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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby marlener » February 24th, 2013, 7:54 am

AdamB the man jump in and make statements of no God and a general statement about several religions so I was giving him an opportunity to clarify his statement before dismiss him as a troll and attention seeker.I think everybody entitled to their opinion,but somethings are for talk and others for thought,if you get my drift.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 24th, 2013, 9:17 pm

marlener wrote:somethings are for talk and others for thought
well we are here to talk about what we thought.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby DFC » February 25th, 2013, 1:33 am

Muslim chic i'm with wants me to convert to Islam.

Well umm.......
Ok but i not giving up pork.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby AdamB » February 25th, 2013, 7:48 am

marlener wrote:AdamB the man jump in and make statements of no God and a general statement about several religions so I was giving him an opportunity to clarify his statement before dismiss him as a troll and attention seeker.I think everybody entitled to their opinion,but somethings are for talk and others for thought,if you get my drift.

Check this out and search his posts, d man post this his first post 5 minutes after he join tuner: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=63588

There are pretenders among us....

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby AdamB » February 25th, 2013, 7:52 am

DFC wrote:Muslim chic i'm with wants me to convert to Islam.

Well umm.......
Ok but i not giving up pork.

Well if yuh telling the truth (which is highly questionable), isn't it ironic that given your position and views on GOD and Islam, that ALLAH will reach out to you in this way? Handing an olive branch, possible reverting to the truth and a means for entrance into jannah/paradise?

Or is it that the evidence is being established against you? The bottom line it's your CHOICE!!

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Sacchetto Boutique » February 25th, 2013, 10:35 am

DFC wrote:Muslim chic i'm with wants me to convert to Islam.

Well umm.......
Ok but i not giving up pork.


hmm i see this as an excellent opportunity for you to really sit down and learn more about islam before u make any decisions on what to follow. Read the quran, learn about the life of the prophet mohammad (pbuh) as well as all the other prophets and the hadiths.

btw..this is a lil graphic I did for a website Im working on to show that in islam we beleive in all the prophets too.
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http://www.understandislamtoday.org

its work in progress...

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby DFC » February 25th, 2013, 11:51 am

AdamB wrote:
DFC wrote:Muslim chic i'm with wants me to convert to Islam.

Well umm.......
Ok but i not giving up pork.

Well if yuh telling the truth (which is highly questionable), isn't it ironic that given your position and views on GOD and Islam, that ALLAH will reach out to you in this way? Handing an olive branch, possible reverting to the truth and a means for entrance into jannah/paradise?

Or is it that the evidence is being established against you? The bottom line it's your CHOICE!!



Its funny i agree, but its not Allah reaching out to me, its the lubs and the monneh .
The chic aint all that religious, but her parents are strict muslim.



Sacchetto Boutique wrote:hmm i see this as an excellent opportunity for you to really sit down and learn more about islam before u make any decisions on what to follow. Read the quran, learn about the life of the prophet mohammad (pbuh) as well as all the other prophets and the hadiths.

btw..this is a lil graphic I did for a website Im working on to show that in islam we beleive in all the prophets too.
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http://www.understandislamtoday.org

its work in progress...



I'm Half Muslim eh, got alot of madinga blood in me mixed with brahmin with a tinge of chamar.
I grew up reading Quran, Ramayan and Bible.

But i've realised that ALL religions,(except Pastafarianism) are Cages.
All religions create division, segregation, elitism, which is the cause of genocides, ethnic cleansing, religious wars, terrorism, spanish inquisition, Jihad, etc.


"My religion is more peaceful than yours and if you disagree i will kill you"

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby AllTrac » February 25th, 2013, 11:55 am

DFC wrote:
AdamB wrote:
DFC wrote:Muslim chic i'm with wants me to convert to Islam.

Well umm.......
Ok but i not giving up pork.

Well if yuh telling the truth (which is highly questionable), isn't it ironic that given your position and views on GOD and Islam, that ALLAH will reach out to you in this way? Handing an olive branch, possible reverting to the truth and a means for entrance into jannah/paradise?

Or is it that the evidence is being established against you? The bottom line it's your CHOICE!!



Its funny i agree, but its not Allah reaching out to me, its the lubs and the monneh .
The chic aint all that religious, but her parents are strict muslim.



Sacchetto Boutique wrote:hmm i see this as an excellent opportunity for you to really sit down and learn more about islam before u make any decisions on what to follow. Read the quran, learn about the life of the prophet mohammad (pbuh) as well as all the other prophets and the hadiths.

btw..this is a lil graphic I did for a website Im working on to show that in islam we beleive in all the prophets too.
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http://www.understandislamtoday.org

its work in progress...



I'm Half Muslim eh, got alot of madinga blood in me mixed with brahmin with a tinge of chamar.
I grew up reading Quran, Ramayan and Bible.

But i've realised that ALL religions,(except Pastafarianism) are Cages.
All religions create division, segregation, elitism, which is the cause of genocides, ethnic cleansing, religious wars, terrorism, spanish inquisition, Jihad, etc.


"My religion is more peaceful than yours and if you disagree i will kill you"


the min your blood is mixed you are not a Brahmin, you could be everything else stated but sorry bro, you dont have that Brahmin claim. You have been informed.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby TonyM » February 25th, 2013, 12:00 pm

Sacchetto, your website has a video titled "Number of stars that converted to Islam" and another titled "Christian takes down in tears after an answer by Sheikh Yusuf Estes".

This is why I think religious people are small minded and Sacchetto is proving it with her religion.

Exactly what credit is it to a religion that a "star" has converted? I've heard muslims say "Neil Armstrong converted to islam" or "Micheal Jackson" etc.
Is your religion so weak that you need to market it through endorsement by popular people?
What happens if it's a lie or if they convert to Hinduism after? Aot of stars take up vedic religion and chanting.
Also what about the fact that most stars are Christian and alot more of them are atheist than muslim. Does that give more credibility to those?

By the way your video says Dave Chapelle is muslim, which he is apparently, but have you seen his comedy shows? http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/805c5a ... -night-out

And then the other video "Christian takes down in tears after an answer by Sheikh Yusuf Estes". Is that how you convince people that your religion is good? By claiming that you conquered another religion and made a Christian cry?

You are pathetic and so is religion. All religion.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » February 25th, 2013, 12:07 pm

worse yet, she sellin designer bags..........things of the evil western infidels
what a retarded hypocrite

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Dizzy28 » February 25th, 2013, 12:12 pm

MG Man wrote:worse yet, she sellin designer bags..........things of the evil western infidels
what a retarded hypocrite


The bags probably sewn in Bangladesh or Pakistan..so it halal!

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby TonyM » February 25th, 2013, 12:12 pm

they also put a donate button on the page. For a while I thought I was on a Pastor Cuffie website.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby AdamB » February 25th, 2013, 12:15 pm

MG Man wrote:worse yet, she sellin designer bags..........things of the evil western infidels
what a retarded hypocrite

Just like liming, what wrong with selling designer bags? If someone willing to pay $2000 for something that could be knocked off for $200, then what's wrong with that? Market segmentation...each has a demand.

She not worshipping other (false) gods by doing so.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Sacchetto Boutique » February 25th, 2013, 12:20 pm

LOL ..hmm ok this so isnt going the way it was intended. You may call me anything you want. I only tried to show people that there are famous persons who follow islam too but you know what, I realise that once anyone tries to share anything about islam, they will be bashed so I've decided not post anything further in this thread. Carry on with the discussion though :)

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » February 25th, 2013, 12:22 pm

AdamB wrote:
MG Man wrote:worse yet, she sellin designer bags..........things of the evil western infidels
what a retarded hypocrite

Just like liming, what wrong with selling designer bags? If someone willing to pay $2000 for something that could be knocked off for $200, then what's wrong with that? Market segmentation...each has a demand.

She not worshipping other (false) gods by doing so.


then why not sell alcohol too?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » February 25th, 2013, 12:24 pm

Sacchetto Boutique wrote:LOL ..hmm ok this so isnt going the way it was intended. You may call me anything you want. I only tried to show people that there are famous persons who follow islam too but you know what, I realise that once anyone tries to share anything about islam, they will be bashed so I've decided not post anything further in this thread. Carry on with the discussion though :)



lol
at least AdamB has enough conviction to take the heat
if you took the time to peruse this ched, you'd see christians were bashed to a pulp, so too hindus and atheists

and as said before, what does showing that celebrities are muslims accomplish?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby DFC » February 25th, 2013, 12:24 pm

AdamB wrote:
MG Man wrote:worse yet, she sellin designer bags..........things of the evil western infidels
what a retarded hypocrite

Just like liming, what wrong with selling designer bags? If someone willing to pay $2000 for something that could be knocked off for $200, then what's wrong with that? Market segmentation...each has a demand.

She not worshipping other (false) gods by doing so.


Which False Gods you referring to?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 25th, 2013, 12:28 pm

easy with the name calling guys - we can have a mature conversation without name calling.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » February 25th, 2013, 12:31 pm

I called no names
I used adjectives

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Dizzy28 » February 25th, 2013, 12:43 pm

On the heels of the Oscars and for those who may have saw it - Anyone with thoughts on Life of Pi and its underlying spiritual undertones. I highly suspect it wouldn't be too well received amongst Islam with its theme of you (the individual) choosing whichever story you want to believe in wrt to God.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » February 25th, 2013, 12:53 pm

I thought it was a great movie. Saw it three times in le movietowne
I like the fact that it ultimately said 'it's up to you to decide what you believe, brah', which goes against most religious doctrine........... plus, tigers are badass

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby TonyM » February 25th, 2013, 1:08 pm

Sacchetto Boutique wrote:LOL ..hmm ok this so isnt going the way it was intended. You may call me anything you want. I only tried to show people that there are famous persons who follow islam too but you know what, I realise that once anyone tries to share anything about islam, they will be bashed so I've decided not post anything further in this thread. Carry on with the discussion though :)
yes but what credit is that to Islam? You are not helping your religion only making it seem worst.

Why is anyone sharing something about Islam bashed? Is something wrong with Islam?

I am sure those videos made you feel even more convinced of your faith in your religion because "Simple minds are satisfied by simplistic explanations". But if Islam is so great and so true then do things that can convince intelligent people of this. Using gimmicks (stars convert to islam) and then bashing another religion (making a christian cry) to prove your point will only convince small minded people and deter intelligent people.

Are there any intelligent people who follow Islam today? Someone who invented something major, Nobel Prize winner, pulitzer prize, medical breakthrough, major cure, scientific genius?
Seems if they are not blowing something up, threatening to kill someone, removing peoples rights or fighting they are using gimmicks to convince weak minds.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby M_2NR » February 25th, 2013, 11:03 pm

On a side note...
What did I read here?!
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/woman-ma ... 44171.html

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TonyM, LOLOL back again? good to know that's what u consider intelligent. May be you should try and research for yourself. Some of the principles used in medicine, math, etc. used today were developed by... Guess? And you know exactly where to find those answers.

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This thread really has turned into a pot of who strokes their e-religion stick the best sadly. Where each poster seemingly tries to stir up emotions and seem to achieve something great when another "beats up" :lol:
Carry on.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 25th, 2013, 11:16 pm

A lesson learnt from the story of Abraham and Sarah

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One day in 2010, I walked into my paternal grandmother's house and discovered that a picture of my one of my father's outside childen on her graduation day was placed in front of mine (my graduation picture) on a stand somewhere in the corner of my grandmother's house. I believe it was the day of some family gathering. I had just returned from the United States. I flew into a rage, and my father, the adulterer, did not side with me (at least he did not side with me enough). Even my paternal grandmother, thought that I was out of place for throwing my temper tantrum.

The one person in the family (on my father's side), the one person in the family and who was present that day, who ought to have done more, who ought to have said more, my uncle the pastor (talk about honky-tonk Christian), did not. I have since given up fighting with these idiots. But I have remained staunch in my heart that the picture of my father's outside child should not have been in front of mine (his first and legitimate born daughter within the confines of marriage), and staunch in my heart that it should have never been in my paternal grand-mother's house. My father had three children as a result of extramarital affairs – I thank God each day that he did not bring home some STD for my mother, and no, they do not all have the same mothers). My view is that they should never have been embraced by my father's family; they should have never been embraced, period.

I couldn't resist; so sometime last year, I approached my pastor and asked him about this theory of mine, that children born as a result of extramarital affairs ought to be "put away (yes, I spent about two years pining over this because I insist that my younger sister and I should not have been treated as second class citizens; I insist!)." I referenced the story of Abraham and Sarah in Genesis 21:9-14. I told him what my interpretation of that verse was: that in the same way that Sarah told Abraham to send away Hagar and Ishmael and that God backed Sarah up so that Abraham had to send them away, and God considered Isaac the child of the covenant, and made sure that he got the inheritance promised to Abraham, should not my father and others like him do the same? Get this! His response was yes. Well my heart had never leaped with joy more than it had leaped that day. I had always suspected that I was right, but now I had confirmation of my rightness and the Lord, God himself, was on my side and in agreement.

My pastor went on to say that while the world would see such an action as cold and heartless, God had a different view of things. He noted that while Abraham gave Hagar and Ishmael some supplies and sent them off, and while God told Abraham that he would give Ishmael his own inheritance, Abraham, in the end, had to send off Hagar and Ishmael. Isaac was the child of the covenant. You see, although Abraham had made his mistake (even though goaded by Sarah), he did not have to continue in his mistake. And he did not.

But in this present world people think that outside children and legitimate children can co-exist peacefully and try to foster such circumstances, creating only more havoc and resentment as they go. I would know, my father is one such adulterous father. I know, too, of some men who think themselves "men, men" because they are able to take care of both their legitimate families and illegitimate ones. Mistresses (or "out-side women" as mistresses are called here) like to act as if they have rights (and they have none!). And half-children like to act (and I cannot really blame them for acting that way, for the present world, soaked as it is in its immorality has empowered them to do so because of its failure to call a spade a spade. They believe they are entitled to the status of legitimate children; my father's outside children believe this as well. They believe they have the same rights as children born within the confines of marriage.

I know that some are thinking that I am on some sort of tirade, but I have grown tired of this world and its political correctness. No one wants to call a spade a spade anymore. A fornicator is now called a sexually liberated individual; a single mother (particularly one who chooses to be so) is now called an empowered woman; "jammettes" and "jaggabats" are called musical entertainers and the list goes on! The fact remains that children born as the result of an extramarital affair "have no share in the inheritance" of those born within the confines of a marriage and lawful children should not be treated as the problems and second-class citizens. And a man's loyalty, after his affair, goes back to and lies to his children (and of course, his wife) who are a product of that marriage.
I just wish this world would get it right.

Author's note: What happens when a woman cheats and has a child as a result? I suppose that complicates things, and things might be done differently. But I do know, that where men are concerned, his lawful children must take precedence. God considers marriage a covenant, and prizes the children of that covenant. I should add, too, that because of the indiscretion of Abraham, leading to the birth of Ishmael, there is no peace in the Middle East.
what!?? :o

what if she was an "outside child"? Would she be singing the same song?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby DFC » February 26th, 2013, 12:34 am

I had a discussion today with some Jehovah's Witness.

Discussion was going interesting until Lena, the oldest of the group, told me that the Bible is the oldest book in existence.

I was basically normel until i heard that statement and i lost my sheit and flipped out.

So i started to give her a breakdown of World Religion from the time of Krishna in 3220 BCE to Ancient Egyptians, Sumerians come down to Pastafarian.

She say, "THE BIBLE IS THE OLDEST SCRIPTURE IN EARTH, THANK YOU, WE ARE LEAVING NOW."

And the whole group of them quickly exited my heathen lair.


Well that was disappointing.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Dizzy28 » February 26th, 2013, 8:18 am

^ You good yes. They can't get even 1 min of my time from me anymore.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Habit7 » February 26th, 2013, 8:39 am

DFC wrote:I had a discussion today with some Jehovah's Witness.
Discussion was going interesting until Lena, the oldest of the group, told me that the Bible is the oldest book in existence.
I was basically normel until i heard that statement and i lost my sheit and flipped out.
So i started to give her a breakdown of World Religion from the time of Krishna in 3220 BCE to Ancient Egyptians, Sumerians come down to Pastafarian.
She say, "THE BIBLE IS THE OLDEST SCRIPTURE IN EARTH, THANK YOU, WE ARE LEAVING NOW."
And the whole group of them quickly exited my heathen lair.
Well that was disappointing.

Yeah its really unfortunate when people are not intellectually accurate.

Like when they post a meme bashing creationism yet including the scientifically debunked Haeckel's Diagram in it.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 26th, 2013, 11:08 am

Habit7 wrote:
DFC wrote:I had a discussion today with some Jehovah's Witness.
Discussion was going interesting until Lena, the oldest of the group, told me that the Bible is the oldest book in existence.
I was basically normel until i heard that statement and i lost my sheit and flipped out.
So i started to give her a breakdown of World Religion from the time of Krishna in 3220 BCE to Ancient Egyptians, Sumerians come down to Pastafarian.
She say, "THE BIBLE IS THE OLDEST SCRIPTURE IN EARTH, THANK YOU, WE ARE LEAVING NOW."
And the whole group of them quickly exited my heathen lair.
Well that was disappointing.

Yeah its really unfortunate when people are not intellectually accurate.

Like when they post a meme bashing creationism yet including the scientifically debunked Haeckel's Diagram in it.
so give us some intellectually accurate data supporting a universe that is 6000 only years old

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Re: The Religion Discussion

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