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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby bluefete » March 14th, 2014, 8:15 pm

Malaysia is 12 hours ahead of T&T.

15 March 2014| last updated at 07:18AM

MISSING MH370: Piracy theory gains more credence




KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia: Piracy and pilot suicide are among the scenarios under study as investigators grow increasingly certain the missing Malaysian Airlines jet changed course and headed west after its last radio contact with air traffic controllers.

The latest evidence suggests the plane didn’t experience a catastrophic incident over the South China Sea as was initially suspected.

Some experts theorise that one of the pilots, or someone else with flying experience, hijacked the plane or committed suicide by plunging the jet into the sea.

Adding to the speculation that someone was flying the jet, The New York Times on Friday quoted sources familiar with the investigation as saying that the plane experienced significant changes in altitude after it lost contact with ground control, and altered its course more than once.

A U.S. official told The Associated Press earlier that investigators are examining the possibility of “human intervention” in the plane’s disappearance, adding it may have been “an act of piracy.”

The official, who wasn’t authorised to talk to the media and spoke on condition of anonymity, said it also was possible the plane may have landed somewhere. The official later said there was no solid information on who might have been involved.

While other theories are still being examined, the official said key evidence suggesting human intervention is that contact with the Boeing 777’s transponder stopped about a dozen minutes before a messaging system on the jet quit. Such a gap would be unlikely in the case of an in-flight catastrophe.

A Malaysian official, who also declined to be identified because he is not authorized to brief the media, said only a skilled aviator could navigate the plane the way it was flown after its last confirmed location over the South China Sea.

The official said it had been established with a “more than 50 percent” degree of certainty that military radar had picked up the missing plane after it dropped off civilian radar.

Malaysia’s acting transport minister, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein, said the country had yet to determine what happened to the plane after it ceased communicating with ground control around 40 minutes into the flight to Beijing on March 8 with 239 people aboard.

He said investigators were still trying to establish that military radar records of a blip moving west across the Malay Peninsula into the Strait of Malacca showed Flight MH370.

“I will be the most happiest person if we can actually confirm that it is the MH370, then we can move all (search) assets from the South China Sea to the Strait of Malacca,” he told reporters.

Until then, he said, the international search effort would continue expanding east and west from the plane’s last confirmed location.

Though some investigators are now convinced that “human intervention” caused the disappearance, U.S. officials told the White House at a briefing Friday that they have “run all the traps” and come up with no good information on who might been involved, according to an official familiar with the meeting.

The meeting was attended by State and Defence Department officials, the CIA, the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board, among others.

“I don’t think there is any consensus on a theory,” the official said. “They’re not hearing anything in their surveillance that would indicate that this is part of a plot.”

Another U.S. official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said investigators looking for the plane have run out of clues except for a type of satellite data that has never been used before to find a missing plane, and is very inexact.

The data consists of attempts by an Inmarsat satellite to identify a broad area where the plane might be in case a messaging system aboard the plane should need to connect with the satellite, said the official.

The official compared the location attempts, called a “handshake,” to someone driving around with their cellphone not in use.

As the phone from passes from the range of one cellphone tower to another, the towers note that the phone is in range in case messages needed to be sent.

In the case of the Malaysian plane, there were successful attempts by the satellite to roughly locate the Boeing 777 about once an hour over four to five hours, the official said.

“This is all brand new to us,” the official said. “We’ve never had to use satellite handshaking as the best possible source of information.”

The New York Times, quoting American officials and others familiar with the investigation, said radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the airliner climbing to 45,000 feet (about 13,700 meters), higher than a Boeing 777’s approved limit, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar, and making a sharp turn to the west.

The radar track then shows the plane descending unevenly to an altitude of 23,000 feet (7,000 meters), below normal cruising levels, before rising again and flying northwest over the Strait of Malacca toward the Indian Ocean, the Times reported.

Scores of aircraft and ships from 12 countries are involved in the search, which reaches into the eastern stretches of the South China Sea and on the western side of the Malay Peninsula, northwest into the Andaman Sea and the Indian Ocean.

India said it was using heat sensors on flights over hundreds of Andaman Sea islands Friday and would expand the search for the missing jet farther west into the Bay of Bengal, more than 1,600 kilometres (about 1,000 miles) to the west of the plane’s last known position.

A team of five U.S. officials with air traffic control and radar expertise — three from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board and two from the Federal Aviation Administration — has been in Kuala Lumpur since Monday to assist with the investigation.

White House spokesman Jay Carney sidestepped questions Friday about the possibility of human intervention in the plane disappearance, saying only that U.S. officials were assisting in the investigation.

“I don’t have conclusive answers and I don’t think anyone does,” Carney said. --AP

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby maj. tom » March 14th, 2014, 8:25 pm

next thing the plane show up in Somalia :shock:

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Postby bluefete » March 15th, 2014, 2:52 am

15 March 2014| last updated at 10:42AM
MISSING MH370: Plane may have run out of fuel over Indian Ocean



KUALA LUMPUR/WASHINGTON: Faint electronic signals sent to satellites from a missing Malaysian jetliner show it may have been flown thousands of miles off course before running out of fuel over the Indian Ocean, a source familiar with official U.S. assessments said.

Analysis in Malaysia and the United States of military radar tracking and pulses detected by satellites are starting to piece together an extraordinary picture of what may have happened to the plane after it lost contact with civilian air traffic.

The fate of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370, and the 239 passengers and crew aboard, has been shrouded in mystery since it vanished off Malaysia's east coast less than an hour into a March 8 scheduled flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Investigators are focusing increasingly on foul play, as evidence suggests the plane turned sharply west after its disappearance and - with its communications systems deliberately switched off - continued to fly for perhaps several hours.

"What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards," said the source, a senior Malaysian police official.

A U.S. source familiar with the investigation said there was also discussion within the U.S. government that the plane's disappearance might have involved an act of piracy.

A source familiar with data the U.S. government is receiving from the investigation said the pulses sent to satellites were ambiguous and had been interpreted to provide two different analyses.

The electronic signals were believed to have been transmitted for several hours after the plane flew out of radar range, said the source familiar with the data.

The most likely possibility is that, after travelling northwest, the Boeing 777-200ER made a sharp turn to the south, over the Indian Ocean where officials think, based on the available data, it flew until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea, added the source.

The other interpretation is that Flight MH370 continued to fly to the northwest and headed over Indian territory.

The source added that it was believed unlikely the plane flew for any length of time over India because that country has strong air defence and radar coverage and that should have allowed authorities there to see the plane and intercept it.

Either way, the analysis of satellite data appears to support the radar evidence outlined by sources familiar with the investigation in Malaysia.

Two sources told Reuters that military radar data showed an unidentified aircraft that investigators suspect was Flight MH370 following a commonly used commercial, navigational route towards the Middle East and Europe.

That course - headed into the Andaman Sea and towards the Bay of Bengal in the Indian Ocean - could only have been set deliberately, either by flying the Boeing 777-200ER jet manually or by programming the auto-pilot.

The disappearance of the Boeing 777 - one of the safest commercial jets in service - is shaping into one of the most baffling mysteries in aviation history.

It is extremely rare for a modern passenger aircraft to disappear once it has reached cruising altitude, as MH370 had. When that does happen, the debris from a crash is usually found close to its last known position relatively quickly.

In this case, there has been no trace of the plane, nor any sign of wreckage, as the navies and military aircraft of more than a dozen countries scour the seas on both sides of peninsular Malaysia.

"A normal investigation becomes narrower with time ... as new information focuses the search, but this is not a normal investigation," Malaysian Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein told a news conference on Friday.

"In this case, the information has forced us to look further and further afield."

India has deployed ships, planes and helicopters from the remote, forested and mostly uninhabited Andaman and Nicobar Islands, at the juncture of the Bay of Bengal and the Andaman Sea.

"This operation is like finding a needle in a haystack," said Harmeet Singh, spokesman for the armed forces in the islands.

Britain's Inmarsat said "routine, automated signals" from MH370 were seen on its satellite network during the plane's flight from Kuala Lumpur and had been shared with authorities, but gave no other details.

If the jetliner did fly into the Indian Ocean, a vast expanse with depths of more than 7,000 metres (23,000 feet), the task faced by searchers would become dramatically more difficult. Winds and currents could shift any surface debris tens of nautical miles within hours.

"Ships alone are not going to get you that coverage, helicopters are barely going to make a dent in it and only a few countries fly P-3s (long-range search aircraft)," William Marks, spokesman for the U.S. Seventh Fleet, told Reuters.

The U.S. Navy was sending an advanced P-8A Poseidon plane to help search the Strait of Malacca, a busy sealane separating the Malay peninsula from the Indonesian island of Sumatra. It had already deployed a Navy P-3 Orion aircraft to those waters.

The last sighting of the aircraft on civilian radar screens came shortly before 1:30 a.m. last Saturday, less than an hour after take-off. It was flying across the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand on the eastern side of Malaysia towards Vietnam.

Malaysia's air force chief said on Wednesday that an aircraft that could have been the missing plane was plotted on military radar at 2:15 am, 200 miles (320 km) northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia's west coast.

This position marks the limit of Malaysia's military radar in that part of the country, another source familiar with the investigation told Reuters. --REUTERS

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maj. tom wrote:next thing the plane show up in Somalia :shock:


maj.tom - Well, maybe not quite Somalia! But then one never knows. You may be on to something there.

NOTE: This has NOT been confirmed by officials from Malaysia!!! DM again, nuh!

It WAS hijacked: Malaysian official says it's CONCLUSIVE jet carrying 239 was seized at 35,000 ft by individual or group 'with significant flying experience'

By Associated Press Reporter and Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 04:29 GMT, 15 March 2014 | UPDATED: 06:36 GMT, 15 March 2014

Investigators have concluded that one or more people with significant flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, switched off communication devices and steered it off-course, a Malaysian government official involved in the investigation said Saturday.

No motive has been established and no demands have been made known, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken, said the official.

However, the representative who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that hijacking was no longer just a theory: 'It is conclusive', he told Associated Press.

The Boeing 777's communication with the ground was severed just under one hour into a flight March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Malaysian officials have said radar data suggests it may have turned back and crossed over the Malaysian peninsula after setting out on a northeastern path toward the Chinese capital.

Experts say signals from the plane shows it continued for at least five hours before all contact was lost.

The plane soared to 45,000 feet before making a sharp turn west then descending to 23,000 feet, according to military radar records.

Earlier, an American official told The Associated Press that investigators were examining the possibility of 'human intervention' in the plane's disappearance, adding it may have been 'an act of piracy'.

The U.S. official said key evidence suggesting human intervention is that contact with the Boeing 777's transponder stopped about a dozen minutes before a messaging system on the jet quit. Such a gap would be unlikely in the case of an in-flight catastrophe.

The Malaysian official said only a skilled aviator could navigate the plane the way it was flown after its last confirmed location over the South China Sea, and that it appeared to have been steered to avoid radar detection.

The official said it had been established with a 'more than 50 percent' degree of certainty that military radar had picked up the missing plane after it dropped off civilian radar.

Why anyone would want to do this is unclear. Malaysian authorities and others will be urgently investigating the backgrounds of the two pilots and 10 crew members, as well the 227 passengers on board.

Some experts have said that pilot suicide may be the most likely explanation for the disappearance, as was suspected in a SilkAir crash during a flight from Singapore to Jakarta in 1997 and an EgyptAir flight in 1999.

A massive international search effort began initially in the South China Sea where the plane's transponders stopped transmitting. It has since been expanded onto the other side of the Malay peninsula up into the Andaman Sea and into the Indian Ocean.

Scores of aircraft and ships from 12 countries are involved in the search.

The plane had enough fuel to fly for at least five hours after its last know location, meaning a vast swath of South and Southeast Asia would be within its reach.

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U.S. says missing Malaysian jet could be 'act of PIRACY': Evidence shows plane changed direction and climbed thousands of feet 'under command of a pilot' after tracking devices were manually disabled
Pilots who were flying missing Malaysian jet under police investigation amid fears the plane was hijacked by people with aviation training

Investigators are analyzing radar and satellite data from around the region to try and pinpoint its final location, something that will be vital to hopes of finding the plane, and answering the mystery of what happened to it.

The USS Kidd arrived in the Strait of Malacca late Friday afternoon and will be searching in the Andaman Sea, and into the Bay of Bengal. It uses a using a 'creeping-line' search method of following a pattern of equally spaced parallel lines in an effort to completely cover the area.

A P-8A Poseidon, the most advanced long range anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare aircraft in the world, will arrive Saturday and be sweeping the southern portion of the Bay of Bengal and the northern portion of the Indian Ocean. It has a nine-member crew and has advanced surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities, the department of defense said in a statement.

Another U.S. official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said investigators looking for the plane have run out of clues except for a type of satellite data that has never been used before to find a missing plane, and is very inexact.

The data consists of attempts by an Inmarsat satellite to identify a broad area where the plane might be in case a messaging system aboard the plane should need to connect with the satellite, said the official.

The official compared the location attempts, called a 'handshake', to someone driving around with their cellphone not in use. As the phone from passes from the range of one cellphone tower to another, the towers note that the phone is in range in case messages need to be sent.

In the case of the Malaysian plane, there were successful attempts by the satellite to roughly locate the Boeing 777 about once an hour over four to five hours, the official said.

'This is all brand new to us,' the official said. 'We've never had to use satellite handshaking as the best possible source of information.'

The handshake does not transmit any data on the plane's altitude, airspeed or other information that might help in locating it, the official said. Instead, searchers are trying to use the handshakes to triangulate the general area of where the plane last was known to have been at the last satellite check, the official said.

'It is telling us the airplane was continuing to operate,' the official said, plus enough information on location so that the satellite will know how many degrees to turn to adjust its antenna to pick up any messages from the plane.

The official confirmed prior reports that following the loss of contact with the plane's transponder, the plane turned west. A transponder emits signals that are picked up by radar providing a unique identifier for each plane along with altitude.

Malaysian military radar continued to pick up the plane as a whole 'paintskin' - a radar blip that has no unique identifier - until it traveled beyond the reach of radar, which is about 200 miles offshore, the official said.

The New York Times, quoting American officials and others familiar with the investigation, said radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the airliner climbing to 45,000 feet higher than a Boeing 777's approved limit, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar, and making a sharp turn to the west.

The radar track then shows the plane descending unevenly to an altitude of 23,000 feet below normal cruising levels, before rising again and flying northwest over the Strait of Malacca toward the Indian Ocean, the Times reported.

Malaysia has come under fire for what has been described as a 'pretty chaotic' search, with China saying the overall search effort has consequently been mired in confusion after a series of false alarms, rumors and contradictory statements.

Meanwhile, the hijacking news comes following revelations that two pilots at the helm of the missing Malaysia Airlines passenger jet are being investigated.

Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, and Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27, are the subject of a police investigation, airline executives have admitted, and could have their homes searched.

Police in Malaysia have said they are looking at the psychological background of the pilots, their family life and connections as one line of inquiry into flight MH370's disappearance.

In the days since the flight went missing, it has emerged that Shah was so passionate about flying he has is own flight simulator at home, and that Hamid once invited two women to spend an entire flight in the cockpit with him.

The men may have their homes searched as part of the probe, as new information suggests that the plane's course was diverted by capable pilots.

As the search continued for the missing Boeing 777, military radar suggested the plane was deliberately flown towards India's Andaman Islands.

Two sources familiar with the investigation said an unidentified aircraft - which investigators believe was flight MH370 - was plotted by military radar following a route between navigational waypoints.

This indicates that it was either being flown by the pilots or someone with knowledge of those waypoints, the sources said.

The last plot on the military radar's tracking suggested the plane was flying towards India's Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal, they said.

Waypoints are geographic locations, worked out by calculating longitude and latitude, that help pilots navigate along established air corridors.

India recently began searching hundreds of uninhabited islands in the Andaman Sea, using heat-seeking devices.

Two Indian air force reconnaissance planes began flying over the islands as a precaution, after they and two naval ships scoured the seas surrounding the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, according to spokesman Col. Harmit Singh of India's Tri-Services Command on the territory.

The archipelago that stretches south of Myanmar contains 572 islands covering an area of 720 by 52 kilometers. Only 37 are inhabited, with the rest covered in dense forests.

The US navy on Friday ordered a ship to the Indian Ocean to search for a missing Malaysian airliner amid reports the plane kept 'pinging' a satellite after losing radar contact.

The focus of search efforts shifted on Thursday from the South China Sea after the US said 'new information' indicated that Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 may have gone down to the west in the Indian Ocean.

China, which had more than 150 citizens on board the missing plane, has deployed four warships, four coastguard vessels, eight aircraft and trained 10 satellites on a wide search area.

Chinese media have described the ship deployment as the largest Chinese rescue fleet ever assembled.

The Boeing 777 has one of the best safety records of any commercial aircraft in service.

Its only previous fatal crash came on July 6 last year when Asiana Airlines Flight 214 struck a sea wall with its undercarriage on landing in San Francisco. Three people died in the incident.
THREE TYPES OF SIGNALS GIVEN OFF BY PLANES, AND HOW THEY RELATE TO MISSING MH370

The missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 sent signals to a satellite for four hours after the aircraft went missing, an indication that it was still flying for hundreds of miles or more, according to a U.S. official briefed on the search for the jet.

This raises the possibility that the plane may have flown far from the current search areas.

Here is a look at three types of signals planes give off, and how they relate to the missing jetliner:

TRANSPONDERS

Transponders are electronic devices that automatically identify commercial aircraft within air traffic control radar range and transmit information on the plane's identity, location and altitude to ground radar stations. Beyond radar range, they enable planes to be identified and tracked anywhere in the world by satellite. Transponders can be turned off by pilots.

The missing jet's transponder last communicated with Malaysian civilian radar about an hour after takeoff, when the plane was above the Gulf of Thailand between Malaysia and southern Vietnam.

ACARS

ACARS - or Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System - is a data link system used to transmit short messages such as weather updates and status reports between aircraft and ground stations via radio or satellite.

According to the U.S. official, ACARS messages sent by the missing plane continued after its transponder went silent, although he wasn't certain for how long.

OPERATING DATA SENT VIA SATELLITE

Boeing offers a satellite service that can receive data during a flight on how the aircraft is functioning and relay the information to the plane's home base. The idea is to provide information before the plane lands on whether maintenance work or repairs are needed. Even if an airline does not subscribe to the service, planes still periodically send automated signals - or pings - to the satellite seeking to establish contact.

Malaysia Airlines did not subscribe to the satellite service. The U.S. official said automated pings were received from the jetliner for four hours after it went missing, indicating it probably flew for hundreds of miles beyond its last confirmed sighting on radar.



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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby urabus » March 15th, 2014, 2:58 am

Seems like too much ppl have varying theories....,.

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Postby bluefete » March 15th, 2014, 3:08 am

urabus wrote:Seems like too much ppl have varying theories....,.


True. But I am sure, given all the available technology, that someone knows what happened. It would be sad though if the aircraft ran out of fuel over the Indian Ocean.

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Postby RASC » March 15th, 2014, 4:32 am

This story really brings back the reality that the world is huge dangerous and very unpredictable.

In 2014 who would've thought an entire passenger jet could just vanish. It's almost unthinkable with the sheer amount of technology around/available to us.

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Postby RichieRich » March 15th, 2014, 6:35 am

RASC wrote:This story really brings back the reality that the world is huge dangerous and very unpredictable.

In 2014 who would've thought an entire passenger jet could just vanish. It's almost unthinkable with the sheer amount of technology around/available to us.
man made technology, so they can break it as well

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Postby Ted_v2 » March 15th, 2014, 7:26 am

RASC wrote:This story really brings back the reality that the world is huge dangerous and very unpredictable.

In 2014 who would've thought an entire passenger jet could just vanish. It's almost unthinkable with the sheer amount of technology around/available to us.


exactly, What i believe tho, is that they dont wanna be found and living on a island like in Lost the series. :|

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Postby Cid » March 15th, 2014, 9:07 am

Great job on d updates guyz

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Postby toyota2nr » March 15th, 2014, 10:07 am

redmanjp wrote:is either someone hijack it & turn off all communications, or some 'Bermuda triangle' chit/alien abduction went on


With each day that passes the alien abduction theory becoming more and more believable.....

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Postby maj. tom » March 15th, 2014, 10:14 am

Malaysia has been so incompetent in this investigation! Releasing stories via "unnamed officials" and then officially refuting them the next day, and then confirming it 2 days later. And it has not been a proper investigation because the Malaysian government has been withholding a lot of vital information.
They have now started to investigate the passenger list for anyone with flight simulator experience. They searched the pilot's house today.



Malaysian: Investigators conclude flight hijacked
By EILEEN NG and JOAN LOWY / Associated Press / March 14, 2014

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — A Malaysian government official says investigators have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.

The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.

The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory. ‘‘It is conclusive.’’

The Boeing 777’s communication with the ground was severed under one hour into a flight March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Malaysian officials have said radar data suggest it may have turned back and crossed back over the Malaysian peninsula westward, after setting out toward the Chinese capital.
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Postby javishm » March 15th, 2014, 12:40 pm

maj. tom wrote: the Malaysian government has been withholding a lot of vital information.


This

maj. tom wrote: They searched the pilot's house today.


I wonder what showed up

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Postby j.o.e » March 15th, 2014, 2:32 pm

Anybody check Sheron's yard?

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Postby jerad » March 15th, 2014, 2:32 pm

Lmfao

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Postby sonygoup » March 15th, 2014, 2:53 pm

j.o.e wrote:Anybody check Sheron's yard?

Lmaoo nah pass today it not they but i seeing a fresh almera tho:mrgreen::cry:

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Postby tdavies » March 15th, 2014, 3:34 pm

j.o.e wrote:Anybody check Sheron's yard?


Dis man talking sense!!!!

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Postby bluefete » March 15th, 2014, 6:03 pm

A Bit long but very interesting comments at the end.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/03/15 ... ostpopular

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 Deliberately Diverted, Officials Confirm

The Associated Press | Posted: 03/15/2014 12:15 am EDT | Updated: 03/15/2014 4:59 pm EDT


KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -The Malaysian jetliner missing for more than a week was deliberately diverted and continued flying for more than six hours after severing contact with the ground, meaning it could have gone as far northwest as Kazakhstan or into the Indian Ocean's southern reaches, Malaysia's leader said Saturday.

Prime Minister Najib Razak's statement confirmed days of mounting speculation that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 to Beijing was not accidental. It also refocused the investigation into the flight's 12-person crew and 227 passengers, and underlined the complicated task for searchers who already have been scouring vast areas of ocean.

"Clearly the search for MH370 has entered a new phase,'' Najib said at a televised news conference.

Najib stressed that investigators were looking into all possibilities as to why the Boeing 777 deviated so drastically from its original flight path, saying authorities could not confirm whether it was a hijacking. Earlier Saturday, a Malaysian official said the plane had been hijacked, though he added that no motive had been established and no demands had been made known.

"In view of this latest development, the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board,'' Najib told reporters, reading from a written statement but not taking any questions.

Police on Saturday went to the Kuala Lumpur homes of both the pilot and co-pilot of the missing plane, according to a guard and several local reporters. Authorities have said they will investigate the pilots as part of their probe, but have released no information about how they are progressing.

Experts have previously said that whoever disabled the plane's communication systems and then flew the jet must have had a high degree of technical knowledge and flying experience. One possibility they have raised was that one of the pilots wanted to commit suicide.

The plane departed for an overnight flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing at 12:40 a.m. on March 8. Its communications with civilian air controllers were severed at about 1:20 a.m., and the jet went missing - heralding one of the most puzzling mysteries in modern aviation history.

China, where the bulk of the passengers were from, expressed irritation over what it described as Malaysia's foot-dragging in releasing information about the search.

Investigators now have a high degree of certainty that one of the plane's communications systems - the Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) - was disabled before the aircraft reached the east coast of Malaysia, Najib said. Shortly afterward, someone on board switched off the aircraft's transponder, which communicates with civilian air traffic controllers.

Najib confirmed that Malaysian air force defence radar picked up traces of the plane turning back westward, crossing over Peninsular Malaysia into the northern stretches of the Strait of Malacca. Authorities previously had said this radar data could not be verified.

"These movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane,'' Najib said.

Although the aircraft was flying virtually blind to air traffic controllers at this point, onboard equipment continued to send "pings'' to satellites.

U.S. aviation safety experts say the shutdown of communications systems makes it clear the missing Malaysia Airlines jet was taken over by someone who knew how the plane worked.

To turn off the transponder, someone in the cockpit would have to turn a knob with multiple selections to the "off'' position while pressing down at the same time, said John Goglia, a former member of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. That's something a pilot would know, but it could also be learned by someone who researched the plane on the Internet, he said.

The Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) has two aspects, Goglia said. The information part of the system was shut down, but not the transmission part. In most planes, the information section can be shut down by hitting cockpit switches in sequence in order to get to a computer screen where an option must be selected using a keypad, said Goglia, an expert on aircraft maintenance.

That's also something a pilot would know how to do, but that could also be discovered through research, he said.

But to turn off the other transmission portion of the ACARS, it would be necessary to go to an electronics bay beneath the cockpit. That's something a pilot wouldn't normally know how to do, Goglia said. The Malaysia plane's ACARS transmitter continued to send out blips that were recorded by satellite once an hour for four to five hours after the transponder was turned off. The blips don't contain any messages or data, but the satellite can tell in a very broad way what region the blips are coming from.

Malaysia's prime minister said the last confirmed signal between the plane and a satellite came at 8:11 a.m. - 7 hours and 31 minutes after takeoff. This was more than five hours later than the previous time given by Malaysian authorities as the possible last contact.

Airline officials have said the plane had enough fuel to fly for up to about eight hours.

"The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact,'' Najib said.

He said authorities had determined that the plane's last communication with a satellite was in one of two possible arcs, or "corridors'' - a northern one from northern Thailand through to the border of the Central Asian countries Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, and a southern one from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean.

The northern route might theoretically have taken the plane through China, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan _ which hosts U.S. military bases - and Central Asia, and it is unclear how it might have gone undetected. The region is also home to extremist Islamist groups, unstable governments and remote, sparsely populated areas.

Flying south would have put the plane over the Indian Ocean, with an average depth of 3,890 metres (12,762 feet) and thousands of kilometres (miles) from the nearest land mass.

Britain-based aviation security consultant Chris Yates thought it was highly unlikely the plane would have taken the northern route across land in Asia.

"In theory, any country that sees a strange blip is going to get fighter planes up to have a look,'' he said. "And if those fighter planes can't make head or tail of what it is, they will shoot it down.''

Najib said search efforts in the South China Sea, where the plane first lost contact, had ended.

Indian officials said navy ships supported by long-range surveillance planes and helicopters scoured Andaman Sea islands for a third day Saturday without any success in finding evidence of the missing jet.

Two-thirds of the plane's passengers were Chinese, and China's government has been under pressure to give relatives firm news of the aircraft's fate.

In a stinging commentary on Saturday, the Chinese government's Xinhua News Agency said the Malaysian information was "painfully belated,'' resulting in wasted efforts and straining the nerves of relatives.

"Given today's technology, the delay smacks of either dereliction of duty or reluctance to share information in a full and timely manner,'' Xinhua said. "That would be intolerable.''

Najib said he understood the need for families to receive information, but that his government wanted to release only fully corroborated reports. He said his country has been sharing information with international investigators, even when it meant placing "national security concerns'' second to the search. U.S., British and Malaysian air safety investigators have been on the ground in Malaysia to assist with the investigation.

In the Chinese capital, relatives of passengers who have anxiously awaited news at a hotel near Beijing's airport said they felt deceived at not being told earlier about the plane's last signal. "We are going through a roller coaster, and we feel helpless and powerless,'' said a woman, who declined to give her name.

At least one of the relatives saw a glimmer of hope in word that the plane's disappearance was a deliberate act, rather than a crash. "It's very good,'' said a woman, who gave only her surname, Wen.

Malaysian police have already said they are looking at the psychological state, family life and connections of pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, and co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27. Both have been described as respectable, community-minded men.

Zaharie joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981 and had more than 18,000 hours of flying experience. His Facebook page showed an aviation enthusiast who flew remote-controlled aircraft, posting pictures of his collection, which included a lightweight twin-engine helicopter and an amphibious aircraft.

Fariq was contemplating marriage after having just graduated to the cockpit of a Boeing 777. He has drawn scrutiny after the revelation that in 2011, he and another pilot invited two women aboard their aircraft to sit in the cockpit for a flight from Phuket, Thailand, to Kuala Lumpur.

Fourteen countries are involved in the search for the plane, using 43 ships and 58 aircraft.

A U.S. P-8A Poseidon, the most advanced long-range anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare aircraft in the world, was to arrive over the weekend and sweep parts of the Indian Ocean, the U.S. Defence Department said in a statement.

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Associated Press writers Chris Brummitt and Jim Gomez contributed to this report from Kuala Lumpur. AP writer Didi Tang, video producer Aritz Parra and news assistant Henry Hou contributed from Beijing. AP writer Joan Lowy contributed from Washington.

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NYT: Authorities Possibly Looking At Engineer On Board

The Times reports:

In combing for people on board the plane with high-level aviation experience, the authorities may also be looking at an aviation engineer who was among the passengers. The New Straits Times, a newspaper published in Malaysia, interviewed a man who said his son was an aircraft engineer and had been heading to China to work on Malaysia Airlines’ planes. A company spokeswoman, however, said early Sunday that the passenger was an employee of a private-jet firm, not Malaysia Airlines.

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5:36 PM – Today
CNN: Pilot Still Talking After Transponder Shut Off

The last voice communication from the cockpit a week ago were these words: "All right, good night." They were uttered at the Vietnam air traffic control border, after ACARS and the transponder were shut off. That suggests the incident on the plane began sooner than initially thought.

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3:57 PM – Today
ABC News: Plane Made 'Tactical Maneuvers' To Evade Radar

The missing plane performed "tactical evasion maneuvers" after it vanished from radar screens, two anonymous law enforcement officials told ABC News, indicating that the person in control of the plane at that point had a high level of expertise:

The officials briefed on the situation said that the maneuvers appeared to be done to evade radar, and U.S. authorities believe only a person with extensive flight or engineering experience could have executed them.

After the plane’s transponder - which reports the plane’s location and altitude - was turned off about 1:20 a.m. last Saturday, the plane was picked up by military radar as it turned back towards Malaysia and passed above Peninsular Malaysia before heading into the Strait of Malacca.

After a week of scrutinizing passengers and the crew, one of the officials said there were no indications anyone besides the pilots had the ability to perform the complicated maneuvers done by the plane. Furthermore, officials said they have found no link between the passengers and known terrorist groups and that the plane could have been flown into a densely populated area if the incident was related to terrorism - but it wasn't. There is also the possibility that the pilots could have been coerced or made to redirect the plane by force.

Could The Passengers Be Alive?

Slate thinks so.

When the flight first disappeared from air traffic controllers’ radar a week ago, the default assumption was that the plane had crashed. Now it seems unlikely that a plot as ingeniously planned and carefully executed as this one would not also have included plans for safe arrival at some ultimate destination.

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10:54 AM – Today
Scrutiny On Flight's Pilot

From Reuters:

...investigators have increasing focused on the possibility that it was flown off-course by the pilot or co-pilot, or someone else on board with detailed knowledge of how to fly and navigate a large commercial aircraft.

Police officers arrived at the home of the captain, 53-year-old Zaharie Ahmad Shah, on Saturday afternoon. A senior police official told Reuters they had gone to take evidence that could help with the investigation.

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6:59 AM – Today
Flight Path Options Scrutinized

The New York Times spoke to Flightradar24 co-founder Mikael Robertsson, who explained the location options:

The possible northern corridor of the missing flight described by Mr. Najib bristles with military radar, making it more likely that the plane either went south or, if it did fly north, did not make it far, Mr. Robertsson said.

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Search Operations Ending In South China Sea

Malaysia's prime minister announced that search operations will be ending in the South China Sea. More here.
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Aviation Authorities Consider 2 Locations

Malaysia Prime Minister Najib Razak said that aviation authorities now believe the plane’s last communication with the satellite was either in "a northern corridor stretching approximately from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, or a southern corridor stretching approximately from Indonesia to the southern Indian ocean."

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Investigation Is Entering A 'New Phase'

Malaysia's Prime Minister said that the investigation is "entering a new phase," with search operations ending in South China Sea.

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Malaysia PM: 'A Situation Without Precedent'

Malaysia's Prime Minister also said during the press statement that that this has been "a situation without precedent," 14 countries have been involved in the search, and "I have been appraised on the ongoing operation around the clock."

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Postby bluefete » March 15th, 2014, 6:36 pm

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Pilots' homes searched as investigators say missing Malaysia Airlines plane was 'deliberately diverted'

Mar 15, 2014 21:30
By Jessica Best, Steve Robson



Officials have started looking into the lives of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah and co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid in the hope of finding further clues


After the aircraft's initial disappearance a week ago, U.S. officials said their satellites had detected no signs of a mid-air explosion. It is unclear if such systems would have detected a crash landing in the southern Indian Ocean.

On India's Andaman Islands, a defence official told reporters he saw nothing unusual or out of place in the lack of permanent radar coverage. The threat in the area, he said, was much lower than on India's border with Pakistan where sophisticated radars are manned and online continuously.

At night in particular, he said, "nothing much happens".

"We have our radars, we use them, we train with them, but it's not a place where we have (much) to watch out for," he said. "My take is that this is a pretty peaceful place."
8:55 pm

While Malaysian military radar does appear to have detected the aircraft, there appear to have been no attempts to challenge it - or, indeed, any realisation anything was amiss.

That apparent oversight, current and former officials and analysts say, is surprising. But the incident, they say, points to the relatively large gaps in global air surveillance and the limits of some military radar systems.

"It's hard to tell exactly why they did not notice it," says Elizabeth Quintana, senior research fellow for air power at the Royal United Services Institute in London. "It may have been that the aircraft was flying at low level or that the military operators were looking for other threats such as fast jets and felt that airliners were someone else's problem."
7:57 pm

Whatever truly happened to missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, its apparently unchallenged wanderings through Asian skies point to major gaps in regional - and perhaps wider - air defences.

More than a decade after al Qaeda hijackers turned airliners into weapons on September 11, 2001, a large commercial aircraft completely devoid of stealth features appeared to vanish with relative ease.

On Saturday, Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak said authorities now believed the Boeing 777 flew for nearly seven hours after disappearing early on March 8.

Either its crew or someone else on the plane disabled the on-board transponder civilian air traffic radar used to track it, investigators believe.

It appears to have first flown back across the South China Sea - an area of considerable geopolitical tension and military activity - before overflying northern Malaysia and then heading out towards India without any alarm being raised.

The reality, analysts and officials say, is that much of the airspace over water - and in many cases over land - lacks sophisticated or properly monitored radar coverage.

Analysts say the gaps in Southeast Asia's air defences are likely to be mirrored in other parts of the developing world, and may be much greater in areas with considerably lower geopolitical tensions.

"Several nations will be embarrassed by how easy it is to trespass their airspace," said Air Vice Marshal Michael Harwood, a retired British Royal Air Force pilot and ex-defence attache to Washington DC.

"Too many movies and Predator (unmanned military drone) feeds from Afghanistan have suckered people into thinking we know everything and see everything. You get what you pay for. And the world, by and large, does not pay."
7:26 pm

UK-based satellite operator, Inmarsat, whose technology has helped to identify possible routes taken by the plane, confirmed that it is working with the UK authorities in the search.

"Inmarsat has been appointed as a technical adviser to the UK Air Accident Investigation Branch on Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 so that we may fully support the Malaysia investigation," the company said in statement.
6:47 pm

It emerged in reports overnight that Captain Shah had his own flight simulator set up in his home.

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His Facebook profile also indicated he liked flying model planes and he also had a YouTube channel offering advice on household problems.
6:06 pm

BREAKING

Reports coming out of China that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's wife and three children had moved out of the family home the day before flight MH370 disappeared.


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5:54 pm

The focus of the investigation now inevitably turn to the crew and passengers.

This is Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah in a picture from his Facebook profile.

Police have searched his home today to look for any information that might help.
5:32 pm

T­he New York Times is reporting that radar signals ­recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the plane climbing to 45,000 feet and making a sharp turn to the right not long after it disappeared from ­civilian radar.

That is above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777-200.

The information adds to the increasing evidence pointing to a deliberate diversion by an experienced pilot.
5:18 pm

Here's another interesting graphic from the Wall Street Journal explaining how a passenger jet's black box works.

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4:59 pm

The Malaysian authorities revealed today that last satellite communication from flight MH370 was at 8.11am Malaysian time.

This is way past the time the flight was due to land in Beijing.

The two 'corridors' investigators believe it could have flown, are either north towards the Kazakhstan-Turkmenistan border, or south towards Indonesia and the Indian Ocean.

If it flew north, at 8.11am, the plane could have been above Thailand, China Myanmar, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan.

However, the Wall Street Journal points out that it is unlikely to have been able to pass through so many countries undetected especially China or India which both have air defence systems.
4:33 pm

Today's announcement has only deepened the mystery aruodn flight MH370.

As Jon says, the story has really made the world look a lot bigger when we're used to it feeling smaller.

3:25 pm

Another reminder here of the new search area being covered by those looking for the MH370.

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Bangladesh is reported to be the latest country to join the search operation, sending two patrol aircraft and two frigates.

A source told news agency Bernama that they would begin searching the in the Bay of Bengal and work with Malaysia to cover the Indian Ocean.

2:31 pm

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Also on board was two-year-old Wang Moheng, who was flying back to Beijing with his parents and grandparents from a family holiday in Malaysia.

The toddler had loved the beach so much, the Wall Street Journal reports, the family had considered staying for longer but decided to fly back as planned.

Dad Wang Rui and mum Jiao Weiwei had met in college, with Mr Wang going on to work for a consultancy firm. Ms Jiao had worked for a number of websites, before giving up work to become a full-time mum.

Facebook Wang Moheng


2:20 pm

There were 227 passengers travelling on board flight MH370 and 12 crew - all of whom are listed in the flight manifest which was published by Malaysia Airlines last week.

It shows that the passengers included five children, all aged between two and four.

Among them was three-year-old Hu Siwan, from Beijing.

The Singapore-based Strait Times reports the youngster is the apple of her parents' eye.

Mum Zhang Na often posted pictures of her daughter with her dad Hu Xiaoning - who was also on the flight - on social media.

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WEIBO Hu Siwan


1:37 pm

A source familiar with official U.S. assessments of electronic signals sent to geostationary satellites said it appeared most likely the plane turned south over the Indian Ocean, where it would presumably have run out of fuel and crashed into the sea.

If so, just finding the plane - let alone recovering the "black box" data and cockpit voice recorders that hold the key to the mystery - would be a huge challenge.

The featureless expanse of the Indian Ocean has an average depth of more than 12,000 feet, or two miles (3.5 km). That’s deeper than the Atlantic, where it took two years to locate wreckage on the seabed from an Air France plane that vanished in 2009 even though floating debris quickly pointed to the crash site.

Any debris would have been widely dispersed by Indian Ocean currents in the week since the plane disappeared.

The other possibility now being explores is that the aircraft continued to fly to the northwest and headed over Indian territory.

The source added that it was believed unlikely the plane flew for any length of time over India because it has strong air defence and radar coverage and that should have allowed authorities there to see the plane and intercept it.
1:34 pm

Several governments are said to be using imagery satellites - platforms that take high definition photos - while data from private sector communications satellites is also being examined in the search for the plane.

China alone says it has deployed 10 satellites.

But Marc Pircher, director of the French space centre in Toulous, said the challenge was still "like finding a needle in a haystack".

"Finding anything rapidly is going to be very difficult," he said. "The area and scale of the task is such that 99 percent of what you are getting are false alarms".

The new search parameters outlined by Prime Minister Najib this morning represent a satellite track, which appears as an arc on a map. The plane did not necessarily follow the corridor, but was at some point along its path at the moment the signal was sent.
1:23 pm

China’s Xinhua state news agency has said in a commentary that the Malaysian Prime Minister’s disclosure today of new details about MH370's disappearance was "painfully belated".

It said: "And due to the absence - or at least lack - of timely authoritative information, massive efforts have been squandered, and numerous rumours have been spawned, repeatedly racking the nerves of the awaiting families."

Elsewhere, Singapore have announced that they too are calling off their search operation in the South China Sea, as efforts focus on the Indian Ocean.

The Singapore Armed Forces will carry on supporting search teams in the Malacca Strait with a patrol aircraft, the The Straits Times said.
1:14 pm

CNN reports police have just left the home of the MH370 co-pilot carrying small bags.


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Doomed airliner pilot was political fanatic: Hours before taking control of flight MH370 he attended trial of jailed opposition leader as FBI reveal passengers could be at a secret location



By Simon Parry IN KUALA LUMPUR

PUBLISHED: 22:08 GMT, 15 March 2014 | UPDATED: 23:26 GMT, 15 March 2014



Police are investigating the possibility that the pilot of missing Flight MH370 hijacked his own aircraft in a bizarre political protest.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim. And hours before the doomed flight left Kuala Lumpur it is understood 53-year-old Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years.

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Campaigners say the politician, the key challenger to Malaysia’s ruling party, was the victim of a long-running smear campaign and had faced trumped-up charges.

Police sources have confirmed that Shah was a vocal political activist – and fear that the court decision left him profoundly upset. It was against this background that, seven hours later, he took control of a Boeing 777-200 bound for Beijing and carrying 238 passengers and crew.

Timeline: The above graphic shows how the situation may have developed

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Sudden ascent and dive points to cockpit takeover

Yesterday, Malaysian police searched his house in the upmarket Kuala Lumpur suburb of Shah Alam, where he had installed a home-made flight simulator. But this newspaper can reveal that investigators had already spent much of last week examining two laptops removed from Shah’s home. One is believed to contain data from the simulator

Confirming rising fears, Malaysia’s prime minister Najib Razak announced yesterday that MH370 was deliberately steered off course after its communication system was switched off. He said it headed west over the Malaysian seaboard and could have flown for another seven hours on its fuel reserves.

It is not yet clear where the plane was taken, however Mr Razak said the most recent satellite data suggests the plane could have been making for one of two possible flight corridors. The search, involving 43 ships and 58 aircraft from 15 countries, switched from the South China Sea to the Bay of Bengal in the Indian Ocean.

US investigators say faint ‘pings’ were being transmitted for several hours after the flight lost contact with the ground.

Meanwhile, military radar showed the jet climbed to 45,000ft – above its service limit – which could have been a deliberate attempt to knock out the passengers and crew.


Anwar Ibrahim is a broadly popular democracy icon and former deputy prime minister whose prosecution on a charge of sodomy is seen by many Malaysians as political persecution.

The raids on Captain Shah’s home appeared stage-managed as a display of intent after the Prime Minister said the focus of the investigation was now on ‘crew and passengers’ as a result of the latest leads.

But investigators have told the Mail on Sunday inquiries into the background of the pilot actually began days earlier.

Malaysian police, helped by FBI agents from the US, are looking into the political and religious backgrounds of both Zaharie and his co-pilot. Zaharie’s home was sealed off yesterday as police spent an hour inside.

However, a senior investigation source said two laptops were taken from the property in low-key visits by police early last week despite a series of denials by officials that his home had been searched or raided.

One laptop taken away is thought to contain data from the flight simulator while a second contained little information. Zaharie’s personal laptop was not found, and is thought to have been with him in the cockpit of the plane, the source said.

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Investigation: Pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, left, was a political activist who attended a tense trial on the day of the flight, investigators believe. He was flying service MH370 alongside Fariq Abdul Hamid, right, from whom investigators have been keen to deflect suspicion

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Jailed: Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim leaving court in Putrajaya on March 7

Zaharie’s co-workers have told investigators the veteran pilot was a social activist who was vocal and fervent in his support of Ibrahim.

‘Colleagues made it clear to us that he was someone who held strong political beliefs and was strident in his support for Anwar Ibrahim,’ another investigation source said. ‘We were told by one colleague he was obsessed with politics.’

Anwar Ibrahim is a broadly popular democracy icon and former deputy prime minister whose prosecution on a charge of sodomy is seen by many Malaysians as political persecution.

Campaigners say the politician, the key challenger to Malaysia’s ruling party, was the victim of a long-running smear campaign and had faced trumped-up charges.

Captain Shah, who is thought to have attended the trial in Putrajaya hours before flying, is thought to be incensed by the verdict.

Co-workers have told investigators the veteran pilot was a social activist who was vocal and fervent in his support of Ibrahim.

Investigators said: ‘We are looking into the theory that Zaharie’s political beliefs may be a factor. There are huge sensitivities surrounding this but we cannot afford not to pursue any angle brought to our attention.’

In their interviews, colleagues said Zaharie told them he planned to attend the court case involving Anwar on March 7, just hours before the Beijing flight, but investigators had not yet been able to confirm if he was among the crowd of Anwar supporters at court.

Zaharie is believed to be separated or divorced from his wife although they share the same house, close to Kuala Lumpur’s international airport. They have three children, but no family members were at home yesterday: only the maid has remained there.

In the days after Flight MH370 disappeared, Zaharie was affectionately described as a good neighbour and an eccentric ‘geek’ who had a flight simulator at home simply because he loved his work so much.

Malaysian officials initially appeared keen not to direct any suspicion towards Zaharie or his co-pilot, 27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid, who was last week revealed to have invited two women passengers into the cockpit and smoked on an earlier flight to Phuket.

But evidence of the way the plane’s transponder and communication systems were disabled and the way the plane was expertly flown over the Indian Ocean apparently using navigational waypoints meant only a skilled aviator could have been at the controls. Investigators were also baffled by why, if hijackers took over the plane, there was no Mayday call or signal from the two pilots to say the cockpit had been breached.

At yesterday’s press conference, the suspicion over the pilot’s involvement mounted as prime minister Najib Razak said that investigators had found ‘deliberate action’ on board the plane resulted in it changing course and losing contact with ground crews.

As a result of the new information, Malaysian authorities had ‘refocused their investigation on crew and passengers aboard’, he said. Police sealed off the area surrounding Zaharie’s home and searched the house shortly after the press conference.

Mr Razak said the new satellite evidence shows ‘with a high degree of certainty’ that the one of the jet’s communications devices – the Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System was disabled just before it had reached the east coast of Malaysia. ACARS is a service that allows computers aboard the plane to relay in-flight information about the health of its systems back to the ground.

Shortly afterwards, near the cross-over point between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic controllers, the plane’s transponder, which emits an identifying signal, was switched off or, less likely, failed.

According to a military radar, the aircraft then turned and flew back over Malaysia before heading in a north-west direction.

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Search: Investigators from countries around the world have been scouring the oceans

A satellite was able to pick up a ‘ping’ from the plane until 08:11 local time, more than seven hours after it lost radar contact, although it was unable to give a precise location. Mr Razak went on to say that based on this new data, investigators ‘have determined the plane’s last communication with a satellite was in one of two possible corridors – north from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan through to northern Thailand, and south from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean.

If as suspected the plane was diverted into the Indian Ocean, the task of the search teams becomes more difficult, as there are hundreds of uninhabited islands and the water reaches depths of around 23,000ft.

Countries in the plane’s potential flightpath have now joined a huge effort to locate the missing passengers, but China described the revelation as ‘painfully belated’. And FBI investigators say the disappearance of MH370 may have been ‘an act of piracy’ and that the possibility that its hundreds of passengers are being held at an unknown location has not been ruled out.

Meanwhile, leading aviation lawyer James Healy–Pratt, who is helping relatives, said Malaysian Airlines had declined to buy Boeing’s Airplane Health Management system, which monitors systems in real time and could have alerted it to any potential problems, rather than having to recover a black box.

‘If the transponder was manually disabled then one can only hope that the black boxes were not also manually disabled,’ he said. ‘Otherwise, the truth will never be known.’

The revelations about Zaharie’s political affiliations are highly sensitive in a country where political dirty tricks are widespread.

One of the investigation sources said: ‘We are looking into the theory that Zaharie’s political beliefs may be a factor. There are huge sensitivities surrounding this but we cannot afford not to pursue any angle brought to our attention.’

Separately, a police source told the Mail on Sunday: ‘I can confirm our investigations include the political and religious leanings of both pilots.’

Zaharie joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981. He became a captain about ten years later and has clocked up 18,360 hours of flying experience.

Additional reporting: Ian Gallagher


FROM TERRORISTS TO TINTIN... THE WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACIES THEORIES

The internet has been abuzz with conspiracy theories about flight MH370’s disappearance, from terrorists to Tintin, some vaguely plausible, others simply ridiculous...

THE PLAUSIBLE

Flying bomb: According to this theory, the plane has been taken to Vietnam, where it is waiting to be used as a weapon in a 9/11 style attack.
Passengers alive: Because some relatives of passengers have heard ringing tones on their loved ones’ mobiles, rather than being put straight through to voicemail, they believe it is evidence they were still alive. In fact, not all such calls do go straight to voicemail, especially if the battery is also destroyed.

THE LUDICROUS

Alien involvement: Cyber posters looking on flight mapping website Flightradar24 spotted one object (identified as a Korean airliner) which appears to streak across the screen at an incredible speed around the time of MH370’s disappearance. A glitch on the website, said Flightradar.
Silicon connection: With an IBM executive and 20 members of a Texan IT company aboard, some have concluded a Chinese kidnap plot is afoot, with a transfer on to a ‘black site’ for interrogation.

...AND NOT FORGETTING THE HERGE HYPOTHESIS!

Tintin connection: In his comic book Flight 714, published in 1968, Belgian cartoonist Hergé penned a plot which resembles some aspects of the Malaysian mystery.

In the plot, set in the Far East, Tintin, Captain Haddock and Professor Calculus are offered a lift in a millionaire’s private jet. As event unfold, the aircraft is hijacked by the pilots and brought to a deserted volcanic island; the jet manages to make a rough landing on a makeshift roll-out runway; and gunmen surround the plane and Tintin’s dog Snowy makes a run for it.

After several close shaves – and even a meeting with aliens – the friends finally make it safely on to Flight 714 and to their original destination, Sydney.


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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby desifemlove » March 15th, 2014, 9:39 pm

hmm..

Heard a theory that they testing some advanced cloaking device.

Could be somebody removed the transponder or all tracking equipment, downed the plane in som Indochinese forest, and it ent able to be tracked.

Kind ah weird though...

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby Syberfraggle » March 15th, 2014, 10:22 pm

Co pilot have a nice R-34 in he garage

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Postby j.o.e » March 15th, 2014, 10:24 pm

Syberfraggle wrote:Co pilot have a nice R-34 in he garage

Yea bai thought was me alone spot it.

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Postby Racegod » March 16th, 2014, 10:33 am

http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/unidentified-plane-is-mh370-1.515255

CONFIRMED: Last communication between aircraft and satellite at 8.11am, 7 hours after take-off

SEPANG: THE search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 will now concentrate on two possible areas to the west of Peninsular Malaysia, following confirmation yesterday that the aircraft had made a turn in that direction after it went off radar.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak yesterday said the aircraft was now believed to be either in a "northern corridor", extending from Thailand to as far as Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan, or a "southern corridor", extending from Indonesia to the southern part of the Indian Ocean.

This follows confirmation that the unidentified aircraft, which made an air turnback last Saturday, was indeed MH370.

Speaking to a room packed with journalists from around the world, Najib said Malaysian investigators and their international partners had, after several days of investigation, concurred regarding the identity of the aircraft.

"Early this morning, I was briefed by the investigation team, which includes the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration of the United States), NTSB (the US National Transportation Safety Board), the AAIB (United Kingdom's Air Accident Investigation Branch), the Malaysian authorities and the acting minister of transport, on new information that sheds further light on what happened to MH370.

"Based on new satellite information, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was disabled just before the aircraft reached the east coast of Peninsular Malaysia. Shortly afterwards, near the border between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic control, the aircraft's transponder was switched off."

Najib said the aircraft then flew westwards across the peninsula before turning northwest.

"Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane.

"Today, based on raw satellite data that was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight MH370. After much forensic work and deliberation, the FAA, NTSB, AAIB and Malaysian authorities, working separately on the same data, concur."

Najib said the new data pointed to the last confirmed communication between the aircraft and satellite being at 8.11am Malaysian time, more than seven hours after it had taken off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

"The investigation team is making further calculations, which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact. This will help us to refine the search.

"Due to the type of satellite data, we are unable to confirm the precise location of the plane when it last made contact with the satellite.

"However, based on this new data, the aviation authorities of Malaysia and their international counterparts have determined that the plane's last communication with the satellite was in one of two possible corridors: a northern corridor, stretching approximately from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, or a southern corridor, stretching approximately from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean. The investigation team is working to further refine the information."

Najib said in view of the latest development, Malaysian authorities had refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board MH370.

"Despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear: we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate from its original flight path."

Najib's announcement confirmed the New Straits Times report yesterday, which quoted sources stating that the unidentified aircraft was MH370 and that it continued squawking its IDENT number after making the turn.

Acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein had not ruled out hijacking in a press conference on Friday.

However, the use of the words "deliberate action" may have alluded to the possibility.

Najib said because of the new information, search and rescue operations in the South China Sea had been halted and the authorities were reassessing the redeployment of assets.

"We are working with the relevant countries to request all information relevant to the search, including radar data. As the two new corridors involve many countries, the relevant foreign embassies have been invited to a briefing on the new information today (yesterday) by the Malaysian Foreign Ministry and technical experts."

Najib ended the statement by saying he hoped the new information brought investigators and searchers a step closer to finding the aircraft.

He did not take any questions.

Meanwhile, MAS, in a statement, remained committed to sharing confirmed information with family members and the public in an open and transparent manner.

However, MAS said given the nature of the situation, the importance of validating information before it was released to the public was paramount.

"MAS has shared all available information with the relevant authorities since we learned that the aircraft had disappeared. This includes the first indications MH370 might have remained airborne for several hours after contact was lost."


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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby toyota2nr » March 17th, 2014, 12:36 am

j.o.e wrote:
Syberfraggle wrote:Co pilot have a nice R-34 in he garage

Yea bai thought was me alone spot it.


That Was on for barely a second, allyuh eyesight real good.

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Postby Dizzy28 » March 17th, 2014, 9:24 am

This whole thing has gone on for so long with so much different stories and changes. Makes you wonder if it is 2014.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby Dizzy28 » March 17th, 2014, 10:55 am



Mind facking blown!!!

But the speculation of thiefing the plane to be used as a bomb. There must be cheaper and more easy ways to do that than steal a 777 with over 150 ppl on it.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby cornfused » March 17th, 2014, 11:03 am

Some good information in this last link .

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby Michael Knight... » March 17th, 2014, 11:36 am

Hiding in the shadow of another plane to land somewhere. Well if this theory is on point, it means that the "terrorists" have some other plan for the aircraft....but what about the passengers then?

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