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kyhamil wrote:Hey guys... anywhere other than raj have the chemiclean or chemipure products
greenlime100 wrote:Nu image still located in pt lisas?
I know they moved from Philippine sometime last year
but don't have a clue where they went.
The biggest troubles come from in all be all claims like "Its gets all the nutrients for you!" and such like "You PH will be great all night" These are half truths, when you look into how algae works and remember its a living thing not a sponge you start to see the weaknesses and areas to avoid.
Now there is some room and uses for them, but you really need to look into how and what you are looking to achieve with them. If your going for nutrient export, they don't really remove a large amount, and due to their nature they promote more bacteria, and organics in a system. Which means you can end up with more suspended nutrients waiting to be released.
Now if your looking to buffer a heavy nutrient load, it can be setup to help, but its not the final solution. Also there is a perfect storm situation that ends up loading your rock with phosphates and in essence your tank goes algae invasion nuclear or crashes. While this not highly likely the threat is there, so knowing what to watch for and understanding algae is key.
I'm not a fan of a turf scrubber, simply as I have yet to see a system without a bunch of extra equipment really do well for a long time. The idea of harvesting to export is kind of the sales pitch but has its issues. Also I don't like the chem warfare aspect of algae in SPS systems, it weakens SPS coral health to varying degrees. This can mean little or it could open the door for STN RTN events or just general loss.
Organic Phosphates are converted to Inorganic phosphates at a rapid pace, this is done through pods but mostly through bacterial processing. Some pods are able to process inorganic phosphates as well as Organic, their waste is Inorganic. Now the rate of uptake (as in rate these materials can be pulled in and used) Algae's uptake rate of phosphates is slower then that of bacteria, where as pods are feeding directly from algae, as well as from the detritus created by bacteria and other living organisms in the tank.
Also consider that phosphates can be taken up by any organism it passes by, in the case of Calcium carbonate (our rocks in our tank) its literally a instant bound when it comes in contact with a opening site. This is the same material corals create, and is the same material their skeleton is made from. So you have more Phosphates in the system being pass back and forth the more likely the coral is going to get to many in the form of "food" (Which throws off the symbiotic balance the coral has with Zoox it contains) Also this increases the chance for the skeletons to bind to bind to many phosphates on their skeleton and becoming saturated. (Another bad situation for the coral)
Also to note Algae, releases Organic Phosphates, but also a few inorganic. But rather importantly algae is releasing Sucrose, Sugars ect. These are easy to access forms of Carbon. Much like carbon dosing, this triggers a faster rate of bacteria population growth. Coupled with the release of Organic phosphates food for the bacteria, its like throwing gas on a fire, but in this case its bacteria populations. While this seems okay, as populations climb and are in essence "nursing" off of Algae. They are more then likely neglecting their role in removing phosphates that end up binding to the Calcium Carbonate (Rocks, and Corals) simply since their is a buffet spread cranking out food and fuel for them aka algae. So if the rocks are not being purged of phosphates you slowly build up until they become hot spots for Algae to move into that spot, or worse.
So while the idea of more bacteria is better, its a slippery slope. The more you have the more "nutrients" they contain. Thus the more nutrients your system contains. So you have this building pile of nutrients trapped in organisms in your tank, most of which you cannot see. Now the life span of these organisms is rather short, so they die they break down and become detritus. So instead of managing a city of 2 million citizens you have 10 million thanks to algae. Now their lives are short so 10% die every day and new ones are born. So you from 200,000 dead hippy bacteria on your lawn day to day, to 1,000,000 Dead hippy bacteria on your lawn. Now consider If the food supply drops well they start to starve very fast so more and more start dying, well remember your weekly reducing the amount of algae in the system so the inorganic converter in this cycle has less conversion. Well now you have a food shortage, less organics and less carbon. More dead hippy bacteria start to die off.
kyhamil wrote:Damn honda... wth... mushroom overload. Lol
Im still sticking to fowlr yes...
I don't have the time or funds for corals
But nilice stuff
And where do you get your reading info... I like to read and research...
greenlime100 wrote:
Got it made, sand blasted, zinc primed, hi-build epoxy middle coat and topped with a polyurethane top coat. When I received it I coated it with my own Acrylic paint:
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