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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 6th, 2025, 6:58 pm

fun fact:

Young is the island's second unelected PM. The first and only other unelected PM was George Chambers
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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby 88sins » January 6th, 2025, 6:58 pm

All imma say is this

If either Stuart Little or Clown Impinbottom end up at the helm, PNM will immediately flatline

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » January 6th, 2025, 6:59 pm

paid_influencer wrote:fun fact:

Young is the island's second unelected PM. The first and only other unelected PM was George Chambers
Ironically, Both are shite hounds

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

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Dizzy28 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:lol at Penny

Study stuart came thru the back door, became MP, then minister of everything, now pnm leader, and very soon prime minister... in less than 10 years

HE GET THRU....

Yes, we need a white boy to run the country


He's the son of a Chinese Trini and Indo Trini though


So he is the first PM of Indo-Chinese descent?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 6th, 2025, 7:01 pm

does that mean he is the first Trinidadian of East-Indian descent to be leader of the PNM !??!?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 6th, 2025, 7:03 pm

an Indian leading PNM

IDANDIAN LEADING PNM

ALLYUH HEAR

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 6th, 2025, 7:04 pm

you could see the lil bit of indian in him

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby alfa » January 6th, 2025, 7:05 pm

As much as I dislike PNM I must say that they did two commendable things.
First Rowley step aside when he realized it was his time to move on and not remain to become a cripple or dementia patient hanging on to power
Secondly for the first time in their history they gave a non black person leadership of the party to whom I want to believe they think is the best person for the leader and in the best interest of their party.
This could work massively for or against them. This elections gonna be interesting

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » January 6th, 2025, 8:04 pm

Fitzy really thought he was getting the pm spot...
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » January 6th, 2025, 8:08 pm

Small pin being Chinese or Indian makes no difference.

PNM is still not winning Tobago, and bago holds the keys to the government.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby widdyphuck » January 6th, 2025, 8:14 pm

So PNM voters gonna vote for Stuart Young to fix the problems the PNM created over the last 10 years?
Make it make sense please. :fadein:

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » January 6th, 2025, 8:25 pm

paid_influencer wrote:fun fact:

Young is the island's second unelected PM. The first and only other unelected PM was George Chambers
Tell me you know nothing about the Westminster system without saying you know nothing about the Westminster system

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » January 6th, 2025, 8:29 pm

wtf wrote:So PNM voters gonna vote for Stuart Young to fix the problems the PNM created over the last 10 years?
Make it make sense please. :fadein:
In their eyes PNM created no problems it was kamla and they voting to keep kamla out the treasury meanwhile 1 percent liking they self

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

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Dizzy28 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:fun fact:

Young is the island's second unelected PM. The first and only other unelected PM was George Chambers
Tell me you know nothing about the Westminster system without saying you know nothing about the Westminster system


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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 6th, 2025, 8:54 pm

Indian in charge of the PNM now

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » January 6th, 2025, 8:57 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
wing wrote:But why the beatup and frothing....ent Kamla going to win for sure? Somebody even threatened to ban himself if PNM wins again. The UNC got what they wanted... Rowley gone, what's the problem now? There should be celebrations in wherever the HQ is now, victory for Kamla and the shemales is virtually guaranteed.

You looking to get ban again
Shemales can't support and join the UNC? That's discrimination.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 6th, 2025, 9:01 pm

wing how do you feel about t&t being guaranteed a prime minister of trinidadian of indian descent

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » January 6th, 2025, 9:03 pm

hover11 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Told you panzies from the very start,

PNM 2025

Rellllll UNC men like Stuarty eh, plenty plenty big business men.

The black voters still not giving Kamla their vote, and the UNC supporters lil confused right now.

Allyuh have me thinking if Stuart can make a difference…..can he be a better leader than Kamla?

Zoom, Hovie…..what are your thoughts?
Look at the comments on social media alot of black ppl are stating Stuart will never get their votes it has begun. The facade PNM always portrayed was that PNM was a party for the black man and they love them and care for them, how can that continue when Stuart is leader? Like I said before what young man in laventille , morvant, east pos, sealots and beetham voting for a man who never STARVE a day in his life who live the cushy, soft life in the WEST. How a man like Stuart young could possibly understand the trials and tribulations, ghetto youths face , there will be disconnect.



I am told MP Young got 11 votes and MP Beckles got 9 votes. Let that marinate.

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Here's the thing tho, all this talk that he never starve and he wasn't on the ground etc etc... yes some of the black vote might be vex now but you are underestimating the kamla derangement syndrome within the pnm which is stronger. Jump high jump low, they will still vote pnm because under NO circumstances they want to see kamla back in power.

Pnm never cared about the young man in laventille, morvant, east pos, sealots and beetham... but they still vote pnm

You mean the same trials and tribulations with the ghetto youths that going on for decades since our independence?

Now... the unc pretending to care about the poor ghetto youth might backfire on them so they better be careful if they want to venture down that road.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 6th, 2025, 9:11 pm

the election going to be won on the marginals and young probably plays better with the marginals. pnm doesn't have to worry about their safe seats.

what i see as the issue going forward is the george chambers problem

inheriting a position in the party is one thing. winning an election is one thing. but governing as a leader with no ground support is another. all kind of internal gremlin issues come from the party you are given. the other side forces opposed like the unions, don't recognize your leadership and hold sway over the demographic you inherited. the same issues that happened with chambers will repeat themselves if young does indeed win.

I could be wrong and young could command popular support among the pnm grassroots. idk

I think at this point it is enough just to marvel at the spectacle of two parties of indo-descent will be contesting election. for the first time there will not be an afro option. i never in my life thought this would happen and i am glad to have seen it

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » January 6th, 2025, 9:18 pm

Feels like a parody of the US Elections....

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » January 6th, 2025, 10:13 pm

paid_influencer wrote:the election going to be won on the marginals and young probably plays better with the marginals. pnm doesn't have to worry about their safe seats.

what i see as the issue going forward is the george chambers problem

inheriting a position in the party is one thing. winning an election is one thing. but governing as a leader with no ground support is another. all kind of internal gremlin issues come from the party you are given. the other side forces opposed like the unions, don't recognize your leadership and hold sway over the demographic you inherited. the same issues that happened with chambers will repeat themselves if young does indeed win.

I could be wrong and young could command popular support among the pnm grassroots. idk

I think at this point it is enough just to marvel at the spectacle of two parties of indo-descent will be contesting election. for the first time there will not be an afro option. i never in my life thought this would happen and i am glad to have seen it
Tobago will win Trinidad election.


PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » January 6th, 2025, 10:24 pm

Ppl need to wake up and realize the marginals win elections. As far as someone on the fence sees how does Stuart young appear to be the best choice when he will be in charge of the same party that caused undue hardship to the citizens to the past 10 years. Why would ppl vote for Stuart young when they paying more to fill their tanks, more in the groceries, reintroduction of property tax and a stagnant economy?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » January 7th, 2025, 12:16 am

Can Stuart make a difference?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » January 7th, 2025, 2:18 am

The more you think about it, you realize how slick Rowley is

By making this announcement, people are distracted from SOE lite, his backpay, and 2024 having the highest murder toll ever under the pnm. Everybody is paying attention to Rowley's next move. Meanwhile, UNC on the backfoot trying to get themselves together with people questioning if Kamla herself would leave and give younger persons a chance.

As for the pnm, the party is aware Rowley wants Stuart to be political leader a while now. Rowley cancelled the internal party election late last year to make sure that he keeps the status quo and protect Stuart from any person or slate mobilizing against him. You have to give Kamla credit tho, she actually held internal elections and retained her position as political leader.

Since pnm doesn't hold internals in an election year, 2025 is here so now no internals until after general elections. If i interpret correctly, Stuart will become prime minister first while Rowley remains political leader to keep the party in line until and after general elections where a convention is held to elect a new political leader.

If you think about it, general elections will be make or break for Stuart Young. If Stuart wins, the party will get behind and confirm him as the political leader. He can then solidify his position by dealing with persons who disagree with his ascension and leadership... like Jennifer Baptiste-Primus.

Now if Stuart looses... it would be one huge FU to the party if Kamla returns as PM. Bitterness will be held against Stuart and especially Rowley so most likely Penny will become political leader instead. Rowley would be gone and with nobody to protect Stuart and his position as chairman, when internals are held Stuart would be gone (for good?)





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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » January 7th, 2025, 5:32 am

hover11 wrote:Ppl need to wake up and realize the marginals win elections. As far as someone on the fence sees how does Stuart young appear to be the best choice when he will be in charge of the same party that caused undue hardship to the citizens to the past 10 years. Why would ppl vote for Stuart young when they paying more to fill their tanks, more in the groceries, reintroduction of property tax and a stagnant economy?

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It's the UNC that needs to realize this. Getting 20000 votes in Siparia and Chaguanas not going to win government. Unfortunately Kamla cannot command support outside of the strongholds but will fool the diehards with safe seat crowds. The educated and politically mature voters in the marginals has repeatedly rejected the offerings from the UNC henhouse.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » January 7th, 2025, 5:37 am

wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:Ppl need to wake up and realize the marginals win elections. As far as someone on the fence sees how does Stuart young appear to be the best choice when he will be in charge of the same party that caused undue hardship to the citizens to the past 10 years. Why would ppl vote for Stuart young when they paying more to fill their tanks, more in the groceries, reintroduction of property tax and a stagnant economy?

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It's the UNC that needs to realize this. Getting 20000 votes in Siparia and Chaguanas not going to win government. Unfortunately Kamla cannot command support outside of the strongholds but will fool the diehards with safe seat crowds. The educated and politically mature voters in the marginals has repeatedly rejected the offerings from the UNC henhouse.
We shall see, educated marginals not going to fall for this distraction because changing Stuart doesn't change the fact that PNM is the problem. Same khaki pants and to me it just looks like a bootleg US elections. Stuart young isn't liked by the citizens in that regard to win this elections, next we might hear he has grandparents that identify as black to appease core voter base. How does take away that PNM has done absolutely nothing for the country for the past 10 years. The citizens will reject PNM

Anyway, dear public servants on here when u clock in to work today please remember we’re still working on a 2013 salary in 2025 all thanks to PNM. I'm not voting for no fing rich 1 percent man. These people have 0 relatability to the average citizen and will only put policies in place that benefits them and their rich friends. End of discussion

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » January 7th, 2025, 7:29 am

The_Honourable wrote:The more you think about it, you realize how slick Rowley is


the slickest part is Rowley no longer has to face the electorate to account for 10 years of his government. Rowley can he go about the rest of his life with the notion of being an undisputed leader, instead of potentially facing up to rejection by the population at the polls.

With these people, is all ego.

Same with Mikela. She will not run, because to run and lose would destroy her ego permanently.

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Seeing the Express is reporting the vote went 11/9 for Stuart Young. i.e., it was a 10/10 tie until somebody flipped.

A case of one from ten leaves naught.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... af251.html

"He stated that the issue of PNM leadership will be addressed at the PNM Convention on September 28, 2025."

So either Young wins and then gets a mandate from the party, as Chambers did in 1981, or he loses and Penny makes a run and takes over.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » January 7th, 2025, 8:44 am

MaxPower wrote:Can Stuart make a difference?
Not on the plantation.

Hes not hood enough

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » January 7th, 2025, 9:14 am

The_Honourable wrote:The more you think about it, you realize how slick Rowley is

By making this announcement, people are distracted from SOE lite, his backpay, and 2024 having the highest murder toll ever under the pnm. Everybody is paying attention to Rowley's next move. Meanwhile, UNC on the backfoot trying to get themselves together with people questioning if Kamla herself would leave and give younger persons a chance.

As for the pnm, the party is aware Rowley wants Stuart to be political leader a while now. Rowley cancelled the internal party election late last year to make sure that he keeps the status quo and protect Stuart from any person or slate mobilizing against him. You have to give Kamla credit tho, she actually held internal elections and retained her position as political leader.

Since pnm doesn't hold internals in an election year, 2025 is here so now no internals until after general elections. If i interpret correctly, Stuart will become prime minister first while Rowley remains political leader to keep the party in line until and after general elections where a convention is held to elect a new political leader.

If you think about it, general elections will be make or break for Stuart Young. If Stuart wins, the party will get behind and confirm him as the political leader. He can then solidify his position by dealing with persons who disagree with his ascension and leadership... like Jennifer Baptiste-Primus.

Now if Stuart looses... it would be one huge FU to the party if Kamla returns as PM. Bitterness will be held against Stuart and especially Rowley so most likely Penny will become political leader instead. Rowley would be gone and with nobody to protect Stuart and his position as chairman, when internals are held Stuart would be gone (for good?)





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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » January 7th, 2025, 9:47 am

Ah, so Stuart can go from being incompetent in one ministry, to be incompetent running the whole country

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