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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby K74T » June 5th, 2024, 8:35 pm

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby alfa » June 5th, 2024, 8:39 pm

88sins wrote:
MaxPower wrote:

If you want your FUL, then you should be able to genuinely prove you are responsible
. Not a bam bam thank you maam yearly competency and then do assness in the ppl establishment.


And what would you say if I told you that there's actually quite literally thousands of applications from law-abiding citizens who've done exactly just that, and waited patiently for years, some fo decades even, regularly checking on the status of their application, and to this day they still haven't received an FUL, or even a better response other than the usual "it on the commissioner desk waiting to sign" bs?

Understand this son
This system was intentionally designed to be defective from the start, so that politicians can limit the potential ability of the population possibly taking to arms and standing up for themselves against a tyrannical government, and it's going to stay exactly the way it is until enough people apply enough legal force to it to compel change.

This is what you get when you you let lower primates with the intellectual capacity of a latrine roach and the ethics and intergity of a.sewer rat run a country, and keep them in office for multiple terms.

Many people already jamming them in court so that's probably why they want to amend the laws to now include a board to make 'binding recommendations' on the comissioner as well as sneak in more restrictive rules like gun free zones etc

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » June 5th, 2024, 8:57 pm

when rowlee made the statement about if citizens had easy access to legal guns it would mean one race getting killed by legal firearms(used by another race) you have to understand the thought process his mind went thru to come out to say that

to make a statement like that shows quite clearly who the govt supporting in the fight against criminals

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pjfred » June 5th, 2024, 9:29 pm

Need some info, how difficult it is to obtain a pellet gun licence?

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » June 6th, 2024, 5:15 am

a coc
just go to agostinis and let them send the form in for you
pjfred wrote:Need some info, how difficult it is to obtain a pellet gun licence?

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby 88sins » June 6th, 2024, 6:15 am

pugboy wrote:when rowlee made the statement about if citizens had easy access to legal guns it would mean one race getting killed by legal firearms(used by another race) you have to understand the thought process his mind went thru to come out to say that

to make a statement like that shows quite clearly who the govt supporting in the fight against criminals


That came straight out of The Politicians play-book, version 1.
When the entire population get wise to your stupidity and, start to come together,try to divide them by any and all means, including desperate and asinine statements to push racism.
Too bad for Mr. Toolum-head that the evidence based on historical statistics doesn't support his statement.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » June 6th, 2024, 7:34 am

toolum head well versed in talking to sheeps

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby zoom rader » June 6th, 2024, 7:58 am

88sins wrote:
pugboy wrote:when rowlee made the statement about if citizens had easy access to legal guns it would mean one race getting killed by legal firearms(used by another race) you have to understand the thought process his mind went thru to come out to say that

to make a statement like that shows quite clearly who the govt supporting in the fight against criminals


That came straight out of The Politicians play-book, version 1.
When the entire population get wise to your stupidity and, start to come together,try to divide them by any and all means, including desperate and asinine statements to push racism.
Too bad for Mr. Toolum-head that the evidence based on historical statistics doesn't support his statement.
Get wise to stupidity?

Bro this is trinidad a lands filled with idiots that fail to understand reasoning & logic.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby alfa » June 6th, 2024, 8:08 am

pugboy wrote:a coc
just go to agostinis and let them send the form in for you
pjfred wrote:Need some info, how difficult it is to obtain a pellet gun licence?

Could also get a coc and head to police admin building and apply there. Know someone who did it recently, not difficult at all

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » June 6th, 2024, 8:40 am

they doh give yuh the cold shoulder treatment like when dealing with ful?

alfa wrote:
pugboy wrote:a coc
just go to agostinis and let them send the form in for you
pjfred wrote:Need some info, how difficult it is to obtain a pellet gun licence?

Could also get a coc and head to police admin building and apply there. Know someone who did it recently, not difficult at all

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby alfa » June 6th, 2024, 8:59 am

pugboy wrote:they doh give yuh the cold shoulder treatment like when dealing with ful?

alfa wrote:
pugboy wrote:a coc
just go to agostinis and let them send the form in for you
pjfred wrote:Need some info, how difficult it is to obtain a pellet gun licence?

Could also get a coc and head to police admin building and apply there. Know someone who did it recently, not difficult at all

Nah nah, air rifle is straight forward thing. They not even asking you what you want it for. Just take some weeks or months to get

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby mero » June 11th, 2024, 7:24 am

Ful holder throw he money bag on the road, line up the shot, misses bandit and pick up a yute by a doubles stand..

Bandit still get the money? Who knows.

Imagine eating a doubles and realise is not the roast wa stinging yuh.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Chimera » June 11th, 2024, 8:19 am

Lol in the last 2 weeks the amount of clowns with FUL freaking up the scene eh.

Rowley and Hinds and Erla have ample reason to blank everyone and review everyone now

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby maj. tom » June 11th, 2024, 8:24 am

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/bystander-hit-by-stray/article_1fee654a-2793-11ef-a7ec-837e301703d9.html

A teenager was shot yesterday morning during an attempted robbery near a bank in Arima.

The incident took place just after 8 a.m. on the Eastern Main Road.

Police said a customer went to the First Citizens bank to deposit cash.

Before he could do so, he was confronted by an armed assailant.

The suspect, who was brandishing a firearm, attempted to grab the bag that containing the undisclosed quantity of cash.

But the customer threw the bag, and the suspect ran to pick it up off the ground.

The customer then pulled out a firearm and fired shots at the suspect.

But instead, the bullet hit a teenager standing nearby. The suspect fled the scene.

The police and paramedics were notified and the injured boy was taken to the Arima Hospital for treatment. His injury was not life-threatening.

“It all happened so fast. The gunman run up and try to rob a man, right in front of the security and everything. He didn’t care. And the man threw the bag away from him and pull out his gun. And then you hear shots.

“Before anyone could even react. And when he shot, the boy was at the doubles stand right across from the bank. And the boy got injured. We see the man fleeing the scene but at that time, all everyone was concerned about was making sure that boy reached the hospital and was okay.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby maj. tom » June 11th, 2024, 8:26 am

Chimera wrote:Lol in the last 2 weeks the amount of clowns with FUL freaking up the scene eh.

Rowley and Hinds and Erla have ample reason to blank everyone and review everyone now


You can see that all these incidents the most training these irresponsible dumbasses ever take was by watching a Rambo movie followed by the TV series "24." Giving a bad name to the responsible holders and users who you will never hear about because they are trained and responsible and understand consequences.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » June 11th, 2024, 8:28 am

he prob got a crash course from the institute

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby mero » June 11th, 2024, 8:48 am

Probably was waiting for that day for a man to "play mad and come round me"

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » June 11th, 2024, 9:45 am

the footage would be good to see

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby MaxPower » June 11th, 2024, 10:33 am

Chimera wrote:Lol in the last 2 weeks the amount of clowns with FUL freaking up the scene eh.

Rowley and Hinds and Erla have ample reason to blank everyone and review everyone now


Yep X3000, always have the jackox that making it bad for everyone else.

Imagine 50,000 Trinis with FULs.

Hear na

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Chimera » June 11th, 2024, 10:53 am

49,000 bandits done have Firearms so level the playing field and make it like a western movie.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby mero » June 11th, 2024, 10:54 am

But powers, d future prime minister KPB telling dem empty the clip and knock it on dem eh.

Imagine clip emptying and knocking taking place but is only self inflicted gunshots, accidental discharges, friendly fire, bird and man window picking up corn.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby mero » June 11th, 2024, 11:04 am

Chimera wrote:49,000 bandits done have Firearms so level the playing field and make it like a western movie.
Free gun in Caura after 6 just hanging on tree

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby redmanjp » June 11th, 2024, 11:10 am

maj. tom wrote:
Chimera wrote:Lol in the last 2 weeks the amount of clowns with FUL freaking up the scene eh.

Rowley and Hinds and Erla have ample reason to blank everyone and review everyone now


You can see that all these incidents the most training these irresponsible dumbasses ever take was by watching a Rambo movie followed by the TV series "24." Giving a bad name to the responsible holders and users who you will never hear about because they are trained and responsible and understand consequences.


all they need to do is make intensive initial training mandatory with some annual practice sessions as well - instead of govt looking for every excuse to stop responsible ppl from having legal firearms.

no amt of gun control stopping the bandits from having access to thousands of illegal firearms.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby alfa » June 11th, 2024, 11:21 am

redmanjp wrote:
maj. tom wrote:
Chimera wrote:Lol in the last 2 weeks the amount of clowns with FUL freaking up the scene eh.

Rowley and Hinds and Erla have ample reason to blank everyone and review everyone now


You can see that all these incidents the most training these irresponsible dumbasses ever take was by watching a Rambo movie followed by the TV series "24." Giving a bad name to the responsible holders and users who you will never hear about because they are trained and responsible and understand consequences.


all they need to do is make intensive initial training mandatory with some annual practice sessions as well - instead of govt looking for every excuse to stop responsible ppl from having legal firearms.

no amt of gun control stopping the bandits from having access to thousands of illegal firearms.

Although there is initial training following which a certificate of competence is to be issued by an authorized trainer the problem is that there is no standard curriculum involved.
I know some trainers who do put you through proper training and some again who just do a 'run though' making sure you could load unload etc. Even after that proper concealed carry training should be taken and very few actually do
Controversial point here as well but over the years some of the worst shooters I've seen were police and security. Before the Gary era the best shooters were ironically the folks who didn't own guns but used the ranges' equipment

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby MaxPower » June 11th, 2024, 12:23 pm

Basically the FUL competency is not a pass or fail.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » June 11th, 2024, 12:46 pm

shooting is a skill which few are born with

two persons could use the same gun and try to hit a target at same distance and have totally diff scores no matter how hard they try and practice
combine that with the situational circumstances and anything could play out

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby redmanjp » June 11th, 2024, 2:13 pm

so accuracy is not part of the criteria for getting a FUL?

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby MaxPower » June 11th, 2024, 2:20 pm

pugboy wrote:shooting is a skill which few are born with

two persons could use the same gun and try to hit a target at same distance and have totally diff scores no matter how hard they try and practice
combine that with the situational circumstances and anything could play out


Pug,

I agree, shooting is a skill but you don’t have to be on a competitive level to know what is beyond your target rather than shooting wildly and emptying the clip as the opposition leader promotes.

Lack of basic firearm etiquette and safety measures in T&T appears to be a growing problem.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby redmanjp » June 11th, 2024, 2:26 pm

^right so fix that instead of withholding FULs from responsible citizens.

ah mean- do we ban cars just because we have a few ppl that drive recklessly?
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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby alfa » June 11th, 2024, 2:43 pm

redmanjp wrote:so accuracy is not part of the criteria for getting a FUL?

Nope

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