The official CEPEP thread

[pugboy]

i am sure close to half of those numbers are ghost or slacker employees who should be employed elsewhere
and at least half of the figures are pumped up contractor bobol eat ah food kickback scenes

[hover11]

From day one, CEPEP was a political thing. That’s just how it’s always been.When government changes, so does the list of contractors. The workers mostly just move over to the new contractors. It’s not right, but it’s the reality of how the system was set up. This isn’t new and NOT only the present government does change the Contractors when they win. I don't understand why mero frothing up like if he actually cares how many lost their jobs

[hover11]

Imagine ppl genuinely think all who lost their jobs are going to be magically rehired by new UNC selected contractors. Men smoking ball in here yes

Imagine thinking the UNC's mission is to "revamp" CEPEP, stamp out corruption and eliminate ghost gangs. Like allyuh born in 2015 yes.

Imagine ppl really celebrating this and treating those affected less than humans.

Imagine buying into everybody wins, vote UNC then you get send home.

Allyuh big and have sense. Fool allyuh self, doh try to fool me tnx

It would be nice for our universities do a full economic study showing the link between our decline in non energy sectors and the growth and consolidation of dewd urp cepep etc. make work programmes have altered the economy so significantly but it has been hidden by oil wealth.

Any party that could change that deserves kudos. I don't think unc will change ot. Pretending cepep is anything more than it is not helpful.

Also Trinidad has a declining labour force size and low unemployment. Where else would new cepep workers come from but the old cepep pool?

Why do we have so many entities doing the same thing or having the same purpose:CEPEP , URP , CORPORATION, WORKS...wtf where all this money actually coming from to sustain these initiatives?

[mero]

Imagine ppl genuinely think all who lost their jobs are going to be magically rehired by new UNC selected contractors. Men smoking ball in here yes

Imagine thinking the UNC's mission is to "revamp" CEPEP, stamp out corruption and eliminate ghost gangs. Like allyuh born in 2015 yes.

Imagine ppl really celebrating this and treating those affected less than humans.

Imagine buying into everybody wins, vote UNC then you get send home.

Allyuh big and have sense. Fool allyuh self, doh try to fool me tnx

It would be nice for our universities do a full economic study showing the link between our decline in non energy sectors and the growth and consolidation of dewd urp cepep etc. make work programmes have altered the economy so significantly but it has been hidden by oil wealth.

Any party that could change that deserves kudos. I don't think unc will change ot. Pretending cepep is anything more than it is not helpful.

Also Trinidad has a declining labour force size and low unemployment. Where else would new cepep workers come from but the old cepep pool?

Universities gonna do a study ,then what bai? The next party in power scrap it and do a next study, mouths hadda feed, voted hadda earn, this aint limited to third world countries.

Also doubt that gonna happen in our life time too unless there's a world war or IMF is brought in to take over with a iron fist. Then the poor black CEPEP PNM ppl would be the least of our job loss problems. Make everything efficient. Might cost us a few hundred thousand jobs but if we wanna be first world and hate the handouts, may the strong and skilled survive.

Privatize/sell all 50+ State enterprises. Who vex lorse.

[one eye]

If you want to reform the system, no problem, let the old workers integrate into the new system seamlessly, no need for a total shutdown to transition.

Same nonsense regarding UWI Debe campus.

I saw this CEPEP shut down coming, did not expect it to be this distasteful and so soon.

Why do we have so many entities doing the same thing or having the same purpose: CEPEP , URP , CORPORATION, WORKS.

Uninformed and quick to condemn. Those entities work in different districts. The workforce is not only made up of the roadway laborers and their contractors.

[The_Honourable]

What's the budget spend for cEPEP/URP?

The 10k is 0.8% of the population...(1.3M?)

Found this:

CEPEP expenditure (in millions):

2014: $532,557,459

2015: $606,200,000

2016: $531,587,765

2017: $450,000,000

2018: $447,997,789

2019: $353,540,125

2020: $400,400,000

2021: $443,873,623

2022: $426,593,000

2023: $456,500,000

TOTAL: $4,649,249,761 (as of 2023)

Source: https://trinidadexpress.com/business/lo ... 7983a.html


2024: $505,500,000

2025: $466,000,000

Source: https://newsday.co.tt/2024/10/02/increa ... porations/


So over 5 Billion has been spend on CEPEP in the last 10 years.

[one eye]

The maths works out fine for a fiscal year.

Who will do the work then?

You want them to work for free?

[Dizzy28]

The maths works out fine for a fiscal year.

Who will do the work then?

You want them to work for free?

The private sector is starving for employees
Ofc it means actually working 8 hours a day and not 1

[pugboy]

it’s more like 2 maybe 3 hrs lol
they finish around 10-11

The maths works out fine for a fiscal year.

Who will do the work then?

You want them to work for free?

The private sector is starving for employees
Ofc it means actually working 8 hours a day and not 1

[one eye]

So the private sector is going to take up the mantle in CEPEP daily operations and beautify state land?

Private sector workforce is migrating for better opportunities.

[Dizzy28]

So the private sector is going to take up the mantle in CEPEP daily operations and beautify state land?

Private sector workforce is migrating for better opportunities.

Yes.what prevents putting that in the hand of the pure private sector through competitive bidding?

[pugboy]

don’t try to compare cepep to private sector tho
you can even try to blur the lines
12 ppl doing the job which should take 2 ppl
and picking up litter which only encouraging littering

[Dizzy28]

One eye has to have a cepep gang the way he defends this. It was after all the way pnm rewarded their midlevel supporters.

Eric created the gimme gimme mentality and all subsequent leaders built on it.

[hover11]

Right now one eye toating his cepep contract he had for the past 10 years gone snd he has to return his PBR pass by Tuesday

[pugboy]

lenny saith was the mastermind who moved it from direct govt dewd/urp 10days into a private contractor scheme which opened door for more bobol and kickbacks
now every criminal could legitimize themselves as a “contractor”
every single east pos gangster runs or is part of such contractor bobol
doh forget pnm created a company
called east POS ltd to help them register company and ting so they could tender for bobol wuk
like build $109k bus stop

[Dizzy28]

lenny saith was the mastermind who moved it from direct govt dewd/urp 10days into a private contractor scheme which opened door for more bobol and kickbacks
now every criminal could legitimize themselves as a “contractor”
every single east pos gangster runs or is part of such contractor bobol
doh forget pnm created a company
called east POS ltd to help them register company and ting so they could tender for bobol wuk
like build $109k bus stop

There's an accountant in Trincity who does the accounts for multiple cepep contractors. The list includes former mayors and well placed party big wigs.

At this point anyone who supports cepep benefits directly from it or just a partisan hack that really do not care about Trinidad and Tobago.

[one eye]

The same $500m/yr that is benefitting CEPEP workers, you rather the government hire private sector contractors who will probably overcharge and cost the state excess contingencies who will not employ anyone without formal education like CEPEP does?

The way I defend this?

10,500 + 2000 forestry workers ARE JOBLESS!

These people are vulnerable and rely heavily on these organizations to make ends meet.

Where is your compassion?

[Dizzy28]

The same $500m/yr that is benefitting CEPEP workers, you rather the government hire private sector contractors who will probably overcharge and cost the state excess contingencies who will not employ anyone without formal education like CEPEP does?

The way I defend this?

10,500 + 2000 forestry workers ARE JOBLESS!

These people are vulnerable and rely heavily on these organizations to make ends meet.

Where is your compassion?

10+k jobless people depending on make work handouts is a failure of the government to create a sustainable economy.

If only we could find out who led this country for most of it's history and more or less hold the most responsibility

[pugboy]

they should publicize the list of cepep companies and ppl behind them

[hover11]

I rather the government take that 500 m a year to pave not patch ALL the roads in this country and pay public servants their increase, idgaf about compassion right about now

The same $500m/yr that is benefitting CEPEP workers, you rather the government hire private sector contractors who will probably overcharge and cost the state excess contingencies who will not employ anyone without formal education like CEPEP does?

The way I defend this?

10,500 + 2000 forestry workers ARE JOBLESS!

These people are vulnerable and rely heavily on these organizations to make ends meet.

Where is your compassion?

[hover11]

MP MICHELLE BENJAMIN posted on her social media platforms;

For ten years, the PNM treated CEPEP like it was their personal PNM-EP — a campaign fund in boots and overalls.

Let’s be clear: this isn’t about punishing workers. They’ll be rehired. What’s being cleared out is the tangle of shady contracts that were handed out like party favours in an election season.

Take Moruga/Tableland, for example. There were ten contractors on the books — a manageable, transparent number. Then, as the election loomed, five more contractors magically appeared in the week before the vote. Just like that. Some contracts were even “renewed” on election day itself. Seriously?

How could anyone look at that and call it right?

CEPEP was built to serve communities — not campaigns. To clean up public spaces, not to clean out the treasury. We’re here to plant trees, not votes. To build up, not prop up.

Let’s get back to the real work — honest, decent, and dignified. No more wine, jam, and padded invoices.


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PNM making contracts on election day well yes , unless they make a law stating when parliament is dissolved that no government can enter into contracts until election is over this will always be an issue

[The_Honourable]

they should publicize the list of cepep companies and ppl behind them

THIS!!!

Publish the names of the contractors and you will be surprised who feeding and for how long.

Since the company is now under public utilities, don't be surprised that Barry buss files in parliament.

[pugboy]

wont happen though, remember yellow party hacks gonna be the contractors now.

I recall last time, a particular guy got huge contracts in mayaro/guaya area because his contracts were deemed "marine" work and more technical

they should publicize the list of cepep companies and ppl behind them

THIS!!!

Publish the names of the contractors and you will be surprised who feeding and for how long.

Since the company is now under public utilities, don't be surprised that Barry buss files in parliament.

[16 cycles]

No way a serious country should be held to ransom for gangsters to keep the peace for a state contract.

Quote a few ppl lost lives over those and WASA contracts.

[MaxPower]

Expect a crime wave

[Gladiator]

What won't make the headlines is the abuse of CEPEP by the PNM and their cronies. CEPEP was used to maintain private residences, look after people private estates, do work for private companies with no compensation, used as free labour for PNM events, fetes, sports day etc etc, pressure wash people place for Christmas time

Hell i worked for a company that needed some concrete works done, casting a walkway, building a berm and casting a driveway. Quotes came in and the cost was around 30K. Jusso we came in a Monday morning and all works completed... when the mark buss, a senior PNM person who has links in the company bring "his" CEPEP crew and did the work.

[paid_influencer]

Expect a crime wave

island will be extra dirty too

[hover11]

When did Trinidad become a welfare state are ppl seriously ok with persons working 4 hours a day and getting paid for a full day's work. Where are we getting the money to sustain this initiative with a declining energy sector

[Dizzy28]

When did Trinidad become a welfare state are ppl seriously ok with persons working 4 hours a day and getting paid for a full day's work. Where are we getting the money to sustain this initiative with a declining energy sector

Think bout the yutes and dem, also the single mothers have to buy books soon dan boi dan boi!!!

We can't make up our minds in this country whether subsidies and transfers are good or bad.

[Chimera]

All those workers can be absorbed into many other programs that pay a stipend and actually train you to do something or be something.