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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby zoom rader » May 9th, 2025, 8:49 pm

pugboy wrote:it still lies in the decision of whoever the commissioner is
is she admitting that she will issue a directive for them to expedite?
His decision will be challenged in courts

I encourage citizens not to take any BS

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby zoom rader » May 9th, 2025, 8:50 pm

alfa wrote:
pugboy wrote:it still lies in the decision of whoever the commissioner is
is she admitting that she will issue a directive for them to expedite?

Waiting to see if habit 7 go say that can't happen
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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby j.o.e » May 9th, 2025, 9:37 pm

Clean COC and a safe at home … I have that. What else I need ? Wife willing to give me the ok

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 9th, 2025, 9:50 pm

j.o.e wrote:Clean COC and a safe at home … I have that. What else I need ? Wife willing to give me the ok

Cops will ask to see your place, no fixed requirements but fenced property, cameras, lighting etc gives an impression of security. Then there's the mandatory medical, vision and psych evaluation.
They'll of course ask why you want the firearm and this is your time to impress. If you have been a victim of home invasion and have police report receipts, footage etc present this. For hunting or pest control have proof of same e.g hunting permits or land deed.
It's just like a job interview where you have to sell yourself and then they make a recommendation based on their findings which is sent to the COP.
Wait a couple weeks and see what ammendements they're making to the laws and then apply based on same but get your COC and forms 1 and 16 in the meantime (must get those from govt printery in Caroni)

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 9th, 2025, 9:52 pm

a recent coc
they expire after 6months

j.o.e wrote:Clean COC and a safe at home … I have that. What else I need ? Wife willing to give me the ok

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby redmanjp » May 9th, 2025, 10:55 pm

alfa wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Clean COC and a safe at home … I have that. What else I need ? Wife willing to give me the ok

Cops will ask to see your place, no fixed requirements but fenced property, cameras, lighting etc gives an impression of security. Then there's the mandatory medical, vision and psych evaluation.
They'll of course ask why you want the firearm and this is your time to impress. If you have been a victim of home invasion and have police report receipts, footage etc present this. For hunting or pest control have proof of same e.g hunting permits or land deed.
It's just like a job interview where you have to sell yourself and then they make a recommendation based on their findings which is sent to the COP.
Wait a couple weeks and see what ammendements they're making to the laws and then apply based on same but get your COC and forms 1 and 16 in the meantime (must get those from govt printery in Caroni)


hmm so you have to already be a victim of home invasion or crime? i think i saw a news clip where they said a FUL was refused cuz someone wasn't a victim- that so foolish. cuz some ppl get rape and some didnt survive there 1st home invasion and they dead but only now they can qualify :roll: i hope UNC change dat policy.

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the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 10th, 2025, 12:01 am

alfa wrote:We have had air rifles in Trinidad for generations and way more than firearms because it's automatically approved once you produce a coc

Today's air rifles are semi auto, more powerful, carry a higher shot count and offer more consistent power per shot. And we haven't had many mishaps with these, and they can probably be counted on one hand how many these has been over the last half century.

This is probably due to the fact that you can't carry a long gun to the bar or caura were alcohol is present and it's unwieldy to use in a road rage incident.
If the govt wants to allow citizens to have a home defense shotgun or low caliber rifle to be kept at home I see no issue in grafting it along the same lines as air rifles

Some newer air rifles could probably be tuned to be almost as powerful as a 22lr and real rich kids have those, again with no incident of misuse


Excellent post alfy, excellent.

I totally agree….the Air Rifles are perfect for home defense and there is also no need for too many Trinis to have firearms where alcohol is present and in cases of road rage where these Trini jackasses will want to pull gun and any and everything and further endanger the lives of the innocent.

Let the TTPS handle the stories on the outside, let the citizens handle their stories on the inside. There is no need for irresponsible citizens with a personal carry in public.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 10th, 2025, 12:08 am



Jeezus crice no, too soon Tanty.

We have a sheit system in place that has not been revamped with a uncontrollable backlog with “files” all over the damn place.

Encouraging citizens to apply without a properly structured system in place will just cause further chaos and a ton of more paperwork added to the heap.

Do we have the staff to manage and accept the large volume of applications?

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby gastly369 » May 10th, 2025, 12:18 am

Ah see smokey and boy boy on De block talking about "cya wait to get dey pew pew"

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby redmanjp » May 10th, 2025, 1:08 am

MaxPower wrote:


Jeezus crice no, too soon Tanty.

We have a sheit system in place that has not been revamped with a uncontrollable backlog with “files” all over the damn place.

Encouraging citizens to apply without a properly structured system in place will just cause further chaos and a ton of more paperwork added to the heap.

Do we have the staff to manage and accept the large volume of applications?


they have 1 office- should be an office in every location/division with the respective DCP having authority to grant FULs - so Firearms Act have to change.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 10th, 2025, 3:40 am

redmanjp wrote:
they have 1 office- should be an office in every location/division with the respective DCP having authority to grant FULs - so Firearms Act have to change.


Yep, should be.

So until they implement their process, they should have said to apply “soon”.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2025, 5:29 am

that might be a recipe for bacchanal
when ppl say and hear they know this dcp tighter or laxer with granting and if he taking donation to pay he chirren school books

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby zoom rader » May 10th, 2025, 8:38 am

MaxPower wrote:
alfa wrote:We have had air rifles in Trinidad for generations and way more than firearms because it's automatically approved once you produce a coc

Today's air rifles are semi auto, more powerful, carry a higher shot count and offer more consistent power per shot. And we haven't had many mishaps with these, and they can probably be counted on one hand how many these has been over the last half century.

This is probably due to the fact that you can't carry a long gun to the bar or caura were alcohol is present and it's unwieldy to use in a road rage incident.
If the govt wants to allow citizens to have a home defense shotgun or low caliber rifle to be kept at home I see no issue in grafting it along the same lines as air rifles

Some newer air rifles could probably be tuned to be almost as powerful as a 22lr and real rich kids have those, again with no incident of misuse


Excellent post alfy, excellent.

I totally agree….the Air Rifles are perfect for home defense and there is also no need for too many Trinis to have firearms where alcohol is present and in cases of road rage where these Trini jackasses will want to pull gun and any and everything and further endanger the lives of the innocent.

Let the TTPS handle the stories on the outside, let the citizens handle their stories on the inside. There is no need for irresponsible citizens with a personal carry in public.
Getting hit with a .177 is a like jep sting.

Better a .25 slug be allowed in

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2025, 8:45 am

a 177 pellet won’t have knock down effect unfortunately
mind you a powerful pcp could make real noise
as loud or louder than a 9mm

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 10th, 2025, 9:00 am

When I mentioned small caliber rifles I was thinking along the lines of 22lr rim fire. But even in air rifles, allow citizens to own a .357 Benjamin bulldog and you'll see the effects

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 10th, 2025, 10:32 am

Empty the pellet!!

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2025, 10:37 am

the current air rifle laws are stupidest in the world
only allow .177 smoothbore
nobody makes smoothbore
so we get retrofitted crap
changing laws to rifled 22 would be good as you can get 22 in a wide range of weights

alfa wrote:When I mentioned small caliber rifles I was thinking along the lines of 22lr rim fire. But even in air rifles, allow citizens to own a .357 Benjamin bulldog and you'll see the effects

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » May 10th, 2025, 10:52 am

Timelapse will be afraid to venture in public.
FUL's e'rywhere ....
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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby j.o.e » May 10th, 2025, 11:23 am

So we just using the same system? This sounding like it guaranteed to fail and cause another backlog

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » May 10th, 2025, 11:27 am

Some is better than none at all.
They said they formed a committee to address it.
Give it time.

Also , PNM is sheit

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » May 10th, 2025, 11:32 am

Living with mums, works no where, draws no pay, on watch list and no fly list, wants FUL the most.

Delusional bad

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2025, 11:53 am

same setta cops or similar gonna be wukking there too…
those same cops gonna be grumbling amongst themselves about how kamala interfering with the process, can only speculate how they will do their job

j.o.e wrote:So we just using the same system? This sounding like it guaranteed to fail and cause another backlog

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby The_Honourable » May 10th, 2025, 11:57 am

While I am glad Kams will revise the FUL process, i hope we don't have incidents with one person having five or more high powered guns

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2025, 12:12 pm

i find allyuh sound real enthusiastic as though this is a sure thing

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 10th, 2025, 12:43 pm

Hadda just wait and see what reforms they bringing but I highly doubt every applicant will be getting 9s.
Home defense long gun with a special fast tracked process would be my best guess.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 10th, 2025, 12:46 pm

mero wrote:Living with mums, works no where, draws no pay, on watch list and no fly list, wants FUL the most.

Delusional bad


Mums hadda do up a letter giving the okay too.

Hope mums chanting along with him to empty d clip.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 10th, 2025, 12:49 pm

sMASH wrote:Timelapse will be afraid to venture in public.
FUL's e'rywhere ....


Yep i am afraid as well.

Staying far from heavily populated areas with these irresponsible Trinis who want to pull gun for everything. Calling it from now….men willll jackass it.

I will be reporting anyone violating the laws and not practicing responsible ownership. TTPS cant stand it when citizens are armed so they will take that away in a heartbeat.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 10th, 2025, 1:02 pm

Max the beauty is that you could pull yuh iron too

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2025, 1:04 pm

Max, it will only be like that at the start
but once everybody get a gun and it is no longer a status symbol things will boil down
it will only be a certain number of ppl rushing

MaxPower wrote:
sMASH wrote:Timelapse will be afraid to venture in public.
FUL's e'rywhere ....


Yep i am afraid as well.

Staying far from heavily populated areas with these irresponsible Trinis who want to pull gun for everything. Calling it from now….men willll jackass it.

I will be reporting anyone violating the laws and not practicing responsible ownership. TTPS cant stand it when citizens are armed so they will take that away in a heartbeat.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » May 10th, 2025, 4:47 pm

MaxPower wrote:Yep i am afraid as well.

Staying far from heavily populated areas with these irresponsible Trinis who want to pull gun for everything. Calling it from now….men willll jackass it.

I will be reporting anyone violating the laws and not practicing responsible ownership. TTPS cant stand it when citizens are armed so they will take that away in a heartbeat.


You can and should exercise your right to both stfu, and gtfo

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