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nemisis wrote:Most of the issues employers want to complain about in their work force is primarily caused at a management level.
MaxPower wrote:Friends, let’s not throw the blame on the employers solely.
You can have the best management, Trinidadian mentality still subsists.
Imagine looking after your workers,
i.e - favorable salaries, commendations, promotions, rewards, bonuses, benefits etc, and Carnival time come around and they buss a sick in yuh mc. Stale drunk, tired and unable to function, more than usual attitude, poor performance. Heck this happen after a typical Friday and Saturday night, or after a holiday. Why?
Come on, Trinidadians always look for EVERY single possible excuse to NOT work efficiently or perform.
The same way how 88sins mentioned that Venes will go back to their home country ways once they settle, its the exact way a Trini will revert to AFTER they are treated properly.
Im not saying Venes are perfect.....unfortunately and currently, they are proving to be better workers than Trinidadians.
MaxPower wrote:When allyuh jealous AF suffering Trini boys going to wake up?
De Dragon you still ketchin yuh little kant to put food on the table for yuh children?
Get to work na....Venes outperforming allyuh. Only then will you win our respect.
MaxPower wrote:Friends, let’s not throw the blame on the employers solely.
You can have the best management, Trinidadian mentality still subsists.
Imagine looking after your workers,
i.e - favorable salaries, commendations, promotions, rewards, bonuses, benefits etc, and Carnival time come around and they buss a sick in yuh mc. Stale drunk, tired and unable to function, more than usual attitude, poor performance. Heck this happen after a typical Friday and Saturday night, or after a holiday. Why?
Come on, Trinidadians always look for EVERY single possible excuse to NOT work efficiently or perform.
The same way how 88sins mentioned that Venes will go back to their home country ways once they settle, its the exact way a Trini will revert to AFTER they are treated properly.
Im not saying Venes are perfect.....unfortunately and currently, they are proving to be better workers than Trinidadians.
MaxPower wrote:I know ALOT of business owners who are actually paying the Venezuelans more than what they would pay a Trini.
Most are very understanding and sympathetic and give a little more.
So allyuh failure trinis jus sit down dumb and jobless and feel that all Venezuelans getting low wages and being treated like sheit. The tables turn.
nemisis wrote:Employers in Trinidad want a plantation. You must be afraid to take a sick leave around carnival because you not sick you going party. Do you have small kids sick, leave doesn’t apply to them. The only funerals you must attend must be your mother and father as if time off for a funeral is a party. Be on work on time everyday but late once and you getting a warning about your punctuality( saw this first hand). You can have lunch but if business occurs during your lunch break stop what you doing. Wait until the end of the work day to have a pressing meeting ( hope you don’t have kids to get home too). Guava season so work unpaid over time. Psychological abuse as well ( keep mentioning how lucky you are to be employed when even banks retrenching workers at every opportunity) saw that happen first hand as well. You made it to vacation get frequent calls about work.
nemisis wrote:Employers in Trinidad want a plantation. You must be afraid to take a sick leave around carnival because you not sick you going party. Do you have small kids sick, leave doesn’t apply to them. The only funerals you must attend must be your mother and father as if time off for a funeral is a party. Be on work on time everyday but late once and you getting a warning about your punctuality( saw this first hand). You can have lunch but if business occurs during your lunch break stop what you doing. Wait until the end of the work day to have a pressing meeting ( hope you don’t have kids to get home too). Guava season so work unpaid over time. Psychological abuse as well ( keep mentioning how lucky you are to be employed when even banks retrenching workers at every opportunity) saw that happen first hand as well. You made it to vacation get frequent calls about work.
88sins wrote:Now, I ask you this
If you were subjected to either of those forms of abuse, over and over and over again, moving from one job to another and meeting similar if not the same treatment, would your work ethic change or remain the same as in give them your all? and if it did change, how long would it take before it did?
88sins wrote:So, now that it's understood that Trini employers are part of the problem, & that they often abuse workers, and that Trini workers eh gonna swallow that abuse dry so & that the effects of said abuse usually is reflected in their performance, I pose this question...
When the Vene worker gets subjected to the same abuse the Trini employer wants to dish out (& this is a safe assumption, assuming the worker is the only thing that changes in the equation & employer slave master mentality remains constant & he eh busy eating Vene culo), what stopping them from robbing the employer, before moving on to a new job? Either at gunpoint, or by other subtle means.
Remember, these ppl have zero loyalty to anyone or anywhere, and can easily disappear.
MaxPower wrote:88sins wrote:Now, I ask you this
If you were subjected to either of those forms of abuse, over and over and over again, moving from one job to another and meeting similar if not the same treatment, would your work ethic change or remain the same as in give them your all? and if it did change, how long would it take before it did?
Been there and done that. My work ethic never changed. I am not letting my work standards change due to the actions of others. Its a self respect and I have a reputation to upkeep. I am the worker, when you hear my name, there is absolutely no reason for criticism.
Again i sense too much complaining from Trinidadians. What job does anyone here know of that is perfect? Allyuh want to go to work feeling relaxed and comfortable? Have a sweet heart boss? Nice salary? Flawless work conditions? Rules and regulations that are subjected to leniency?
Talk to ANY successful Trinidadian who were unfortunate to have the inheritance/connections cards. Ask them about their past work experiences. It wasn’t easy. They endured the worst of conditions, kept their head on with some of life’s free gifts - Attitude, Aptitude, Ambition, Determination, Motivation.
Why is it the older generation folks e.g - your grandfather u mentioned always have the best advice?. Do you think he gained all that knowledge by working comfortably his whole life? Im sure as hell he had it rough in his times, i lie? Why cant Trinidadians these days apply a similar work ethic?
Somewhere along the road Trinidadians became complacent and lazy. Working hard has become a problem. How will we learn if we dont experience hard ships? i.e - sheit work, sheit money, sheit conditions with a sheit boss.....sounds like the average job to me. But no one is saying to eat this sheit and suck it all up.....its how allyuh carry about yourselves is the problem.
People ass too happy in this country.
nemisis wrote:Working hard to reach no where fast is the reality! The old people ( grandparents as you say) had it easy. EASY. In their time they could have bought house, land, and have 15 children on the salary of one UNEDUCATED bread winner. If you really think the problem is the Trini then you clearly never saw a Trini working in the states. They will work sheit jobs and happily because they getting paid in USD. Them same guntresss who mouth twist up in kfc are one of the most sought after care givers! Why such a difference?
MaxPower wrote:nemisis wrote:Working hard to reach no where fast is the reality! The old people ( grandparents as you say) had it easy. EASY. In their time they could have bought house, land, and have 15 children on the salary of one UNEDUCATED bread winner. If you really think the problem is the Trini then you clearly never saw a Trini working in the states. They will work sheit jobs and happily because they getting paid in USD. Them same guntresss who mouth twist up in kfc are one of the most sought after care givers! Why such a difference?
Hello Nemisis,
False ripe Yankees working sheit jobs in the states and happy cuz its USD money?
Sounds like suffering to me and level ketch ass.
nemisis wrote:^^^ other employees not setting a high bar sounds like a work culture for said business, not being fired for being a poor employee seems like management not doing what they should. So essentially you describe a Petri dish the lab technician leaving to fester and vex fungus growing.
l33t2 wrote:MaxPower wrote:nemisis wrote:Working hard to reach no where fast is the reality! The old people ( grandparents as you say) had it easy. EASY. In their time they could have bought house, land, and have 15 children on the salary of one UNEDUCATED bread winner. If you really think the problem is the Trini then you clearly never saw a Trini working in the states. They will work sheit jobs and happily because they getting paid in USD. Them same guntresss who mouth twist up in kfc are one of the most sought after care givers! Why such a difference?
Hello Nemisis,
False ripe Yankees working sheit jobs in the states and happy cuz its USD money?
Sounds like suffering to me and level ketch ass.
Cuz it's all about consequences and expectations. In trini they could be lazy as no one expects workers to go extra. Other workers aren't often setting the bar high and there isn't a huge risk of being fired for being a shitty employee. And if they do, they could move back with mammy or pappi and get a lil cepep/urp/OJT wuk. Additionally, it always have somebody they know who could get them a small wuk.
In the US for a migrant, it simply isn't so. It's all up to you to pull your weight. Plus trinis get intimidated by the fanciness of it all and are eager to please to be accepted.
This isn't unique to Trinidad migrants
You cah even get Eleitauto or redman to comment on PNM thesedays.De Dragon wrote:Arse Wari only talking up in he MC. He should tell us of his personal efforts to help these people, like how much of his unethical rent money he's donated to the Catholic School for the migrant children, or how many registered migrants he's hiring to maintain One Alexandra. The only crying Arse Wari doing is when JUHN Scarfy forget the KY.
zoom rader wrote:You cah even get Eleitauto or redman to comment on PNM thesedays.De Dragon wrote:Arse Wari only talking up in he MC. He should tell us of his personal efforts to help these people, like how much of his unethical rent money he's donated to the Catholic School for the migrant children, or how many registered migrants he's hiring to maintain One Alexandra. The only crying Arse Wari doing is when JUHN Scarfy forget the KY.
Dem gone into hidding
Eleitauto needs to hire better bloggersDe Dragon wrote:zoom rader wrote:You cah even get Eleitauto or redman to comment on PNM thesedays.De Dragon wrote:Arse Wari only talking up in he MC. He should tell us of his personal efforts to help these people, like how much of his unethical rent money he's donated to the Catholic School for the migrant children, or how many registered migrants he's hiring to maintain One Alexandra. The only crying Arse Wari doing is when JUHN Scarfy forget the KY.
Dem gone into hidding
Unlike Tokesy, dem smart enough to know when to run eeen. Tokesy like he dotish, or he PNM gargling instinct is reflexive.
zoom rader wrote:You cah even get Eleitauto or redman to comment on PNM thesedays.De Dragon wrote:Arse Wari only talking up in he MC. He should tell us of his personal efforts to help these people, like how much of his unethical rent money he's donated to the Catholic School for the migrant children, or how many registered migrants he's hiring to maintain One Alexandra. The only crying Arse Wari doing is when JUHN Scarfy forget the KY.
Dem gone into hidding
Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:You cah even get Eleitauto or redman to comment on PNM thesedays.De Dragon wrote:Arse Wari only talking up in he MC. He should tell us of his personal efforts to help these people, like how much of his unethical rent money he's donated to the Catholic School for the migrant children, or how many registered migrants he's hiring to maintain One Alexandra. The only crying Arse Wari doing is when JUHN Scarfy forget the KY.
Dem gone into hidding
why comment on sheit?
you fill that need quite well.
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