The Religion Discussion

[MG Man]

um.............how does one get to um.............Ibiza?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ ask the Vengaboys

[MG Man]

didn't they go by Uncle John in Jamaica for a holiday?

[buzz]

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[illumin@ti]

^^^^ seems like idolatry to me eh...

yuheh hear de woman dem wailing like dey go dead?

[QG]

Every one believes god made them in His image..
the Blacks, Whites, Rednecks and Viking..

so what is God really?
Ah dougla?

And who made god?


And in Evolution...we are contstantly evolving as Dwane said...Evolution not so much physically...but Mentally!

we are advancing technologically ...exponentially!

the future Human being will be a mix of Robotics an Organics..and a Highly Developed Brain.

We will become our Own Gods!

that is in the near future - I was talking about real natural selection and genetic evolution over millions of years. We may develop larger lungs to breathe in a more "polluted" environment and perhaps if we continue to do less physical work and more mental work a larger brain but frailer limbs.

yeh uncle..why not?
it is only due to environmental changes did we evolve before....and the environ is becoming difficult now....so i agree..we may also physically evolve!

DFC,
And you think that God has no factor in this evolution?

[Monk BANzai]

^ Banzai that was posted twice in this thread already and the student's claims already refuted.

me eh business if its been refuted....i like the student agrument..it makes sense to me and I buying into it.

Cudnt care what allyuh think bout it.....I beleive in God. Fin. I dont have to justify that to anyone, far less MAKE and argument for it?...


i pfft on you guys...

[MG Man]

Banzai, I wils u could tell Bluefete that

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ Banzai that was posted twice in this thread already and the student's claims already refuted.

me eh business if its been refuted....i like the student agrument..it makes sense to me and I buying into it.

Cudnt care what allyuh think bout it.....I beleive in God. Fin. I dont have to justify that to anyone, far less MAKE and argument for it?...


i pfft on you guys...

I'm guessing you didnt read the whole thread

[cenile indian]

nuh sure if is ah repost i didnt read d entire thread


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[DTAC]

"God, if you exist. Please kill this thread.... Amen"

[DFC]

QG? what does god have to do with evolution?

People stop taking the bible ..literally!!
jeez!

[Greypatch]

69 pages...


to each his/her own....move on ppl.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ it going good - nobody fighting - just sharing ideas and asking further questions about answers given.

[Kasey]

true

[AllTrac]

there is only one god, his name is Bear Grylls, repent!!!!!

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

there is only one god, his name is Bear Grylls, repent!!!!!

ha! Bear Grylls wants nuttin with Les Stroud.

being your own camera man > having a safety and camera crew follow you.

[crazybalhead]

there is only one god, his name is Bear Grylls, repent!!!!!

ha! Bear Grylls wants nuttin with Les Stroud.

being your own camera man > having a safety and camera crew follow you.

Indeed. Biting off snake head FTL.

[Kasey]

Buh all ah dem is just followers of the real grandmaster, Mr Steve Irwin? RIP.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ noeh - Les Stroud shows how the survive, Steve Irwin used to find animals to harass

I'm still waiting on Bluefete's answers though

[Monk BANzai]

^ Banzai that was posted twice in this thread already and the student's claims already refuted.

me eh business if its been refuted....i like the student agrument..it makes sense to me and I buying into it.

Cudnt care what allyuh think bout it.....I beleive in God. Fin. I dont have to justify that to anyone, far less MAKE and argument for it?...


i pfft on you guys...

I'm guessing you didnt read the whole thread

yes I have. and hence me saying what I said. Even others have observed it...it seems that the Evolutionists (yourself included) seemt o be either lacking repsoct for anothers PoV or Demanding that that PoV be justified. The tread started off as a simple "post ways God's has blessed you" thread and has degenerated into a science vs creation tirade that has al lthe ingredients to span 21,000 pages.

At this point im sure that the Evolutionists/Aethiests are so set in your ways that LOGIC is the only way that it needs to be rsolved.

And on the Creationist/God lovers side, its a constant defending of position, more to the amuse and humour or yourselves and the like than any other.

I think you've lost your perspective a long way back (try page 30 or so) and its funny, cuz with each passing entty you guys make, it solidifies my concepts of you (and others).

It s Pity really.

[Monk BANzai]

and to the Christians...why cant yosimple accpet that you CANT prove that God exists...its simply a matter of faith.....to ant GOd of ANY religion (hindu, bhuddist et al)...you cant prove the existence of a "higher being"...that nullifies the pure concept of having "faith" in that "bieng....from the time you start to TRY to prove God's existence, you've failed....

Conversely....while Evolution does "exist"...its more random than anything else...and how do you explain spontaneous of materials? i mean how do you justify materials to from the "BIG BANG" in the first place? What was there befoer the Big Bang...what was it made up of?.... can a reversal of the Big Bang take place? why not?

i will admit though, that there's alot of scienticfic evidence to support evolution, but not reversely. Was doing some research into the Famous REd sea crossing (as stated in the Bible) and came up on this... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168

good read. Pleasuible at best...but not convincing enough....so digged some more....

and came upon this.. http://users.netconnect.com.au/~leedas/redsea.html

or.. http://www.newjerusalemcommunity.net/?c=49&a=1951

see..to me, it jsut didnt make sense that a Sea...(not a River yunno..a fackin Sea!) would just "part"....

all the reports said the same thing. Coral does not grow on gold..yet in the middle of th red sea, you found a mass of Chariots and skeltal remains?..... wierd.

I just used that example to show that on either dies, there is eveidence of existence. NOt of God' persa, but that the devine path was there. ITs your choice. You can choose to go with the Evolution theroy that's based on a "random explosion" of materials that scientist STILL are to confirm the nature of...(and where these "materials came from), or go the other path.

But you guys...nah...you guys WANT evidence....PROVE IT GODLOVING SUCKERS!!.

I dont. It's like me coming and beat Saltdog's best ET time at a Solodex based on a fun run.

PRove it again nah?...nope. Why? my choice.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ everyone is entitled to their opinion

no one argued with any user who said "I believe XYZ"
some offered proof and we are all discussing that proof

every user posting in here has a different POV and that's their prerogative
no one was asked to justify their POV unless they offered it. If anything was demanded was validity of their proof that they offered.

it's a discussion

[Monk BANzai]

^^ really?



you really need to go and reread what you've typed these last few pages then...

(shakes head)...

[salvation4U]

there is only one god, his name is Bear Grylls, repent!!!!!

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[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^^ really?



you really need to go and reread what you've typed these last few pages then...

(shakes head)...

some put up an argument and I countered
I put up mine and they countered -

its called a discussion
the ones who want to take part, are

[MG Man]

I met him in a back alley............I stabbed him and he died.........

talk done

[QG]

and to the Christians...why cant yosimple accpet that you CANT prove that God exists...its simply a matter of faith.....to ant GOd of ANY religion (hindu, bhuddist et al)...you cant prove the existence of a "higher being"...that nullifies the pure concept of having "faith" in that "bieng....from the time you start to TRY to prove God's existence, you've failed....

Conversely....while Evolution does "exist"...its more random than anything else...and how do you explain spontaneous of materials? i mean how do you justify materials to from the "BIG BANG" in the first place? What was there befoer the Big Bang...what was it made up of?.... can a reversal of the Big Bang take place? why not?

i will admit though, that there's alot of scienticfic evidence to support evolution, but not reversely. Was doing some research into the Famous REd sea crossing (as stated in the Bible) and came up on this... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168

good read. Pleasuible at best...but not convincing enough....so digged some more....

and came upon this.. http://users.netconnect.com.au/~leedas/redsea.html

or.. http://www.newjerusalemcommunity.net/?c=49&a=1951

see..to me, it jsut didnt make sense that a Sea...(not a River yunno..a fackin Sea!) would just "part"....

all the reports said the same thing. Coral does not grow on gold..yet in the middle of th red sea, you found a mass of Chariots and skeltal remains?..... wierd.

I just used that example to show that on either dies, there is eveidence of existence. NOt of God' persa, but that the devine path was there. ITs your choice. You can choose to go with the Evolution theroy that's based on a "random explosion" of materials that scientist STILL are to confirm the nature of...(and where these "materials came from), or go the other path.

But you guys...nah...you guys WANT evidence....PROVE IT GODLOVING SUCKERS!!.

I dont. It's like me coming and beat Saltdog's best ET time at a Solodex based on a fun run.

PRove it again nah?...nope. Why? my choice.

Again, why can't God play a factor in Evolution?? lol
I am not against you or science, but think about it...everything started with him.
It never occurred to you that God gave man the knowledge to build tools/equipments to Explore and understand science and the miracle works that he did?
There are things we humans don't understand, especially God works and designs...Is it possible that God granted man the wisdom to discover and understand these things? (Scientist/and Science)

[Gladiator]

AllTrac wrote:
there is only one god, his name is Bear Grylls, repent!!!!!


ha! Bear Grylls wants nuttin with Les Stroud.

being your own camera man > having a safety and camera crew follow you.

Les Stroud visits the site he going to film a month in advance with absolutely no knowledge about its environment and talks to the locals to gather as much info as he can. They even show him where to find water and where to get food etc etc..... IMO this is not survival just clever film making..... Bear Grylls is more entertaining too...

[MG Man]

ok folks, one fundamental flaw with this who e debate is the definition of God
What / who is god? is it merely the architect of this existence? Is it some great overseer that demands reverence and adulation?

This is a very important starting point. For example, as I have said in other threads, suppose this universe is just a lab experiment being run by students from some infinitely higher plane of existence? Then yes, there would be a creator, but from that 'creator's context, he's just an average joe..............see my point?