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Postby carluva » August 30th, 2020, 9:28 pm

I don't think anything wrong with this. After all, it's a deterrent. It's meant to make travelling in numbers in a vehicle difficult and in so doing restricting the possible spread.

Trinis are harden. All the time, those in authority saying to stay home and avoid crowds. But Trinis do the opposite. So now, take a "donkey logic" restriction because after all, most Trinis are donkeys. It is meant to limit you from going out. That is all.

I'm not apologising for the PNM, cause this is not political. It's common sense. Stay home. Reduce how much you go out in numbers. But instead, as our distinguished Prime Minister said, Trinis like to complain and find fault with everything instead of doing the right thing.
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Gladiator wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:PNM donkey logic....that's what it's called
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aaron17 wrote:'National Security Minister Stuart Young: A motorist alone in their vehicle doesn't have to wear a mask while in the vehicle. However, family members traveling in a vehicle or passengers in PH/taxis/maxi taxis MUST wear their masks.'

Just confirming the above statement, if I am in the same household with a family member and I am driving with that person..I have to wear a mask in the vehicle together with the family member? If yes , we should wear masks at home to?


EVERYONE has to wear a mask. Full stop.

The MoNS is suggesting occifers use some discretion for lone drivers. Occifers, as you may have realized, are not bound by discretion and CAN and WILL charge you for any reason they want.

just wear the mask. it not hard.


Me: has intimate relations with wife at home

Me and wife in car: wear a mask before I give you Covid


Seems legit.


Think from the officer's perspective.

If it's a PH car, they are at a lower risk for spreading if everyone is wearing a mask.


Think from a common sense perspective.... just ask both occupants for ID and look at their last names.... how hard is that. So you and yuh wife exchanging bodily fluids 2-3 times a week but have to wear a mask in the car to not share COVID.

You fellas PNM apologists or jus playing dotish!!!


Well said...!!!

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Postby MaxPower » August 30th, 2020, 10:49 pm

The worst thing for Covid 19 in T&T is the Trinidadian mentality.

Did we really expect better? Lmao

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Postby teems1 » August 30th, 2020, 10:58 pm

Gladiator wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:PNM donkey logic....that's what it's called
Strugglerzinc wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
aaron17 wrote:'National Security Minister Stuart Young: A motorist alone in their vehicle doesn't have to wear a mask while in the vehicle. However, family members traveling in a vehicle or passengers in PH/taxis/maxi taxis MUST wear their masks.'

Just confirming the above statement, if I am in the same household with a family member and I am driving with that person..I have to wear a mask in the vehicle together with the family member? If yes , we should wear masks at home to?


EVERYONE has to wear a mask. Full stop.

The MoNS is suggesting occifers use some discretion for lone drivers. Occifers, as you may have realized, are not bound by discretion and CAN and WILL charge you for any reason they want.

just wear the mask. it not hard.


Me: has intimate relations with wife at home

Me and wife in car: wear a mask before I give you Covid


Seems legit.


Think from the officer's perspective.

If it's a PH car, they are at a lower risk for spreading if everyone is wearing a mask.


Think from a common sense perspective.... just ask both occupants for ID and look at their last names.... how hard is that. So you and yuh wife exchanging bodily fluids 2-3 times a week but have to wear a mask in the car to not share COVID.

You fellas PNM apologists or jus playing dotish!!!


So you would rather interact with a police officer, hand him identification etc, than simply wear a mask and remove any doubt. How many ids has this officer touched for the day, how clean is his hand/gloves.

What if your gf/wife left her wallet at home and doesn't have id.

Just wear your mask and remove all issues.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1645 cases, 19 deaths, 962 active, 664 discharged in T&T

Postby Gladiator » August 30th, 2020, 11:26 pm

teems1 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:PNM donkey logic....that's what it's called
Strugglerzinc wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
aaron17 wrote:'National Security Minister Stuart Young: A motorist alone in their vehicle doesn't have to wear a mask while in the vehicle. However, family members traveling in a vehicle or passengers in PH/taxis/maxi taxis MUST wear their masks.'

Just confirming the above statement, if I am in the same household with a family member and I am driving with that person..I have to wear a mask in the vehicle together with the family member? If yes , we should wear masks at home to?


EVERYONE has to wear a mask. Full stop.

The MoNS is suggesting occifers use some discretion for lone drivers. Occifers, as you may have realized, are not bound by discretion and CAN and WILL charge you for any reason they want.

just wear the mask. it not hard.


Me: has intimate relations with wife at home

Me and wife in car: wear a mask before I give you Covid


Seems legit.


Think from the officer's perspective.

If it's a PH car, they are at a lower risk for spreading if everyone is wearing a mask.


Think from a common sense perspective.... just ask both occupants for ID and look at their last names.... how hard is that. So you and yuh wife exchanging bodily fluids 2-3 times a week but have to wear a mask in the car to not share COVID.

You fellas PNM apologists or jus playing dotish!!!


So you would rather interact with a police officer, hand him identification etc, than simply wear a mask and remove any doubt. How many ids has this officer touched for the day, how clean is his hand/gloves.

What if your gf/wife left her wallet at home and doesn't have id.

Just wear your mask and remove all issues.


To me its an overcompensating law that may have more effect to put fear into the public than make them actually do the correct thing. Just like the speed limit law, there was enforcement for the first couple months, now nothing. As soon as people realize nobody checking they would not care.

Without enforcement the law is useless.... and putting a stupid law in place that is almost impossible to enforce is even more stupid. But wait and see TTPS would have roadblock to check for mask for the first couple days just to prove a point.

COVID bring out the best in some countries, made them think creative and use technologies in new and innovative ways. But in typical T&T style.... it bringing out the dotishness in our thinking.

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Postby Numb3r4 » August 30th, 2020, 11:34 pm

In an ideal world we would be using policy to promote good behaviour, not use it to punish bad behaviour.

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Postby 88sins » August 30th, 2020, 11:47 pm

So wait, lemme see if I get this right.
If I and the wife leave the same house together, me driving, we both or one of us have to wear a mask while inside the vehicle with windows up and ac on? So, if that's correct, that means you not allowed to contract covid on the road but is ok to get it at home.
Is that correct? Please somebody tell me that's not correct.

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Postby maj. tom » August 31st, 2020, 12:24 am

There are other reasons why to wear a mask while in the car with someone inside your social bubble.
This virus is more contagious than anyone ever thought.

Since you're outside your house, everytime you go out with your car you increase your risk because you interact with the outside world with an aerosolized virus that can leave residue in many places you're not aware of, from many people who are likely to be asymptomatic carriers. Touch the door handle, the seat, the arm rest, the steering wheel... was it disinfected from the last time you used the car? You used hand sanitizer? You're so sure 1 single virus particle didn't get by that 5-second hand rubbing sequence? Wearing a mask deters you from touching your face, nose and mouth. That alone will decrease the risk by a lot. Interactions can also happen while you're driving. If the police officer taps on your window, scramble to put on a mask first... or you were just wearing it all the time. Minor accident or a flat tire... last thing on your mind is your mask.

Well would it matter because you're living together anyway? Maybe. Because when you reach home and exit the car you can wash your hands with soap properly and get rid of any residue that could make it to your nose and mouth by hand. The mask was preventing that. Again, we're observing how super-contagious this virus is. Every bit of training and good habit helps. The good habit is wearing a mask anytime you leave home. You won't get complacent. You won't touch your nose and your face. You set an example as normal for other people out there who are thinking the same. You're making sure you cannot be careless. This is for you. It's like a drill that your practise all the time. Argue if you want "because that is stupid since we live together." I'm sure there are literally millions of people in the world who so far had such arguments.


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Postby eitech » August 31st, 2020, 12:39 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:Trinis too dotish. They need complete policing. All over central today....have groups of people liming by their cars outside the bars and drinking. Talking and liming next to each other without masks


Last lap before the law come into effect. Yea we so chupid eh

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Postby redmanjp » August 31st, 2020, 1:17 am

eitech wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Trinis too dotish. They need complete policing. All over central today....have groups of people liming by their cars outside the bars and drinking. Talking and liming next to each other without masks


Last lap before the law come into effect. Yea we so chupid eh


if they are outside bars they already breaking the law

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Postby teems1 » August 31st, 2020, 1:17 am

Stop trying to make a complicated situation more complicated with conspiracy theories or by politicising it.

This isn't the first pandemic and it won't be the last.

The fact remains that if wearing a mask reduces the risk of infection by even a small percent it is worth it.

All the world has to do for the next year or so is keep the infection rate as low as possible as to not overwhelm the health sector.

The vaccine is the only way we can think of life post Covid.
Gladiator wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:PNM donkey logic....that's what it's called
Strugglerzinc wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
aaron17 wrote:'National Security Minister Stuart Young: A motorist alone in their vehicle doesn't have to wear a mask while in the vehicle. However, family members traveling in a vehicle or passengers in PH/taxis/maxi taxis MUST wear their masks.'

Just confirming the above statement, if I am in the same household with a family member and I am driving with that person..I have to wear a mask in the vehicle together with the family member? If yes , we should wear masks at home to?


EVERYONE has to wear a mask. Full stop.

The MoNS is suggesting occifers use some discretion for lone drivers. Occifers, as you may have realized, are not bound by discretion and CAN and WILL charge you for any reason they want.

just wear the mask. it not hard.


Me: has intimate relations with wife at home

Me and wife in car: wear a mask before I give you Covid


Seems legit.


Think from the officer's perspective.

If it's a PH car, they are at a lower risk for spreading if everyone is wearing a mask.


Think from a common sense perspective.... just ask both occupants for ID and look at their last names.... how hard is that. So you and yuh wife exchanging bodily fluids 2-3 times a week but have to wear a mask in the car to not share COVID.

You fellas PNM apologists or jus playing dotish!!!


So you would rather interact with a police officer, hand him identification etc, than simply wear a mask and remove any doubt. How many ids has this officer touched for the day, how clean is his hand/gloves.

What if your gf/wife left her wallet at home and doesn't have id.

Just wear your mask and remove all issues.


To me its an overcompensating law that may have more effect to put fear into the public than make them actually do the correct thing. Just like the speed limit law, there was enforcement for the first couple months, now nothing. As soon as people realize nobody checking they would not care.

Without enforcement the law is useless.... and putting a stupid law in place that is almost impossible to enforce is even more stupid. But wait and see TTPS would have roadblock to check for mask for the first couple days just to prove a point.

COVID bring out the best in some countries, made them think creative and use technologies in new and innovative ways. But in typical T&T style.... it bringing out the dotishness in our thinking.

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Postby FrankChag » August 31st, 2020, 2:29 am

pugboy wrote:curve flattening
the lil lockdown wukking
plus masks this week so we good to go



Laisse tomber..... you haven't considered the "wuh they go do.. lock all a we up?? steups.. " factor in the populace...

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Postby Chimera » August 31st, 2020, 6:24 am

What kinda masks allyuh using? The proper n95 or kn95 dont make allyuh sweat like hell?

And then cloth masks basically useless?

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Postby pugboy » August 31st, 2020, 6:47 am

if u traveling taxi amongst strangers might be best to use 95 type mask in taxi

all the 95 masks are daily use disposable like the cheap blue ones
hope ppl know that

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Postby eitech » August 31st, 2020, 7:12 am

pugboy wrote:if u traveling taxi amongst strangers might be best to use 95 type mask in taxi

all the 95 masks are daily use disposable like the cheap blue ones
hope ppl know that


Come na man. Lol is trini. If we hada force allyuh to use mask we hada tell allyuh how to use each type properly. Btw, was the term “mask “ defined? Could i use a jersey?

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Postby adnj » August 31st, 2020, 7:47 am

eitech wrote:
pugboy wrote:if u traveling taxi amongst strangers might be best to use 95 type mask in taxi

all the 95 masks are daily use disposable like the cheap blue ones
hope ppl know that


Come na man. Lol is trini. If we hada force allyuh to use mask we hada tell allyuh how to use each type properly. Btw, was the term “mask “ defined? Could i use a jersey?
Every Act of Parliament contains a definitions section. You can look at the amendment on the Parliament website (which is down atm).
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Postby sMASH » August 31st, 2020, 8:13 am

the new laws being circulated so we can see the black and white? not seeing any release thus yet

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Postby MaxPower » August 31st, 2020, 8:14 am

maj. tom wrote:There are other reasons why to wear a mask while in the car with someone inside your social bubble.
This virus is more contagious than anyone ever thought.

Since you're outside your house, everytime you go out with your car you increase your risk because you interact with the outside world with an aerosolized virus that can leave residue in many places you're not aware of, from many people who are likely to be asymptomatic carriers. Touch the door handle, the seat, the arm rest, the steering wheel... was it disinfected from the last time you used the car? You used hand sanitizer? You're so sure 1 single virus particle didn't get by that 5-second hand rubbing sequence? Wearing a mask deters you from touching your face, nose and mouth. That alone will decrease the risk by a lot. Interactions can also happen while you're driving. If the police officer taps on your window, scramble to put on a mask first... or you were just wearing it all the time. Minor accident or a flat tire... last thing on your mind is your mask.

Well would it matter because you're living together anyway? Maybe. Because when you reach home and exit the car you can wash your hands with soap properly and get rid of any residue that could make it to your nose and mouth by hand. The mask was preventing that. Again, we're observing how super-contagious this virus is. Every bit of training and good habit helps. The good habit is wearing a mask anytime you leave home. You won't get complacent. You won't touch your nose and your face. You set an example as normal for other people out there who are thinking the same. You're making sure you cannot be careless. This is for you. It's like a drill that your practise all the time. Argue if you want "because that is stupid since we live together." I'm sure there are literally millions of people in the world who so far had such arguments.


Wow...

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 31st, 2020, 8:23 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:What kinda masks allyuh using? The proper n95 or kn95 dont make allyuh sweat like hell?

And then cloth masks basically useless?


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Postby nismotrinidappa » August 31st, 2020, 10:10 am

I use the kn95 and I find it's very comfortable and off your nose making breathing easier. I was doing some work in the yard with a cloth mask once and nearly freak out . Pennywise has a kn95 fitting very snug under the chin and seals around your face and nose much better than the first kn95 I bought earlier march. I can wear the kn95 almost whole day comfortably

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Postby K74T » August 31st, 2020, 10:24 am

1 new death

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Postby aaron17 » August 31st, 2020, 10:38 am

MaxPower wrote:
maj. tom wrote:There are other reasons why to wear a mask while in the car with someone inside your social bubble.
This virus is more contagious than anyone ever thought.

Since you're outside your house, everytime you go out with your car you increase your risk because you interact with the outside world with an aerosolized virus that can leave residue in many places you're not aware of, from many people who are likely to be asymptomatic carriers. Touch the door handle, the seat, the arm rest, the steering wheel... was it disinfected from the last time you used the car? You used hand sanitizer? You're so sure 1 single virus particle didn't get by that 5-second hand rubbing sequence? Wearing a mask deters you from touching your face, nose and mouth. That alone will decrease the risk by a lot. Interactions can also happen while you're driving. If the police officer taps on your window, scramble to put on a mask first... or you were just wearing it all the time. Minor accident or a flat tire... last thing on your mind is your mask.

Well would it matter because you're living together anyway? Maybe. Because when you reach home and exit the car you can wash your hands with soap properly and get rid of any residue that could make it to your nose and mouth by hand. The mask was preventing that. Again, we're observing how super-contagious this virus is. Every bit of training and good habit helps. The good habit is wearing a mask anytime you leave home. You won't get complacent. You won't touch your nose and your face. You set an example as normal for other people out there who are thinking the same. You're making sure you cannot be careless. This is for you. It's like a drill that your practise all the time. Argue if you want "because that is stupid since we live together." I'm sure there are literally millions of people in the world who so far had such arguments.


Wow...
Big up

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 31st, 2020, 11:49 am

aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
maj. tom wrote:There are other reasons why to wear a mask while in the car with someone inside your social bubble.
This virus is more contagious than anyone ever thought.

Since you're outside your house, everytime you go out with your car you increase your risk because you interact with the outside world with an aerosolized virus that can leave residue in many places you're not aware of, from many people who are likely to be asymptomatic carriers. Touch the door handle, the seat, the arm rest, the steering wheel... was it disinfected from the last time you used the car? You used hand sanitizer? You're so sure 1 single virus particle didn't get by that 5-second hand rubbing sequence? Wearing a mask deters you from touching your face, nose and mouth. That alone will decrease the risk by a lot. Interactions can also happen while you're driving. If the police officer taps on your window, scramble to put on a mask first... or you were just wearing it all the time. Minor accident or a flat tire... last thing on your mind is yourask.

Well would it matter because you're living together anyway? Maybe. Because when you reach home and exit the car you can wash your hands with soap properly and get rid of any residue that could make it to your nose and mouth by hand. The mask was preventing that. Again, we're observing how super-contagious this virus is. Every bit of training and good habit helps. The good habit is wearing a mask anytime you leave home. You won't get complacent. You won't touch your nose and your face. You set an example as normal for other people out there who are thinking the same. You're making sure you cannot be careless. This is for you. It's like a drill that your practise all the time. Argue if you want "because that is stupid since we live together." I'm sure there are literally millions of people in the world who so far had such arguments.


Wow...
Big up


All the latest studies show the virus is extremely difficult to contract via touch, 99% of the spread occurs via the air. So all this handwashing is rather pointless toward the fight against Covid.

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Postby The_Honourable » August 31st, 2020, 11:57 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
maj. tom wrote:There are other reasons why to wear a mask while in the car with someone inside your social bubble.
This virus is more contagious than anyone ever thought.

Since you're outside your house, everytime you go out with your car you increase your risk because you interact with the outside world with an aerosolized virus that can leave residue in many places you're not aware of, from many people who are likely to be asymptomatic carriers. Touch the door handle, the seat, the arm rest, the steering wheel... was it disinfected from the last time you used the car? You used hand sanitizer? You're so sure 1 single virus particle didn't get by that 5-second hand rubbing sequence? Wearing a mask deters you from touching your face, nose and mouth. That alone will decrease the risk by a lot. Interactions can also happen while you're driving. If the police officer taps on your window, scramble to put on a mask first... or you were just wearing it all the time. Minor accident or a flat tire... last thing on your mind is yourask.

Well would it matter because you're living together anyway? Maybe. Because when you reach home and exit the car you can wash your hands with soap properly and get rid of any residue that could make it to your nose and mouth by hand. The mask was preventing that. Again, we're observing how super-contagious this virus is. Every bit of training and good habit helps. The good habit is wearing a mask anytime you leave home. You won't get complacent. You won't touch your nose and your face. You set an example as normal for other people out there who are thinking the same. You're making sure you cannot be careless. This is for you. It's like a drill that your practise all the time. Argue if you want "because that is stupid since we live together." I'm sure there are literally millions of people in the world who so far had such arguments.


Wow...
Big up


All the latest studies show the virus is extremely difficult to contract via touch, 99% of the spread occurs via the air. So all this handwashing is rather pointless toward the fight against Covid.


Sources?

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Postby aaron17 » August 31st, 2020, 11:59 am

Mask law documentation?
7 things to know about the new face-mask legislation
http://www.looptt.com/content/7-things- ... egislation

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Postby jhonnieblue » August 31st, 2020, 12:10 pm

My question is now that we have sustained community spread, why aren't the boarders being reopened?

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Postby pugboy » August 31st, 2020, 12:17 pm

ferris now say on tv that the govt printery made an error
you still have to wear a mask when exercising

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Postby sMASH » August 31st, 2020, 12:23 pm

somebody say farris say the laws the ttps screen shot supposed to be 5 yrs and 8 yrs for children but its printed as 5yrs and 11yrs for children in public and children travelling in vehicles respectively.

that printer jamming owah?

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Postby pugboy » August 31st, 2020, 12:29 pm

man blaming govt printery
so somebody type over the document there

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 1727 cases, 22 deaths, 1029 active, 676 discharged in T&T

Postby aaron17 » August 31st, 2020, 12:50 pm

sMASH wrote:somebody say farris say the laws the ttps screen shot supposed to be 5 yrs and 8 yrs for children but its printed as 5yrs and 11yrs for children in public and children travelling in vehicles respectively.

that printer jamming owah?
I see what you did there ...

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