Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

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YOUR BODY, YOUR CHOICE

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Some businesses don't care about vax pass and want the vax pass to be business controlled and not mandated, with 32 percent vaxxed they already seeing the losses being incurred

Whatever their reasons, respect their choice they are entitled to make their choice, same as you were

You mad at ppl who value your body, your choice? You made your choice to vaccinated , all well and fine but don't ridicule others if they are against such

Fact of the matter is , if it's really about saving lives , politics shouldn't matter....even north Korea was offered vaccines so trying to understand your logic

North Korea rejected 3 million vaccines by one of their very few allies
Why on earth would you believe that Cuba, a decided non-ally of the US, would accept vaccines from them?
Saving lives? Here we have vaccines coming out of the wazoo, but because of a few misguided, "special" souls, only have 32% vaccinated

Not really, when their choice is made for the right reasons like allergies, religious affiliation etc, not attention whoring trollism.

and they also have to respect business's or Govt's choice not to admit them to certain places i.e. bars, in house dining, etc.

[redmanjp]

Some businesses don't care about vax pass and want the vax pass to be business controlled and not mandated, with 32 percent vaxxed they already seeing the losses being incurred

Whatever their reasons, respect their choice they are entitled to make their choice, same as you were

You mad at ppl who value your body, your choice? You made your choice to vaccinated , all well and fine but don't ridicule others if they are against such

Fact of the matter is , if it's really about saving lives , politics shouldn't matter....even north Korea was offered vaccines so trying to understand your logic

North Korea rejected 3 million vaccines by one of their very few allies
Why on earth would you believe that Cuba, a decided non-ally of the US, would accept vaccines from them?
Saving lives? Here we have vaccines coming out of the wazoo, but because of a few misguided, "special" souls, only have 32% vaccinated

Not really, when their choice is made for the right reasons like allergies, religious affiliation etc, not attention whoring trollism.

and they also have to respect business's or Govt's choice not to admit them to certain places i.e. bars, in house dining, etc.

all the ones the govt mandating it for are already closed- this will actually allow them to open !

[MaxPower]

Your body your choice , hover out.

True, but when your body endangers the lives of others then we have a problem.

Nothing wrong with gently grasping you by your neck like a chicken and gracefully vaccinating you.

Get vaccinated Jason, or else.

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No max , no vaccine

Your body your choice , hover out.

True, but when your body endangers the lives of others then we have a problem.

Nothing wrong with gently grasping you by your neck like a chicken and gracefully vaccinating you.

Get vaccinated Jason, or else.

[redmanjp]

Some businesses don't care about vax pass and want the vax pass to be business controlled and not mandated, with 32 percent vaxxed they already seeing the losses being incurred

Whatever their reasons, respect their choice they are entitled to make their choice, same as you were

You mad at ppl who value your body, your choice? You made your choice to vaccinated , all well and fine but don't ridicule others if they are against such

Fact of the matter is , if it's really about saving lives , politics shouldn't matter....even north Korea was offered vaccines so trying to understand your logic

North Korea rejected 3 million vaccines by one of their very few allies
Why on earth would you believe that Cuba, a decided non-ally of the US, would accept vaccines from them?
Saving lives? Here we have vaccines coming out of the wazoo, but because of a few misguided, "special" souls, only have 32% vaccinated

Not really, when their choice is made for the right reasons like allergies, religious affiliation etc, not attention whoring trollism.

and they also have to respect business's or Govt's choice not to admit them to certain places i.e. bars, in house dining, etc.

all the ones the govt mandating it for are already closed- this will actually allow them to open !

here's how it should work:

cinemas, bars, indoor dining, gyms- vaxxed only (govt mandate)
non-essentials: businesses can opt in to use the vax pass, but in the event of a huge increase in cases/deaths, govt can mandate it - this can avoid the alternative which is yet another lockdown of these businesses
essentials: available to all- not allowed to opt in

so u see i am being fair to the unvaxxed- u cud still get yuh groceries

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Whatever their reasons, respect their choice they are entitled to make their choice, same as you were

You mad at ppl who value your body, your choice? You made your choice to vaccinated , all well and fine but don't ridicule others if they are against such

Fact of the matter is , if it's really about saving lives , politics shouldn't matter....even north Korea was offered vaccines so trying to understand your logic

North Korea rejected 3 million vaccines by one of their very few allies
Why on earth would you believe that Cuba, a decided non-ally of the US, would accept vaccines from them?
Saving lives? Here we have vaccines coming out of the wazoo, but because of a few misguided, "special" souls, only have 32% vaccinated

Not really, when their choice is made for the right reasons like allergies, religious affiliation etc, not attention whoring trollism.

Stupidity isn't a valid reason

but this leg-opening-for-attn fella doh respect the choices vaccinated people made and only fighting them down and discouraging others from getting vaxxed as if he's some superior genius free thinker....

you are doing exactly what you are blaming others to be doing, and that is what you call projection. seek psychological help -- you are a toxic ass person with govt wok, data plan, and nonproductive time on yuh hands

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Some businesses don't care about vax pass and want the vax pass to be business controlled and not mandated, with 32 percent vaxxed they already seeing the losses being incurred

Whatever their reasons, respect their choice they are entitled to make their choice, same as you were

You mad at ppl who value your body, your choice? You made your choice to vaccinated , all well and fine but don't ridicule others if they are against such

North Korea rejected 3 million vaccines by one of their very few allies
Why on earth would you believe that Cuba, a decided non-ally of the US, would accept vaccines from them?
Saving lives? Here we have vaccines coming out of the wazoo, but because of a few misguided, "special" souls, only have 32% vaccinated

Not really, when their choice is made for the right reasons like allergies, religious affiliation etc, not attention whoring trollism.

and they also have to respect business's or Govt's choice not to admit them to certain places i.e. bars, in house dining, etc.

all the ones the govt mandating it for are already closed- this will actually allow them to open !

here's how it should work:

cinemas, bars, indoor dining, gyms- vaxxed only (govt mandate)
non-essentials: businesses can opt in to use the vax pass, but in the event of a huge increase in cases/deaths, govt can mandate it - this can avoid the alternative which is yet another lockdown of these businesses
essentials: available to all- not allowed to opt in

i want to see where hover seeing these losses happening. he calling stats without evidence as per usual just to 'prove he smart'

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Not disagreeing with “your body, your choice”.
The question is why make a choice not to vaccinate when the data overwhelmingly shows vaccination is the better choice.

Masks, handwashing, social distancing and vaccination are all layers of protection. You don’t stop doing one if you do the other. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

[adnj]

No max , no vaccine

Your body your choice , hover out.

True, but when your body endangers the lives of others then we have a problem.

Nothing wrong with gently grasping you by your neck like a chicken and gracefully vaccinating you.

Get vaccinated Jason, or else.

[Mmoney607]

The true anti vaxxers are coming out now. If you all believe in the vaccine so much, why you afraid of the unvaccinated. Your beloved vaccine is supposed to protect.

[De Dragon]

Not disagreeing with “your body, your choice”.
The question is why make a choice not to vaccinate when the data overwhelmingly shows vaccination is the better choice.

Masks, handwashing, social distancing and vaccination are all layers of protection. You don’t stop doing one if you do the other. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

You'd think so, then read the special ones here who don't

[st7]

The true anti vaxxers are coming out now. If you all believe in the vaccine so much, why you afraid of the unvaccinated. Your beloved vaccine is supposed to protect.

why do you and hover keep asking the same questions repeatedly? are you looking for a different answer to what was stated multiple times or you just like skinning yuh leg open?

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The thing about it is people will always be skeptical, that's human nature we don't like change, the more you try force things on some people the more they reject or rebel against it. My question to you is why can't the vaccinated and unvaccinated Co exist, there are still many workplaces where this is occurring , no employer has 100 percent vaxxed staff, schools are still online learning however eventually when they realize it is unsustainable they will have to resume face to face and allow the unvaccinated to co exist with the vaccinated.

Not disagreeing with “your body, your choice”.
The question is why make a choice not to vaccinate when the data overwhelmingly shows vaccination is the better choice.

Masks, handwashing, social distancing and vaccination are all layers of protection. You don’t stop doing one if you do the other. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

[Dohplaydat]

The thing about it is people will always be skeptical, that's human nature we don't like change, the more you try force things on some people the more they reject or rebel against it. My question to you is why can't the vaccinated and unvaccinated Co exist, there are still many workplaces where this is occurring , no employer has 100 percent vaxxed staff, schools are still online learning however eventually when they realize it is unsustainable they will have to resume face to face and allow the unvaccinated to co exist with the vaccinated.

Not disagreeing with “your body, your choice”.
The question is why make a choice not to vaccinate when the data overwhelmingly shows vaccination is the better choice.

Masks, handwashing, social distancing and vaccination are all layers of protection. You don’t stop doing one if you do the other. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

Because you all will overflow hospitals and mess things up for everyone. The deaths attributed to lack of health care availability will be greater than covid.

Basically we CANNOT go back to normal if a sizeable segment wants to remain unvaccinated.

Your eventuality can't happen unless you prolong restrictions for years.

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BECAUSE UNVAXXED PPL CARRY MUCH HIGHER VIRAL LOADS OF THE COVID-19 STRAINS CURRENTLY EXISTING IN TRINIDAD AND HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF INFECTING PEOPLE COMPARED TO THOSE WHO ARE VACCINATED.

aye... these mba in ba people dotish for days.

inb4 'wElL vAxXeD pPl sTiLl gEt CoViD aNd SpReAd It'

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Alright stupid question we are currently at 32 percent fully vaxxed last time I checked, if it plateaus let's say at 39 what are you going to do , you can't force people at the end of the day. Let me guess mandatory vaccinations, if the people don't want to make them right?

The thing about it is people will always be skeptical, that's human nature we don't like change, the more you try force things on some people the more they reject or rebel against it. My question to you is why can't the vaccinated and unvaccinated Co exist, there are still many workplaces where this is occurring , no employer has 100 percent vaxxed staff, schools are still online learning however eventually when they realize it is unsustainable they will have to resume face to face and allow the unvaccinated to co exist with the vaccinated.

Not disagreeing with “your body, your choice”.
The question is why make a choice not to vaccinate when the data overwhelmingly shows vaccination is the better choice.

Masks, handwashing, social distancing and vaccination are all layers of protection. You don’t stop doing one if you do the other. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

Because you all will overflow hospitals and mess things up for everyone. The deaths attributed to lack of health care availability will be greater than covid.

Basically we CANNOT go back to normal if a sizeable segment wants to remain unvaccinated.

Your eventuality can't happen unless you prolong restrictions for years.

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Where is that shown sir , these doctors Cleary refute your point

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... s-of-virus

Delta infection: Unvaccinated and vaccinated people have similar levels of virus

BECAUSE UNVAXXED PPL CARRY MUCH HIGHER VIRAL LOADS OF THE COVID-19 STRAINS CURRENTLY EXISTING IN TRINIDAD AND HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF INFECTING PEOPLE COMPARED TO THOSE WHO ARE VACCINATED.

aye... these mba in ba people dotish for days.

inb4 'wElL vAxXeD pPl sTiLl gEt CoViD aNd SpReAd It'

[st7]

has delta been reported as a widespread strain in trinidad and tobago?

and your link ONLY refers to one strain - DELTA.

you dotish on purpose i see.

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You tryna be technical yes .....it would be the same across the board just the strain changed.....with your logic certain vaccines shouldn't work with gamma but will work against delta

has delta been reported as a widespread strain in trinidad and tobago?

[redmanjp]

The true anti vaxxers are coming out now. If you all believe in the vaccine so much, why you afraid of the unvaccinated. Your beloved vaccine is supposed to protect.

Let's see:

1) some people can't take the vaccine for medical reasons e.g. allergies
2) some vaccinated people maybe immunocompromised and may not generate enough antibodies to be protected
3) the uncontrolled spread among the unvaxxed can cause new variants to emerge which can be resistant to vaccines- it will be like a brand new pandemic where no one is immune
4) if a vaxxed person is exposed to an infected person they will still have to quarantine- right now we have 3866 active cases, but we could have like 38660 others who have to quarantine as contacts of those cases, if we assume an average of 10 contacts per case. and that's being conservative as some ppl have had over 100! that's tens of thousands of people's lives being inconvenienced every day, which also affects businesses as their employees are absent for 2 weeks.
5) while unvaxxed are filling hospitals it can take away medical care from other non-covid patients who can die
6) some of our own families may be vaccine hesitant (70% of the population still isn't fully vaxxed) and while we are trying to convince them to get the vax may get infected by another unvaxxed person
7) young children under 12 including babies cant get vaccinated and thus depend upon everyone else they come into contact with who can get it to get it, some of these children are probably in hospital right now with covid
life as normal- all businesses open, having family gatherings, parties, carnival, etc. cannot resume unless most ppl get vaccinated

anyone else feel free to add to this list

[st7]

You tryna be technical yes .....it would be the same across the board just strain changed.....with your logic certain vaccines shouldn't work with gamma but will work against delta

has delta been reported as a widespread strain in trinidad and tobago?

but that is what my original post was about - TnT!! ent you is the one who say 'sToP ComPaRiNg tRiNiDaD tO tHe StAtEs' ?

you clearly cannot understand or read... no wonder you are so ignorant. keep shifting them goalposts.

adnj -- i ready for yuh next meme

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Number 3...question: last year we had no vaccines, we were raging in the pandemic how come trinidad didn't have it's own variant, what occured?

The true anti vaxxers are coming out now. If you all believe in the vaccine so much, why you afraid of the unvaccinated. Your beloved vaccine is supposed to protect.

Let's see:

1) some people can't take the vaccine for medical reasons e.g. allergies
2) some vaccinated people maybe immunocompromised and may not generate enough antibodies to be protected
3) the uncontrolled spread among the unvaxxed can cause new variants to emerge which can be resistant to vaccines- it will be like a brand new pandemic where no one is immune
4) if a vaxxed person is exposed to an infected person they will still have to quarantine- right now we have 3866 active cases, but we could have like 38660 others who have to quarantine as contacts of those cases, if we assume an average of 10 contacts per case. and that's being conservative as some ppl have had over 100! that's tens of thousands of people's lives being inconvenienced every day, which also affects businesses as their employees are absent for 2 weeks.
5) while unvaxxed are filling hospitals it can take away medical care from other non-covid patients who can die
6) some of our own families may be vaccine hesitant (70% of the population still isn't fully vaxxed) and while we are trying to convince them to get the vax may get infected by another unvaxxed person
7) young children under 12 including babies cant get vaccinated and thus depend upon everyone else they come into contact with who can get it to get it, some of these children are probably in hospital right now with covid

anyone else feel free to add to this list

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Adnj tell your friend that vaccinated and unvaccinated persons share the same viral load in ALL variants thanks

You tryna be technical yes .....it would be the same across the board just strain changed.....with your logic certain vaccines shouldn't work with gamma but will work against delta

has delta been reported as a widespread strain in trinidad and tobago?

but that is what my original post was about - TnT!! ent you is the one who say 'sToP ComPaRiNg tRiNiDaD tO tHe StAtEs' ?

you clearly cannot understand or read... no wonder you are so ignorant. keep shifting them goalposts.

adnj -- i ready for yuh next meme

[st7]

Adnj tell your friend that vaccinated and unvaccinated persons share the same viral load in ALL variants thanks

You tryna be technical yes .....it would be the same across the board just strain changed.....with your logic certain vaccines shouldn't work with gamma but will work against delta

has delta been reported as a widespread strain in trinidad and tobago?

but that is what my original post was about - TnT!! ent you is the one who say 'sToP ComPaRiNg tRiNiDaD tO tHe StAtEs' ?

you clearly cannot understand or read... no wonder you are so ignorant. keep shifting them goalposts.

adnj -- i ready for yuh next meme

your source?

[Dohplaydat]

Adnj tell your friend that vaccinated and unvaccinated persons share the same viral load in ALL variants thanks

You tryna be technical yes .....it would be the same across the board just strain changed.....with your logic certain vaccines shouldn't work with gamma but will work against delta

has delta been reported as a widespread strain in trinidad and tobago?

but that is what my original post was about - TnT!! ent you is the one who say 'sToP ComPaRiNg tRiNiDaD tO tHe StAtEs' ?

you clearly cannot understand or read... no wonder you are so ignorant. keep shifting them goalposts.

adnj -- i ready for yuh next meme

your source?

The viral loads are the same ONLY in breakthrough cases.

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Hmmm

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Which were once thought to be rare and are now an everyday occurrence

Adnj tell your friend that vaccinated and unvaccinated persons share the same viral load in ALL variants thanks

You tryna be technical yes .....it would be the same across the board just strain changed.....with your logic certain vaccines shouldn't work with gamma but will work against delta

has delta been reported as a widespread strain in trinidad and tobago?

but that is what my original post was about - TnT!! ent you is the one who say 'sToP ComPaRiNg tRiNiDaD tO tHe StAtEs' ?

you clearly cannot understand or read... no wonder you are so ignorant. keep shifting them goalposts.

adnj -- i ready for yuh next meme

your source?

The viral loads are the same ONLY in breakthrough cases.

[st7]

he posted a link showing Delta alone being the variant where viral loads are the same for everyone... idk if he thinks delta refers to all variants...

i really dont know with this fella who like to skin he leg oui

[st7]

Hmmmunnamed.jpg

if u understood anything u posted there, please explain to us dumb folk thanks