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[trent]

http://www.crictime.com/watch-live-cric ... ming-7.htm

[shaneelal]

T Best came so close eh. 95 for a last man that's pretty dam good wish he could of made his 100.

Tino still broke a record, with his 95 he has the highest score by a #11.

[firstchoicett]

I see they got a good start 3 wickets already down.

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219/5

[firstchoicett]

Hmmm game looks like its a draw .

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rain save England,awaits Saturday.

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Everybody fcuking up Ramdin now yes.


Ramdin regrets attack on Richards


Viv Richards bowed to no one. His opponents, mostly bowlers, often paid obeisance to him. They did so not only out of respect but also out of fear that he might hit back powerfully with bat in hand. Denesh Ramdin now knows the feeling.

Ramdin, the West Indies wicketkeeper-batsman, after reaching his second Test century, reacted by unfolding a plain white sheet of paper from his trouser pocket on which was scribbled in capital words "YEH, VIV, TALK NAH." It was a retort to Richards' scathing assessment of his deteriorating form after he had managed only 51 runs and kept wicket inconsistently in the first two Tests.

At the end of the day's play, though, an embarrassed Ramdin admitted he had gone overboard and that his statement, which he had prepared on Saturday morning, was an "emotional" one.

"Sir Viv had something in the press," he said. "I think I got a bit emotional and it came out the way it did. He is a legend of the Caribbean. I still look up to him. If I see him anywhere I will still call him out and probably have a drink with him."

Richards, a former West Indies captain, who is in England as a radio commentator, had lost his patience with Ramdin, whose scores in the series read 1, 43, 1 and 6 respectively. This from a man who had promised at least three fifties and possibly even a century before leaving the Caribbean.

"I can't remember the statement quite clearly, but it was a bit hurtful to me," Ramdin said. "I went to the nets, worked hard, came out and proved myself to the critics."

When Ramdin does walk up to Richards to apologise, he had better do it from a safe distance because Richards seems miffed at being dragged into an unnecessary incident.

"I am the one who touted him as a future captain for West Indies and always thought of him as good but his form had dipped quite recently and I addressed those issues," Richards told ESPNcricinfo. "I questioned his ability because he had lost his confidence and thereby lost his shape."


Denesh Ramdin brandishes his piece note © Getty Images
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Richards said Ramdin's emotive gesture after reaching the century was unnecessary, especially because West Indies have already lost the series.

"It is like being in a football match and your team is losing 5-0 and up comes a guy, scores a goal and starts jumping out of joy.

"He has played well and if you're given enough chances you're going to get it done. He should be happy and humble. I think I remember saying he'd lost his confidence, but I'm on the other side of the fence now and I'm here to do a job - there's no sentiment in it. I'm glad that he got the motivation from it. Let's not forget this is in a losing cause -- the team's not winning."

Opinion is growing that Ramdin should be disciplined. Michael Holding said Ramdin had gone down in his estimation and called for the Trinidadian to be given a dressing down and fined. By now Ramdin, recalled to the West Indies squad after a two-year absence, will have recognised that his reaction overshadowed the quality of his second Test century.

He also scored his maiden Test century against England, in a high-scoring draw in Barbados. West Indies played 29 Tests between then and the start of the England tour; Ramdin missed 18 of those. At 27, he is one of the most experienced player in the West Indies squad.

Marlon Samuels had raised a solid platform on Saturday with a brilliant fifty, but his departure, an over before the second new ball was taken late in the evening, gave England the required opening to widen the cracks. Ramdin, who had been emboldened quickly by Samuels during their crucial 56-run sixth-wicket partnership, took on the onus of shepherding the lower order.

Even Ramdin would not have been prepared for the fairy tale that Tino Best was scripting at the other end.

"It was amazing the way that Tino came out and played. He played some unbelievable shots. I did not think he had those shots in his armoury. He expressed himself. That's the way Tino plays."

Best not only listened to his senior batsman, he kept the atmosphere lighthearted and helped Ramdin to relax. "He kept saying: 'Keep going, big dog. You go out there, you get your 100 and then you bat with me to get my 50.' I told him I'll be there when he gets his hundred but unfortunately he got carried away and he didn't get there."

There was one other man who got carried away and Ramdin knows to his detriment who that is. His statement will no doubt make the cricket book of infamous quotes. Richards might go on to pardon him but each time Ramdin takes to the crease, he needs to deliver. If he fails, someone out there will be ready with a paper displaying the words: "YEH, DENESH, TALK NAH!"

[hydroep]

Ramdin acted like a schoolboy there. Disappointing.

[trent]

ODI's shud b exciting...can't wait!

[firstchoicett]

Well the game not coming live but I think sportmax will bring it.

[Mercenary]

Viv is not GOD. Ramdin's response was emotional. Hope he is more consistent now with the bat. In a team of failing batsmen...I was surprised when Viv loud him out alone. But its all for the best IMHO.

[firstchoicett]

Match Draw.

[trent]

Poor Ramdin

[UML]

allyuh find anything wrong with ramdhin action??? i doh feels its such a big deal as they making it. viv cud give talk and cant take talk? many sportsmen write comments on their undergarments...like footballers when they score flash the crowd the comment. i doh hear ppl calling for their head.

i think is more about...wahm to this lil indian boy that want to take on a big black man

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he did get ah fine inno^

[Country_Bookie]

What Viv said in the papers and in the commentary booth was uncalled for. Ramdin was dropped for most of the last 2 years and is now making his comeback against the #1 team in the world in difficult playing conditions. He made 43 in the 1st test to give us a chance of winning.
How come he never say Kirk Edwards or Kieran Powell look lost?

We also don't know what else Viv may have said to Ramdin privately, as the article below shows, he can be a spiteful and nasty old man at times:

Former chairman of the West Indies cricket selectors, Sir Vivian Richards, and the other members of his panel, Joey Carew and Gordon Greenidge have been accused of being dictatorial, intimidatory and spiteful.

According to a source on the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB), Richards may have taken “in front” when he “opted” to give up his position on the selection panel, in preference to a contract with the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), as a commentator for the present England tour.

“Richards knew that he was unlikely to be retained. We received a letter from the Players Association (WIPA), which expressed concerns about his conduct as chairman of the panel.

“In fact, WIPA was forced to intervene on behalf of no less than six players who described the conduct of Richards and other members of his panel as dictatorial, intimidatory and spiteful.
“Players reported that they were bullied and belittled by Richards, who often came into their dressing room and instead of trying to motivate them, told them some very hurtful things.” The source said the Board was quite concerned over the contents of WIPA’s letter and may have decided in any case not to continue with Richards.

“Although allegations have also been made against Carew, we felt that it would not be in our best interest to remove him at this stage. We opted instead for continuity,” it was stated.

It is also well known that while there are efforts to gloss over it, Richards’ relationships with certain key men in the current team, including captain Brian Lara, are quite strained.

“Richards confronted Lara on certain things he wrote in his column in the Trinidad Guardian and told him that as far as he was concerned, he should not be writing,” said our source.

When contacted, WIPA chairman Dinanath Ramnarine confirmed that his association had written to the Board and complained about the behaviour of the selectors.

Ramnarine said WIPA wanted an investigation.

He said he had received several complaints from players who did not want to be identified because they felt they would be victimised.

“I am indeed satisfied that no team can perform at its full potential in an atmosphere in which autocratic conduct, spite and discord are ever present. It is the Association’s view that a selector’s duty is a sacred one, rooted in fair play and trust,” said Ramnarine.

The WIPA chairman, who took 45 wickets for the West Indies in only 12 Test matches, said it was not his intention to be involved in a war of words with Richards, who yesterday described him as “one of the laziest individuals you could ever find.”
Ramnarine said: “Sir Viv has made a great contribution to the game and there is nothing that anyone can do to change that. I wish him well in his new role as a broadcaster with the BBC.”

That said, Ramdin should've been more subtle in his response to Viv, perhaps a note saying "Just 4 u Viv". Sometimes a pen knife can be more effective than a mighty sword.

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what's done,cannot be undone.Ramdin jes hada make sure he bat like he never bat before now.

[firstchoicett]

what's done,cannot be undone.Ramdin jes hada make sure he bat like he never bat before now.

X2

[trent]

WI: 335/4 (50 overs) vs Middlesex
Darren Bravo: 112
Dwayne Smith: 96
Impressive...

[firstchoicett]

Very nice score .

[kual]

After looking at this side, the names are big names and the guys have to capability to put up any score and chase any score. So I guess we are just looking at the conditions now?

[Cid]

thank god for viv and his actions.....

It made Ramdin work harder , train more and get a hundred ....well done viv...

Ramdin should grow a pair

[trent]

WI (335/4) beat Middlesex (107 all out) by 228 runs

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hope they could repeat such a performance on Saturday.

[kual]

you all think they are dropping anyone for Samuels? I think Sammy for Samuels. What do you all think?

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they cyah drop the captain,live with it bai..lmao

[trent]

Mayb Simmons for Samuels but then they'l hav to move up Dwayne Smith to open with Gayle

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any1 know how the ODI squad looking,not seeing it at all.

[firstchoicett]

you suppose to see it on espn cricket site.

[bluefete]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/page2/conte ... 68297.html