*** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

[zoom rader]

Like Mickela actually going to do it

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1150507516647139

As long as she takes a seat away from PNM.


Trinidad needs independents

[paid_influencer]

Like Mickela actually going to do it

She have to take the next step and register as a candidate.

My feeling is she loves that 'the next prime minister' line a little too much. If she runs and loses her deposit, that line 'next prime minister' line going to go from a bless up for her to a mocking. And I don't know if she can handle that kind of blow to her self image.

The day she registers with the EBC, I will transfer you the epips.

[paid_influencer]

also she has yet to post a single policy. The only thing I like more than political bacchanal is policy documents

[The_Honourable]

Interesting take i saw on facebook

"Dr. Rowley's decision to step down before the next election is arguably one of the most brilliant political moves ever made by a sitting Prime Minister. By allowing a new leader to emerge within the People's National Movement (PNM), Rowley effectively positions the party to enter the next general election unburdened by the challenges and controversies of the past decade. This strategic timing ensures that the PNM can present a fresh face to the electorate, distancing itself from any lingering negativity associated with Rowley's tenure.

Moreover, Rowley has successfully managed a diverse team of rivals, which means the PNM has a wealth of capable successors ready to step up. Potential candidates like Young, Foster, Faris, Beckles, and even Robinson Regis could all bring new energy and vision to the party, making the transition seamless and appealing to voters.

In contrast, this move will further emphasize the stagnation of the United National Congress (UNC), led by an aging Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who struggles with her health and public speaking. The UNC's current state is a stark reminder of its decline, especially after Kamla's purging of credible voices from the party, replacing them with less competent figures like Ratiram, Padarath, and Ameen.

This has left the UNC looking increasingly weak and dysfunctional, making Rowley’s departure all the more impactful as it highlights the contrasting vitality of the PNM against the backdrop of the UNC's stagnation.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KLUkbLrgdMjEL4aC/

[wing]

Interesting take i saw on facebook

"Dr. Rowley's decision to step down before the next election is arguably one of the most brilliant political moves ever made by a sitting Prime Minister. By allowing a new leader to emerge within the People's National Movement (PNM), Rowley effectively positions the party to enter the next general election unburdened by the challenges and controversies of the past decade. This strategic timing ensures that the PNM can present a fresh face to the electorate, distancing itself from any lingering negativity associated with Rowley's tenure.

Moreover, Rowley has successfully managed a diverse team of rivals, which means the PNM has a wealth of capable successors ready to step up. Potential candidates like Young, Foster, Faris, Beckles, and even Robinson Regis could all bring new energy and vision to the party, making the transition seamless and appealing to voters.

In contrast, this move will further emphasize the stagnation of the United National Congress (UNC), led by an aging Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who struggles with her health and public speaking. The UNC's current state is a stark reminder of its decline, especially after Kamla's purging of credible voices from the party, replacing them with less competent figures like Ratiram, Padarath, and Ameen.

This has left the UNC looking increasingly weak and dysfunctional, making Rowley’s departure all the more impactful as it highlights the contrasting vitality of the PNM against the backdrop of the UNC's stagnation.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KLUkbLrgdMjEL4aC/

The author of the FB post and even you will be labeled as a PNM (insert insult) by the UNC mob on this site. This is basically what the disenchanted UNC supporters and undecided voters are looking at and realize that the PNM is practically giving away the election, but the alternative is so disliked and tainted.

[j.o.e]

Interesting take i saw on facebook

"Dr. Rowley's decision to step down before the next election is arguably one of the most brilliant political moves ever made by a sitting Prime Minister. By allowing a new leader to emerge within the People's National Movement (PNM), Rowley effectively positions the party to enter the next general election unburdened by the challenges and controversies of the past decade. This strategic timing ensures that the PNM can present a fresh face to the electorate, distancing itself from any lingering negativity associated with Rowley's tenure.

Moreover, Rowley has successfully managed a diverse team of rivals, which means the PNM has a wealth of capable successors ready to step up. Potential candidates like Young, Foster, Faris, Beckles, and even Robinson Regis could all bring new energy and vision to the party, making the transition seamless and appealing to voters.

In contrast, this move will further emphasize the stagnation of the United National Congress (UNC), led by an aging Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who struggles with her health and public speaking. The UNC's current state is a stark reminder of its decline, especially after Kamla's purging of credible voices from the party, replacing them with less competent figures like Ratiram, Padarath, and Ameen.

This has left the UNC looking increasingly weak and dysfunctional, making Rowley’s departure all the more impactful as it highlights the contrasting vitality of the PNM against the backdrop of the UNC's stagnation.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KLUkbLrgdMjEL4aC/

I spoke about this months ago on one of the threads as being the way to ensure victory. Well played

[paid_influencer]

that facebook post is spin. Only an absolutely deranged mind would think replacing Rowley with Robinson-Regis would "ensure victory." Be real. be real forking real. I know some 'mites grieving for the state of their party but be real.

The fact of the matter is with about 8 months to go, the PNM is deeply unpopular and has no clear leader. The party is at its lowest point since Chambers.

Ah lie? Tell meh if that is a lie.

The removal of Rowley does presents an opportunity for the party to reinvent itself. But that will take time. It will take a new and popular leader. Simply swapping Harris for Biden will not make this administration popular. People will not only remember, but people have a hatred in them for what has happened over the past 10 years. They going to take it out on somebody, be it Rowley or Camille or Foster or Young. Somebody has to pay the price. It is far too gone in the current cycle to undo that damage.

The only leader that can rebuild that party is Penelope. She can remodel the party as Mia Mottley did. She is an administration outsider. She is popular and charismatic. But she will need time and she will need a fresh slate of faces that she has chosen. Not Rowley's hand-me-downs.

FWIW, I made a bet Kamla going to win and would ban myself for 6 months if she lost. That bet was made with Rowley as the opponent. I will still keep the bet, but maybe re-evaluate the ban period depending on the candidate for the updated odds-ratio.

[Mmoney607]

that facebook post is spin. Only an absolutely deranged mind would think replacing Rowley with Robinson-Regis would "ensure victory." Be real. be real forking real. I know some 'mites grieving for the state of their party but be real.

The fact of the matter is with about 8 months to go, the PNM is deeply unpopular and has no clear leader. The party is at its lowest point since Chambers.

Ah lie? Tell meh if that is a lie.

The removal of Rowley does presents an opportunity for the party to reinvent itself. But that will take time. It will take a new and popular leader. Simply swapping Harris for Biden will not make this administration popular. People will not only remember, but people have a hatred in them for what has happened over the past 10 years. They going to take it out on somebody, be it Rowley or Camille or Foster or Young. Somebody has to pay the price. It is far too gone in the current cycle to undo that damage.

The only leader that can rebuild that party is Penelope. She can remodel the party as Mia Mottley did. She is an administration outsider. She is popular and charismatic. But she will need time and she will need a fresh slate of faces that she has chosen. Not Rowley's hand-me-downs.

FWIW, I made a bet Kamla going to win and would ban myself for 6 months if she lost. That bet was made with Rowley as the opponent. I will still keep the bet, but maybe re-evaluate the ban period depending on the candidate for the updated odds-ratio.

Perfect analysis. If rowley wear a jockey shorts on his head these men will say it's genius

[wing]

that facebook post is spin. Only an absolutely deranged mind would think replacing Rowley with Robinson-Regis would "ensure victory." Be real. be real forking real. I know some 'mites grieving for the state of their party but be real.

The fact of the matter is with about 8 months to go, the PNM is deeply unpopular and has no clear leader. The party is at its lowest point since Chambers.

Ah lie? Tell meh if that is a lie.

The removal of Rowley does presents an opportunity for the party to reinvent itself. But that will take time. It will take a new and popular leader. Simply swapping Harris for Biden will not make this administration popular. People will not only remember, but people have a hatred in them for what has happened over the past 10 years. They going to take it out on somebody, be it Rowley or Camille or Foster or Young. Somebody has to pay the price. It is far too gone in the current cycle to undo that damage.

The only leader that can rebuild that party is Penelope. She can remodel the party as Mia Mottley did. She is an administration outsider. She is popular and charismatic. But she will need time and she will need a fresh slate of faces that she has chosen. Not Rowley's hand-me-downs.

FWIW, I made a bet Kamla going to win and would ban myself for 6 months if she lost. That bet was made with Rowley as the opponent. I will still keep the bet, but maybe re-evaluate the ban period depending on the candidate for the updated odds-ratio.

Perfect analysis. If rowley wear a jockey shorts on his head these men will say it's genius

Study how your coalition partners suing each other. Not to mention Pantyman Edward Alexander... he pay Mikela yet?

[hover11]

Interesting take i saw on facebook

"Dr. Rowley's decision to step down before the next election is arguably one of the most brilliant political moves ever made by a sitting Prime Minister. By allowing a new leader to emerge within the People's National Movement (PNM), Rowley effectively positions the party to enter the next general election unburdened by the challenges and controversies of the past decade. This strategic timing ensures that the PNM can present a fresh face to the electorate, distancing itself from any lingering negativity associated with Rowley's tenure.

Moreover, Rowley has successfully managed a diverse team of rivals, which means the PNM has a wealth of capable successors ready to step up. Potential candidates like Young, Foster, Faris, Beckles, and even Robinson Regis could all bring new energy and vision to the party, making the transition seamless and appealing to voters.

In contrast, this move will further emphasize the stagnation of the United National Congress (UNC), led by an aging Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who struggles with her health and public speaking. The UNC's current state is a stark reminder of its decline, especially after Kamla's purging of credible voices from the party, replacing them with less competent figures like Ratiram, Padarath, and Ameen.

This has left the UNC looking increasingly weak and dysfunctional, making Rowley’s departure all the more impactful as it highlights the contrasting vitality of the PNM against the backdrop of the UNC's stagnation.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KLUkbLrgdMjEL4aC/

I spoke about this months ago on one of the threads as being the way to ensure victory. Well played

This is why we call you out on being a PNMite...

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[zoom rader]

Interesting take i saw on facebook

"Dr. Rowley's decision to step down before the next election is arguably one of the most brilliant political moves ever made by a sitting Prime Minister. By allowing a new leader to emerge within the People's National Movement (PNM), Rowley effectively positions the party to enter the next general election unburdened by the challenges and controversies of the past decade. This strategic timing ensures that the PNM can present a fresh face to the electorate, distancing itself from any lingering negativity associated with Rowley's tenure.

Moreover, Rowley has successfully managed a diverse team of rivals, which means the PNM has a wealth of capable successors ready to step up. Potential candidates like Young, Foster, Faris, Beckles, and even Robinson Regis could all bring new energy and vision to the party, making the transition seamless and appealing to voters.

In contrast, this move will further emphasize the stagnation of the United National Congress (UNC), led by an aging Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who struggles with her health and public speaking. The UNC's current state is a stark reminder of its decline, especially after Kamla's purging of credible voices from the party, replacing them with less competent figures like Ratiram, Padarath, and Ameen.

This has left the UNC looking increasingly weak and dysfunctional, making Rowley’s departure all the more impactful as it highlights the contrasting vitality of the PNM against the backdrop of the UNC's stagnation.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KLUkbLrgdMjEL4aC/

The author of the FB post and even you will be labeled as a PNM (insert insult) by the UNC mob on this site. This is basically what the disenchanted UNC supporters and undecided voters are looking at and realize that the PNM is practically giving away the election, but the alternative is so disliked and tainted.

This author fails to understand that

PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government

But let them keep focusing on Kamala

[zoom rader]

Interesting take i saw on facebook

"Dr. Rowley's decision to step down before the next election is arguably one of the most brilliant political moves ever made by a sitting Prime Minister. By allowing a new leader to emerge within the People's National Movement (PNM), Rowley effectively positions the party to enter the next general election unburdened by the challenges and controversies of the past decade. This strategic timing ensures that the PNM can present a fresh face to the electorate, distancing itself from any lingering negativity associated with Rowley's tenure.

Moreover, Rowley has successfully managed a diverse team of rivals, which means the PNM has a wealth of capable successors ready to step up. Potential candidates like Young, Foster, Faris, Beckles, and even Robinson Regis could all bring new energy and vision to the party, making the transition seamless and appealing to voters.

In contrast, this move will further emphasize the stagnation of the United National Congress (UNC), led by an aging Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who struggles with her health and public speaking. The UNC's current state is a stark reminder of its decline, especially after Kamla's purging of credible voices from the party, replacing them with less competent figures like Ratiram, Padarath, and Ameen.

This has left the UNC looking increasingly weak and dysfunctional, making Rowley’s departure all the more impactful as it highlights the contrasting vitality of the PNM against the backdrop of the UNC's stagnation.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KLUkbLrgdMjEL4aC/

I spoke about this months ago on one of the threads as being the way to ensure victory. Well played

You spoke wrong


PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government

[zoom rader]

that facebook post is spin. Only an absolutely deranged mind would think replacing Rowley with Robinson-Regis would "ensure victory." Be real. be real forking real. I know some 'mites grieving for the state of their party but be real.

The fact of the matter is with about 8 months to go, the PNM is deeply unpopular and has no clear leader. The party is at its lowest point since Chambers.

Ah lie? Tell meh if that is a lie.

The removal of Rowley does presents an opportunity for the party to reinvent itself. But that will take time. It will take a new and popular leader. Simply swapping Harris for Biden will not make this administration popular. People will not only remember, but people have a hatred in them for what has happened over the past 10 years. They going to take it out on somebody, be it Rowley or Camille or Foster or Young. Somebody has to pay the price. It is far too gone in the current cycle to undo that damage.

The only leader that can rebuild that party is Penelope. She can remodel the party as Mia Mottley did. She is an administration outsider. She is popular and charismatic. But she will need time and she will need a fresh slate of faces that she has chosen. Not Rowley's hand-me-downs.

FWIW, I made a bet Kamla going to win and would ban myself for 6 months if she lost. That bet was made with Rowley as the opponent. I will still keep the bet, but maybe re-evaluate the ban period depending on the candidate for the updated odds-ratio.

Perfect analysis. If rowley wear a jockey shorts on his head these men will say it's genius

Study how your coalition partners suing each other. Not to mention Pantyman Edward Alexander... he pay Mikela yet?

Yeah u study Kamala

Meanwhile, PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government

[wing]

that facebook post is spin. Only an absolutely deranged mind would think replacing Rowley with Robinson-Regis would "ensure victory." Be real. be real forking real. I know some 'mites grieving for the state of their party but be real.

The fact of the matter is with about 8 months to go, the PNM is deeply unpopular and has no clear leader. The party is at its lowest point since Chambers.

Ah lie? Tell meh if that is a lie.

The removal of Rowley does presents an opportunity for the party to reinvent itself. But that will take time. It will take a new and popular leader. Simply swapping Harris for Biden will not make this administration popular. People will not only remember, but people have a hatred in them for what has happened over the past 10 years. They going to take it out on somebody, be it Rowley or Camille or Foster or Young. Somebody has to pay the price. It is far too gone in the current cycle to undo that damage.

The only leader that can rebuild that party is Penelope. She can remodel the party as Mia Mottley did. She is an administration outsider. She is popular and charismatic. But she will need time and she will need a fresh slate of faces that she has chosen. Not Rowley's hand-me-downs.

FWIW, I made a bet Kamla going to win and would ban myself for 6 months if she lost. That bet was made with Rowley as the opponent. I will still keep the bet, but maybe re-evaluate the ban period depending on the candidate for the updated odds-ratio.

Perfect analysis. If rowley wear a jockey shorts on his head these men will say it's genius

Study how your coalition partners suing each other. Not to mention Pantyman Edward Alexander... he pay Mikela yet?

Yeah u study Kamala

Meanwhile, PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government

Election night will be interesting.

[wing]

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/01/04/griffi ... g-history/

Gary hitting hard.

[j.o.e]

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/01/04/griffith-mature-rowley-making-history/

Gary hitting hard.

Tuners here will say Gary is a PNM

[zoom rader]

that facebook post is spin. Only an absolutely deranged mind would think replacing Rowley with Robinson-Regis would "ensure victory." Be real. be real forking real. I know some 'mites grieving for the state of their party but be real.

The fact of the matter is with about 8 months to go, the PNM is deeply unpopular and has no clear leader. The party is at its lowest point since Chambers.

Ah lie? Tell meh if that is a lie.

The removal of Rowley does presents an opportunity for the party to reinvent itself. But that will take time. It will take a new and popular leader. Simply swapping Harris for Biden will not make this administration popular. People will not only remember, but people have a hatred in them for what has happened over the past 10 years. They going to take it out on somebody, be it Rowley or Camille or Foster or Young. Somebody has to pay the price. It is far too gone in the current cycle to undo that damage.

The only leader that can rebuild that party is Penelope. She can remodel the party as Mia Mottley did. She is an administration outsider. She is popular and charismatic. But she will need time and she will need a fresh slate of faces that she has chosen. Not Rowley's hand-me-downs.

FWIW, I made a bet Kamla going to win and would ban myself for 6 months if she lost. That bet was made with Rowley as the opponent. I will still keep the bet, but maybe re-evaluate the ban period depending on the candidate for the updated odds-ratio.

Perfect analysis. If rowley wear a jockey shorts on his head these men will say it's genius

Study how your coalition partners suing each other. Not to mention Pantyman Edward Alexander... he pay Mikela yet?

Yeah u study Kamala

Meanwhile, PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government

Election night will be interesting.

Off course, cause PNM not winning Tobago

[zoom rader]

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/01/04/griffith-mature-rowley-making-history/

Gary hitting hard.

Tuners here will say Gary is a PNM

As long as he take a seat away from PNM

[matr1x]

Gary is the person you will trust the least in the times of disaster

[paid_influencer]

okay I thought about it and I am adjusting my bet:

if kamla loses ro any of these chithounds I will ban myself for the time below:

Penny - 1 month
Stuart Young - 2 months

If she lose to Foster commings, Amery, Faris or Camille or any other minor minion, 1 year and I will go take up yoga or something and seriously consider giving up posting about politics entirely.

Offer not valid if Mariano Browne decides to run. I will never bet against Mariano Browne.

[wing]

okay I thought about it and I am adjusting my bet:

if kamla loses ro any of these chithounds I will ban myself for the time below:

Penny - 1 month
Stuart Young - 2 months

If she lose to Foster commings, Amery, Faris or Camille or any other minor minion, 1 year and I will go take up yoga or something and seriously consider giving up posting about politics entirely.

Offer not valid if Mariano Browne decides to run. I will never bet against Mariano Browne.

Why should anyone care?

[wing]

that facebook post is spin. Only an absolutely deranged mind would think replacing Rowley with Robinson-Regis would "ensure victory." Be real. be real forking real. I know some 'mites grieving for the state of their party but be real.

The fact of the matter is with about 8 months to go, the PNM is deeply unpopular and has no clear leader. The party is at its lowest point since Chambers.

Ah lie? Tell meh if that is a lie.

The removal of Rowley does presents an opportunity for the party to reinvent itself. But that will take time. It will take a new and popular leader. Simply swapping Harris for Biden will not make this administration popular. People will not only remember, but people have a hatred in them for what has happened over the past 10 years. They going to take it out on somebody, be it Rowley or Camille or Foster or Young. Somebody has to pay the price. It is far too gone in the current cycle to undo that damage.

The only leader that can rebuild that party is Penelope. She can remodel the party as Mia Mottley did. She is an administration outsider. She is popular and charismatic. But she will need time and she will need a fresh slate of faces that she has chosen. Not Rowley's hand-me-downs.

FWIW, I made a bet Kamla going to win and would ban myself for 6 months if she lost. That bet was made with Rowley as the opponent. I will still keep the bet, but maybe re-evaluate the ban period depending on the candidate for the updated odds-ratio.

Perfect analysis. If rowley wear a jockey shorts on his head these men will say it's genius

Study how your coalition partners suing each other. Not to mention Pantyman Edward Alexander... he pay Mikela yet?

Yeah u study Kamala

Meanwhile, PNM is not winning Tobago and bago holds the keys to government

Election night will be interesting.

Off course, cause PNM not winning Tobago

Are you saying that whoever wins Tobago will form the next government? With two seats? Or will they join with whoever has at least 20 seats in Trinidad? What will Tobago get in return? Or will Tobago get tossed aside like the TOP, COP, MSJ, NJAC, NTA...?

[paid_influencer]

it kinda interesting seeing the 'mites on here trying all kinda ways to avoid dealing with the reality of their party

i mean look how broken just snap

[The_Honourable]

okay I thought about it and I am adjusting my bet:

if kamla loses ro any of these chithounds I will ban myself for the time below:

Penny - 1 month
Stuart Young - 2 months

If she lose to Foster commings, Amery, Faris or Camille or any other minor minion, 1 year and I will go take up yoga or something and seriously consider giving up posting about politics entirely.

Offer not valid if Mariano Browne decides to run. I will never bet against Mariano Browne.

Nah you making things too complicated. Stick to your original bet (quoted below) which I accepted and you can't go back on.

If pnm wins, 6 months ban. Failure to observe will result in the mods enforcing it.

If pnm wins and before the ban you know you can't make 6 months, KFC for the boys.

Simple as that.

GOOD. I get on the first page. Let me put it here officially.

I, INFLUENCER, HEREBY ISSUE A WAGER TO ANY WILLING

that KAMLA WILL WIN the 2025 GENERAL ELECTION

IF this wager is accepted by an active regular forum participant,
the loser of the wager must BAN HIMSELF OR HERSELF for 6 months

Quote THIS post with "I ACCEPT" and it is ON
i AM SERIOUS LIKE A HEART ATTACK

[mero]

Paid influencer isn't already like 4 ppl on 2nr?

Nobody cares about any of them but that defeating the purpose of proposing a self ban.

[paid_influencer]

Why should anyone care?

I have gone over this before. I believe people on this forum don't have enough accountability for their posts. Fellas does get repeat the same wrong thing for months and months and when that thing is proven wrong for all to see, them fellas does just move like nothing happened and they never say that.

This is an ole talk forum and I understand that, but I want to start a trend of accountability. I stand behind my words and I believe others should too. I, for the past year now, saying Kamla will win, PNM going to lose worse than Chambers did, all kinda thing.

If proven wrong, I believe persons should rightly do the following:

(1) Shut up.
(2) Take time off.
(3) Re-evaluate said views and come up with better ones.

Depending on how wrong the view, the more time off for reflection and re-evaluation is warranted.

So, yes, I agree then. I will accept the 6 months bet as originally promised. But only if Mariano Browne is not running. If Mariano decides to run, I will never bet against him. Jesus know that

[wing]

Just like when their master was serving his one year ban, there was kickstart and a couple others I can't remember atm.

[wing]

Why should anyone care?

I have gone over this before. I believe people on this forum don't have enough accountability for their posts. Fellas does get repeat the same wrong thing for months and months and when that thing is proven wrong for all to see, them fellas does just move like nothing happened and they never say that.

This is an ole talk forum and I understand that, but I want to start a trend of accountability. I stand behind my words and I believe others should too. I, for the past year now, saying Kamla will win, PNM going to lose worse than Chambers did, all kinda thing.

If proven wrong, I believe persons should rightly do the following:

(1) Shut up.
(2) Take time off.
(3) Re-evaluate said views and come up with better ones.

Depending on how wrong the view, the more time off for reflection and re-evaluation is warranted.

So, yes, I agree then. I will accept the 6 months bet as originally promised. But only if Mariano Browne is not running. If Mariano decides to run, I will never bet against him. Jesus know that

If you're looking for transparency and accountability on an anonymous internet forum, then you need some psychological help. If you're so keen, post your full name and pic in the interest of transparency, don't hide behind some alternate account.

[paid_influencer]

I never mentioned transparency. I just stand behind my words. I don't post chit I don't believe for the sake of spin or whatever.

[paid_influencer]

there are the alts:

Hover11, DMan7, st7 and adnj

they will continue to operate in my absence