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Re: Wayne Kublalsingh Hunger Strike...

Postby Habit7 » December 4th, 2012, 11:12 am

toyolink wrote:Mr Kublalsingh as I understand it ...has now stated he will continue his journey to the doors of death 'to have the gov't exercise good goverance and transparency' in their dealings.
This man just keep shifting the goal post everyday.
This thread now has the opportunity to go into all kinds of directions which is not inconsistent with the behaviour of the protestor.

Its clear that he has lost wide spread support, all he receives now is pity for himself and not for his cause. Everyday this lengthens he stirs the ire of the larger public, but still has raised some unanswered questions that some other cause needs to support him on, like the reason for increase from 5.4 billion to 7.2 billion.

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Postby DrunkenMaster16 » December 4th, 2012, 11:17 am

pioneer wrote:Irony - la brea and environ residents have blocked roads protesting deplorable conditions

Inb4 infrastructure


Can't get to work = work from home for me. Need to go point to pay NIS... have to put it off.

please hurry and finish the highway!!!

BTW residents are planning to block the roads tomorrow as well. :evil:

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Postby WetR » December 4th, 2012, 11:59 am

from 2006 newsday:

"Joint Consultative Council (JCC) for the Construction Industry President Winston Riley said yesterday that the potential for corruption in the Trinidad Rapid Rail Project (TRRP) is greater than that of corruption in the construction of the Piarco International Airport.....Francois said that several times the group has requested from the government transparency on the TRRP but to no avail. As their concerns have not been addressed by Government, he said, the group had no choice but to turn to the media."

a wait and see situation wrt this highway oui. but i bet a better case can be made for the highway

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Postby nervewrecker » December 4th, 2012, 12:28 pm

WetR wrote:from 2006 newsday:

"Joint Consultative Council (JCC) for the Construction Industry President Winston Riley said yesterday that the potential for corruption in the Trinidad Rapid Rail Project (TRRP) is greater than that of corruption in the construction of the Piarco International Airport.....Francois said that several times the group has requested from the government transparency on the TRRP but to no avail. As their concerns have not been addressed by Government, he said, the group had no choice but to turn to the media."

a wait and see situation wrt this highway oui. but i bet a better case can be made for the highway


If this gubment say "jump" the media does reply "how high".

PNM used to get their blows and take it, since PP in power I donno why I have a suspicion that someone screening what is printed from what isnt.

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Postby rspann » December 4th, 2012, 12:38 pm

He wanted a review,the government agrees and he is still protesting.The jcc did in three days without a hunger strike,what he could not do.Everyone said there was no study done, no cost/benefit analysis and hydrology report,now they are seeing the comprehensive report that was done,they are changing the parameters again.I believe that nothing that the PP does can satisfy the PNM and their sheep and nothing that the PNM did in the past was a problem for said sheep.What Israel Khan said was correct,go and read it.I am seeing an element of racial intolerance here,because it is Penal,Debe Siparia and Fyzabad that is benefiting there is this outcry.Rowley said it again on a morning show monday,"why all the development going to these constituencies?"If you want to be truthful ,the E/W corridor has gotten more than it's fair share for years,(besides the finite expenditures,count Cepep,URP,socal programmes,and money budgeted for crime as a result of their behavior). When it was going all one way before it was no problem.Rowley admitted that it was a PNM project with PNM giving the project for tender PP only implementing it.So what is the problem?At least Afra Raymond said he was satisfied with the talks and the agreement,so what is Kublalsingh's problem now?The latest is Paula Scoon saying they going to protest for a hospital in point,she was there( and the PNM )all this time,why didn't they do it then ?One more thing,any body who is afraid Kublalsingh dies,have to be real naive to believe he is not eating or drinking or that he is going to die,do some research into that(if you really believe)and see for yourself.If you think it is not relevant whether he is on a strict hunger and the real issue is the principle,well,you answer yourself in your heart if he's being sincere in his quest,and ask yourself what defense you would have come up with if it was the PNM he was protesting against.

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Postby rfari » December 4th, 2012, 12:47 pm

Look at froth!!!!

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Postby Monster 101 » December 4th, 2012, 1:06 pm

Dr. Wayne Kublalsingh sets 3 conditions to ending his hunger strike:

1. Point 3 of framework must state clearly no construction on the Debe to Mon Desir section while the committee meets.

2. Cost benefit , social impact and hydrology reports to be included

3. The terms of reference must include provision for oral and written submission made to the committee by residents



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Re: Wayne Kublalsingh Hunger Strike...

Postby pioneer » December 4th, 2012, 1:14 pm

who wayne feel he is? lol


let him form he own pparty and go win elections then we go take him on


edit - he eh dead yet?

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Re: Wayne Kublalsingh Hunger Strike...

Postby Habit7 » December 4th, 2012, 1:16 pm

you can tell when a man jump in a thread without reading the previous pages


kurpal_v2 wrote:
Soul Collector wrote:
kurpal_v2 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
rfari wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Who say PNM against Debe to Mon Desir section?

Moonilal, jack or dey granny tell dem dat. And dey believe it. :lol::lol::lol:

Oh Moonilal, the guy who once was against the Debe to Mon Desir section.



Monilall, the guy who stages most of the protests/interviews in his constituency. Yea that guy.

Same one who lead his own hunger strike in UWI.



Yep, same one who gave a citizen a government vehicle to go round up protesters against arwadi (counsellor) down sumai (sp) trace two Sundays back.

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Re: Wayne Kublalsingh Hunger Strike...

Postby WetR » December 4th, 2012, 1:19 pm

nervewrecker wrote:
WetR wrote:from 2006 newsday:

"Joint Consultative Council (JCC) for the Construction Industry President Winston Riley said yesterday that the potential for corruption in the Trinidad Rapid Rail Project (TRRP) is greater than that of corruption in the construction of the Piarco International Airport.....Francois said that several times the group has requested from the government transparency on the TRRP but to no avail. As their concerns have not been addressed by Government, he said, the group had no choice but to turn to the media."

a wait and see situation wrt this highway oui. but i bet a better case can be made for the highway


If this gubment say "jump" the media does reply "how high".

PNM used to get their blows and take it, since PP in power I donno why I have a suspicion that someone screening what is printed from what isnt.


bring facts!

jcc seems to be very critical of certain iconic projects. imagine how many people still actually want TRRP. and how many ppl benefit daily from airport proj.

are trini newspapers capable of disclosing info on orgs (eg by whom are they paid) that supposedly are more trustworthy than the govt of the day?

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Re: Wayne Kublalsingh Hunger Strike...

Postby rspann » December 4th, 2012, 1:25 pm

When someone says something you agree with, its sensible discussion.When someone says something you disagree with ,its froth.Is your nameRowley,Hinds,or Kublalsingh.I'm sure you believe he hasn't eaten or drank any thing for 19 days,that's always your level of analysis.

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Postby rfari » December 4th, 2012, 1:26 pm

WetR wrote:
nervewrecker wrote:
WetR wrote:from 2006 newsday:

"Joint Consultative Council (JCC) for the Construction Industry President Winston Riley said yesterday that the potential for corruption in the Trinidad Rapid Rail Project (TRRP) is greater than that of corruption in the construction of the Piarco International Airport.....Francois said that several times the group has requested from the government transparency on the TRRP but to no avail. As their concerns have not been addressed by Government, he said, the group had no choice but to turn to the media."

a wait and see situation wrt this highway oui. but i bet a better case can be made for the highway


If this gubment say "jump" the media does reply "how high".

PNM used to get their blows and take it, since PP in power I donno why I have a suspicion that someone screening what is printed from what isnt.


bring facts!

jcc seems to be very critical of certain iconic projects. imagine how many people still actually want TRRP. and how many ppl benefit daily from airport proj.

are trini newspapers capable of disclosing info on orgs (eg by whom are they paid) that supposedly are more trustworthy than the govt of the day?

The main issues with these projects are value for money, transparency and efficiency in delivering works. Due to archaic procurement legislation there is little oversight and well we know how it goes from there. Airport, tarouba stadium etc

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Postby rfari » December 4th, 2012, 1:29 pm

Monster 101 wrote:Dr. Wayne Kublalsingh sets 3 conditions to ending his hunger strike:

1. Point 3 of framework must state clearly no construction on the Debe to Mon Desir section while the committee meets.

2. Cost benefit , social impact and hydrology reports to be included

3. The terms of reference must include provision for oral and written submission made to the committee by residents



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Afaik point one was agrees to by nidco, point two is a given and according to carson charles has been done already, point three im not too sure what he talking about. Is it the tor for the project itself or for the eia?

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Postby Habit7 » December 4th, 2012, 1:33 pm

Groups like the JCC will always cry corruption, especially today when it is such a great talking point. The same goes for political parties.

Where in the world major projects dont have a risk of corruption? Even in T&T where there is one degree of separation throughout the entire population.

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Postby rfari » December 4th, 2012, 1:52 pm

Habit7 wrote:Groups like the JCC will always cry corruption, especially today when it is such a great talking point. The same goes for political parties.

Where in the world major projects dont have a risk of corruption? Even in T&T where there is one degree of separation throughout the entire population.

Knowing the limitations of the central tenders board and the kind of authority given to entities like nidco, i dont blame the jcc for being skeptical. PP government started to look at proposals for legislative changes based on the white paper done in 2005-2006. Not sure of the status now

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Re: Wayne Kublalsingh Hunger Strike...

Postby mrtrini45 » December 4th, 2012, 1:56 pm

rfari wrote:
WetR wrote:
nervewrecker wrote:
WetR wrote:from 2006 newsday:

"Joint Consultative Council (JCC) for the Construction Industry President Winston Riley said yesterday that the potential for corruption in the Trinidad Rapid Rail Project (TRRP) is greater than that of corruption in the construction of the Piarco International Airport.....Francois said that several times the group has requested from the government transparency on the TRRP but to no avail. As their concerns have not been addressed by Government, he said, the group had no choice but to turn to the media."

a wait and see situation wrt this highway oui. but i bet a better case can be made for the highway


If this gubment say "jump" the media does reply "how high".

PNM used to get their blows and take it, since PP in power I donno why I have a suspicion that someone screening what is printed from what isnt.


bring facts!

jcc seems to be very critical of certain iconic projects. imagine how many people still actually want TRRP. and how many ppl benefit daily from airport proj.

are trini newspapers capable of disclosing info on orgs (eg by whom are they paid) that supposedly are more trustworthy than the govt of the day?

The main issues with these projects are value for money, transparency and efficiency in delivering works. Due to archaic procurement legislation there is little oversight and well we know how it goes from there. Airport, tarouba stadium etc


well why did you not ask maning to give you that info

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Postby nemisis » December 4th, 2012, 2:01 pm

^^^ that is the thinking that moves the country further into the gutter, bad was done so let it continue to happen.

people fail to realize that the last government was voted out because they were allowed to do what they wanted unopposed for too long. So supporters of new politics came out to demand such hence the pp being where they are.
Can't be vex if fari demanding answers for questions it's opposition duty to keep admin on their toes( who cares if he has an ulterior motive)

Party politics for the loss.
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Re: Wayne Kublalsingh Hunger Strike...

Postby rfari » December 4th, 2012, 2:06 pm

mrtrini45 wrote:
rfari wrote:
WetR wrote:
nervewrecker wrote:
WetR wrote:from 2006 newsday:

"Joint Consultative Council (JCC) for the Construction Industry President Winston Riley said yesterday that the potential for corruption in the Trinidad Rapid Rail Project (TRRP) is greater than that of corruption in the construction of the Piarco International Airport.....Francois said that several times the group has requested from the government transparency on the TRRP but to no avail. As their concerns have not been addressed by Government, he said, the group had no choice but to turn to the media."

a wait and see situation wrt this highway oui. but i bet a better case can be made for the highway


If this gubment say "jump" the media does reply "how high".

PNM used to get their blows and take it, since PP in power I donno why I have a suspicion that someone screening what is printed from what isnt.


bring facts!

jcc seems to be very critical of certain iconic projects. imagine how many people still actually want TRRP. and how many ppl benefit daily from airport proj.

are trini newspapers capable of disclosing info on orgs (eg by whom are they paid) that supposedly are more trustworthy than the govt of the day?

The main issues with these projects are value for money, transparency and efficiency in delivering works. Due to archaic procurement legislation there is little oversight and well we know how it goes from there. Airport, tarouba stadium etc


well why did you not ask maning to give you that info

Yeah? Hehehe. Woulda tell u something eh but ched woulda tunup and then geh locked.:lol::lol::lol:

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Postby Habit7 » December 4th, 2012, 2:13 pm

Its sad that of those who support this project, including myself, that the UNC supporters see anyone who has a critical word about this project as "an East West Corridor PNM that just want to bring down our gov't and the PM we love!"

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Postby Sky » December 4th, 2012, 2:36 pm

mrtrini45 wrote:well why did you not ask maning to give you that info


He didn't provide it so I voted him out.
Apparently we voted for the same behaviour again.
I honestly can't think of something bad enough to describe you. Congrats on tying your shoelace this morning though.

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Postby rfari » December 4th, 2012, 2:51 pm

Habit7 wrote:Its sad that of those who support this project, including myself, that the UNC supporters see anyone who has a critical word about this project as "an East West Corridor PNM that just want to bring down our gov't and the PM we love!"

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Why does she always have this bummy look on her face? It's like she's afraid of something or someone

Sky wrote:
mrtrini45 wrote:well why did you not ask maning to give you that info


He didn't provide it so I voted him out.
Apparently we voted for the same behaviour again.
I honestly can't think of something bad enough to describe you. Congrats on tying your shoelace this morning though.

Bwahhhahaaahhahahaaahha!!!!!

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Postby rfari » December 4th, 2012, 3:05 pm

nemisis wrote:^^^ that is the thinking that moves the country further into the gutter, bad was done so let it continue to happen.

people fail to realize that the last government was voted out because they were allowed to do what they wanted unopposed for too long. So supporters of new politics came out to demand such hence the pp being where they are.
Can't be vex if fari demanding answers for questions it's opposition duty to keep admin on their toes( who cares if he has an ulterior motive)

Party politics for the loss.

Well said. This will surely fly over many heads

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Postby noshownogo » December 4th, 2012, 3:09 pm

:rofl: Sky call the man Corky in smart oui

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Postby toyolink » December 4th, 2012, 3:29 pm

I took a few minutes to contemplate Mr Kublalsingh's mental state and understand that an individual in his present condition can find himself in a state where his reasoning ability is so impaired that suicide for a cause appears attractive.
Actually the demands being made have become so 'huge' that the possibility of these being met go to the heart of the values and attitudes of our national community and require a transformation of our culture and even changes in our constitution and judicial systems.
No one can find fault with his now lofy pronouncements but the ultimatum placed at the feet of all of us is truly unacceptable.
If this man dies the whole country would be branded as his executioners.
Personaly,the time has come for action to protect this 'too bright' individual from himself and this act of self murder dealt with as a civilised society should.
....Interlectual overload can easily push one to madness!

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Postby kurpal_v2 » December 4th, 2012, 3:48 pm

WetR wrote:
nervewrecker wrote:
WetR wrote:from 2006 newsday:

"Joint Consultative Council (JCC) for the Construction Industry President Winston Riley said yesterday that the potential for corruption in the Trinidad Rapid Rail Project (TRRP) is greater than that of corruption in the construction of the Piarco International Airport.....Francois said that several times the group has requested from the government transparency on the TRRP but to no avail. As their concerns have not been addressed by Government, he said, the group had no choice but to turn to the media."

a wait and see situation wrt this highway oui. but i bet a better case can be made for the highway


If this gubment say "jump" the media does reply "how high".

PNM used to get their blows and take it, since PP in power I donno why I have a suspicion that someone screening what is printed from what isnt.


bring facts!

jcc seems to be very critical of certain iconic projects. imagine how many people still actually want TRRP. and how many ppl benefit daily from airport proj.

are trini newspapers capable of disclosing info on orgs (eg by whom are they paid) that supposedly are more trustworthy than the govt of the day?




Actually.... If you look at the jcc board you would find the background of some of the members answers your questions, search amounst the ex-journalists.

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Postby gastly369 » December 4th, 2012, 3:51 pm

ayeeee page fiddy ..

*warming up engine to jive on new highway*

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Postby bluestarz9 » December 4th, 2012, 4:16 pm

hes not going to force the hand of a Prime Minister by this action, its sad that he will die if he chooses to continue and his followers continues to support his present action.

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Postby pyromaniax » December 4th, 2012, 6:08 pm

not sure if repost


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Postby pyung99 » December 4th, 2012, 6:32 pm

independent review sounding more like a "make work" exercise to me.

especially with a 2month deadline, sounds like eat a food! but who is doing the feeding?!

why can't we simply implement projects fellow trinis?

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