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hover11 wrote:Why can't we get a detailed breakdown of what are exactly in these vaccines ?
Wraith King wrote:hover11 wrote:Why can't we get a detailed breakdown of what are exactly in these vaccines ?
Maybe you can ask the organisation responsible for halal certification as they have certified the vaccine as being halal so they must be aware of its components.
hover11 wrote:Let's be real thats just to encourage the religious folk to accept it and not resist, not one of these manufacturers have openly disclosed the full make up of their vaccinesWraith King wrote:hover11 wrote:Why can't we get a detailed breakdown of what are exactly in these vaccines ?
Maybe you can ask the organisation responsible for halal certification as they have certified the vaccine as being halal so they must be aware of its components.
bluefete wrote:Taking bets: Some of this will end up in T&T!!!!!!!!!
60M J&J COVID vaccines reportedly being trashed at troubled plant
By Lee BrownJune 11, 2021 | 2:02pm | Updated
About 60 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine are getting trashed because of possible contamination at a troubled Baltimore plant, according to reports Friday.
The vaccines were manufactured at the Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, which was forced to halt operations in April after an ingredient mixup caused 15 million of the one-dose J&J shot to be destroyed.
Roughly 100 million doses were then set aside for testing at the factory, which produces both the J&J shot as well as the one by Pfizer, sources told the Associated Press.
The Food and Drug Administration announced Friday it was giving emergency use authorization for just two batches of the J&J drug so far — which the AP said was about 10 million shots.
Other batches are still under review, the FDA said.
About 60 million doses of J&J’s COVID-19 vaccines are getting trashed.
AP
Meanwhile, the FDA determined “several other batches are not suitable for use,” the federal agency said — with sources telling the New York Times that it amounted to about 60 million shots.
“These actions followed an extensive review of records, including the production history of the facility and the testing performed to evaluate the quality of the product,” said Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.
Security camera footage showed employees carelessly handling vaccine materials, the AP said.
The inspectors also reported unsanitary conditions and poorly trained employees.
The FDA said it was allowing the batches to be used “based on this review and considering the current COVID-19 public health emergency.”
However, the doses will carry a warning that regulators cannot guarantee that Emergent BioSolutions followed good manufacturing practices, the Times said.
The Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, was already forced to halt operations in April after 15 million of the J&J shots had to be destroyed due to an ingredient mixup.
Getty Images
The FDA also announced it was extending the shelf life of J&J COVID-19 vaccines from three months to four-and-a-half months, amid fears over millions of doses that are set to expire this month.
“The action to extend the shelf life for the refrigerated [J&J] vaccine means that jurisdictions that have doses on hand now have additional time to administer vaccine,” Marks said.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/11/60m-jj-co ... g-trashed/
bluefete wrote:Taking bets: Some of this will end up in T&T!!!!!!!!!
60M J&J COVID vaccines reportedly being trashed at troubled plant
By Lee BrownJune 11, 2021 | 2:02pm | Updated
About 60 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine are getting trashed because of possible contamination at a troubled Baltimore plant, according to reports Friday.
The vaccines were manufactured at the Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, which was forced to halt operations in April after an ingredient mixup caused 15 million of the one-dose J&J shot to be destroyed.
Roughly 100 million doses were then set aside for testing at the factory, which produces both the J&J shot as well as the one by Pfizer, sources told the Associated Press.
The Food and Drug Administration announced Friday it was giving emergency use authorization for just two batches of the J&J drug so far — which the AP said was about 10 million shots.
Other batches are still under review, the FDA said.
About 60 million doses of J&J’s COVID-19 vaccines are getting trashed.
AP
Meanwhile, the FDA determined “several other batches are not suitable for use,” the federal agency said — with sources telling the New York Times that it amounted to about 60 million shots.
“These actions followed an extensive review of records, including the production history of the facility and the testing performed to evaluate the quality of the product,” said Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.
Security camera footage showed employees carelessly handling vaccine materials, the AP said.
The inspectors also reported unsanitary conditions and poorly trained employees.
The FDA said it was allowing the batches to be used “based on this review and considering the current COVID-19 public health emergency.”
However, the doses will carry a warning that regulators cannot guarantee that Emergent BioSolutions followed good manufacturing practices, the Times said.
The Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, was already forced to halt operations in April after 15 million of the J&J shots had to be destroyed due to an ingredient mixup.
Getty Images
The FDA also announced it was extending the shelf life of J&J COVID-19 vaccines from three months to four-and-a-half months, amid fears over millions of doses that are set to expire this month.
“The action to extend the shelf life for the refrigerated [J&J] vaccine means that jurisdictions that have doses on hand now have additional time to administer vaccine,” Marks said.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/11/60m-jj-co ... g-trashed/
redmanjp wrote:So we can get vaccine that is both past its shelf life AND possibly contaminated?
Is WHO going to approve it?
Tell me we getting some Pfizer and Moderna too.
bluefete wrote:Shakes - Normally, you and I are on the same page but I have to disagree with you on this.
I had a very interesting talk with a doctor today who stated that even in the medical field there is wide disagreement with the various vaccines.
Remember that this is all about Economics and Politics.
The Sinopharm uses ingredients that we all are accustomed to - that is - was used in measles, mumps, rubella. So it is a vastly proven vaccine.
The others - Moderna, Pfizer and so on use MRNA which, allegedly, alters your dna to fight the virus. MRNA is relatively new and has been around for about 20 -30 years.
Bottom line though is to take any vaccine you can get.
Take a read:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the ... cine-race/
I have a real interesting post coming up next.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That sinopharm looking like real failure..take a look at
Mongolia
Saudi arabia
Chile
Phillipines
Seychelles
Bahrain
List goes on
bluefete wrote:Taking bets: Some of this will end up in T&T!!!!!!!!!
60M J&J COVID vaccines reportedly being trashed at troubled plant
By Lee BrownJune 11, 2021 | 2:02pm | Updated
About 60 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine are getting trashed because of possible contamination at a troubled Baltimore plant, according to reports Friday.
The vaccines were manufactured at the Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, which was forced to halt operations in April after an ingredient mixup caused 15 million of the one-dose J&J shot to be destroyed.
Roughly 100 million doses were then set aside for testing at the factory, which produces both the J&J shot as well as the one by Pfizer, sources told the Associated Press.
The Food and Drug Administration announced Friday it was giving emergency use authorization for just two batches of the J&J drug so far — which the AP said was about 10 million shots.
Other batches are still under review, the FDA said.
About 60 million doses of J&J’s COVID-19 vaccines are getting trashed.
AP
Meanwhile, the FDA determined “several other batches are not suitable for use,” the federal agency said — with sources telling the New York Times that it amounted to about 60 million shots.
“These actions followed an extensive review of records, including the production history of the facility and the testing performed to evaluate the quality of the product,” said Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.
Security camera footage showed employees carelessly handling vaccine materials, the AP said.
The inspectors also reported unsanitary conditions and poorly trained employees.
The FDA said it was allowing the batches to be used “based on this review and considering the current COVID-19 public health emergency.”
However, the doses will carry a warning that regulators cannot guarantee that Emergent BioSolutions followed good manufacturing practices, the Times said.
The Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, was already forced to halt operations in April after 15 million of the J&J shots had to be destroyed due to an ingredient mixup.
Getty Images
The FDA also announced it was extending the shelf life of J&J COVID-19 vaccines from three months to four-and-a-half months, amid fears over millions of doses that are set to expire this month.
“The action to extend the shelf life for the refrigerated [J&J] vaccine means that jurisdictions that have doses on hand now have additional time to administer vaccine,” Marks said.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/11/60m-jj-co ... g-trashed/
Dohplaydat wrote:bluefete wrote:Taking bets: Some of this will end up in T&T!!!!!!!!!
60M J&J COVID vaccines reportedly being trashed at troubled plant
By Lee BrownJune 11, 2021 | 2:02pm | Updated
About 60 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine are getting trashed because of possible contamination at a troubled Baltimore plant, according to reports Friday.
The vaccines were manufactured at the Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, which was forced to halt operations in April after an ingredient mixup caused 15 million of the one-dose J&J shot to be destroyed.
Roughly 100 million doses were then set aside for testing at the factory, which produces both the J&J shot as well as the one by Pfizer, sources told the Associated Press.
The Food and Drug Administration announced Friday it was giving emergency use authorization for just two batches of the J&J drug so far — which the AP said was about 10 million shots.
Other batches are still under review, the FDA said.
About 60 million doses of J&J’s COVID-19 vaccines are getting trashed.
AP
Meanwhile, the FDA determined “several other batches are not suitable for use,” the federal agency said — with sources telling the New York Times that it amounted to about 60 million shots.
“These actions followed an extensive review of records, including the production history of the facility and the testing performed to evaluate the quality of the product,” said Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.
Security camera footage showed employees carelessly handling vaccine materials, the AP said.
The inspectors also reported unsanitary conditions and poorly trained employees.
The FDA said it was allowing the batches to be used “based on this review and considering the current COVID-19 public health emergency.”
However, the doses will carry a warning that regulators cannot guarantee that Emergent BioSolutions followed good manufacturing practices, the Times said.
The Emergent BioSolutions factory, known as Bayview, was already forced to halt operations in April after 15 million of the J&J shots had to be destroyed due to an ingredient mixup.
Getty Images
The FDA also announced it was extending the shelf life of J&J COVID-19 vaccines from three months to four-and-a-half months, amid fears over millions of doses that are set to expire this month.
“The action to extend the shelf life for the refrigerated [J&J] vaccine means that jurisdictions that have doses on hand now have additional time to administer vaccine,” Marks said.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/11/60m-jj-co ... g-trashed/
Just wanna throw this out there that if this ever happened at a Sinopharm plant we'd never know.
sMASH wrote:this is MY problem with the chineese products. it might be great on paper, but the quality control and the honesty of the chinese is practically nil in my books to be taking an injection from them.
that facility, is that the same one that made the faulty american az that not getting fda approval ?
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:bluefete wrote:Shakes - Normally, you and I are on the same page but I have to disagree with you on this.
I had a very interesting talk with a doctor today who stated that even in the medical field there is wide disagreement with the various vaccines.
Remember that this is all about Economics and Politics.
The Sinopharm uses ingredients that we all are accustomed to - that is - was used in measles, mumps, rubella. So it is a vastly proven vaccine.
The others - Moderna, Pfizer and so on use MRNA which, allegedly, alters your dna to fight the virus. MRNA is relatively new and has been around for about 20 -30 years.
Bottom line though is to take any vaccine you can get.
Take a read:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the ... cine-race/
I have a real interesting post coming up next.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That sinopharm looking like real failure..take a look at
Mongolia
Saudi arabia
Chile
Phillipines
Seychelles
Bahrain
List goes on
My comments are based on the report I looked at concerning sinopharm. Countries listed above are questioning the product as we speak...Id find the link and drop it.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:bluefete wrote:Shakes - Normally, you and I are on the same page but I have to disagree with you on this.
I had a very interesting talk with a doctor today who stated that even in the medical field there is wide disagreement with the various vaccines.
Remember that this is all about Economics and Politics.
The Sinopharm uses ingredients that we all are accustomed to - that is - was used in measles, mumps, rubella. So it is a vastly proven vaccine.
The others - Moderna, Pfizer and so on use MRNA which, allegedly, alters your dna to fight the virus. MRNA is relatively new and has been around for about 20 -30 years.
Bottom line though is to take any vaccine you can get.
Take a read:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the ... cine-race/
I have a real interesting post coming up next.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That sinopharm looking like real failure..take a look at
Mongolia
Saudi arabia
Chile
Phillipines
Seychelles
Bahrain
List goes on
My comments are based on the report I looked at concerning sinopharm. Countries listed above are questioning the product as we speak...Id find the link and drop it.
https://www.facebook.com/WIONews/videos ... 683755310/
Take a listen
Penguin wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:bluefete wrote:Shakes - Normally, you and I are on the same page but I have to disagree with you on this.
I had a very interesting talk with a doctor today who stated that even in the medical field there is wide disagreement with the various vaccines.
Remember that this is all about Economics and Politics.
The Sinopharm uses ingredients that we all are accustomed to - that is - was used in measles, mumps, rubella. So it is a vastly proven vaccine.
The others - Moderna, Pfizer and so on use MRNA which, allegedly, alters your dna to fight the virus. MRNA is relatively new and has been around for about 20 -30 years.
Bottom line though is to take any vaccine you can get.
Take a read:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the ... cine-race/
I have a real interesting post coming up next.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:That sinopharm looking like real failure..take a look at
Mongolia
Saudi arabia
Chile
Phillipines
Seychelles
Bahrain
List goes on
My comments are based on the report I looked at concerning sinopharm. Countries listed above are questioning the product as we speak...Id find the link and drop it.
https://www.facebook.com/WIONews/videos ... 683755310/
Take a listen
I'm extremely pro vax now, but i not taking Sinopharm because it's pointless. I want to not be able to spread the virus if contracted, which Pfizer, Moderna and even AZ and J&J seem to reduce significantly.
This vaccine seems like a global scam and some reports say it doesn't work well at all for people over 60.
I want a vaccine for my parents that protects them properly and doesn't allow me to spread it to them.
Phone Surgeon wrote:can't you take multiple vaccines though?
Like all we could get right now is sinopharm ...so we should take it as it offers some protection rather than none.
and down the line if you want you could take pfizer or moderna if it available
but you could wait until them thing reach and you could get covid and die in the meantime
PNM - The People's National Movement
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T&T gets 13,500 more vaccines from Grenada, SVG!
Trinidad and Tobago has received two other donations of COVID-19 vaccines, from Grenada and St Vincent and the Grenadines.
Yesterday a Trinidad and Tobago Air Guard Fixed Wing Squadron aircraft transported 8,000 doses of AstraZeneca vaccines from Grenada and 5,500 AstraZeneca vaccines from St Vincent and the Grenadines.
paid_influencer wrote:CNC3 have a segment on now about a MFO survey on vaccine willingness in the population.
240,000 are 'vaccine advocates'
370,000 are unsure
400,000 are reluctants
The vaccines advocates have stable income and see their immediate financial future as 'positive'. The vaccine reluctants do not have stable income and have no job security and basically sufferers.
MFO chairman vex that the MoH didn't check the data before deciding on the walk-in process. We ent vaccinate that first 240,000 people who would be rushing for the vaccine.
The MFO say we need to have influencers who can be trusted. We can't be buffing people. It can't be a government effort, we need different people to be the voices.
Europe's drug regulator on Friday identified another very rare blood condition as a potential side effect of AstraZeneca's (AZN.L) COVID-19 vaccine and said it was looking into cases of heart inflammation after inoculation with all coronavirus shots.
The European Medicines Agency's (EMA) safety committee said that capillary leak syndrome (CLS) must be added as a new side effect to labelling on AstraZeneca's vaccine, known as Vaxzevria.
People who had previously sustained the condition, where fluids leak from the smallest blood vessels causing swelling and a drop in blood pressure, should not receive the shot, the EMA added.
The regulator first began looking into these cases in April and the recommendation adds to AstraZeneca's woes after its vaccine was associated with very rare and potentially lethal cases of blood clotting that come with a low platelet count
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The committee reviewed six validated cases of CLS in people, mostly women, who had received Vaxzevria, including one death. Three had a history of the condition.
More than 78 million Vaxzevria doses have been administered in the European Union, Liechtenstein, Iceland & Norway and Britain.
In a statement, AstraZeneca pointed to the extreme rarity of CLS cases, at less than 1 in 10 million vaccinated individuals..
A 5-day course of ivermectin resulted in an earlier clearance of the virus compared to placebo (p = 0.005), thus indicating that early intervention with this agent may limit viral replication within the host. In the 5-day ivermectin group, there was a significant drop in CRP and LDH by day 7, which are indicators of disease severity.
Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin.
Biodistribution of lipid nanoparticles which carry the mRNA show that the ovaries get the highest concentration. This turns the ovaries into a very large manufacturing plant to turn out toxic spike protein. Accumulation in the bone marrow is likely not good either. What are the long term implications of that?
paid_influencer wrote:terry say they have the capacity to order 1.5 million doses, but didn't finalize the order. apparently he doh want to say how much we really order until everything finalized. we might get the final number next hour or so tho. the loan say we have to spend a certain amount of it on chinese goods, so yes, we obligated to buy some vaccines based on getting the $200M US loan.
AstraZeneca not really coming in any big numbers again, afaik. Many other countries even Canada having problems sourcing it for second doses and turning to mixing vaccines (AZ 1st dose-->Pfizer 2nd dose) because of AZ production issues.
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