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Postby UML » May 22nd, 2015, 3:59 am

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PNM so like to spread Propaganda and Misinformation

they say the investigation was terminated because of "insufficient evidence"

when the letter clearly states "insufficient grounds"

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Postby Lance » May 22nd, 2015, 4:21 am

Allyuh have poor UML working overtime.

Call in reinforcements!!!!

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Postby Hyperion » May 22nd, 2015, 5:53 am

As a paid blogger. does one get triple overtime for posting between the hours of 12:00 am and 5:00 am?

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Postby Crackpot » May 22nd, 2015, 5:57 am

UML wrote:
Allam Karim wrote:

DOUBLE STANDARDS BY THE DPP AND POLICE
I’m very concerned of the different standards being applied by the DPP Office when it comes to investigating members of the government compared to members of the PNM.
In the Guanapo Church issue, DPP Gaspard stated Mr. Manning, Mr. Hart nor Ms. Pena were interviewed because “the Judges Rules legally prohibit the police from treating them as suspects, since the police appear not to have any evidence which would afford reasonable grounds for suspecting that they may have committed any offence”
That is in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, even DPP Gaspard stated Mr. Manning had a vested interest in the Church, he visited the Church, and even chaired cabinet meetings that approved the land for the Church.
My question is, how can there be no suspicion of wrongdoing?
Was the following suspicious acts investigated?
1. The Source of the funds to build the Church

2. The $55,000 paid to the former occupants of the land, the Source of that money and who delivered it
3. The Cabinet involvement in granting the land to Pena
4. The Contract with Chinese contractor Michael Zhang (How did a private citizen able to hire a foreign contractor who was here on government to government contract?)
5. The Immigration Act of Trinidad and Tobago Chapter 18:01 ( the Sections pertaining to work permits)
6. The Prime Minister's Residence and Diplomatic Centre at La Fantasie Road, St Ann's ( If funds were siphoned from that project to build the church)
7. The $5M HOUSE at 22 Windsurf Road East, Westmoorings (Why did the state lease Chinese contractor Michael Zhang that property and did Pena stayed at that property)

………..DPP Gaspard Statement ………..
Neither Mr. Hart nor Ms. Pena has been interviewed on this score, owing to their unavailability. Further, the Judges Rules legally prohibit the police from treating them or the former Prime Minister as suspects, since the police appear not to have any evidence which would afford reasonable grounds for suspecting that they may have committed any offence arising out of this matter.
…it is clear that the evidence establishes that the then Prime Minister had an interest in the construction of the Church and that he had nourished his interest by visiting the proposed site and by making suggestions as to the proposed design of the Church. Further, he had chaired the Cabinet meetings which had approved the granting of State lands for the building of the Church. It should be noted that Cabinet has to approve the grant of all such lands.
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How can Mr. Manning chair cabinet meetings to approve something he had a vested interest and not recuse himself? Isn’t that conflict of interest and how can DPP Gaspard find nothing wrong with that?
Yet they are investigating the government on FRAUDULENT Documents?
I’m baffled!



Interesting points to consider with respect to my point of sleeper cells


As I also mentioned previously this whole issue shows why we CANNOT remove the Privy Council.


*yawn* :| Stop whining

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Postby j.o.e » May 22nd, 2015, 6:38 am

Hyperion wrote:As a paid blogger. does one get triple overtime for posting between the hours of 12:00 am and 5:00 am?


Pertinent question...been trying my best to get a contract. I'm running out of hope

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Postby rfari » May 22nd, 2015, 7:26 am

j.o.e wrote:^^^^ age is an irrelevant number...dey looking good
Wha we go do?

True eh. The goodly doctor have a kinna look bai. Like anything is anything

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Postby Redman » May 22nd, 2015, 7:29 am

Thats the best pic of the DPP.

She could press her case against me anytime.....

So the PM health playing second fiddle to the IC fumble.

I guess we eh really bizness.

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Postby Redman » May 22nd, 2015, 7:36 am

UML wrote:Image

PNM so like to spread Propaganda and Misinformation

they say the investigation was terminated because of "insufficient evidence"

when the letter clearly states "insufficient grounds"

:roll:



Well Ventor said that the letter is inaccurate.
As a judge he should know.

If you listen to his statements he is pretty definitive and lucid...about his position.



they say lanate does ease the chestburn.....

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Postby 1UZFE » May 22nd, 2015, 7:40 am

Where is the "integrity" in the "integrity commission"
TnT must start havin a foriegn panel for our integrity commission, every goverment dictates these commissions.

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Postby dougla_boy » May 22nd, 2015, 7:44 am

j.o.e wrote:
Hyperion wrote:As a paid blogger. does one get triple overtime for posting between the hours of 12:00 am and 5:00 am?


Pertinent question...been trying my best to get a contract. I'm running out of hope


link meh when yuh gt nuh

doh beat up...ah have ah rum and roti finish...rfari cud attest to it.. 8-)

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Postby UML » May 22nd, 2015, 7:49 am

Ventour himself said that the cases against Kaml and Ramlogan was over and false.

His grouse is that the investigation is still on wrt Suruj and Griffith

So the integrity commission should not say they are cleared?

the whole investigation should wait until all is cleared and have FRAUDULNT ALLEGATIONS hanging over their heads?

I think he more upset that ROWLEYGATE is FRAUDULENT!!!!


So if the IC letter stated only Kamla and Ramlogan accusations were false would Ventour be happy??? :|

He clearly playing smart with chupidness!!!! :roll:

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Postby rfari » May 22nd, 2015, 7:55 am

UML wrote:Ventour himself said that the cases against Kaml and Ramlogan was over and false.

His grouse is that the investigation is still on wrt Suruj and Griffith

So the integrity commission should not say they are cleared?

the whole investigation should wait until all is cleared and have FRAUDULNT ALLEGATIONS hanging over their heads?

I think he more upset that ROWLEYGATE is FRAUDULENT!!!!


So if the IC letter stated only Kamla and Ramlogan accusations were false would Ventour be happy??? :|

He clearly playing smart with chupidness!!!! :roll:

U supporting his decision then bashing him?

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Postby humbleservant » May 22nd, 2015, 7:57 am

UML wrote:Ventour himself said that the cases against Kaml and Ramlogan was over and false.

His grouse is that the investigation is still on wrt Suruj and Griffith

So the integrity commission should not say they are cleared?

the whole investigation should wait until all is cleared and have FRAUDULNT ALLEGATIONS hanging over their heads?

I think he more upset that ROWLEYGATE is FRAUDULENT!!!!


So if the IC letter stated only Kamla and Ramlogan accusations were false would Ventour be happy??? :|

He clearly playing smart with chupidness!!!! :roll:



You need to read the interview with ventour in the express...

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Postby Habit7 » May 22nd, 2015, 8:17 am

UML wrote:Ventour himself said that the cases against Kaml and Ramlogan was over and false.
Quote plz, aside from UNC morning programmes.

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Postby rfari » May 22nd, 2015, 10:10 am

Just assisting uml with the reposts

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Sharma quits PNM post over Emailgate affair

Gail Alexander

Published: 

Friday, May 22, 2015

People’s National Movement (PNM) disciplinary committee member Dr Subash Sharma, who resigned from the party yesterday, had initiated legal action earlier this year against outgoing Integrity Commission member Dr Shelly Anne Lalchan.

Sharma confirmed both developments yesterday. On his resignation, he said PNM leader Keith Rowley’s situation in the Emailgate issue was the last straw for him.

He is clinical co-ordinator/lecturer of the Optometry Programme at UWI’s School of Optometry/Visual Sciences. 

Sharma had initiated action against Lalchan, who is an opthalmologist, in February over alleged defamation in relation to the National Eye Survey of T&T (NESTT) project. Lalchan resigned as a member of the Integrity Commission on Wednesday.

Sharma has declined details on the matter which is still in court but it is understood that when the matter occurred it was conveyed to UWI officials and that also was communicated to the President’s Office. There was no comment from President’s House on this, however.

Sharma joined the PNM in 2006 and was a high-profile member under the Patrick Manning administration. He was PNM’s St Augustine candidate in 2010, St Augustine PRO, election officer at various points and co-ordinator of the party’s Chaguanas East and West areas.

His resignation, however, is merely an official parting of the ways since Sharma had been estranged from PNM since the 2014 internal leadership contest when he backed contender Penny Beckles-Robinson against Rowley as part of the “Preserve the Balisier” pressure group. 

Sharma was among several of her supporters who criticised Rowley’s leadership.

In his resignation letter to PNM general secretary Ashton Ford, Dr Sharma said: “I regret to inform you I have decided to resign from the PNM because the party does not represent the ideals that I hold very dear, which attracted me to become a member. 

“However, the latest blow to the party due to his irrational and cavalier prosecution of the Emailgate affair, where he attempted to mislead our sacred Parliament and defame its honourable members, in addition to other errors of judgment (Section 34, multiple “no-confidence” motions, running from Parliament), have shown he cannot be trusted anymore with the leadership of the party and definitely not with the prime ministerial responsibility of our country.”

Sharma also said Rowley’s ill-advised association with the “Roundtable” at this time was another cause for concern. 

“He must go now. I sincerely hope the party can overcome its present difficulties and take its rightful place again to offer our nation an honest option in our democracy,” he added. 

On his future, Sharma said: “I’m remaining very active politically and will continue having talks with various groups but I have made no decision. Ideally, I prefer an independent line to see how best to serve T&T.” http://m.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-05-21 ... ate-affair


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Postby dougla_boy » May 22nd, 2015, 10:22 am

dougla_boy wrote:
UML wrote:
he backed contender Penny Beckles-Robinson



stopped reading here :roll: ....everybody know Beckles is a big teef.

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Postby eliteauto » May 22nd, 2015, 10:50 am

Sharma issa UNC plant and sleeper cell, plus the UNC paid him handsomely to finance Penny's campaign

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Postby rfari » May 22nd, 2015, 11:05 am

Good thing they didn't select him for the ge. But like he re-activate too early tho. No wonder growley run all the penny backers

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Postby eliteauto » May 22nd, 2015, 11:08 am

hadda counteract Ventour so they press the on switch

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Postby UML » May 22nd, 2015, 11:16 am

humbleservant wrote:
UML wrote:Ventour himself said that the cases against Kaml and Ramlogan was over and false.

His grouse is that the investigation is still on wrt Suruj and Griffith

So the integrity commission should not say they are cleared?

the whole investigation should wait until all is cleared and have FRAUDULNT ALLEGATIONS hanging over their heads?

I think he more upset that ROWLEYGATE is FRAUDULENT!!!!


So if the IC letter stated only Kamla and Ramlogan accusations were false would Ventour be happy??? :|

He clearly playing smart with chupidness!!!! :roll:



You need to read the interview with ventour in the express...


so you believe pollution causes earthquakes and the express? :shock:


nice 8-)

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Postby Redman » May 22nd, 2015, 11:19 am

eliteauto wrote:hadda counteract Ventour so they press the on switch


By September we eh need election cuz by then every one resign and is a sleeper cell.

We will need to import a govt....let China send a 40 ft.

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Postby UML » May 22nd, 2015, 11:27 am

Questionable Character. Eat ah Food. Sleeper Cell.



Ventour quits Integrity Commission
Published on Feb 6, 2014, 10:54 pm AST
Updated on Feb 7, 2014, 8:58 am AST

UNABLE to deliver three outstanding High Court judgments while serving as a member of the Integrity Commission, Justice Sebastian Ventour on Wednesday resigned as the commission’s deputy chairman.

Ventour was yesterday sworn in as a temporary puisne judge of the High Court in order to hand down the three judgments.

One of the judgments Ventour handed down yesterday was the more than ten-year-old case between Mora Ven Holdings Ltd, Mora Oil Ventures Ltd and George Nicholas versus Krishna Persad & Associates Ltd and Krishna Persad. (See Page 16)

Following the expiration of the term of office of four of the five members of the Integrity Commission last year, President Anthony Carmona appointed Ventour, Seunarine Jokhoo, Deonarine Jaggernauth and Dr Shelly-Anne Lalchan to fill the vacancies.

On July 1 last year, Ventour was appointed a member of the Integrity Commission and named its deputy chairman.

He had retired as a High Court judge in 2012 after 14 years on the bench.

Ventour, however, had three judgments outstanding.

According to Section 4(5) of the Integrity in Public Life Act Chap 22:01, “A person shall not be qualified to hold office as a member of the (Integrity) Commission where he is a person in public life or a person exercising a public function.”

In his letter of resignation from the Integrity Commission, Justice Ventour explained that he has three outstanding judgments to deliver and is prevented by law from doing so as a sitting member of the Integrity Commission,” a release from the Office of the President stated yesterday.

The appointment was made on the advice of the Judicial and Legal Service Commission (JLSC).

Section 4(5) of the Integrity in Public Life Act Chap 22:01 prevented Ventour from “being appointed a High Court judge (albeit temporary) while holding office as a member of the Integrity Commission,” the release from the Office of the President stated.

“In the circumstances, Justice Ventour was constrained, in accordance with Section 6(1) of the act, to tender his resignation as a member of the Integrity Commission in order to facilitate his appointment as a judge of the High Court,” the release stated.

Ventour, who has a legal career spanning more that three decades, was the only person with a legal background on the Integrity Commission.

The Express unsuccessfully sought to contact Integrity Commission chairman Ken Gordon for a comment on how Ventour’s resignation and the absence of a person with a legal background would affect the Commission.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Ven ... 32271.html



Ex-judge: No big deal
Ventour back on Integrity Commission


Published on Feb 27, 2014, 8:36 pm AST
Updated on Feb 28, 2014, 4:01 pm AST


Newly reappointed commissioner and deputy chairman of the Integrity Commission, Justice Sebastian Ventour, yesterday called on the media to focus on the more pressing problems facing the country and not on his abrupt and eyebrow-raising temporary departure from the Integrity Commission.



Ventour told reporters the commission can get back to the important issues that were held in abeyance with his departure.



Ventour had resigned from the commission on February 5 to be appointed a puisne judge on the advice of the Judicial and Legal Service Commission to deliver three outstanding judgments. At a short ceremony at the President’s office yesterday, he was reappointed a commissioner by President Anthony Carmona.



In a statement read at the ceremony by the president’s aide-de-camp, Don Polo, the President’s office indicated the reappointment of Ventour came after consultation with the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition.



Asked yesterday whether he was performing a judicial function (because he would have been deliberating and contemplating the judgments) while still serving on the commission (prior to his resignation), Ventour skirted this question, saying: “Listen ladies and gentlemen, I think you should redirect the cameras. There are so many ills affecting Trinidad and Tobago at this point in time, you got to refocus. I am going back to the Integrity Commission at this time to continue a job I started and I hope your prayers are with me. No further comment”.



The president also declined to answer questions saying he has never conducted interviews at his office.



Earlier at the ceremony, the President office, speaking through the president’s aide-de-camp, stated the practice of reappointing a judge who has retired and is active in other endeavours to facilitate the delivery of outstanding judgments was not without precedent in Trinidad and Tobago and was generally done in alignment with the public interest so that closure can be brought to outstanding matters in the courts.



“However, accordance with Section 4 (5) of the Integrity in Public Life Act, ... which states: “A person shall not be qualified to hold office as a member of the commission where he is a person in public life or a person exercising a public function”, Mr Justice Ventour was, from the moment of his swearing-in as a puisne judge, thus disqualified from exercising his functions in the Integrity Commission. He proactively tendered his resignation from the commission with effect from February 5 to facilitate his reappointment to the Judiciary for that one day,” Polo stated.



At that time both Attorney General Anand Ramlogan and Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley had expressed concerns.



Ramlogan had stated he was “shocked and disappointed” particularly because of the checkered history of the Integrity Commission.



Rowley expressed disappointment at the lack of openness, clarity and advanced notice. He said the public should have been kept in the loop.



The reappointment of Ventour means that the commission—which under the law must have an attorney in its membership—is once more properly constituted and has a quorum to conduct its business.



The commission has several important matters under investigation, most prominent among them are the investigations into Emailgate and former minister and current MP for Chaguanas West, Jack Warner.



—Ria Taitt
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Ex- ... 77191.html




Law Association president on Ventour’s reappointment: Clumsy and unacceptable



Richard Lord

Published:
Saturday, March 1, 2014

President Anthony Carmona, right, swears in Justice Sebastian Ventour as deputy commissioner of the Integrity Commission at President House, St Ann’s, yesterday. PHOTO: KRISTIAN DE SILVA
President of the Law Association Seenath Jairam, SC, says the way deputy chairman of the Integrity Commission Justice Sebastian Ventour had to resign to deliver three outstanding judgments was ”clumsy and unacceptable.” Jairam maintained the matter was not handled in the best way, saying the judgments should have been delivered immediately after Ventour retired from the bench, and if they could not have been delivered at that time, they should have been read not long afterwards.





Ventour was reappointed by President Anthony Carmona at the Office of the President, St Ann’s on Thursday. After first being appointed in July 2013, he resigned on February 5, and was appointed a puisne judge the next day to deliver his judgments. Ventour retired from the Judiciary in 2012. Jairam said the events which occurred were unfortunate and unacceptable.



Ventour’s reappointment has been criticised by several other lawyers. Former Law Association president Martin Daly described it as a reflection of the “silliness of the season.” Jairam said he respected the different views of his colleagues on the matter but maintained his unreserved support for Ventour, saying Ventour is a man of impeccable integrity and he endorses him fully as deputy chairman of the Integrity Commission. He said he had “utmost trust, faith and confidence in Ventour as he is fair, fearless and fair-minded.”



And chairman of the Integrity Commission Kenneth Gordon said yesterday he was pleased to have Ventour back in office. Gordon told the T&T Guardian, “Justice Ventour is an excellent person and we are delighted that he is back. The work of the commission is moving again.” Ventour on Thursday dismissed questions on his reappointment, advising reporters to focus on the many ills in the country.http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-03- ... acceptable


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Postby rfari » May 22nd, 2015, 11:29 am

#sleepercell

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Postby UML » May 22nd, 2015, 11:36 am

He said the Emailgate investigation and the information the commission received involved just Persad-Bissessar and Ramlogan but said nothing about the other individuals also under investigation. As the matter was being investigated as a whole, there were still two outstanding investigations into other email addresses, he said.

“They are with Hotmail. The matter, therefore, cannot be complete. We are saying that the matter is finished but with that information still outstanding it cannot be finished,” Ventour added.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-05- ... p%E2%80%99


so no information was obtained for Suruj and Griffith from Hotmail. So he agrees information was obtained from Google and was investigated and that part has been completed then?

why should FRAUDULENT allegations be held over peoples head?

He didnt have such integrity when he was jumping from job to job and then back again!! :roll:

Justice DELAYED is JUSTICE DENIED!!!

If it does NOT FIT, You must ACQUIT!!!!

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Postby Redman » May 22nd, 2015, 11:39 am

rfari wrote:#sleepercell



Whats the point of sleeper cells if everyone knows youre a sleeper cell..

or is it that sleepercell is anyone that not spouting the party line?

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Postby Numb3r4 » May 22nd, 2015, 12:18 pm

Epicurus wrote:Yes it's still going on as there are some unanswered questions
1. Those of us who still have morals would like the content ie allegations investigated. So please get past the fact that the email addresses are fake.. That was obvious from day 1
2. We all know they have valid email accounts, if The PM is so pressed to clear her name why not provide the content of her actual email accounts for the period under question? This investigation would have been over in a month.
3. Why does this have to be the end of The opposition for asking for an investigation into probable wrong doing ? We know for a fact that KPB would do the same if the position was reversed.
4. Do you people supporting the government at all costs actually believe the drivel you type?

And finally why is effective designs still posting after making several promises to stop almost a year ago?


With response to your points:
1 How do you trust the content of the mesage has such blatant errors/falsehoods. Just as they concocted the emails they could have made up the content as well.
2 Just because you provide the contents of your inbox doesn't mean you did or didn't send the email, you could delete it, in that case you would have to go to Google and we would still be here, having to wrangle with lawyers and such. Not to mention the content and vocabulary of the email, no onenat a tertiary level of education types or speaks like that.
3 Agreed this does not mean the end of the inquisition, but if one detail is false it does raise a lot of questions as to the validity of the other details.
4 No we don't all support the government but we do find that the matter has been dragged on for far to long, they should have made firmer pronouncements that were better coordinated, they were given a task and from day one it was mired in confusion and commess, much like the original emails. One begins to wonder if that was the purpose.

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Postby UML » May 22nd, 2015, 12:22 pm

wasnt it stated somewhere that most of the contents of the emails had happened before the FRAUDULENT email was created?

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Postby Habit7 » May 22nd, 2015, 12:59 pm

UML wrote:
He said the Emailgate investigation and the information the commission received involved just Persad-Bissessar and Ramlogan but said nothing about the other individuals also under investigation. As the matter was being investigated as a whole, there were still two outstanding investigations into other email addresses, he said.

“They are with Hotmail. The matter, therefore, cannot be complete. We are saying that the matter is finished but with that information still outstanding it cannot be finished,” Ventour added.
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-05-21/%E2%80%98time-stand-up%E2%80%99</span>


so no information was obtained for Suruj and Griffith from Hotmail. So he agrees information was obtained from Google and was investigated and that part has been completed then?

why should FRAUDULENT allegations be held over peoples head?

He didnt have such integrity when he was jumping from job to job and then back again!! :roll:

Justice DELAYED is JUSTICE DENIED!!!

If it does NOT FIT, You must ACQUIT!!!!

But you said
UML wrote:Ventour himself said that the cases against Kaml and Ramlogan was over and false.

By what you post there, Ventour never said that.

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Postby Crackpot » May 22nd, 2015, 1:15 pm

What is this sleeper cell and how do I become one ?

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Postby 4x4 » May 22nd, 2015, 1:17 pm

Ventour is making a last ditch effort to save his party. Things are very bad for the PNM and are currently facing a heavy election defeat. PNM will pull out all stops over the next few months to regain power. Look out people.

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