PNM in Gov't (2020-2025)

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Mariginals simple question.....Has your life improved with Keith Rowley as PM for the last 9 years?

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What the Constitution says

[PariaMan]

So, as MD states, there is no occasion right now to select a PM, so what the PM did is really put the cart before the horse

If the vacancy does arise then the existing MPs will have to state that Stuart is the leader of the party in the house at that point in time

So saying so now is obviously premature.

[pugboy]

how was george chambers appointed after eric sudden death?
was there a party vote?

[PariaMan]

how was george chambers appointed after eric sudden death?
was there a party vote?

The president has the job of deciding who she feels has the support.

Sir Elis, at the time, made the call

There is nothing wrong if our existing president makes a decision but I believe it is in the long term benefit of both the country and the PNM that they call a special meeting to select a New political leader before the next election .

[PariaMan]

Is it fair to Stuart to go into a GE knowing that nine out of 20
MPs did not support him as leader.

Let him if he becomes political leader select his own team

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Is it fair to Stuart to go into a GE knowing that nine out of 20
MPs did not support him as leader.

Let him if he becomes political leader select his own team

He clearly doesn't have the respect of those 9 ppl and when push comes to shove they will be reluctant to obey any directives from him.

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[wing]

I, sir, am not a diehard. I actually voted Kamla in 2010 and Rowley twice.

I just do not like how Rowley canceled the internal elections and seems to be bent on pressuring the president to select Stuart after he resigns

He has not learned from Kamala's mistake that it's best the rank and file select you first before you go to the poles.

For me, it's just strange that in many person's minds, Kamla winning by a landslide, and now that Rowley gone, Stuart is the PM select but the persons who have the most problems are UNC people.

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I, sir, am not a diehard. I actually voted Kamla in 2010 and Rowley twice.

I just do not like how Rowley canceled the internal elections and seems to be bent on pressuring the president to select Stuart after he resigns

He has not learned from Kamala's mistake that it's best the rank and file select you first before you go to the poles.

For me, it's just strange that in many person's minds, Kamla winning by a landslide, and now that Rowley gone, Stuart is the PM select but the persons who have the most problems are UNC people.

Has your life improved with Keith Rowley as PM for the last 9 years? Ask the common man this question

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[paid_influencer]

how was george chambers appointed after eric sudden death?
was there a party vote?

In the days following the death of former Prime Minister Eric Williams, Chambers, by then one of three PNM deputy leaders, was summoned to President's House on March 30, along with the other two PNM deputies, Kamal Mohammed and Errol Mahabir.

Reports indicate he was not told why the meeting was being held, but he was later informed that he had been chosen to succeed Williams.

It was a decision that caused not a few double takes. Little was known about the new PM other than his ministerial postings and the fact that he was a voracious reader, enjoyed sea-bathing and was something of an authority on opera.

If he appeared lime-light-shy, he put it aside to appeal in his first address to the nation to assist him in achieving Williams' goals. Forty-two days later he was elected leader of the PNM.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061014013 ... mbers.html

[paid_influencer]

I, sir, am not a diehard. I actually voted Kamla in 2010 and Rowley twice.

I just do not like how Rowley canceled the internal elections and seems to be bent on pressuring the president to select Stuart after he resigns

He has not learned from Kamala's mistake that it's best the rank and file select you first before you go to the poles.

For me, it's just strange that in many person's minds, Kamla winning by a landslide, and now that Rowley gone, Stuart is the PM select but the persons who have the most problems are UNC people.

fwiw i was supporting penny. i could live with a penny govt

the stuart young/chambers option is a recipe for chaos

[PariaMan]

Well Sir Elis thought the was the one

He went on to win 1981 elections as political leader

[pugboy]

i recall chambers was the one who requested a blonde as part of a bribe

[paid_influencer]

Well Sir Elis thought the was the one

He went on to win 1981 elections as political leader

problem with him was he never had the charisma, ground support or political acumen to keep it going. his base walked away from him.

same might happen wit young if he can't perform. he might well be popular with the base tho idk

[paid_influencer]

We are already at the end of the flush. The crap is arriving. If not arrived for a alot of ppl already

[widdyphuck]

What's the history behind Eric Williams Death?

[paid_influencer]

saw this post from Robin Montano, who is apparently a betting man like myself.

Robin Montano

Tuesday, January 7, 2025
YOUNG FOR PRIME MINISTER? Part 2

Well, so far it seems that I am losing my bet with myself that the PNM will never choose Stuart Young as their leader. It seems that the whispers that I picked up on Monday were true in that the support for Mr. Young to be leader of the PNM were true. The latest whispers are that there was a certain amount of 'bribery' (for want of a better word) in that certain people were promised certain things if they supported Mr. Young. Is this true? I haven't the foggiest idea. My sources are the same as on Monday when I got the word that this was Dr. Rowley's plan before it was announced.

Now, having got the support of the Parliamentary caucus behind him (the reports are 11 in favour with 9 against) the next step will be the General Council. If Mr. Young wins there then he will be the next Prime Minister whenever Dr. Rowley chooses to step down. So what could happen next?

First of all, understand that a Prime Minister is chosen by the President from the person who in the opinion of the President is likely to be able to command a majority IN THE HOUSE Of REPRESENTATIVES. And that is where the General Council can come in. The General Council can threaten, for example, the present M.P.'s that they will lose the backing of the Party if they vote for Mr. Young.

The Opposition can, in the meantime, file a motion of no confidence in the Lower House which will give them an opportunity to highlight the problems in the ruling PNM. Dr. Rowley can avoid this for the time being by proroguing the Parliament - but this will only be a temporary fix of about 3 months. Remember also that according to the Constitution, Parliament has to meet only once every 6 months according to the Constitution, so he can simply avoid calling the Parliament after the debate that has to be held on the State of Emergency

No matter which way it turns, we are looking at a General Election, probably sooner rather than later. In the meantime, Dr. Rowley can continue to control the country - even after he demits office as Mr. Young has absolutely zero support either in the Party or in the country and will be completely dependent on Dr. Rowley for support.

Actually, that may have been Dr. Rowley's plan to hold on to power all along! He is, after all, a superb politician.

I think Robin has a good point here.

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how was george chambers appointed after eric sudden death?
was there a party vote?

The president has the job of deciding who she feels has the support.

Sir Elis, at the time, made the call

There is nothing wrong if our existing president makes a decision but I believe it is in the long term benefit of both the country and the PNM that they call a special meeting to select a New political leader before the next election .

Elis was a puppet of the PNM and did what he was told by the PNM big wigs

This guy broke his own Constitution law, as he was the one who copied and pasted it from other commonwealth countries at that time. He was a fraud.

The PNM made sure that Kamaladin Mohammed never got it as they did not want an Indian to be Prime Minister. This was stated by Kamaladin himself and other big up PNM members years after Elis's death so as not to offend him.

Few tuners here will know of this history or even know Chambers, Chambers never wanted tobe Prime Minister.

[PariaMan]

It's all very strange that Rowley is trying to impose Stuart Young on us without going thru a political leader election

But we should not be surprised after the internal elections were canceled

As the saying goes, we should judge a man not by a record of his intentions but by his actions

Rowleys actions are more dictatorial than ever at the moment

Reference also to when local elections were postponed for frivolous reasons

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What's the history behind Eric Williams Death?

He was a pipe smoker and got throat cancer

[The_Honourable]

saw this post from Robin Montano, who is apparently a betting man like myself.

Robin Montano

Tuesday, January 7, 2025
YOUNG FOR PRIME MINISTER? Part 2

Well, so far it seems that I am losing my bet with myself that the PNM will never choose Stuart Young as their leader. It seems that the whispers that I picked up on Monday were true in that the support for Mr. Young to be leader of the PNM were true. The latest whispers are that there was a certain amount of 'bribery' (for want of a better word) in that certain people were promised certain things if they supported Mr. Young. Is this true? I haven't the foggiest idea. My sources are the same as on Monday when I got the word that this was Dr. Rowley's plan before it was announced.

Now, having got the support of the Parliamentary caucus behind him (the reports are 11 in favour with 9 against) the next step will be the General Council. If Mr. Young wins there then he will be the next Prime Minister whenever Dr. Rowley chooses to step down. So what could happen next?

First of all, understand that a Prime Minister is chosen by the President from the person who in the opinion of the President is likely to be able to command a majority IN THE HOUSE Of REPRESENTATIVES. And that is where the General Council can come in. The General Council can threaten, for example, the present M.P.'s that they will lose the backing of the Party if they vote for Mr. Young.

The Opposition can, in the meantime, file a motion of no confidence in the Lower House which will give them an opportunity to highlight the problems in the ruling PNM. Dr. Rowley can avoid this for the time being by proroguing the Parliament - but this will only be a temporary fix of about 3 months. Remember also that according to the Constitution, Parliament has to meet only once every 6 months according to the Constitution, so he can simply avoid calling the Parliament after the debate that has to be held on the State of Emergency

No matter which way it turns, we are looking at a General Election, probably sooner rather than later. In the meantime, Dr. Rowley can continue to control the country - even after he demits office as Mr. Young has absolutely zero support either in the Party or in the country and will be completely dependent on Dr. Rowley for support.

Actually, that may have been Dr. Rowley's plan to hold on to power all along! He is, after all, a superb politician.

I think Robin has a good point here.

Good points, the thing is Rowley will still be political leader. His big stick will be out so more than likely, general council would not be threatening anybody. In addition, washing dirty linen in public would give Kamla talking points and an advantage during election season so that alone will keep everyone in the pnm in line.

Filing a motion of no confidence would be interesting, but the pnm will stay in line because their animosity towards Kamla overrides their issues with Stuart.

[The_Honourable]

FYI the PNM’s General Council is made up of:

• Elected and appointed Officers of the Movement (party executive)
• representatives from all 41 constituencies,
• representatives of the Women’s League,
• representatives of the Youth League,
• representatives of the Tobago Council
• representatives of the Legislative Group
• and members of the Government (who are ex-officio).

It's lead by the Political Leader, Chairman and General Secretary (Rowley, Stuart and Cummings)

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FYI the PNM’s General Council is made up of:

• Elected and appointed Officers of the Movement (party executive)
• representatives from all 41 constituencies,
• representatives of the Women’s League,
• representatives of the Youth League,
• representatives of the Tobago Council
• representatives of the Legislative Group
• and members of the Government (who are ex-officio).

It's lead by the Political Leader, Chairman and General Secretary (Rowley, Stuart and Cummings)

PNM women's league that's still a thing , where were they when the zammie thing was going on.

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[wing]

FYI the PNM’s General Council is made up of:

• Elected and appointed Officers of the Movement (party executive)
• representatives from all 41 constituencies,
• representatives of the Women’s League,
• representatives of the Youth League,
• representatives of the Tobago Council
• representatives of the Legislative Group
• and members of the Government (who are ex-officio).

It's lead by the Political Leader, Chairman and General Secretary (Rowley, Stuart and Cummings)

PNM women's league that's still a thing , where were they when the zammie thing was going on.

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Study how the UNC is one big women's league

[paid_influencer]

FYI the PNM’s General Council is made up of:

• Elected and appointed Officers of the Movement (party executive)
• representatives from all 41 constituencies,
• representatives of the Women’s League,
• representatives of the Youth League,
• representatives of the Tobago Council
• representatives of the Legislative Group
• and members of the Government (who are ex-officio).

It's lead by the Political Leader, Chairman and General Secretary (Rowley, Stuart and Cummings)

do the 'mites on the ground get a say?

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FYI the PNM’s General Council is made up of:

• Elected and appointed Officers of the Movement (party executive)
• representatives from all 41 constituencies,
• representatives of the Women’s League,
• representatives of the Youth League,
• representatives of the Tobago Council
• representatives of the Legislative Group
• and members of the Government (who are ex-officio).

It's lead by the Political Leader, Chairman and General Secretary (Rowley, Stuart and Cummings)

Mere puppets Controlled by 1% at the top followed by the French creoles.

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FYI the PNM’s General Council is made up of:

• Elected and appointed Officers of the Movement (party executive)
• representatives from all 41 constituencies,
• representatives of the Women’s League,
• representatives of the Youth League,
• representatives of the Tobago Council
• representatives of the Legislative Group
• and members of the Government (who are ex-officio).

It's lead by the Political Leader, Chairman and General Secretary (Rowley, Stuart and Cummings)

do the 'mites on the ground get a say?

No.

[wing]

Tobago fall in line

[PariaMan]

Most people are aware that

Anybody with a pulse >> Rowley

Just facts

Rowley was just the National Vexman and Complainer who, in fact, was doing very little for the people of Trinidad and Tobago

He delegated all work to maximize golf and time to complain

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Tobago fall in line

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Beneballs salesmen voting PNM eh no.


Tobago business Chamber is made up of 1%, propaganda media pushing this