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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » October 2nd, 2024, 11:18 am

hover11 wrote:It has an established process when it comes to collective bargaining and the finance minister coming on tv to announce negotiations is not how it is done. It is not a take it or leave it situation. Funny enough these are the same unions that wanted to shut down the country when kamla offered 14 percent yet here they are merely disgruntled when PNM offers 5 percent
That's because they are basically PNM party groups, including the PSA which is the most pro PNM of all.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2024, 11:50 am

wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:It has an established process when it comes to collective bargaining and the finance minister coming on tv to announce negotiations is not how it is done. It is not a take it or leave it situation. Funny enough these are the same unions that wanted to shut down the country when kamla offered 14 percent yet here they are merely disgruntled when PNM offers 5 percent
That's because they are basically PNM party groups, including the PSA which is the most pro PNM of all.
In the words of imbert and I will agree with him on this, they haven't rioted as yet .

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby gastly369 » October 2nd, 2024, 3:10 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:Do we have enough psychologist to help children when gun shots go off outside their schools in pnm areas?
Gun shots sounds is ah normz dey could probably even name the person and gun everytime dey hear it "yeh diz meh padna"

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Mmoney607 » October 2nd, 2024, 3:58 pm

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Mmoney607 wrote:Do we have enough psychologist to help children when gun shots go off outside their schools in pnm areas?
Gun shots sounds is ah normz dey could probably even name the person and gun everytime dey hear it "yeh diz meh padna"

That's life after decades of PNM rule

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » October 2nd, 2024, 6:50 pm

All Failed Companies under PNM

Shame, Shame

Imbert said the sale of Clico is one of several special projects, which the Government expects "to generate much-needed revenue, and create new jobs, to divest state assets that are better managed by the private sector, to encourage direct foreign investment, and local investment, especially in the tourism sector."

As at March 31, 2024, the State Enterprises Sector expended $829.2 million on various projects whilst $3,385.7 million is projected to be expended for the remainder of fiscal 2024. The projected expenditure
for fiscal 2025 is $4,384.0 million. The projects to be implemented are detailed at Appendices II and III.

*Divestment*

*Sale of Assets Programme*
The sale of the Rice Mills Operations of National Flour Mills Limited located at Carlsen Field, 49 percent of the shareholding of Lake Asphalt of Trinidad and Tobago (1978) Limited (LATT) and the divestment (wholly or partially) of The Vehicle Management Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago Limited (VMCOTT) *remain on hold.*

*Dissolution of Companies*
The following companies have ceased operations and are at various stages of being wound up:
• Caroni (1975) Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Caroni GREEN Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Community Improvement Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Clico Trust Corporation Limited (Clico Investment Fund) – (100% State-owned) – undergoing preliquidation activities;
• Education Facilities Company Limited (100%) – The Government has agreed to the winding up of EFCL;
• Government Human Resource Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was
appointed;
• Government Information Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• National Health Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – is in the process of being removed
from the Companies Registry;
• Portfolio Management Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Seafood Industry Development Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Taurus Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Tourism Development Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Trinidad and Tobago Free Zones Company Limited (TTFZ) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Union Estate Electricity Generation Company Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Secondary Road Rehabilitation and Improvement Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation
activities; and
• Sugar Manufacturing Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities.

The Liquidation of the following non-operational State Enterprises was completed and the Ministry of Finance is awaiting Dissolution Certificates from the Companies Registry:
• National Broadcasting Network Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Entertainment Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Export Trading Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Forest Product Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Revenue Authority Management Company Limited; and
• Human Capital Development Facilitation Company Limited.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2024, 6:54 pm

zoom rader wrote:All Failed Companies under PNM

Shame, Shame

Imbert said the sale of Clico is one of several special projects, which the Government expects "to generate much-needed revenue, and create new jobs, to divest state assets that are better managed by the private sector, to encourage direct foreign investment, and local investment, especially in the tourism sector."

As at March 31, 2024, the State Enterprises Sector expended $829.2 million on various projects whilst $3,385.7 million is projected to be expended for the remainder of fiscal 2024. The projected expenditure
for fiscal 2025 is $4,384.0 million. The projects to be implemented are detailed at Appendices II and III.

*Divestment*

*Sale of Assets Programme*
The sale of the Rice Mills Operations of National Flour Mills Limited located at Carlsen Field, 49 percent of the shareholding of Lake Asphalt of Trinidad and Tobago (1978) Limited (LATT) and the divestment (wholly or partially) of The Vehicle Management Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago Limited (VMCOTT) *remain on hold.*

*Dissolution of Companies*
The following companies have ceased operations and are at various stages of being wound up:
• Caroni (1975) Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Caroni GREEN Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Community Improvement Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Clico Trust Corporation Limited (Clico Investment Fund) – (100% State-owned) – undergoing preliquidation activities;
• Education Facilities Company Limited (100%) – The Government has agreed to the winding up of EFCL;
• Government Human Resource Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was
appointed;
• Government Information Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• National Health Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – is in the process of being removed
from the Companies Registry;
• Portfolio Management Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Seafood Industry Development Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Taurus Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Tourism Development Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Trinidad and Tobago Free Zones Company Limited (TTFZ) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Union Estate Electricity Generation Company Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Secondary Road Rehabilitation and Improvement Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation
activities; and
• Sugar Manufacturing Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities.

The Liquidation of the following non-operational State Enterprises was completed and the Ministry of Finance is awaiting Dissolution Certificates from the Companies Registry:
• National Broadcasting Network Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Entertainment Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Export Trading Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Forest Product Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Revenue Authority Management Company Limited; and
• Human Capital Development Facilitation Company Limited.
Will never understand why the Government continues to get involved in business when everything they touch turns to shite

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » October 2nd, 2024, 7:32 pm

hover11 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:All Failed Companies under PNM

Shame, Shame

Imbert said the sale of Clico is one of several special projects, which the Government expects "to generate much-needed revenue, and create new jobs, to divest state assets that are better managed by the private sector, to encourage direct foreign investment, and local investment, especially in the tourism sector."

As at March 31, 2024, the State Enterprises Sector expended $829.2 million on various projects whilst $3,385.7 million is projected to be expended for the remainder of fiscal 2024. The projected expenditure
for fiscal 2025 is $4,384.0 million. The projects to be implemented are detailed at Appendices II and III.

*Divestment*

*Sale of Assets Programme*
The sale of the Rice Mills Operations of National Flour Mills Limited located at Carlsen Field, 49 percent of the shareholding of Lake Asphalt of Trinidad and Tobago (1978) Limited (LATT) and the divestment (wholly or partially) of The Vehicle Management Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago Limited (VMCOTT) *remain on hold.*

*Dissolution of Companies*
The following companies have ceased operations and are at various stages of being wound up:
• Caroni (1975) Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Caroni GREEN Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Community Improvement Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Clico Trust Corporation Limited (Clico Investment Fund) – (100% State-owned) – undergoing preliquidation activities;
• Education Facilities Company Limited (100%) – The Government has agreed to the winding up of EFCL;
• Government Human Resource Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was
appointed;
• Government Information Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• National Health Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – is in the process of being removed
from the Companies Registry;
• Portfolio Management Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Seafood Industry Development Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Taurus Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Tourism Development Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Trinidad and Tobago Free Zones Company Limited (TTFZ) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Union Estate Electricity Generation Company Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Secondary Road Rehabilitation and Improvement Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation
activities; and
• Sugar Manufacturing Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities.

The Liquidation of the following non-operational State Enterprises was completed and the Ministry of Finance is awaiting Dissolution Certificates from the Companies Registry:
• National Broadcasting Network Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Entertainment Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Export Trading Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Forest Product Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Revenue Authority Management Company Limited; and
• Human Capital Development Facilitation Company Limited.
Will never understand why the Government continues to get involved in business when everything they touch turns to shite
So selling and divestment of government owned and operated companies is good then?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 2nd, 2024, 7:47 pm

wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:All Failed Companies under PNM

Shame, Shame

Imbert said the sale of Clico is one of several special projects, which the Government expects "to generate much-needed revenue, and create new jobs, to divest state assets that are better managed by the private sector, to encourage direct foreign investment, and local investment, especially in the tourism sector."

As at March 31, 2024, the State Enterprises Sector expended $829.2 million on various projects whilst $3,385.7 million is projected to be expended for the remainder of fiscal 2024. The projected expenditure
for fiscal 2025 is $4,384.0 million. The projects to be implemented are detailed at Appendices II and III.

*Divestment*

*Sale of Assets Programme*
The sale of the Rice Mills Operations of National Flour Mills Limited located at Carlsen Field, 49 percent of the shareholding of Lake Asphalt of Trinidad and Tobago (1978) Limited (LATT) and the divestment (wholly or partially) of The Vehicle Management Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago Limited (VMCOTT) *remain on hold.*

*Dissolution of Companies*
The following companies have ceased operations and are at various stages of being wound up:
• Caroni (1975) Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Caroni GREEN Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Community Improvement Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Clico Trust Corporation Limited (Clico Investment Fund) – (100% State-owned) – undergoing preliquidation activities;
• Education Facilities Company Limited (100%) – The Government has agreed to the winding up of EFCL;
• Government Human Resource Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was
appointed;
• Government Information Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• National Health Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – is in the process of being removed
from the Companies Registry;
• Portfolio Management Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Seafood Industry Development Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Taurus Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Tourism Development Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Trinidad and Tobago Free Zones Company Limited (TTFZ) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Union Estate Electricity Generation Company Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Secondary Road Rehabilitation and Improvement Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation
activities; and
• Sugar Manufacturing Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities.

The Liquidation of the following non-operational State Enterprises was completed and the Ministry of Finance is awaiting Dissolution Certificates from the Companies Registry:
• National Broadcasting Network Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Entertainment Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Export Trading Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Forest Product Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Revenue Authority Management Company Limited; and
• Human Capital Development Facilitation Company Limited.
Will never understand why the Government continues to get involved in business when everything they touch turns to shite
So selling and divestment of government owned and operated companies is good then?
What was the point of buying and investing in Magdalena when they now looking to sell it, what was the point of Caroni 1975, what was the point of the closure of the refinery only to look to reopen it. What is the logic behind buying new planes for CAL when they cannot turn a profit? What is the point in buying more busses for PTSC when they have so many that are unusable due to little or no maintenance. You see where I going this right. The government invested more than 13 Billion with Clico, they should have cut their losses a long time ago

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » October 2nd, 2024, 8:12 pm

hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:All Failed Companies under PNM

Shame, Shame

Imbert said the sale of Clico is one of several special projects, which the Government expects "to generate much-needed revenue, and create new jobs, to divest state assets that are better managed by the private sector, to encourage direct foreign investment, and local investment, especially in the tourism sector."

As at March 31, 2024, the State Enterprises Sector expended $829.2 million on various projects whilst $3,385.7 million is projected to be expended for the remainder of fiscal 2024. The projected expenditure
for fiscal 2025 is $4,384.0 million. The projects to be implemented are detailed at Appendices II and III.

*Divestment*

*Sale of Assets Programme*
The sale of the Rice Mills Operations of National Flour Mills Limited located at Carlsen Field, 49 percent of the shareholding of Lake Asphalt of Trinidad and Tobago (1978) Limited (LATT) and the divestment (wholly or partially) of The Vehicle Management Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago Limited (VMCOTT) *remain on hold.*

*Dissolution of Companies*
The following companies have ceased operations and are at various stages of being wound up:
• Caroni (1975) Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Caroni GREEN Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Community Improvement Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Clico Trust Corporation Limited (Clico Investment Fund) – (100% State-owned) – undergoing preliquidation activities;
• Education Facilities Company Limited (100%) – The Government has agreed to the winding up of EFCL;
• Government Human Resource Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was
appointed;
• Government Information Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• National Health Services Company Limited (100% State-owned) – is in the process of being removed
from the Companies Registry;
• Portfolio Management Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Seafood Industry Development Company Limited (100% State-owned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Taurus Services Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Tourism Development Company Limited (100% Stateowned) – a liquidator was appointed;
• Trinidad and Tobago Free Zones Company Limited (TTFZ) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Union Estate Electricity Generation Company Limited (100% State-owned) – undergoing pre-liquidation activities;
• Secondary Road Rehabilitation and Improvement Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation
activities; and
• Sugar Manufacturing Company Limited – undergoing pre-liquidation activities.

The Liquidation of the following non-operational State Enterprises was completed and the Ministry of Finance is awaiting Dissolution Certificates from the Companies Registry:
• National Broadcasting Network Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Entertainment Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Export Trading Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Forest Product Company Limited;
• Trinidad and Tobago Revenue Authority Management Company Limited; and
• Human Capital Development Facilitation Company Limited.
Will never understand why the Government continues to get involved in business when everything they touch turns to shite
So selling and divestment of government owned and operated companies is good then?
What was the point of buying and investing in Magdalena when they now looking to sell it, what was the point of Caroni 1975, what was the point of the closure of the refinery only to look to reopen it. What is the logic behind buying new planes for CAL when they cannot turn a profit? What is the point in buying more busses for PTSC when they have so many that are unusable due to little or no maintenance. You see where I going this right. The government invested more than 13 Billion with Clico, they should have cut their losses a long time ago
The logic is the parasites get to make money via contracts and fees.

Parasites lobby the PNM

Meanwhile the state looses money and citizens have to foot the bill of looses.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » October 2nd, 2024, 10:24 pm

Pnm don't know what the fack they doing except that they Taking cuts from everybody involved

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 3rd, 2024, 8:57 am

First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » October 3rd, 2024, 7:02 pm

hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.

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Postby hover11 » October 3rd, 2024, 7:08 pm

wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money, which is the 12 percent that they SIGNED for since 2020
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » October 3rd, 2024, 7:28 pm

hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 3rd, 2024, 7:41 pm

wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?
they loss the battle against the TTRA from forming all well and fine but don't worry something is coming, sooner than later, at some point the members will band together and do some noteworthy action that would allow them to be taken seriously. It can't be business as usual now can it....

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Postby The_Honourable » October 3rd, 2024, 7:57 pm

hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?
they loss the battle against the TTRA from forming all well and fine but don't worry something is coming, sooner than later, at some point the members will band together and do some noteworthy action that would allow them to be taken seriously. It can't be business as usual now can it....


Nothing is coming...

PSA membership for the most part bending the knee. They wanted the 4% since last year but it's stuck in the industrial court... and with the TTRA privy council loss, they want Leroy Baptiste out.

PSA elections due but politics as usual. Imbert's comments about 5% and blanking the PSA from negotiations is to rile up the membership more to vote out Leroy when elections are called.

https://newsday.co.tt/2023/07/07/disgru ... tle-for-4/

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/psa-lea ... efb6f167ba

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 3rd, 2024, 8:28 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?
they loss the battle against the TTRA from forming all well and fine but don't worry something is coming, sooner than later, at some point the members will band together and do some noteworthy action that would allow them to be taken seriously. It can't be business as usual now can it....


Nothing is coming...

PSA membership for the most part bending the knee. They wanted the 4% since last year but it's stuck in the industrial court... and with the TTRA privy council loss, they want Leroy Baptiste out.

PSA elections due but politics as usual. Imbert's comments about 5% and blanking the PSA from negotiations is to rile up the membership more to vote out Leroy when elections are called.

https://newsday.co.tt/2023/07/07/disgru ... tle-for-4/

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/psa-lea ... efb6f167ba
Honour is it right or legal that Port workers and NIB workers who signed for 12 and 9 percent respectively since 2020 have not received their dues simply because of political interference. There are no negotiations, it is finished and because the minister of Finance believes that if he pays these group of workers such then the other unions will want the same. There is a process called collective bargaining and the minister cannot circumvent such. The union is still strong believe it or not. A general meeting will be called soon to decide the next course of action

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » October 3rd, 2024, 8:34 pm

Given the port workers strike in the US I just saw a documentary saying Rotterdam, the 10th busiest port in the world runs port operations with something like 20ppl.

Maybe it's time we automate our ports to reduce inefficiency and the need to be held hostage by a cabal.

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Postby paid_influencer » October 3rd, 2024, 8:43 pm

give the port to china

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Postby paid_influencer » October 3rd, 2024, 9:17 pm

lol if u dont realize all those state compamnies on that list are manifestations of patronage netwokes

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Postby hover11 » October 3rd, 2024, 9:20 pm

Last time I checked a contract is a legally binding document , once you sign you agree and are obligated to such but I guess the finance minister is hoping to use the courts to his advantage to stall for time hoping the PNM loses thus kicking the proverbial can down the road until it becomes someone else's problem to address as with everything else

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » October 3rd, 2024, 9:38 pm

hover11 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?
they loss the battle against the TTRA from forming all well and fine but don't worry something is coming, sooner than later, at some point the members will band together and do some noteworthy action that would allow them to be taken seriously. It can't be business as usual now can it....


Nothing is coming...

PSA membership for the most part bending the knee. They wanted the 4% since last year but it's stuck in the industrial court... and with the TTRA privy council loss, they want Leroy Baptiste out.

PSA elections due but politics as usual. Imbert's comments about 5% and blanking the PSA from negotiations is to rile up the membership more to vote out Leroy when elections are called.

https://newsday.co.tt/2023/07/07/disgru ... tle-for-4/

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/psa-lea ... efb6f167ba
Honour is it right or legal that Port workers and NIB workers who signed for 12 and 9 percent respectively since 2020 have not received their dues simply because of political interference. There are no negotiations, it is finished and because the minister of Finance believes that if he pays these group of workers such then the other unions will want the same. There is a process called collective bargaining and the minister cannot circumvent such. The union is still strong believe it or not. A general meeting will be called soon to decide the next course of action


You sounding good...

Political interference is all over the public service and state companies. I understand your point about collective bargaining. Using the court to stall while i don't agree with it is a tactic whether we like it or not.

What you forgot to consider is that within these unions are pro-pnm supporters. One by one unions began bending the knee and shake the CPO hand for 4% over the last few years. If the PSA and all unions were truly united, the 4% offer would have been resoundingly rejected where rowley and imbert would have gotten heat in the first place, but it did not happen.

Yes there will be some marching and singing "we shall overcome" for show... but then most of the unions will end up shaking commander dindial hand.

Pnm have the unions by the balls... and they know it because at the end of the day, those pro-pnm supporters within the membership seek pnm interests first above union interests, even if it costs them via inflation.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » October 4th, 2024, 4:50 am

hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?
they loss the battle against the TTRA from forming all well and fine but don't worry something is coming, sooner than later, at some point the members will band together and do some noteworthy action that would allow them to be taken seriously. It can't be business as usual now can it....
But your master has spoken, will you fall in line?
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby hover11 » October 4th, 2024, 6:46 am

wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?
they loss the battle against the TTRA from forming all well and fine but don't worry something is coming, sooner than later, at some point the members will band together and do some noteworthy action that would allow them to be taken seriously. It can't be business as usual now can it....
But your master has spoken, will you fall in line?
My master is GOD unlike PNM ppl who master is Rowley. More importantly like i said they just need to keep this momentum for one straight week , especially how the US port workers got their settlement
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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » October 4th, 2024, 7:15 am

paid_influencer wrote:give the port to china

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby VexXx Dogg » October 4th, 2024, 9:16 am

paid_influencer wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:give the port to china


There's a cost to selling your soul to the devil.

An intl relations man like Dizzy could prob spell out the implications much better than I can, but Uncle Sam's relationship with us might fundamentally change.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » October 4th, 2024, 9:34 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:give the port to china


There's a cost to selling your soul to the devil.

An intl relations man like Dizzy could prob spell out the implications much better than I can, but Uncle Sam's relationship with us might fundamentally change.


I'll leave the balancing of relations with the Eagle and Panda up to For Affairs. However wrt to the Port there was an RFP which closed recently for an operator of PPOS under a PPP arrangment
https://www.patnt.com/wp-content/upload ... ualify.pdf

I'm hoping the big boys like Hutchinson, DP World or CMA bid. CMA has done well operating Kingston's port and I was fortunate to visit DP World's Caucedo facility in the DR a few years ago and that was also quite and impressive

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » October 4th, 2024, 10:25 am

Kamala say, big govt officials continuously accused of being involved in pedofile rings.


That in hansard

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby daxt0r » October 4th, 2024, 10:42 am

so when we going an hear the PNM installed COP or one dumb or dumber ministers of nat sec on uniformed police kidnapping citizens using police vehicle?
Where the PNM sheep who always bawlin police too wikid etc.
So we reach the point we can shoot behind d police and just say in court fearful for life that they come to kidnap/kill me then.
Even a simple stop can be refused now, well for dem girls that does actually stop for the police that is lol

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » October 4th, 2024, 12:38 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:
wing wrote:
hover11 wrote:First port workers , now pilots striking well done PNM
Pilots were off duty...port operations severely affected.
For now..... how quickly we forget when all CAL pilots called in sick and the entire airport was a mess, meanwhile port workers just have to strike for a good week and they will surely get their money.
Whatever happened to the "war" on the PNM that the PSA promised last year? Was it the privy council case that they lost?
they loss the battle against the TTRA from forming all well and fine but don't worry something is coming, sooner than later, at some point the members will band together and do some noteworthy action that would allow them to be taken seriously. It can't be business as usual now can it....


Nothing is coming...

PSA membership for the most part bending the knee. They wanted the 4% since last year but it's stuck in the industrial court... and with the TTRA privy council loss, they want Leroy Baptiste out.

PSA elections due but politics as usual. Imbert's comments about 5% and blanking the PSA from negotiations is to rile up the membership more to vote out Leroy when elections are called.

https://newsday.co.tt/2023/07/07/disgru ... tle-for-4/

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/psa-lea ... efb6f167ba
Don't get involved with a PNM trade union

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