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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » November 26th, 2023, 3:32 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:It's funny till it's no longer funny how you are guranteed to be wrong on every post you do.

Dumb as mud!!!!
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:What happened between 1811 to 1830?
The freedom of my African brothers and sisters in Venezuela.


Jah bless them vene leaders for doing the right thing and freedom on slavery.
Screenshot_20231126-102719.jpg
Really?


"Abolition of slavery in Venezuela

Afro-Venezuelans played a crucial role in the struggle for independence. Originally, slaves fought for the Crown, believing that the landowning creole Republicans were their enemies. In particular, the notorious royalist battalion of General José Tomás Boves attracted many slave soldiers. Bolívar, realizing the strategic importance of Black soldiers in the fight for independence, declared the abolition of slavery in 1812 and again in 1816, after promising Haitian president Alexandre Pétion that he would secure freedom for slaves in return for Haitian military aid. A major landowner himself, Bolívar freed 1,000 of his own slaves, and in 1819 recruited 5,000 slaves into his army. Many members of cumbes fought on the side of the rebels, and abandoned their villages.[8]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Venezuelans



Try harder moron


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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby maj. tom » November 26th, 2023, 4:13 pm

I think an F-16 >>>> flagpole though.
FAV has about 20. Made in USA.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » November 26th, 2023, 4:15 pm

maj. tom wrote:I think an F-16 >>>> flagpole though.
FAV has about 20. Made in USA.
Planes need spares and often. They have been sanctioned long enough the air worthiness of those F16s should be questionable.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » November 26th, 2023, 4:18 pm

You haven't actually disputed my point. Not that you would have realized given that you are retarded
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:It's funny till it's no longer funny how you are guranteed to be wrong on every post you do.

Dumb as mud!!!!
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:What happened between 1811 to 1830?
The freedom of my African brothers and sisters in Venezuela.


Jah bless them vene leaders for doing the right thing and freedom on slavery.
Screenshot_20231126-102719.jpg
Really?


"Abolition of slavery in Venezuela

Afro-Venezuelans played a crucial role in the struggle for independence. Originally, slaves fought for the Crown, believing that the landowning creole Republicans were their enemies. In particular, the notorious royalist battalion of General José Tomás Boves attracted many slave soldiers. Bolívar, realizing the strategic importance of Black soldiers in the fight for independence, declared the abolition of slavery in 1812 and again in 1816, after promising Haitian president Alexandre Pétion that he would secure freedom for slaves in return for Haitian military aid. A major landowner himself, Bolívar freed 1,000 of his own slaves, and in 1819 recruited 5,000 slaves into his army. Many members of cumbes fought on the side of the rebels, and abandoned their villages.[8]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Venezuelans



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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby VII » November 26th, 2023, 4:53 pm

They have SU 30 MK2s also..

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Dizzy28 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:I think an F-16 >>>> flagpole though.
FAV has about 20. Made in USA.
Planes need spares and often. They have been sanctioned long enough the air worthiness of those F16s should be questionable.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » November 27th, 2023, 7:33 am

Dizzy28 wrote:You haven't actually disputed my point. Not that you would have realized given that you are retarded
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:It's funny till it's no longer funny how you are guranteed to be wrong on every post you do.

Dumb as mud!!!!
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:What happened between 1811 to 1830?
The freedom of my African brothers and sisters in Venezuela.


Jah bless them vene leaders for doing the right thing and freedom on slavery.
Screenshot_20231126-102719.jpg
Really?


"Abolition of slavery in Venezuela

Afro-Venezuelans played a crucial role in the struggle for independence. Originally, slaves fought for the Crown, believing that the landowning creole Republicans were their enemies. In particular, the notorious royalist battalion of General José Tomás Boves attracted many slave soldiers. Bolívar, realizing the strategic importance of Black soldiers in the fight for independence, declared the abolition of slavery in 1812 and again in 1816, after promising Haitian president Alexandre Pétion that he would secure freedom for slaves in return for Haitian military aid. A major landowner himself, Bolívar freed 1,000 of his own slaves, and in 1819 recruited 5,000 slaves into his army. Many members of cumbes fought on the side of the rebels, and abandoned their villages.[8]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Venezuelans



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U have no point as Slaves was freed in the early 1800s by Bolívar.

U ask what happened in 1811and I posted to learn to read and understand Cont

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2023, 9:21 am

zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:You haven't actually disputed my point. Not that you would have realized given that you are retarded
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:It's funny till it's no longer funny how you are guranteed to be wrong on every post you do.

Dumb as mud!!!!
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:What happened between 1811 to 1830?
The freedom of my African brothers and sisters in Venezuela.


Jah bless them vene leaders for doing the right thing and freedom on slavery.
Screenshot_20231126-102719.jpg
Really?


"Abolition of slavery in Venezuela

Afro-Venezuelans played a crucial role in the struggle for independence. Originally, slaves fought for the Crown, believing that the landowning creole Republicans were their enemies. In particular, the notorious royalist battalion of General José Tomás Boves attracted many slave soldiers. Bolívar, realizing the strategic importance of Black soldiers in the fight for independence, declared the abolition of slavery in 1812 and again in 1816, after promising Haitian president Alexandre Pétion that he would secure freedom for slaves in return for Haitian military aid. A major landowner himself, Bolívar freed 1,000 of his own slaves, and in 1819 recruited 5,000 slaves into his army. Many members of cumbes fought on the side of the rebels, and abandoned their villages.[8]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Venezuelans



Try harder moron
Jack arse

U have no point as Slaves was freed in the early 1800s by Bolívar.

U ask what happened in 1811and I posted to learn to read and understand Cont


Even my 7 Year old son has a better understanding of comprehension than you

Bolivar freeing his slaves is not = to "Freedom from Slavery"

Until the Law of Abolition of Slavery in 1854 Venezuela would have still been a slave owning country

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Ben_spanna » November 27th, 2023, 12:53 pm

VII wrote:They have SU 30 MK2s also..

Image



Dizzy28 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:I think an F-16 >>>> flagpole though.
FAV has about 20. Made in USA.
Planes need spares and often. They have been sanctioned long enough the air worthiness of those F16s should be questionable.

BLEH

We could send in a squadron of our beetham Corbeaux tuh deal with them, let them fly through the engine and take them down.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby 88sins » November 28th, 2023, 12:30 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:You haven't actually disputed my point. Not that you would have realized given that you are retarded
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:It's funny till it's no longer funny how you are guranteed to be wrong on every post you do.

Dumb as mud!!!!
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:What happened between 1811 to 1830?
The freedom of my African brothers and sisters in Venezuela.


Jah bless them vene leaders for doing the right thing and freedom on slavery.
Screenshot_20231126-102719.jpg
Really?


"Abolition of slavery in Venezuela

Afro-Venezuelans played a crucial role in the struggle for independence. Originally, slaves fought for the Crown, believing that the landowning creole Republicans were their enemies. In particular, the notorious royalist battalion of General José Tomás Boves attracted many slave soldiers. Bolívar, realizing the strategic importance of Black soldiers in the fight for independence, declared the abolition of slavery in 1812 and again in 1816, after promising Haitian president Alexandre Pétion that he would secure freedom for slaves in return for Haitian military aid. A major landowner himself, Bolívar freed 1,000 of his own slaves, and in 1819 recruited 5,000 slaves into his army. Many members of cumbes fought on the side of the rebels, and abandoned their villages.[8]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Venezuelans



Try harder moron
Jack arse

U have no point as Slaves was freed in the early 1800s by Bolívar.

U ask what happened in 1811and I posted to learn to read and understand Cont


Even my 7 Year old son has a better understanding of comprehension than you

Bolivar freeing his slaves is not = to "Freedom from Slavery"

Until the Law of Abolition of Slavery in 1854 Venezuela would have still been a slave owning country

Fun project for you, or anyone that's interested actually.
Go observe how afro-oriented-venez are treated and thought of by their not-so-afro fellow payols.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby teems1 » November 28th, 2023, 3:24 pm

88sins wrote:Fun project for you, or anyone that's interested actually.
Go observe how afro-oriented-venez are treated and thought of by their not-so-afro fellow payols.


Your head is going to explode when you realize how afro-trinis are treated and thought of by their not-so-afro fellow trinis.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby triniterribletim » November 28th, 2023, 6:00 pm

I thought Lula would have taken a hands off approach, but he sent a multi-state squadron down to the Brazil-Venezuela border, becuause apparently the only viable crossing for a ground invasion passes through Brazil and the government says no foreign troops are gonna be allowed to pass through Brazil. Looks like even leftists aren't gonna ignore Maduro doing any sort of incursion.

From Tupi Report
Venezuela vs. Guyana Conflict: The Brazilian Army has been put on alert after receiving intelligence information regarding a potential invasion by Venezuela into Guyana, which would require the passage of troops through Brazilian territory. As a precaution, the High Command has initiated an emergency mobilization of troops to the border.

Around 16 multitasking armored vehicles (VBMT) from the 5th army division are on high alert to be relocated to Boa Vista, the state capital, on the early morning of last Saturday. In addition to the multitasking armored vehicles and infantry troops, the Army has also set tanks Leopard in motion.

According to a military source stationed in the brigade in Roraima who requested not to be identified, the High Command has been forming dozens of task forces with personnel from various Army units in various regions of the country to plan the operation on the border.

"In 20 years in the barracks, I had never seen this," he said. "They are taking a piece from each operational battalion from every part of Brazil. For example, the light infantry battalions from São Paulo are sending personnel. This information will spread quickly due to the formed groups," the source stated.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » November 28th, 2023, 6:25 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:You haven't actually disputed my point. Not that you would have realized given that you are retarded
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:It's funny till it's no longer funny how you are guranteed to be wrong on every post you do.

Dumb as mud!!!!
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:What happened between 1811 to 1830?
The freedom of my African brothers and sisters in Venezuela.


Jah bless them vene leaders for doing the right thing and freedom on slavery.
Screenshot_20231126-102719.jpg
Really?


"Abolition of slavery in Venezuela

Afro-Venezuelans played a crucial role in the struggle for independence. Originally, slaves fought for the Crown, believing that the landowning creole Republicans were their enemies. In particular, the notorious royalist battalion of General José Tomás Boves attracted many slave soldiers. Bolívar, realizing the strategic importance of Black soldiers in the fight for independence, declared the abolition of slavery in 1812 and again in 1816, after promising Haitian president Alexandre Pétion that he would secure freedom for slaves in return for Haitian military aid. A major landowner himself, Bolívar freed 1,000 of his own slaves, and in 1819 recruited 5,000 slaves into his army. Many members of cumbes fought on the side of the rebels, and abandoned their villages.[8]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Venezuelans



Try harder moron
Jack arse

U have no point as Slaves was freed in the early 1800s by Bolívar.

U ask what happened in 1811and I posted to learn to read and understand Cont


Even my 7 Year old son has a better understanding of comprehension than you

Bolivar freeing his slaves is not = to "Freedom from Slavery"

Until the Law of Abolition of Slavery in 1854 Venezuela would have still been a slave owning country
Learn to read my boy, it all started with Simon freeing his slaves and those in the army. That's what happened from 1811 to 1830.

Try harder

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby The_Honourable » November 29th, 2023, 8:42 pm

U.S. army officials arrive in Guyana as Venezuela prepares for December 3 referendum

Kaieteur News – Defense officials of the United States (U.S.) army are in Guyana and have been engaging the top brass of the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) over the last two days. Their engagement with GDF comes as neighbouring Venezuela prepares to move ahead with its planned referendum on December 3 to falsely claim Guyana’s Essequibo.

The U.S. Embassy in Georgetown noted in a press release on Tuesday, “The leadership from the United States Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) and the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) met November 27-28 as part of the United States and Guyana’s strong military to military partnership”.

Discussions, according to the embassy, were centered on “upcoming engagements to include strategic planning sessions and processes to enhance both countries’ military readiness and capabilities to respond to security threats.”

The SFAB Advisors said, “We are thankful for the opportunity to train with the Guyana Defence Force as our partners and friends. We look forward to deepening the partnership in the weeks and months to come.”

In response to the visit, GDF’s Staff Officer One, General Three – Operations and Training – Lieutenant Colonel, Andy Pompey said that Guyana has benefitted tremendously from a previous iteration of U.S. military training here.

“The transfer of knowledge and expertise from our U.S. counterparts under the auspices of the SFAB has equipped our members with invaluable skills that are directly applicable to the dynamic nature of our modern security environment,” Pompey said.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Embassy noted that the U.S. and Guyana enjoy a longstanding security partnership marked by strong collaboration between SOUTHCOM and the GDF.

That partnership, according to the embassy, is focused on disaster preparedness, humanitarian assistance, maritime security, human rights, professional development, defense and public-security missions, and countering transnational crime.

The arrival of the U.S. Defense officials comes days after President Mohamed Irfaan Ali, told residents in the border community of Mabaruma, Region One that two teams from the U.S. Department of Defense would be paying two visits to Guyana.

President Ali’s recent visit to Mabaruma and other border communities was aimed at sensitizing citizens about the border controversy between Guyana and Venezuela and to quell fears among the residents about aggression from the neighbouring country on its claims of the county of Essequibo.

Last week at his weekly press engagement, Vice-President Bharrat Jagdeo also spoke of the U.S. Defense teams visit to Guyana while responding to questions from a reporter on the ongoing tensions between the two countries.

While affirming to the country’s commitment to peace, Jagdeo said that in preparation for potential scenarios, Guyana is exploring various options and actively engaging with allies.

He said in addition to the two teams from the United States Department of Defense, several other visits have been planned in the month of December.

Emphasizing Guyana’s steadfast pursuit of peace, particularly at its borders, Jagdeo reiterated the government’s dedication to exploring all available measures for national defence. Addressing concerns about potential aggression, VP Jagdeo emphasised, “We are not going to succumb to Venezuela’s bullyism,” clarifying that Guyana is focused on protecting its sovereignty through diplomatic means. He stressed that the ongoing border controversy with Venezuela should be resolved peacefully in the International Court of Justice (ICJ).

Asserting global support, Jagdeo reminded of the backing from organizations like CARICOM, the Commonwealth, and the Organisation of the American States (OAS), along with major nations such as the United Kingdom (UK).

Moreover, Guyana is currently awaiting the ruling of the ICJ on its request for provisional measures that would block questions relating to the annexation of the Essequibo territory in the upcoming December 3 referendum by the Venezuelan government.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2023 ... eferendum/

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby redmanjp » November 29th, 2023, 8:44 pm

hmm. should we stock up from now? in case tings get bad.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » November 29th, 2023, 9:42 pm

The_Honourable wrote:U.S. army officials arrive in Guyana as Venezuela prepares for December 3 referendum

Kaieteur News – Defense officials of the United States (U.S.) army are in Guyana and have been engaging the top brass of the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) over the last two days. Their engagement with GDF comes as neighbouring Venezuela prepares to move ahead with its planned referendum on December 3 to falsely claim Guyana’s Essequibo.

The U.S. Embassy in Georgetown noted in a press release on Tuesday, “The leadership from the United States Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) and the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) met November 27-28 as part of the United States and Guyana’s strong military to military partnership”.

Discussions, according to the embassy, were centered on “upcoming engagements to include strategic planning sessions and processes to enhance both countries’ military readiness and capabilities to respond to security threats.”

The SFAB Advisors said, “We are thankful for the opportunity to train with the Guyana Defence Force as our partners and friends. We look forward to deepening the partnership in the weeks and months to come.”

In response to the visit, GDF’s Staff Officer One, General Three – Operations and Training – Lieutenant Colonel, Andy Pompey said that Guyana has benefitted tremendously from a previous iteration of U.S. military training here.

“The transfer of knowledge and expertise from our U.S. counterparts under the auspices of the SFAB has equipped our members with invaluable skills that are directly applicable to the dynamic nature of our modern security environment,” Pompey said.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Embassy noted that the U.S. and Guyana enjoy a longstanding security partnership marked by strong collaboration between SOUTHCOM and the GDF.

That partnership, according to the embassy, is focused on disaster preparedness, humanitarian assistance, maritime security, human rights, professional development, defense and public-security missions, and countering transnational crime.

The arrival of the U.S. Defense officials comes days after President Mohamed Irfaan Ali, told residents in the border community of Mabaruma, Region One that two teams from the U.S. Department of Defense would be paying two visits to Guyana.

President Ali’s recent visit to Mabaruma and other border communities was aimed at sensitizing citizens about the border controversy between Guyana and Venezuela and to quell fears among the residents about aggression from the neighbouring country on its claims of the county of Essequibo.

Last week at his weekly press engagement, Vice-President Bharrat Jagdeo also spoke of the U.S. Defense teams visit to Guyana while responding to questions from a reporter on the ongoing tensions between the two countries.

While affirming to the country’s commitment to peace, Jagdeo said that in preparation for potential scenarios, Guyana is exploring various options and actively engaging with allies.

He said in addition to the two teams from the United States Department of Defense, several other visits have been planned in the month of December.

Emphasizing Guyana’s steadfast pursuit of peace, particularly at its borders, Jagdeo reiterated the government’s dedication to exploring all available measures for national defence. Addressing concerns about potential aggression, VP Jagdeo emphasised, “We are not going to succumb to Venezuela’s bullyism,” clarifying that Guyana is focused on protecting its sovereignty through diplomatic means. He stressed that the ongoing border controversy with Venezuela should be resolved peacefully in the International Court of Justice (ICJ).

Asserting global support, Jagdeo reminded of the backing from organizations like CARICOM, the Commonwealth, and the Organisation of the American States (OAS), along with major nations such as the United Kingdom (UK).

Moreover, Guyana is currently awaiting the ruling of the ICJ on its request for provisional measures that would block questions relating to the annexation of the Essequibo territory in the upcoming December 3 referendum by the Venezuelan government.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2023 ... eferendum/
If Guyana had no oil , u think the US gives a fvck.

US only protecting ExxonMobil

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » November 30th, 2023, 12:55 pm

Brazil increases northern border military presence amid Venezuela-Guyana spat

BRASILIA, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Brazil "has intensified defensive actions" along its northern border as it monitors a territorial dispute between its neighbors, Guyana and Venezuela, the country's defense ministry said on Wednesday.

"The Ministry of Defense has been monitoring the situation. Defensive actions have been intensified in the northern border region of the country, promoting a greater military presence," it said in a statement.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 023-11-29/

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » November 30th, 2023, 1:40 pm

Vene will be forced to back down by the bully US.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby triniterribletim » November 30th, 2023, 4:59 pm

zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:U.S. army officials arrive in Guyana as Venezuela prepares for December 3 referendum

Kaieteur News – Defense officials of the United States (U.S.) army are in Guyana and have been engaging the top brass of the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) over the last two days. Their engagement with GDF comes as neighbouring Venezuela prepares to move ahead with its planned referendum on December 3 to falsely claim Guyana’s Essequibo.

The U.S. Embassy in Georgetown noted in a press release on Tuesday, “The leadership from the United States Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) and the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) met November 27-28 as part of the United States and Guyana’s strong military to military partnership”.

Discussions, according to the embassy, were centered on “upcoming engagements to include strategic planning sessions and processes to enhance both countries’ military readiness and capabilities to respond to security threats.”

The SFAB Advisors said, “We are thankful for the opportunity to train with the Guyana Defence Force as our partners and friends. We look forward to deepening the partnership in the weeks and months to come.”

In response to the visit, GDF’s Staff Officer One, General Three – Operations and Training – Lieutenant Colonel, Andy Pompey said that Guyana has benefitted tremendously from a previous iteration of U.S. military training here.

“The transfer of knowledge and expertise from our U.S. counterparts under the auspices of the SFAB has equipped our members with invaluable skills that are directly applicable to the dynamic nature of our modern security environment,” Pompey said.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Embassy noted that the U.S. and Guyana enjoy a longstanding security partnership marked by strong collaboration between SOUTHCOM and the GDF.

That partnership, according to the embassy, is focused on disaster preparedness, humanitarian assistance, maritime security, human rights, professional development, defense and public-security missions, and countering transnational crime.

The arrival of the U.S. Defense officials comes days after President Mohamed Irfaan Ali, told residents in the border community of Mabaruma, Region One that two teams from the U.S. Department of Defense would be paying two visits to Guyana.

President Ali’s recent visit to Mabaruma and other border communities was aimed at sensitizing citizens about the border controversy between Guyana and Venezuela and to quell fears among the residents about aggression from the neighbouring country on its claims of the county of Essequibo.

Last week at his weekly press engagement, Vice-President Bharrat Jagdeo also spoke of the U.S. Defense teams visit to Guyana while responding to questions from a reporter on the ongoing tensions between the two countries.

While affirming to the country’s commitment to peace, Jagdeo said that in preparation for potential scenarios, Guyana is exploring various options and actively engaging with allies.

He said in addition to the two teams from the United States Department of Defense, several other visits have been planned in the month of December.

Emphasizing Guyana’s steadfast pursuit of peace, particularly at its borders, Jagdeo reiterated the government’s dedication to exploring all available measures for national defence. Addressing concerns about potential aggression, VP Jagdeo emphasised, “We are not going to succumb to Venezuela’s bullyism,” clarifying that Guyana is focused on protecting its sovereignty through diplomatic means. He stressed that the ongoing border controversy with Venezuela should be resolved peacefully in the International Court of Justice (ICJ).

Asserting global support, Jagdeo reminded of the backing from organizations like CARICOM, the Commonwealth, and the Organisation of the American States (OAS), along with major nations such as the United Kingdom (UK).

Moreover, Guyana is currently awaiting the ruling of the ICJ on its request for provisional measures that would block questions relating to the annexation of the Essequibo territory in the upcoming December 3 referendum by the Venezuelan government.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2023 ... eferendum/
If Guyana had no oil , u think the US gives a fvck.

US only protecting ExxonMobil


The Venes should be happy that it will be the US Army they're facing. The last time Exxon hired the Indonesian mercenaries they were hit with human rights violations for all the kidnapping, torture, rape and killings that those mercenaries did. Exxon knows how to go scorched earth when they want to protect their interests.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » November 30th, 2023, 5:36 pm

triniterribletim wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:U.S. army officials arrive in Guyana as Venezuela prepares for December 3 referendum

Kaieteur News – Defense officials of the United States (U.S.) army are in Guyana and have been engaging the top brass of the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) over the last two days. Their engagement with GDF comes as neighbouring Venezuela prepares to move ahead with its planned referendum on December 3 to falsely claim Guyana’s Essequibo.

The U.S. Embassy in Georgetown noted in a press release on Tuesday, “The leadership from the United States Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) and the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) met November 27-28 as part of the United States and Guyana’s strong military to military partnership”.

Discussions, according to the embassy, were centered on “upcoming engagements to include strategic planning sessions and processes to enhance both countries’ military readiness and capabilities to respond to security threats.”

The SFAB Advisors said, “We are thankful for the opportunity to train with the Guyana Defence Force as our partners and friends. We look forward to deepening the partnership in the weeks and months to come.”

In response to the visit, GDF’s Staff Officer One, General Three – Operations and Training – Lieutenant Colonel, Andy Pompey said that Guyana has benefitted tremendously from a previous iteration of U.S. military training here.

“The transfer of knowledge and expertise from our U.S. counterparts under the auspices of the SFAB has equipped our members with invaluable skills that are directly applicable to the dynamic nature of our modern security environment,” Pompey said.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Embassy noted that the U.S. and Guyana enjoy a longstanding security partnership marked by strong collaboration between SOUTHCOM and the GDF.

That partnership, according to the embassy, is focused on disaster preparedness, humanitarian assistance, maritime security, human rights, professional development, defense and public-security missions, and countering transnational crime.

The arrival of the U.S. Defense officials comes days after President Mohamed Irfaan Ali, told residents in the border community of Mabaruma, Region One that two teams from the U.S. Department of Defense would be paying two visits to Guyana.

President Ali’s recent visit to Mabaruma and other border communities was aimed at sensitizing citizens about the border controversy between Guyana and Venezuela and to quell fears among the residents about aggression from the neighbouring country on its claims of the county of Essequibo.

Last week at his weekly press engagement, Vice-President Bharrat Jagdeo also spoke of the U.S. Defense teams visit to Guyana while responding to questions from a reporter on the ongoing tensions between the two countries.

While affirming to the country’s commitment to peace, Jagdeo said that in preparation for potential scenarios, Guyana is exploring various options and actively engaging with allies.

He said in addition to the two teams from the United States Department of Defense, several other visits have been planned in the month of December.

Emphasizing Guyana’s steadfast pursuit of peace, particularly at its borders, Jagdeo reiterated the government’s dedication to exploring all available measures for national defence. Addressing concerns about potential aggression, VP Jagdeo emphasised, “We are not going to succumb to Venezuela’s bullyism,” clarifying that Guyana is focused on protecting its sovereignty through diplomatic means. He stressed that the ongoing border controversy with Venezuela should be resolved peacefully in the International Court of Justice (ICJ).

Asserting global support, Jagdeo reminded of the backing from organizations like CARICOM, the Commonwealth, and the Organisation of the American States (OAS), along with major nations such as the United Kingdom (UK).

Moreover, Guyana is currently awaiting the ruling of the ICJ on its request for provisional measures that would block questions relating to the annexation of the Essequibo territory in the upcoming December 3 referendum by the Venezuelan government.

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If Guyana had no oil , u think the US gives a fvck.

US only protecting ExxonMobil


The Venes should be happy that it will be the US Army they're facing. The last time Exxon hired the Indonesian mercenaries they were hit with human rights violations for all the kidnapping, torture, rape and killings that those mercenaries did. Exxon knows how to go scorched earth when they want to protect their interests.
Yup ExxonMobil turned Guyana in to one of African states to rape.

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Postby The_Honourable » December 1st, 2023, 9:55 am

World Court rules on border dispute today

The International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, will today deliver its “Order on the Request” for provisional measures submitted by Guyana aimed at preventing Venezuela from holding a referendum over the ownership of the oil-rich Essequibo region.

On Sunday, Venezuelans will vote in a referendum on “the rights” to the Essequibo.

The ICJ, also known as the World Court, will rule on the request by Guyana that the referendum be called off during a public sitting which will take place at 3 p.m. at the Peace

Palace in The Hague, the Court said in a statement.

Judge Joan E Donoghue, president of the Court, will read the Court’s Order, the ICJ said earlier this week.

Venezuela’s President Nicolás Maduro has thrown the full weight of his government into the effort, using patriotic rhetoric to try to summon voters to the polls to answer five questions over the territory, including whether current and future area residents should be granted Venezuelan citizenship.

Guyana sees the referendum as a case of annexation.

Even if the Court rules against Venezuela, Maduro’s government has said it intends to hold the election on Sunday.

The 61,600-square-mile area accounts for two-thirds of Guyana but Venezuela has always considered Essequibo as its own because the region was within its boundaries during the Spanish colonial period, and it has long disputed the border decided by international arbitrators in 1899, when Guyana was still a British colony.

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Postby Dizzy28 » December 1st, 2023, 10:17 am

Colonizers gonna colonize!!

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Postby teems1 » December 1st, 2023, 10:40 am

The British and questionable border lines.

Name a better duo.

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Postby Dizzy28 » December 1st, 2023, 11:30 am

Capture.GIF


Not that Maduro cared whatever the result of today was

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Postby xtech » December 1st, 2023, 2:02 pm

Maduro will not risk facing the combined might of the Caribbean islands defense forces

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Postby maj. tom » December 1st, 2023, 2:09 pm

So many violent political events going on in the world right now, while the traditionally stable democratic countries are fighting growing fascism and stupidity from within the government and the electorate itself.

Feels like that quote in LOTR “The board is set, the pieces are moving" as the world powers realigning itself again for a global conflict. Is like peace since WW2 lasting too long for the human evolution monkey tribe genes and getting restless for mass blood again. It's human nature after all. So what will eventually be the nuclear spark? And it definitely wouldn't be as clear cut as Axis and Allies in WW2. More like the factions of the fictional 2026-2053 wars in Star Trek.

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Postby Dohplaydat » December 3rd, 2023, 4:20 pm

xtech wrote:Maduro will not risk facing the combined might of the Caribbean islands defense forces


LOL.

Maduro should not want to risk more sanctions, though honestly I kinda see Venezuela's historic claim to that land, and if Russia and China backing this (which you can bet your ass they 100% are backing this) then I could see Caracas ordering the annexation.

Really interesting times this......who would have thought we'd see a potential war breakout in our backyard.

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Postby DMan7 » December 3rd, 2023, 4:22 pm

So which war to breakout next after this Vene vs Guyana one? China / Taiwan?

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Postby Cantmis » December 3rd, 2023, 4:25 pm

Who side we on ?

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Postby Dohplaydat » December 3rd, 2023, 4:31 pm

maj. tom wrote:So many violent political events going on in the world right now, while the traditionally stable democratic countries are fighting growing fascism and stupidity from within the government and the electorate itself.

Feels like that quote in LOTR “The board is set, the pieces are moving" as the world powers realigning itself again for a global conflict. Is like peace since WW2 lasting too long for the human evolution monkey tribe genes and getting restless for mass blood again. It's human nature after all. So what will eventually be the nuclear spark? And it definitely wouldn't be as clear cut as Axis and Allies in WW2. More like the factions of the fictional 2026-2053 wars in Star Trek.


You want my opinion which is not backed up by anything other than watching countless youtube videos and going to a few war talks of recent.

Both Russia and China are engaging in a huge propaganda war and supporting these proxy wars. They have numerous politicians bought out including those on the left and right in the US. All over the world.

The cards are being set up strategically and the west, due to democracy is at a huge disadvantage in winning this because war costs money. Supporting Ukraine who seems to be losing right now, has driven up inflation sky high and left wing policies of high taxes are already making this a huge burden.

Slowly, US aligned governments across Europe are losing elections.

What happens next? Who knows, but I can see Russia and China building up military strength that is on parity with the NAOT within 2-3 years time.

That gives them a perfect platform to launch invasions of Ukraine (and possibly the Baltics and Poland, but stopping at Germany) and China taking Taiwan and possibly even going for the Philippines, Thailand and Indonesia.

If the west wants to fight that war, they will probably lose.....you can't fight two massive wars like that on two fronts. Europe might be able to fend off Russia who is weak right now.

But Russia's war economy is ramping up, they have not had a draft, and they're supplying lots of weapons from Iran and N. Korea who are happy to do this.

Pushing proxy wars right now, raises oil prices which helps Russia pay for this, and f#%ks over economies of the west badly. OPEC will happily side with Russia on this.

The west is not unified enough to deal with this, Europe alone is sheit show of politicians bought out by Russia, with so much freaking Russian money in Germany, England and Switzerland.....look for those countries, even possibly France to want to pacify Russia.

The liberal west (mostly in the US) has done a really good job of making people think Russia is not a threat, or just a gas station with nukes. Russia can firetruck with supply chains so badly if they really wanted to. (they don't because of money, but they can).

Anyway, the point is Russia and China want to expand without opposition and unless some miracle happens I see the west will simply sit back and spin stories on why China taking Taiwan is a good thing.

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