Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

[aaron17]

Why release a treatment when you can market half baked vaccines as your only salvation

Release the treatment!
Emergency authorization use of vaccine can only be used when there is no treatment. If there is a treatment...they wouldnt have use the vaccines. They hiding these treatment.

Because the 'treatment' you speak of doesn't exist.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

I'll restate what I said. There is no proven 'treatment' the, Ivermectin that these people are parroting has no scientific evidence backing it up. They're also against randomized trials to test it.

Tell that to the flccc doctors who actually treat patients and who are well respected. And u will all label them is misinformation and soo on.

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

[ed360123]

Why release a treatment when you can market half baked vaccines as your only salvation

Release the treatment!
Emergency authorization use of vaccine can only be used when there is no treatment. If there is a treatment...they wouldnt have use the vaccines. They hiding these treatment.

Because the 'treatment' you speak of doesn't exist.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

I'll restate what I said. There is no proven 'treatment' the, Ivermectin that these people are parroting has no scientific evidence backing it up. They're also against randomized trials to test it.

Tell that to the flccc doctors who actually treat patients and who are well respected. And u will all label them is misinformation and soo on.

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

[aaron17]

Why release a treatment when you can market half baked vaccines as your only salvation

Because the 'treatment' you speak of doesn't exist.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

I'll restate what I said. There is no proven 'treatment' the, Ivermectin that these people are parroting has no scientific evidence backing it up. They're also against randomized trials to test it.

Tell that to the flccc doctors who actually treat patients and who are well respected. And u will all label them is misinformation and soo on.

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

[ed360123]

Because the 'treatment' you speak of doesn't exist.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

I'll restate what I said. There is no proven 'treatment' the, Ivermectin that these people are parroting has no scientific evidence backing it up. They're also against randomized trials to test it.

Tell that to the flccc doctors who actually treat patients and who are well respected. And u will all label them is misinformation and soo on.

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

[aaron17]

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

I'll restate what I said. There is no proven 'treatment' the, Ivermectin that these people are parroting has no scientific evidence backing it up. They're also against randomized trials to test it.

Tell that to the flccc doctors who actually treat patients and who are well respected. And u will all label them is misinformation and soo on.

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

[ed360123]

I'll restate what I said. There is no proven 'treatment' the, Ivermectin that these people are parroting has no scientific evidence backing it up. They're also against randomized trials to test it.

Tell that to the flccc doctors who actually treat patients and who are well respected. And u will all label them is misinformation and soo on.

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

[88sins]

This ivermectin nonsense again? Allyuh eh tired?
It's relatively easy to prove if a drug works, whether for its original purpose or as an off label treatment.
But after 6 months of all kinda old talk and anecdotal stories, there is no definitive data indicating that this particular antisemitic has any effect whatsoever on this virus. No solid evidence that is reduces or eliminates the symptoms, the severity, risk of contracting the disease, or the risk of mortality.

If you need more than 6 months and a million people to prove a product does what you claim it does, odds are that you can't, and it doesn't.

[ed360123]

This ivermectin nonsense again? Allyuh eh tired?
It's relatively easy to prove if a drug works, whether for its original purpose or as an off label treatment.
But after 6 months of all kinda old talk and anecdotal stories, there is no definitive data indicating that this particular antisemitic has any effect whatsoever on this virus. No solid evidence that is reduces or eliminates the symptoms, the severity, risk of contracting the disease, or the risk of mortality.

If you need more than 6 months and a million people to prove a product does what you claim it does, odds are that you can't, and it doesn't.

I think you mean antiparasitic and not antisemitic lol.

[aaron17]

Tell that to the flccc doctors who actually treat patients and who are well respected. And u will all label them is misinformation and soo on.

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

[ed360123]

So they refuse to do the trials, are we just supposed to take them at their word? Also 'well respected' by who?

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

[aaron17]

Eg.. see the medical background of the doctors on the site.

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

These are the medical evidence. ..link.
The picture i am seeing it on google search as a pdf. .. idk where to find that on the site exactly.

[ed360123]

You still haven't answered the question, are we just supposed trust these ~4 doctors at their word (who are for some reason, against doing the proper studies) over the general current medical consensus that Ivermectin does not treat COVID?

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

These are the medical evidence. ..link.
The picture i am seeing it on google search as a pdf. .. idk where to find that on the site exactly.

Screenshot_20210912-155153_Drive.jpg

So your evidence is the FLCCC's own website. Again, how am I just supposed to take their own word for it.

I'd suggest you take a thorough read of this article.
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100440624

[redmanjp]

Oxford is doing trials on ivm also.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial

So while we can't say its proven effective we also should not dismiss it yet as just crazy conspiracy theory. Look what happened with that lab leak theory.

[aaron17]

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

These are the medical evidence. ..link.
The picture i am seeing it on google search as a pdf. .. idk where to find that on the site exactly.

Screenshot_20210912-155153_Drive.jpg

So your evidence is the FLCCC's own website. Again, how am I just supposed to take their own word for it.

I'd suggest you take a thorough read of this article.
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100440624

Looks like old news ....i read that long time ago. I heard they are saying now key treatment of using iver is using it early.
I think these are the doctors who are part of flccc. Peter cory and Paul E. Marik. I think Marik made protocols. I can't persuade u . Is everyone have to make a choice.

[redmanjp]

Treatment that is proven is monoclonal antibodies. FDA issued a EUA.

[aaron17]

Signs of covid and early treatment is key.

[Dohplaydat]

If Ivermectin worked I think we would have had evidence by now. Right now best case scenario is that it helps marginally. However, it depends heavily on the timing of the drug. But I am waiting on my studies to see its effectiveness.

At this point in time, other the FDA appoved treatments, there doesn't seem to be anything near a miracle cure treatment for covid-19.

[aaron17]

Treatment that is proven is monoclonal antibodies. FDA issued a EUA.

Heard that

[drchaos]

What kind of studies u are looking for ? Clinical randomized trial ones which WHO oversee?

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

These are the medical evidence. ..link.
The picture i am seeing it on google search as a pdf. .. idk where to find that on the site exactly.Screenshot_20210912-155153_Drive.jpg

So your evidence is the FLCCC's own website. Again, how am I just supposed to take their own word for it.

I'd suggest you take a thorough read of this article.
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100440624

This article is dripping with Bias and should be ignored ...

When you say sheit like "you are not a horse or cow" its basically means you are a dumbass and anti-science.

Amoxicillin and prednisolone are used to treat dogs regularly by VETs.
So we stop using these meds in humans because "you are not a dog"?

[aaron17]

Remember is not only ivermectin...
Is a combination of drugs ..hence the protocol.

[ed360123]

So you don't trust studies either now?

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

These are the medical evidence. ..link.
The picture i am seeing it on google search as a pdf. .. idk where to find that on the site exactly.Screenshot_20210912-155153_Drive.jpg

So your evidence is the FLCCC's own website. Again, how am I just supposed to take their own word for it.

I'd suggest you take a thorough read of this article.
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100440624

This article is dripping with Bias and should be ignored ...

When you say sheit like "you are not a horse or cow" its basically means you are a dumbass and anti-science.

Amoxicillin and prednisolone are used to treat dogs regularly by VETs.
So we stop using these meds in humans because "you are not a dog"?

OK then, if you don't trust the article, you can go to the source. Also the article isn't saying that. That's just a quote from the FDA, which exists because persons in the states were taking livestock grade Ivermectin.

[drchaos]

Oxford is doing trials on ivm also.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial

So while we can't say its proven effective we also should not dismiss it yet as just crazy conspiracy theory. Look what happened with that lab leak theory.

Does Oxford have any conflicts of interest or bias going into this large clinical trial?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

FLCCC has recommended Ivermectin as a preventative drug and a treatment for Covid 19 however there is not enough evidence to support this as yet. Head of FLCCC Pierre Kory resigned his post at Aurora St Luke's Healthcare.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checkin ... 9768999400

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... treat-cov/

FLCCC's paper was rejected
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opin ... tion-68505

Official website of the National Institutes of Health
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines. ... vermectin/

[aaron17]

Idk what u mean . What trials u looking for?

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

These are the medical evidence. ..link.
The picture i am seeing it on google search as a pdf. .. idk where to find that on the site exactly.Screenshot_20210912-155153_Drive.jpg

So your evidence is the FLCCC's own website. Again, how am I just supposed to take their own word for it.

I'd suggest you take a thorough read of this article.
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100440624

This article is dripping with Bias and should be ignored ...

When you say sheit like "you are not a horse or cow" its basically means you are a dumbass and anti-science.

Amoxicillin and prednisolone are used to treat dogs regularly by VETs.
So we stop using these meds in humans because "you are not a dog"?

OK then, if you don't trust the article, you can go to the source. Also the article isn't saying that. That's just a quote from the FDA, which exists because persons in the states were taking livestock grade Ivermectin.

U mean the us fda tweet?

[ed360123]

I'm looking for proper peer-reviewed studies that it's effective.

The flccc site should have it. Can u navigate to it or?

I'm not seeing it. Can you link it to me?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

These are the medical evidence. ..link.
The picture i am seeing it on google search as a pdf. .. idk where to find that on the site exactly.Screenshot_20210912-155153_Drive.jpg

So your evidence is the FLCCC's own website. Again, how am I just supposed to take their own word for it.

I'd suggest you take a thorough read of this article.
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100440624

This article is dripping with Bias and should be ignored ...

When you say sheit like "you are not a horse or cow" its basically means you are a dumbass and anti-science.

Amoxicillin and prednisolone are used to treat dogs regularly by VETs.
So we stop using these meds in humans because "you are not a dog"?

OK then, if you don't trust the article, you can go to the source. Also the article isn't saying that. That's just a quote from the FDA, which exists because persons in the states were taking livestock grade Ivermectin.

U mean the us fda tweet?

Yes.

[aaron17]

Oh ok cool

[ruffneck_12]

You don't even need Ivermectin since the virus has a 97% survival rate in even an unhealthy population like trinidad.
(It's 98-99% usually.)


but hold this

[drchaos]

You don't even need Ivermectin since the virus has a 97% survival rate in even an unhealthy population like trinidad.
(It's 98-99% usually.)


but hold this

With 3% mortality rate we still need it for the people are very ill.
High dose IV vitamin C, like 12.5g to 25 grams works really well. Doesn't stop covid but can have positive effects with preventing ARDS and Cytokine storms.

Also make sure your Vit D3 levels are optimized ... its a cheap blood test ... Everyone should do this.
Serum Zinc is also great place to pay attention to even if you are vaccinated or not.

Lastly people need to stop eating sheit ... Eating sheit f#%ks up your immune system.

[ruffneck_12]

I actually got the covvies the other day.

Was literally just three days of fever, then sluggishness and brain fog for 2 weeks.


-I also suppliment with D3/zinc/mag/vit C and get LOTS of morning/evening sunlight
-I exercise regularly (cardio/heavy lifting)
-I limit processed sugars and soybean oil
-I eat red meats/eggs/ghee/olive oil/coconut oil regularly.


Literally do NOT trust the goddamn 'experts' yes

[hover11]

You see that last point you made, ppl taking the vaccine and carrying about the same lifestyles, eating sheit, kfc,pizza,Chinese etc ....not exercising yet the vaccine supposed to be the answer to all. Then we wonder why some recover and others die from this virus, our lifestyles need to change for the better.

You don't even need Ivermectin since the virus has a 97% survival rate in even an unhealthy population like trinidad.
(It's 98-99% usually.)


but hold this

With 3% mortality rate we still need it for the people are very ill.
High dose IV vitamin C, like 12.5g to 25 grams works really well. Doesn't stop covid but can have positive effects with preventing ARDS and Cytokine storms.

Also make sure your Vit D3 levels are optimized ... its a cheap blood test ... Everyone should do this.
Serum Zinc is also great place to pay attention to even if you are vaccinated or not.

Lastly people need to stop eating sheit ... Eating sheit f#%ks up your immune system.