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cow wrote:insists that Chelsea have fluked their way to their recent DOMINANCE over his Manchester United team.
Match Odds: Chelsea 2.20, Draw 3.10, Man Utd 3.50 (William Hill)
Chelsea to qualify @ 1.83
Man Utd to qualify @ 1.83
Something has to give
Hill's can't separate which side will progress from this tie pricing the Premier League rivals @ 1.83 to march into the semi-finals.
* Chelsea have won every competitive game against Manchester United with Carlo Ancelotti in charge.
* Manchester United have won all four times in Europe where they have been drawn against English opposition.
Betting Verdict
The battle of Britain couldn't be tighter as evidenced by the tight odds available on the game. For the home leg you would have to fancy the Blues to come good as United haven't won at Stamford Bridge since 2002. However, the Red Devils rarely draw a blank and history is on their side.
drunkenscorpion wrote:Productivity gonna be low in this office from 2:30 today..........
Chelsea gonna rest some good ole cutarse on Manure!
Six reasons why Chelsea are no longer the team that thrashed Wigan 6-0 in August
Record win last summer led many to think the champions would be the team to chase again, but a myriad of problems have brought the club to the lowest point of the Abramovich era
1. Didier Drogba's malaria
The towering Ivorian has been one of the Premier League's finest imports, bullying defenders into submission and producing moments of genuine quality since he joined back in 2004, but this season has seen an alarming dip. In November, the 33-year-old complained of feeling unwell before Chelsea's trip to Liverpool and sat out the first half before coming on as a substitute in the 2-0 defeat.
Tests later revealed that the forward had malaria, an energy sapping and potentially fatal disease. Remarkably, and either a testament to the man's strength or the stupidity of the club's medical staff, the player did not miss a game, yet clearly was operating at nowhere near full power. The striker has scored just five goals in the 24 games he has been involved in since the diagnosis.
There is of course the possibility that the illness is masking a natural decline towards the final seasons of his career, but last year Drogba, a fine athlete, was immense, showing very little sign that such a dramatic drop was to come. Malaria has at the very least brought forward the expiry date on the striker's top-flight performance levels, and at the worst has left him not even half the player he was just 12 months before.
2. Injuries
Last year Chelsea were relatively lucky with their injury woes en route to a domestic double, and had the added security of veteran stalwarts like Deco, Ricardo Carvalho, Juliano Belletti and Michael Ballack to call upon to ease the load in the event of a spate of knocks wiping out starters. This season has been different.
Since pasting Wigan at the DW in August, Yossi Benayoun has been hit by a serious injury which had kept him out until only the past two weeks; John Terry missed a chunk of November, coinciding with the beginning of the rot in form; the dependable Alex has been absent since December with a knee complaint; and even Frank Lampard, who has an appearance tally that usually only goalkeepers can reach, has been afflicted with problems, missing September through November.
Undoubtedly such key losses have harmed Chelsea's hopes this season, particularly the two more senior absentees. The England men have been the Blues' rocks of Roman Abramovich's success and their calmness and influence were sorely missed through the disastrous winter run, effectively leaving the side playing catch up for the rest of the season.
3. Fernando Torres changing the balance of the side and misfiring
By December, most fans and pundits were in agreement that serious investment needed to be made in January to avert the highly likely disaster scenario of the club not even qualifying for next season's Champions League. A quality forward was the most obvious area of improvement, and when the Stamford Bridge outfit beamed their Striker-SOS-Signal in the direction of Merseyside, Fernando Torres looked up to the skies and knew he had to answer it.
But, despite signing for a mammoth £50 million fee, he still hasn't answered the distress call and has spent his nine games for the club wandering around forlornly, scarcely showing a flicker of the quality that is hidden beneath the depressed exterior.
The Spaniard's cause has not been helped by being forced to play in unusual systems and unfamiliar positions, lending credence to the theory that this was, like Andriy Shevchenko before, the owner's signing foisted onto a manager who had made no plans for an extra striker. The 27-year-old's presence should add variety and danger to Chelsea's forward play, but the clear confusion has muddied the team's passing moves as he has been unable to forge a partnership with Lampard, Drogba or Anelka, leaving the Blues blunter and more bundling than ever on the attack.
4. Ray Wilkins' departure
Carlo Ancelotti's right-hand man left in acrimonious and unclear circumstances, with his exit immediately being followed by a stretch of mediocre and downright dreadful performances.
The former AC Milan and Manchester United player is a renowned coach whose technical knowhow and tactical understanding may not necessarily come through as a co-commentator but would surely have resonated through Chelsea's Cobham training ground and on match days.
Players would have looked up to a man capped 84 times by his country and been instrumental in the double-winning side of last season. His shock dismissal would have raised eyebrows and disheartened spirits throughout coaching and playing staff.
5. Players not performing
At times last year Chelsea produced breathtaking performances with a full starring cast, but too many players have coasted through this campaign, and they can have no-one but themselves to blame.
Michael Essien, Florent Malouda and Ashley Cole were all at the top of their game last season. This season has been dramatically different.
Essien's wild tackles, which have always been a part of his game but have been mostly overshadowed by formidable all-round play, have often been his only noticeable aspect of his presence.
Malouda is only four goals short of his haul of 15 last season but his overall game has been nowhere near the high levels set last season, with the winger even being replaced by Yuri Zhirkov in the starting line-up against Manchester United on Wednesday – an unfathomable fall for a player who was heinously underrated last season.
And Cole, perhaps like Drogba and Lampard, appears to be slipping into his retirement slippers a bit too early, with some timid attacking displays, not least in this week's Champions League quarter-final, that are wildly uncharacteristic.
6. Growing uncertainty around Carlo Ancelotti's future
It may seem ridiculous that a man who won the double in his first year in a foreign league, bringing the title back for the first time in four years, should be facing questions about his job security, but the Italian has this season.
As soon as the cracks began to emerge in Chelsea's season in November, the 'Ancelotti out' rumours cranked up. At the time they seemed malicious and not rooted in reality, but his seeming acquiescence to Abramovich by playing the out-of-form Torres at the expense of the team's balance, combined with his failure to keep his players in check or performing to their best, and a gutlessness in the big games has raised serious doubts about the former AC Milan manager's suitability in the long term.
Rumours of a return to Serie A with newly cash rich Roma have been whipped up even by the man himself, who seems to have one eye on a summer exit with his reputation still intact. The Italian has said that it would be a "dream" to manage the team that he made nearly 200 appearances as a player for, and with a certain Portuguese boss in Spain making noises of a return to the Premier League, some Blues fans might not be too fussed about saying arrivederci to Ancelotti.
I going and get drunk...........hadda drown meh sorrows.........
douglaking wrote:
pioneer wrote:Drogba needs to leave chelsea...he should go to liverpool
In his first three Liverpool seasons and during the time of Spain’s triumphant Euro 2008 campaign, Fernando Torres would have been involved in most discussions on who was the world’s best striker. His recent move to Chelsea came with a price tag that suggested as much, but at least until now the sinking Spaniard has failed to pay back a penny of the £50m fee paid to Liverpool for his services. Ability cannot disappear, but where exactly is Torres’ talent hiding?
In eight league appearances for his new club in all competitions, Torres has mustered just 16 shots and has hit the target in just three of his matches, less than a third of overall shots testing the goalkeeper. Goals is the obvious statistic to look at regarding how well a striker is performing, of which Torres has zero, but without an assist to his name either the Spaniard has not been directly involved in any goal Chelsea have scored since his arrival. Indeed, they have only scored six goals in the league while Torres has been on the pitch, but have managed nine when he has been either taken off, brought on or as an unused substitute. And that he has played 455 minutes of the possible 710 since his signing in January suggests he is currently more of a hindrance to his teammates than he is helpful.
Furthermore, Torres’ movement replicates how he was playing for Liverpool for the half season before his big-money move - the aforementioned two shots per appearance showing he is not finding the right positions a striker should. Criticism was levelled at him that his heart was no longer with the club, but we are seeing the same sluggish, lightweight performances at his new club, which was supposed to be a fresh start in a new city. Last weekend against Wigan, in more than half an hour on the pitch, he touched the ball seven times, passing it five times and losing out the other two. Is this a sign his teammates feel his lack of confidence and are not giving him the ball or that his lack of self-belief is causing him to hide during matches?
The downfall is remarkable, considering this is a player who scored 18 in 22 last season and 81 in all competitions in his three-and-a-half seasons at Anfield. From being excellent throughout the Euro 2008 tournament and scoring the only goal in the final he has become a shadow of the player Rafael Benitez brought to England. Several times the tormentor of one of the league’s most composed centre-backs, Nemanja Vidic, the 27-year-old has become a striker who now finds himself in the pockets of defences with far less ability than Manchester United’s. The problems seem to have appeared overnight, but in truth he has not been the same player for some time, with the summer a likely time as to where the issues began.
When Benitez left Liverpool for Inter last summer, Torres found his situation insecure, which led to a disjointed World Cup 2010 performance on the fringes of the Spanish side, and upon his return to England had a new manager with a very different philosophy. Torres is undoubtedly a confidence forward and when made into the star of a team - as he was under Benitez at Liverpool - he performs as well as any striker, yet under a manager who placed the emphasis on a complete team performance he struggled. The head went down and, ultimately, the Spaniard managed just nine goals in 23 league games for the Reds this season. He also ended with his lowest shot accuracy since arriving on Merseyside at just under 41%.
For Liverpool, Torres was the main man up front, usually accompanied by Steven Gerrard just behind. At Chelsea, new boss Carlo Ancelotti has attempted to bed his star into his team in numerous formations, yet so far with no success. He has played alongside Didier Drogba in a strike pairing and, more recently, has been tested as the focal point in Chelsea’s more recognised 4-3-3 formation. Ancelotti’s decision to play the Spaniard over the Ivorian has been criticised, because now that Drogba has worked his way back into the line-up he has far outperformed his teammate, with another goal in the first half against West Bromwich Albion on Saturday.
With no success for Torres in the Champions League either, as his side crashed out in the quarter-finals, he now has six more league games in which to make an impact to give Chelsea fans some hope he might yet pay back his fee. It is far too early to claim Torres has been a waste of money as there is surely still little doubt he will, sooner or later, return to the player he really is.
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