No Dr. Rowley & Rfari

[Redman]

Why put up ALL this resistance to getting your innocence proven???

[trichards80]

It can NEVER stand up in a court of law. These FAKE emails!!

[pete]

Why put up ALL this resistance to getting your innocence proven???

Once it's not Manning it's innocent til proven guilty eh.

[trichards80]

How can you get TRUTH from FAKE??? IMPOSSIBLE!

[dougla_boy]

allyuh correct me if i wrong but if google says that the email addresses don't exist/ are fake

Which email addresses Google says are fake?

[Redman]

Why put up ALL this resistance to getting your innocence proven???

Once it's not Manning it's innocent til proven guilty eh.

LOL

True....cept that those we talking about interruption the PROVING process

Thats a technicality like no or insufficient evidence.

[4x4]

Meh name calling. Thanks for the shout out. Investigation into the email thing is the same as trying to prove false evidence. Think about that carefully. Impossible. I was amazed by Justice Ventours and the DPPs logic that they are investigating outside of the 4 corners of the mails. The Justice of all people knows about convicting "beyond all reasonable doubt". I hope he did not send innocent people to jail.

[4x4]

At the end of the day we are all people and we will all make mistakes and take sides etc. doesn't every citizen vote? Don't judges, policemen etc vote for a party? Isnt that a bias if they choose one party they favour over another especially if done during execution of their duty? Unfortunately it is how our society is constructed and maybe we will find a way to evolve from it.

[Chimera]

Ventour has always been known as a fair judge and a overall sensible man. His stance on this is very surprising.

[rfari]

So nobody even interested to find out what was the reasons behind section 34, suspected spying on the DPP etc??? Y'all done want the authorities to get to the bottom of it?

[rfari]

BTW, in here looking like a goldfish had a diarrhoea in a fish bowl with no filter.

[1UZFE]

So nobody even interested to find out what was the reasons behind section 34, suspected spying on the DPP etc??? Y'all done want the authorities to get to the bottom of it?

U still chupid awa...
7 days don pass.

[rfari]

So nobody even interested to find out what was the reasons behind section 34, suspected spying on the DPP etc??? Y'all done want the authorities to get to the bottom of it?

U still chupid awa...
7 days don pass.

Dem ting exempted from the 7 day memory boy. Wham to you

[Hyperion]

I smell fear from the paid bloggers, a real base primal instinct. The same kind of fear displayed by the leader and her pack, the kind of fear that makes your pupils dilate and your voice waver. The kind of fear that evokes an emotional response instead of a logical one.

These people refuse to let the investigation take its course, they want to kill it before it comes to a natural end. Logic would dictate that if it the investigation is completed fully and without interference, and the prime minister is found innocent, then not only would every doubt be removed but she would also have the opposition leader to hang. What are they trying to hide?

Any investigator worth his salt would investigate these allegations from every angle, given the implications for the country. Let the investigation lead conclude, and then I will listen to what the paid bloggers say, when there is no one left to pay them for their trolling and incessantly biased posting.

[UML]

just putting this here

Like ah boss

#kamla2015

[UML]

Rowley threatens people of chaguanas

WORST OPPOSITION LEADER EVER


1. Lied about the AG being at the US mission in New York

2. Criticized the Government for shutting down the country for a “passing cloud”. The passing cloud was Hurricane Tomas

3. Waved a Pizza delivery slip in parliament as evidence of the PM receiving files from the SSA

4. Called the Honorable Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, a hollow Pumpkin Lady

5. Refused to support the Hanging Bill

6. Refused to support the DNA Bill

7. Refused to support the Electronic Monitoring Bill

8. Accused the AG and a sitting Judge of being in collusion (Then apologizing)

9. Referring to the form one students who received the Laptops as Duncy-head

10. Showing total disrespect to the Indian Community

11. Lying about giving the President a petition with 25,000 signatures

12. Voting for The Administration of Justice (Indictable Proceedings) Act, 2011 then marching against it.

13. Chastised Bernadine George for bowing down and giving thanks to god after she received government assistance

14. Withdraw from a parliamentary Joint Select Committee (JSC) formed to develop public procurement legislation.

15. Wasted Taxpayer money and Parliament time with fraudulent claims about non-existent and fraudulently fabricated emails in another desperate act, disguised as a no-confidence motion, to mamaguay TT citizens

16. Holding Secret meeting with the chairman of the Integrity Commission Ken Gordon.

17. Lied about Lennox Grant being the general secretary of Tapia.

18. Lied and say that it was the PNM which put in freedom of the press as a constitutional right. History, however, records that that initiative was taken by Lionel Seukeran, Tajmool Hosein and Rudranath Capildeo in the Marlborough House consultation in 1962.

19. Lambasted Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar for Trinidad and Tobago’s co-sponsorship of a United Nations Security Council resolution on the fight against terrorism.

20. LIED about discussing the President housing allowance during a meeting of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC).

21. Referring to schools girls as hyenas in the African jungle.

22. Wine up in a sexually suggestive manner on a teenage girl

23. Refused to condemn the attack on the Besson Street Police Station and the brutal murder of 57 year old grandmother Marlene Grant by thugs of Laventille.

24. Refused to even acknowledge that Deputy PNM Political Leader and Opposition Whip Marlene McDonald had breached her fiduciary responsibilities when an audit at the Ministry of Community Development (under the Manning Administration) revealed allegations of questionable payments to a close associate - her common law husband, a director of Calabar Foundation that received that $375,000 cheque 3 months before the foundation was registered.

The audit also revealed that over $2.7million was issued to another close associate of the Minister for work to be done on three community centres; work which was never done.

25. Failed to advised the President, in by so doing, breached the Integrity Commission rules, when he was consulted on the appointment of that David West for the Chairmanship of the PCA, that West had filed a statement in support of his (Rowley’s position) in a defamation suit in which he was the defendant vs the Attorney General.

26. First Opposition Leader to face a no confidence motion.

27. Suspended for bringing bogus emails to Parliament.

Yuh hear LIE....DAT IS LIE!!!!!

Yet another LIE



IC Chairman Zainool Hosein does not belong to Israel Khan's chambers

[Daran]

One thing I must admit Rowley is a horrible opposition leader. I can think of several other fronts to legitimately attack the PPG but he keeps beating this dead horse and in the end is turning off serious voters with this email nonsense.

[Habit7]

Yet another LIE



IC Chairman Zainool Hosein does not belong to Israel Khan's chambers

great now show the letter addressed to Justice Hosein....the letter that Dr. Rowley referred to. Nevertheless if Hosein and khan have a relationship, how is this not as bad as Rowley's meeting Ken Gordon at his house?

One thing I must admit Rowley is a horrible opposition leader. I can think of several other fronts to legitimately attack the PPG but he keeps beating this dead horse and in the end is turning off serious voters with this email nonsense.

If he so horrible, he won 3 out of 5 elections?

67% Not swayed by email gate http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150523/news/18-18

If you think the PM can commit murder you won't be swayed, if you thin Dr. Rowley has fake emails you won't be swayed.

What is telling that every time the PM seeks to vindicate herself she just ends up with egg on her face. Just relax and let it run its course. When Dr. Rowley faced several allegations before 2007 election you never saw him vociferously trying to vindicate himself. Let others say you are innocent, not you

[Redman]

Habit you are being unrealistic.
You expect an independence of thought and critical thinking.

Isnt it clear that people focus on the data that supports their forgone conclusion...bolstering the feeling that they correct.

Its impossible that KPB lie.
Its impossible that KR is telling the truth.

How else can one rationalize the above posts??

Notice not one person has rationalized the Section 34 fiasco?
Gloss over and move on

[trinibourbon]

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150525 ... -worrisome

"Israel Khan is a senior Counsel, is he pretending not to know about apparent bias?".

Rowley referred to one of the letters on which Hosein's name appeared on the letterhead.

That five-page letter, dated May 2013, was written to former Integrity Commission Chairman Ken Gordon in which Khan asked Gordon to "disqualify" himself from any participation in the Emailgate investigation on the grounds of "apparent political bias". The letter called on Gordon to recuse himself from "any and all complaints and investigations pertaining to members of the Government and the Opposition", noting that "your participating in any process ...is bound to lead to applications for judicial review on the ground of apparent political bias".

Noting that Hosein was part of Khan's law chamber when that request was made by Khan, and when a number of letters were written to the Integrity Commission on the Emailgate matter on behalf of the Prime Minister and others, Rowley asked: "How come they all them knew about apparent bias then? How come they were quick to call for Ken Gordon's head? But now they (Government) can see no conflict of interest, no apparent bias?" (Gordon did recuse himself from the Emailgate probe and Justice Sebastian Ventour, who was then Deputy Chairman, took the lead in this matter).

In response to Khan's statements that there was no letter with Hosein's name on it after Hosein became Chairman of the IC in October 2014, Rowley said his focus was on the relationship between Khan and Hosein.

"What I want to ask him (Khan) is this: Did you ever write the Integrity Commission on behalf of your client/s while Mr Hosein was a member of your chamber? And was there anything you requested in those letters that had to be done by the Commission, which when Justice Hosein became chairman, remained outstanding? What was that thing? Was it that you wanted the matter dealt with dispatch with a view to having it (the investigation) terminated? Did that happen? And who was the chairman of the Integrity Commission? Is it the same man who was in your chambers and whose name appeared on your letterhead?" he asked.

Rowley recalled that in Section 34 defamation lawsuit filed by former attorney general Anand Ramlogan against him, the original judge, Justice Vashisht Kokaram recused himself because before he became a judge he was a lawyer in chambers in which Rowley's wife, Sharon, worked.

"The judge, on the grounds of apparent bias, recused himself," Rowley said.

[megadoc1]

so wait they called on Ken Gordon to recuse himself because he met privately with Rowley but was then OK with Hosein taking over from Gordon even though Hosein was with them when they made the call to Gordon? GREAT!

[rfari]

Zainool issa racketman yes

[4x4]

There is no way to prove false evidence. All those who are trying to go beyond that are wasting time. There can be no further investigations. The key issue here is how Rowley and Kamla are handling themselves, not in the past but now. Take an example of the gatherings over the weekend. The PNM choose to have a teenaged girl dressed up in yellow with a Vodka bottle in hand pretending to be drunk. The PP chose to present a young man (about 12) dressed in a suit who was able to deliver a speech. You choose the future you want and the party you want to lead. What do you want for your children which is really the only thing that matters.

[rfari]

Watch and learn uml and tricia

[4x4]

Rowley should not mess around with Israel Khan who has responded and cleared up the issue. I really don't know who is advising Rowley but he keeps getting it wrong. I strongly feel that they are allowing him to destroy himself and probably choose another leader for the next election. Did you all notice he was alone on stage with a drum set?

[rfari]

Rowley should not mess around with Israel Khan who has responded and cleared up the issue. I really don't know who is advising Rowley but he keeps getting it wrong. I strongly feel that they are allowing him to destroy himself and probably choose another leader for the next election. Did you all notice he was alone on stage with a drum set?

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150525/news/rowley-any-letter-with-hoseins-name-worrisome

"Israel Khan is a senior Counsel, is he pretending not to know about apparent bias?".

Rowley referred to one of the letters on which Hosein's name appeared on the letterhead.

That five-page letter, dated May 2013, was written to former Integrity Commission Chairman Ken Gordon in which Khan asked Gordon to "disqualify" himself from any participation in the Emailgate investigation on the grounds of "apparent political bias". The letter called on Gordon to recuse himself from "any and all complaints and investigations pertaining to members of the Government and the Opposition", noting that "your participating in any process ...is bound to lead to applications for judicial review on the ground of apparent political bias".

Noting that Hosein was part of Khan's law chamber when that request was made by Khan, and when a number of letters were written to the Integrity Commission on the Emailgate matter on behalf of the Prime Minister and others, Rowley asked: "How come they all them knew about apparent bias then? How come they were quick to call for Ken Gordon's head? But now they (Government) can see no conflict of interest, no apparent bias?" (Gordon did recuse himself from the Emailgate probe and Justice Sebastian Ventour, who was then Deputy Chairman, took the lead in this matter).

In response to Khan's statements that there was no letter with Hosein's name on it after Hosein became Chairman of the IC in October 2014, Rowley said his focus was on the relationship between Khan and Hosein.

"What I want to ask him (Khan) is this: Did you ever write the Integrity Commission on behalf of your client/s while Mr Hosein was a member of your chamber? And was there anything you requested in those letters that had to be done by the Commission, which when Justice Hosein became chairman, remained outstanding? What was that thing? Was it that you wanted the matter dealt with dispatch with a view to having it (the investigation) terminated? Did that happen? And who was the chairman of the Integrity Commission? Is it the same man who was in your chambers and whose name appeared on your letterhead?" he asked.

Rowley recalled that in Section 34 defamation lawsuit filed by former attorney general Anand Ramlogan against him, the original judge, Justice Vashisht Kokaram recused himself because before he became a judge he was a lawyer in chambers in which Rowley's wife, Sharon, worked.

"The judge, on the grounds of apparent bias, recused himself," Rowley said.

[4x4]

Rowley said his focus was on the relationship between Khan and Hosein.
Rfari, this is where Rowley getting it wrong. All judges know all lawyers in TT. It would be constitutionally wrong to discriminate based on "where you worked". He worked at the law chambers. He was not married to Khan. In Rowley's case he presented something to the chairman at his house. Matters for the attention of the IC are presented to the Registrar at their constitutional office. Khan indicated that as soon as Zainool was selected as the chairman of the IC his name was removed from all the LC business.

[4x4]

Regarding Section 34. That is also a dead issue. Volney changed his story about 10 times and eventually took ownership. He was the one in Tobago with his ministry drinking champagne with Ish. He has paid the price. This is like a crime has taken place and somebody in jail for it but we still investigating it. And again the repeal of the act was immediate when the loophole was found.

[rfari]

Regarding Section 34. That is also a dead issue. Volney changed his story about 10 times and eventually took ownership. He was the one in Tobago with his ministry drinking champagne with Ish. He has paid the price. This is like a crime has taken place and somebody in jail for it but we still investigating it. And again the repeal of the act was immediate when the loophole was found.

Last time I checked there was no investigation into perverting of the course of justice wrt section 34. kamala firing volney means very little

[4x4]

How did the section 34 go down? The lower house all voted for the bill. The bill was sent to the upper house and it was there that they introduced section 34 and passed. It then came back to the lower house and all voted for it. If all voted for it who is going to send it for investigation. We would have had to lock up the entire upper and lower houses. It was identified and repealed immediately. Volney try a ting, just like Rowley try ah ting with emailgate just like Kamla try a ting with Reshmi. Whenever you or I get into power and know what it feels like, who knows we might try ah ting too.