hub via a 10-km flowline that was installed in 2016.

Content Dam Ogj Online Articles 2017 08 Bp Juniper Trinidad

Bernard Looney, chief executive of BP’s upstream business, called Juniper a “major milestone” in BP’s 50-year history in Trinidad and Tobago. “It is the largest new project brought into production in Trinidad [and Tobago] for several years and the second major project we have started here this year,” Looney said.

Juniper’s startup is expected to assist with the gas shortages that the twin-island nation has suffered over the last 3 years that has hurt its downstream production of methanol, ammonia, and urea and has led to Atlantic LNG producing at 80% capacity.

BPTT noted that the Trinidad Onshore Compression project, which is another of its major projects on the island, began operations in April. And in June, BPTT reported that it had sanctioned development of the Angelin gas field, which is expected to start production in late 2019. BPTT also announced two gas discoveries that may support future developments offshore.

pnm aint able. a crapaud could run the country better... one crapaud alone, dont even need a team

[sMASH]

https://peptt.com/policies/

that is enough, and better than any other party. i have lived through this latest iteration of PNM, and even if they do speak of a good idea or plan, they lie, so no reason to believe they will follow tru.

if u wnat to critique and say, those are just policies and not plans, i will say, pnm also doesnt have plans, only lies.
pnm lies.
pnm lies.


and if u went to the fridge and u missed what i said,

pnm lies.

U post the plan and say nothing about it... like how feasible the damns in all municipalities is... or how feasible it is for banks to willingly forgo interest rates on mortgages and fees and charges... as stated earlier if your desire to switch the current political party to another is because u were slighted say so... dont state that this better than that though as so far pep's plans are economically unfeasible and unc has stated twice so far that sunlight cures covid... sorry if i dont hole your confidence in these two options

read tru the phillip thread, i explained some of it there.

[elec2020]

We talking economics now... yh my bread and butter... ok with respect to the higher deficit to gdp that would have occured due to the impact of the drop in energy prices on the budget... in fact several net energy oil exporters recorded high budget deficits as typically their budgets are based on what they believe energy prices would be (this link https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/1173 ... il-prices/ would explain the theory behind this development)... so it is not uncommon for the trend observed in the last few years to occur... especially in 2015 when oil prices dropped by more than 50 percent between 2014 and 2015... i wouldnt use the budget deficit to explain the deficiencies of the current government.... given that u used statistics here... can u also provide statistics/data to show why unc and pep are the better option... keeping in mind tnt still observed consecutive deficits between 2010 and 2012 when oil prices were at their historical highest

[sMASH]

watch the graph from 2015 and before... u coudl see why. and from 2018 onwards, that because of the groundwork unc laid.

[elec2020]

https://peptt.com/policies/

that is enough, and better than any other party. i have lived through this latest iteration of PNM, and even if they do speak of a good idea or plan, they lie, so no reason to believe they will follow tru.

if u wnat to critique and say, those are just policies and not plans, i will say, pnm also doesnt have plans, only lies.
pnm lies.
pnm lies.


and if u went to the fridge and u missed what i said,

pnm lies.

U post the plan and say nothing about it... like how feasible the damns in all municipalities is... or how feasible it is for banks to willingly forgo interest rates on mortgages and fees and charges... as stated earlier if your desire to switch the current political party to another is because u were slighted say so... dont state that this better than that though as so far pep's plans are economically unfeasible and unc has stated twice so far that sunlight cures covid... sorry if i dont hole your confidence in these two options

read tru the phillip thread, i explained some of it there.

Found the original post that i spoke to you about pep's policies... see it below

sMASH wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
Skanky wrote:
So once again nobody has any reason based on fact why PEP isn't the best choice of the three?


The policies are imaginative/unrealistic.m:

no deposit or interest for 1st time home owners for 30 years? Which bank giving u that kind of loan?

move all government offices to the center of the island to reduce traffic. Lol. First off how much available commercisl space is their in central to do so... also won't that just increase traffic in central, south and the east corridors?

Establishment of community owned wells and dissilation plants to provide water for all... this is good on paper... but this could cost tens of millions... given that we will be in a severe economic recession soon... is this feasible

I could go on... but i hope people are catching on... that these politicians dont know what the hell they are doing and just promising us the world to gain votes... half of their campaign policies are illogical/unfeasible


our realistic policies arent working, at least not PNM's policies. still waiting on the ROI on the Brian lara Tsunami shelter.

if u legislate it, it WILL happen. but, they spoke of allowing more banks to enter the market as well as allow credit unions to step up how much functionality they have.. so that the banking sector will become aggressively competitive.

govt offices,,, the push is for it to be more E based. with offices more centrally located. if u worried about land use, close ur eye, when ur driving down the highway, it will frighten u.

community BASED water solutions. not owned, and not desalination. the rainfall that we experience is enough for our yearly use, its just to capture and store for the dry periods. if u split it up, it would democratize the water availability, than just one main buss and half the country dry.


ur blatant mischaracterizations of their points, coupled to ur recent join date, leads me to think that this is a sponsored account.


i) banks have been leaving the Caribbean over the last few years... example scotiabank and royal bank... they have been leaving as according to the articles they are not getting the amount of profits that they used to... so based on that how will PEP get more banks into TnT? Also... for credit unions to compete wirh banks you would assume they have the same amount of deposits/contributions... as that is essentially what comprises loans... depositor funds... i dont have the statistics but i believe it is highly unlikely that credit unions have the same level of funds like a bank... if that was the case the collapse of hindu credit union would have been particularly devistating... but u barely hear about it anymore... so if credit unions dont have the level of funds like banks how can they compete with banks?

ii) a lot of things cannot be e based... driver's permit application? Passport application? Death certificate? Land Deeds? Also have you tried to use the e-tax complaint option... no one responds to you... unless their is some way to identify people electronically... in that i know 100 per cent that the person requesting this passport (for instance) is in fact so and so... or a proper querying system for issues... then the move to e services will have severe issues... further a move to e based services will mean alot of job losses as you dont need for example 5 clerks to handle walk in requests as people wil he using that service online... which government is going to put in facilities/programs that will lead to big staff cuts?

iii) PEP's plan stated the establishment of water purification and distribution (my bad i thought i read desilation) plants in all 41 constituents... how feasible is this project when we are going to enter a severe depression.

iv) i have no potlitical affiliations... doubt i am even going to vote for this elections coming... as all politicians selling the same thing in tnt.... dreams... i just want to critically dissect the feasability of these projects to some of ya'll cause a lot of times people see red, yellow, etc first... they dont study the stupidity of these promises... for instance kamla promised... i think... to improve the cruise ship industry in Tobago.... LOL.... in a pandameic... the last place people will be is om a cruise ship... only when this pandemic runs itself out or we stumble up om a vaccine... will tourism revitalize itself... even so... with numerous people worldwide losing their jobs... who have money in the short to medium term to go on a destination vacation... but these politicians does just tell ya'll what ya'll want to hear and prey on the fact that most people dont critically analyse their suggestions

[elec2020]

I think my last comment dated some time in May speaks for itself on all matters i raised... all parties currently available are a joke... none have a plan to get us out of this predicament... if u claiming otherwise... u just fooling yourself... like alot of people on the forum i am beging for change... but till a solid option comes i will steady my hand... if racial tensions intensify i may be forced to vote pnm as i remember how hard it was for me to rent/get a job/ get a loan/etc between 2010 and 2015... and an increase in racial tensions would indicate to me that i may experience that again... and i refuse to not do anything and knowingly throw myself into that situation again... as stated earlier their is a big reason why 32 per cent of people surveyed indicated they were undecided... 2 weeks to go and so much people inna survey undecided... their is a reason for that... move beyond race, propoganda, etc for this elections coming... else we all doomed to repeat the cycle that we are in

[paid_influencer]

elec2020 getting paid by word count

[sMASH]

hoss, the banks post 1/2 billions profits every year. they not gonna leave if they go down to a 300m year.

water treatment in every constituency will not happen over night, but u will need some amount of localized storage adn treatment, to make the system fault tolerant. we already have tanks in properties, so dedicating a few acres a locale, will not be significantly different.

a lot of the things we need to go to get that u saying cannot be e based, has to become ebased. just like what LO did, to put databases to store every ting, so to should most things. and renewal shuld be as simple as getting the e reminder, updating the docs where applicable, making the payment, and confirming it. that is why rowley pushing that as his latest platform lie, i mean promise.

[maj. tom]

elec2020 getting paid by word count

is that why he can't use paragraphs?
His tertiary education TAs must have loved reading those "wall of text" essays... full with ellipsis.

[The_Honourable]

...but seeing these stupid racist individuals on different social media platforms has irked me to the point where just to prove a point i would vote pnm...

...may be inclined to vote pnm just because ravial tensions have escalated significantly in the last few days and imo by not voting and unc wins i would be supporting that section of their base that enjoys chasting and ridiculing other races...

...if racial tensions intensify i may be forced to vote pnm as i remember how hard it was for me to rent/get a job/ get a loan/etc between 2010 and 2015...

wait wait wait...

So you are not going to vote because all the choices for this elections not satisfying the questions you have about their policies they touting and you believe that they are selling dreams. That's fine, i can deal with someone who withholding their vote and believe in the no vote campaign or spoil ballot etc. I can run with that logic.

But you voting pnm based on racial tensions? After all the reasonable arguments you put forward, you then turn around and royally shot yourself in the foot three times.

Are you telling us that the pnm base does not chastise and ridicule other races? From what I see on fb, both the afro and indo base are chastising each other to the same degree.

You need to give details on why you could not get a job, loan, rent etc during that time because i can guarantee there are persons out there who will be voting against the pnm experiencing the same.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Just when we taught one eye and randolph was bad...elec2020 comes along

[elec2020]

Ok then lets see how the next 5 years goes

[Gladiator]

Well if you had a hard time finding employment between 2010 and 2015 when things was real good in the job market but find it easier to find employment between 2015 and 2020 when the job market has totally crashed, I can only conclude that you getting some racial or political preference now under the PNM to be able to land a job in the worst unemployment state in decades in t&t...

I think my last comment dated some time in May speaks for itself on all matters i raised... all parties currently available are a joke... none have a plan to get us out of this predicament... if u claiming otherwise... u just fooling yourself... like alot of people on the forum i am beging for change... but till a solid option comes i will steady my hand... if racial tensions intensify i may be forced to vote pnm as i remember how hard it was for me to rent/get a job/ get a loan/etc between 2010 and 2015... and an increase in racial tensions would indicate to me that i may experience that again... and i refuse to not do anything and knowingly throw myself into that situation again... as stated earlier their is a big reason why 32 per cent of people surveyed indicated they were undecided... 2 weeks to go and so much people inna survey undecided... their is a reason for that... move beyond race, propoganda, etc for this elections coming... else we all doomed to repeat the cycle that we are in

[elec2020]

Well if you had a hard time finding employment between 2010 and 2015 when things was real good in the job market but find it easier to find employment between 2015 and 2020 when the job market has totally crashed, I can only conclude that you getting some racial or political preference now under the PNM to be able to land a job in the worst unemployment state in decades in t&t...

I think my last comment dated some time in May speaks for itself on all matters i raised... all parties currently available are a joke... none have a plan to get us out of this predicament... if u claiming otherwise... u just fooling yourself... like alot of people on the forum i am beging for change... but till a solid option comes i will steady my hand... if racial tensions intensify i may be forced to vote pnm as i remember how hard it was for me to rent/get a job/ get a loan/etc between 2010 and 2015... and an increase in racial tensions would indicate to me that i may experience that again... and i refuse to not do anything and knowingly throw myself into that situation again... as stated earlier their is a big reason why 32 per cent of people surveyed indicated they were undecided... 2 weeks to go and so much people inna survey undecided... their is a reason for that... move beyond race, propoganda, etc for this elections coming... else we all doomed to repeat the cycle that we are in

I found it hard... but i got through... i never said that post 2015 i gt with everything... anyway i done having to justify my comments as i said before lets see how the next 5 years go

[elec2020]

elec2020 getting paid by word count

is that why he can't use paragraphs?
His tertiary education TAs must have loved reading those "wall of text" essays... full with ellipsis.

Sorry

[elec2020]

Just when we taught one eye and randolph was bad...elec2020 comes along

Ok

[elec2020]

elec2020 getting paid by word count

Ok

[elec2020]

hoss, the banks post 1/2 billions profits every year. they not gonna leave if they go down to a 300m year.

water treatment in every constituency will not happen over night, but u will need some amount of localized storage adn treatment, to make the system fault tolerant. we already have tanks in properties, so dedicating a few acres a locale, will not be significantly different.

a lot of the things we need to go to get that u saying cannot be e based, has to become ebased. just like what LO did, to put databases to store every ting, so to should most things. and renewal shuld be as simple as getting the e reminder, updating the docs where applicable, making the payment, and confirming it. that is why rowley pushing that as his latest platform lie, i mean promise.

Ok

[elec2020]

...but seeing these stupid racist individuals on different social media platforms has irked me to the point where just to prove a point i would vote pnm...

...may be inclined to vote pnm just because ravial tensions have escalated significantly in the last few days and imo by not voting and unc wins i would be supporting that section of their base that enjoys chasting and ridiculing other races...

...if racial tensions intensify i may be forced to vote pnm as i remember how hard it was for me to rent/get a job/ get a loan/etc between 2010 and 2015...

wait wait wait...

So you are not going to vote because all the choices for this elections not satisfying the questions you have about their policies they touting and you believe that they are selling dreams. That's fine, i can deal with someone who withholding their vote and believe in the no vote campaign or spoil ballot etc. I can run with that logic.

But you voting pnm based on racial tensions? After all the reasonable arguments you put forward, you then turn around and royally shot yourself in the foot three times.

Are you telling us that the pnm base does not chastise and ridicule other races? From what I see on fb, both the afro and indo base are chastising each other to the same degree.

You need to give details on why you could not get a job, loan, rent etc during that time because i can guarantee there are persons out there who will be voting against the pnm experiencing the same.

Ok

[rebound]

Allyuh shutdown the man jus so jus so......I was wondering, when this happens, would they still get paid?

[zoom rader]

Allyuh shutdown the man jus so jus so......I was wondering, when this happens, would they still get paid?

How dumb PNM can be to hire elec2020 . Who chooses a name like elec2020

He comes in and tries to play the fence sitter hoping to gain their support , then he goes off on a rant when hes exposed .

Now he cant even respond and does so with an "ok"

Eliteauto please get some new undercover bloggers , these COSTTA failed students not cutting it.

[Redman]

watch the graph from 2015 and before... u coudl see why. and from 2018 onwards, that because of the groundwork unc laid.

Eh....
Nutting to do with oil and gas prices?
If the UNC was running deficits when we had more revenue than ever before....why would they suddenly be able to balance budgets when revenues cut in half?

Where does the 16 B the UNC pull from NGC fits?
That is where we seeing their ground work....Raiding cash.

I see the UNC proposing to take cash from UTC and NIB to fund road works....how allyuh feel that will work....given the nature of those institutions?
How did that model work with NGC?

[MaxPower]

Just want to say a special good morning to Keith and team.

Wishing him and his empire a great victory in advance.

[zoom rader]

Just want to say a special good morning to Keith and team.

Wishing him and his empire a great victory in advance.

Max

Stay out of this election chead go bat in the vene chead

[sMASH]

wait ah minute. when 2020 election over, he gonna disappear?

[zoom rader]

wait ah minute. when 2020 election over, he gonna disappear?

She pull ah Abstract Poetic

[sMASH]

watch the graph from 2015 and before... u coudl see why. and from 2018 onwards, that because of the groundwork unc laid.

Eh....
Nutting to do with oil and gas prices?
If the UNC was running deficits when we had more revenue than ever before....why would they suddenly be able to balance budgets when revenues cut in half?

Where does the 16 B the UNC pull from NGC fits?
That is where we seeing their ground work....Raiding cash.

I see the UNC proposing to take cash from UTC and NIB to fund road works....how allyuh feel that will work....given the nature of those institutions?
How did that model work with NGC?

because they read the play early. at least k. ramnarine was able to put things in place to mitigate the falling prices, since 2014. they cant change the prices, and increasing production was the easiest way to bolster the cashflow asap... that ended up bearing fruit in 2018, giving pnm some breathing room.
what rowley did? close down petrotrin. yes, it wasnt making money, but restructuring and putting so many people on the breadline was good for business, but bad for the economy. i personally, would have slashed salaries, on 'threat' of closure. many person i know in petro, was willing to take salary cuts to at least keep a salary.

but hear the problems with the salary, cuts. because the salaries on the lower levels, would be the ones to get cut, if they get cut, u will not see a big ease in cash flow. cause the claim of inflated salaries, at least below management level, would not have been their biggest cost center.

and rowley dem wanting to get the refinery restarted, just nullifies all the points they made to close it down.

[elec2020]

Allyuh shutdown the man jus so jus so......I was wondering, when this happens, would they still get paid?

Ok

[Redman]

Bah ahaha ha
Read the play early and run deficits despite more revenue than ever before.
Hahahahaha.
That’s rich,
Hahahahaha

Read the play in 2014 but budget at 80 oil.
Haha haha

Read the play on lower energy prices....but raid NGC of 16B .....crippling it.

Yeah....steups