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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby Dave » February 28th, 2020, 12:00 pm

Holding the variable of supply constant then the variable is tank condition and contamination?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby MG Man » February 28th, 2020, 12:37 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Exactly it's a nice insurance

Right now my neighbour's hilux down for injectors

My van doing 320000 and no blue smoke or black smoke and very quiet and smooth

I use the redline that removes water . I buy one a month and divide into half

In between I use the unipet cleaner which is cheaper
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VexXx Dogg wrote:If you adding a 70 dollar treatment each fuel fill, bess you switch back to a gas vehicle!

This applies to the tray virgins


talk to them mechanics and find out how much money people spending when they get bad fuel

check out the hilux group on fb

i personally know someone who spend 27k to fix his diesel Tucson after a bad full up

i lend out 2 of my cars to two friends who fraid to drive their hiluxes

sookhais busy like hell with injector work
When we start importing diesel fuel?
When did the fuel issues start?

I sold my van in Aug 2019 and had zero diesel issues. Finding this odd


yeah I've had my 1.6 since around 2016 and never had fuelling issues
I usually fill at Brentwood. Other places I've filled are St Christophers, the new place by Munro flyover, and the new one in Macoya....filled up in Princes Town once

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby PariaMan » February 28th, 2020, 4:19 pm

One time about 4 years ago filled up in Santa Cruz before I started to use treatment regularly

Loss power carried back to toyota

Said an injector was clogged and showed me the state of the filter

Cost a nice change

Went back by the gas station and they said a few Van's had the same problem after filling up

What I use to notice before using treatments regularly is sometimes I would get blue smoke on morning or a real rough idle

I would then use a treatment

Now with regular use of treatment I never get rough idle or blue smoke and the engine real smooth

I understand that the common rail are more susceptible to poor diesel

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 28th, 2020, 4:42 pm

Any pics of the diesel kleen??

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby xtech » February 28th, 2020, 4:44 pm

Unipet Santa Flora had water in diesel about 2 years ago and a lot of diesel vans including my Hyundai H1 got messed up. I shut down on the way to sando.

Took it to Massy they had to flush the fuel system and clean the injectors pump and drain the tank hand me a hefty bill.

Gave the bill to the gas station.....
They paid the bill

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby carluva » February 28th, 2020, 5:43 pm

How does a treatment remove water?
PariaMan wrote:Exactly it's a nice insurance

Right now my neighbour's hilux down for injectors

My van doing 320000 and no blue smoke or black smoke and very quiet and smooth

I use the redline that removes water . I buy one a month and divide into half

In between I use the unipet cleaner which is cheaper
Phone Surgeon wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:If you adding a 70 dollar treatment each fuel fill, bess you switch back to a gas vehicle!

This applies to the tray virgins


talk to them mechanics and find out how much money people spending when they get bad fuel

check out the hilux group on fb

i personally know someone who spend 27k to fix his diesel Tucson after a bad full up

i lend out 2 of my cars to two friends who fraid to drive their hiluxes

sookhais busy like hell with injector work

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby carluva » February 28th, 2020, 5:44 pm

Can you send the specific names of the treatments that you use? Or perhaps a couple of pics??
PariaMan wrote:One time about 4 years ago filled up in Santa Cruz before I started to use treatment regularly

Loss power carried back to toyota

Said an injector was clogged and showed me the state of the filter

Cost a nice change

Went back by the gas station and they said a few Van's had the same problem after filling up

What I use to notice before using treatments regularly is sometimes I would get blue smoke on morning or a real rough idle

I would then use a treatment

Now with regular use of treatment I never get rough idle or blue smoke and the engine real smooth

I understand that the common rail are more susceptible to poor diesel

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby pugboy » February 28th, 2020, 5:54 pm

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby PariaMan » February 28th, 2020, 8:22 pm

carluva wrote:How does a treatment remove water?
PariaMan wrote:Exactly it's a nice insurance

Right now my neighbour's hilux down for injectors

My van doing 320000 and no blue smoke or black smoke and very quiet and smooth

I use the redline that removes water . I buy one a month and divide into half

In between I use the unipet cleaner which is cheaper
Phone Surgeon wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:If you adding a 70 dollar treatment each fuel fill, bess you switch back to a gas vehicle!

This applies to the tray virgins


talk to them mechanics and find out how much money people spending when they get bad fuel

check out the hilux group on fb

i personally know someone who spend 27k to fix his diesel Tucson after a bad full up

i lend out 2 of my cars to two friends who fraid to drive their hiluxes

sookhais busy like hell with injector work
The label says one bottle removes up to 3 ounces of water
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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby PariaMan » February 28th, 2020, 8:24 pm

That is why I chose it
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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby carluva » February 28th, 2020, 10:55 pm

http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-dies ... additives/

Came across this an interestingly enough the Diesel kleen and red line 85 are recommended. And that seems to be the ones a few of you use. Wouldn't hurt to try it in a D4D doing 92,000 km. What's the dosage like and can bothe be used interchangeably?

Where can I buy in central?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby *KRONIK* » February 28th, 2020, 11:21 pm

Diesel kleen
65 in pricesmart for a 32oz bottle
Works out to 8oz per fill up for the hilux/fortuner.

Most parts shops have the redline 85plus.
Price varies 65-80 dollars
carluva wrote:http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-diesel-fuel-additives/

Came across this an interestingly enough the Diesel kleen and red line 85 are recommended. And that seems to be the ones a few of you use. Wouldn't hurt to try it in a D4D doing 92,000 km. What's the dosage like and can bothe be used interchangeably?

Where can I buy in central?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby carluva » February 28th, 2020, 11:26 pm

You use any of these Kronik?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby carluva » February 28th, 2020, 11:31 pm

Also seeing on diesel kleen website that they have a water treatment and a microbial treatment. Anyone ever used any of those?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby *KRONIK* » February 28th, 2020, 11:34 pm

I use all of them

Amsoil
Liquimoly
Redline
Diesel kleen

I like the liquimoly
Van idles quietest with this 1.

I like the diesel kleen for performance. Van does get on badddd when i use that.

I think amsoil is a placebo, i really dont feel any difference with it... dont mean it aint working, i just dont feel any noticable difference.

The redline dont do much for the hilux either, used to do wonders in my 3.0 wildtrak tho.
carluva wrote:You use any of these Kronik?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby *KRONIK* » February 28th, 2020, 11:35 pm

Never seen them locally.


Best treatment for algae is to run the tank low.

I cant do that, my fuel guage stop working
carluva wrote:Also seeing on diesel kleen website that they have a water treatment and a microbial treatment. Anyone ever used any of those?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby *KRONIK* » February 28th, 2020, 11:37 pm

Best treament for water is to bleed the primer pump every 1000kms, just a couple pumps in a chubby bottle.
Remove any sediments and settled water before the filter light comes on
carluva wrote:Also seeing on diesel kleen website that they have a water treatment and a microbial treatment. Anyone ever used any of those?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby *KRONIK* » February 28th, 2020, 11:38 pm

Bizol is a next placebo too, no noticable difference
*KRONIK* wrote:I use all of them

Amsoil
Liquimoly
Redline
Diesel kleen

I like the liquimoly
Van idles quietest with this 1.

I like the diesel kleen for performance. Van does get on badddd when i use that.

I think amsoil is a placebo, i really dont feel any difference with it... dont mean it aint working, i just dont feel any noticable difference.

The redline dont do much for the hilux either, used to do wonders in my 3.0 wildtrak tho.
carluva wrote:You use any of these Kronik?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby supercharged turbo » February 28th, 2020, 11:41 pm

Any recommendations for new diesel vehicles?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby Cantmis » February 29th, 2020, 12:09 am

Are you all using OEM fuel filters ?

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby RedVEVO » February 29th, 2020, 12:30 am

supercharged turbo wrote:Any recommendations for new diesel vehicles?


Change oil every 5,000 KM

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby RedVEVO » February 29th, 2020, 12:32 am

*KRONIK* wrote:Bizol is a next placebo too, no noticable difference
*KRONIK* wrote:I use all of them

Amsoil
Liquimoly
Redline
Diesel kleen

I like the liquimoly
Van idles quietest with this 1.

I like the diesel kleen for performance. Van does get on badddd when i use that.

I think amsoil is a placebo, i really dont feel any difference with it... dont mean it aint working, i just dont feel any noticable difference.

The redline dont do much for the hilux either, used to do wonders in my 3.0 wildtrak tho.
carluva wrote:You use any of these Kronik?


Moly is more for the european vehicles ..

Forget it if you have a diesel Tiida ..

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby Dizzy28 » February 29th, 2020, 6:19 am

As Angry canine asked earlier.... What is the value prop for diesel with so much more hassle and hidden costs??

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby *KRONIK* » February 29th, 2020, 6:45 am

supercharged turbo wrote:Any recommendations for new diesel vehicles?



liquimoly common rail additive

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby *KRONIK* » February 29th, 2020, 6:46 am

Curtms wrote:Are you all using OEM fuel filters ?


i do, yes

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby pugboy » February 29th, 2020, 7:19 am

agreed, only when diesel was $2 or less it was a steal to drive a pickup
with price now and cost of tires etc a car is more savings effective for the budget minded folks

the best advice is to buy diesel only from particular gas stations and use occasional treatment and well
only drive a vehicle with proven engine for our conditions

Dizzy28 wrote:As Angry canine asked earlier.... What is the value prop for diesel with so much more hassle and hidden costs??

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby Joshie23 » February 29th, 2020, 8:18 am

Dizzy28 wrote:As Angry canine asked earlier.... What is the value prop for diesel with so much more hassle and hidden costs??

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None, really, because as was discussed somewhere higher in the thread, diesel engines, more so common rail engines, are more susceptible to poor quality diesel which is apparently ever present. Combine that with a higher maintenance cost (preventative and corrective) and diesel variants locally are no longer as attractive, unless you're planning to 2C or QD32 swap it straight out the dealership..

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby PariaMan » February 29th, 2020, 8:42 am

Tru what you saying

Though I must say my hilux at 12 years and 320000 km
with minimal problems have been well worth it
Joshie23 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:As Angry canine asked earlier.... What is the value prop for diesel with so much more hassle and hidden costs??

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None, really, because as was discussed somewhere higher in the thread, diesel engines, more so common rail engines, are more susceptible to poor quality diesel which is apparently ever present. Combine that with a higher maintenance cost (preventative and corrective) and diesel variants locally are no longer as attractive, unless you're planning to 2C or QD32 swap it straight out the dealership..

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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby carluva » February 29th, 2020, 12:53 pm

Pumped this out of the fuel filter this morning and left to settle for about 2 hours What y'all think? A lil bit of sediments if you look closely.

Is this a good indication on fuel quality in the vehicle?
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Re: High sulphur diesel endangering luxury vehicles

Postby carluva » February 29th, 2020, 12:54 pm

I bought the red line. Put half bottle and a fuel tank that's showing just under half on the fuel gauge. I'll see how that works later as I'm making a hiway run and should be able to ascertain any performance improvement. Will report back later or tomorrow.

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