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sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:india practically giving away the vaccines. but rowley want to chook up in ghana. and all the money talk, he hadda say how much money they drawing down to send to ghana for 'vaccines'
And we asked India for their vaccines, for free or at a cost and we are waiting. India is doing charity, we cannot demand or dictate the order THEY choose to distribute it.
We probably are the best managed covid-19 impacted country in Caricom and India has to account to their own citizens as to the order and priority they distribute their freebies. How can they justify giving T&T with 5 cases a day over other countries that are far worst?
To lie to them and claim that we are "reeling" is not going to speed it up. The proper management that brought us to such a good situation wrt covid-19, will give you vaccines. Stop lamenting.
we not reeling, so we dont need, but the 2000 we beg bados for, it lap up one time. if it not important they woulda open back more tings in the coutnry .
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:india practically giving away the vaccines. but rowley want to chook up in ghana. and all the money talk, he hadda say how much money they drawing down to send to ghana for 'vaccines'
And we asked India for their vaccines, for free or at a cost and we are waiting. India is doing charity, we cannot demand or dictate the order THEY choose to distribute it.
We probably are the best managed covid-19 impacted country in Caricom and India has to account to their own citizens as to the order and priority they distribute their freebies. How can they justify giving T&T with 5 cases a day over other countries that are far worst?
To lie to them and claim that we are "reeling" is not going to speed it up. The proper management that brought us to such a good situation wrt covid-19, will give you vaccines. Stop lamenting.
we not reeling, so we dont need, but the 2000 we beg bados for, it lap up one time. if it not important they woulda open back more tings in the coutnry .
We didn't beg Barbados, Barbados choose to give us and Guyana.
sMASH wrote:terry: trinidad is NOT reeling from the covid, so much so that we took 2000 vaccine doses from a country that got an emergency supply to deal with a covid outbreak.
yup, makes sense.
guardian wrote:High Commissioner: No arrangement with India for vaccines
by
12 days ago
Tue Feb 23 2021
Renuka Singh
There is no agreement yet between T&T and India for either the purchase or donation of Oxford-AstraZeneca Covishield vaccines. This was confirmed yesterday by Indian High Commissioner Arun Kumar Sahu who said this country’s order of 250,000 vaccines from the Serum Institute in India has not been finalised.
Guardian Media contacted the High Commissioner last week about the status of this country’s order of Indian-made vaccines. In a response yesterday, the High Commissioner’s office said it is willing to help expedite the order but only after T&T “places an order with the Serum Institute directly and reaches a commercial agreement.”
“The external supplies of vaccines are an ongoing process, depending on availability and domestic requirements,” the office said. It added that in the coming weeks, Indian vaccines are expected “to reach some of the Caribbean countries whose governments have requested India for donation” but gave no further details.
“The total donation of vaccine to the Caribbean countries is expected to be around 500,000 doses,” High Commissioner Sahu said.
T&T, through Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne, began discussions about purchasing 250,000 orders of the vaccine on February 16, one day after the Serum Institute received Word Health Organisation (WHO) approval. Browne has written to his Indian counterpart, Dr S. Jaishankar, for help in getting the required export approval.
“Keeping in mind our own domestic demand and other commitments for made in India vaccines, our long-standing friendly relations with the Government and people of Trinidad and Tobago, we will try our best to expedite this approval process,” the High Commissioner said.
However, he pointed out: “The High Commission is not aware of any proposal from the Trinidad and Tobago Government requesting for gifting of vaccines by the Government of India.”
The Government of India donated some 50,000 doses of vaccines to Barbados, another 70,000 to Dominica and will contribute some 500,000 vaccines to Caricom. By yesterday’s count, India has donated 6.75 million doses and dispatched another 22.3 million doses on commercial terms to 28 countries.
Barbados has gifted T&T 2,000 doses of vaccines, enough to vaccinate 1000 people, and 3,000 to Guyana.
“In the Latin America and Caribbean region, Mexico has already purchased 0.87 million doses; Brazil has purchased 2 million doses, and Argentina purchased 5.8 million doses,” the Commissioner said. “India has also donated 200,000 doses for UN Peacekeeping Force.”
More than 90 countries are looking for Indian vaccines either through donation or commercial purchase and as of yesterday, some 28 countries have benefited from made in India vaccines.
T&T began the rollout of the 2,000 vaccines last Wednesday in Trinidad and in Tobago on Saturday. The first doses have already been administered and the second doses are expected to be administered within the next 12 weeks.
At a press conference yesterday, Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley warned that smaller countries are being overlooked in their attempts to get COVID-19 vaccine supplies. He and Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said the government is trying to manoeuvre around an unequal market.
According to Dr Rowley, some smaller countries are not even being allowed inside the door to place orders.
However just last week he was confident about the supply to T&T saying then that “monies have been paid, local preparations have been made, orders, negotiations outside of COVAX supply are currently underway and we are close to receiving and using our anticipated supply.”
This red government does not want any dealings with the calcutta ships.sMASH wrote:pRiOrItY.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/high-co ... 1605efbed4guardian wrote:High Commissioner: No arrangement with India for vaccines
by
12 days ago
Tue Feb 23 2021
Renuka Singh
There is no agreement yet between T&T and India for either the purchase or donation of Oxford-AstraZeneca Covishield vaccines. This was confirmed yesterday by Indian High Commissioner Arun Kumar Sahu who said this country’s order of 250,000 vaccines from the Serum Institute in India has not been finalised.
Guardian Media contacted the High Commissioner last week about the status of this country’s order of Indian-made vaccines. In a response yesterday, the High Commissioner’s office said it is willing to help expedite the order but only after T&T “places an order with the Serum Institute directly and reaches a commercial agreement.”
“The external supplies of vaccines are an ongoing process, depending on availability and domestic requirements,” the office said. It added that in the coming weeks, Indian vaccines are expected “to reach some of the Caribbean countries whose governments have requested India for donation” but gave no further details.
“The total donation of vaccine to the Caribbean countries is expected to be around 500,000 doses,” High Commissioner Sahu said.
T&T, through Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne, began discussions about purchasing 250,000 orders of the vaccine on February 16, one day after the Serum Institute received Word Health Organisation (WHO) approval. Browne has written to his Indian counterpart, Dr S. Jaishankar, for help in getting the required export approval.
“Keeping in mind our own domestic demand and other commitments for made in India vaccines, our long-standing friendly relations with the Government and people of Trinidad and Tobago, we will try our best to expedite this approval process,” the High Commissioner said.
However, he pointed out: “The High Commission is not aware of any proposal from the Trinidad and Tobago Government requesting for gifting of vaccines by the Government of India.”
The Government of India donated some 50,000 doses of vaccines to Barbados, another 70,000 to Dominica and will contribute some 500,000 vaccines to Caricom. By yesterday’s count, India has donated 6.75 million doses and dispatched another 22.3 million doses on commercial terms to 28 countries.
Barbados has gifted T&T 2,000 doses of vaccines, enough to vaccinate 1000 people, and 3,000 to Guyana.
“In the Latin America and Caribbean region, Mexico has already purchased 0.87 million doses; Brazil has purchased 2 million doses, and Argentina purchased 5.8 million doses,” the Commissioner said. “India has also donated 200,000 doses for UN Peacekeeping Force.”
More than 90 countries are looking for Indian vaccines either through donation or commercial purchase and as of yesterday, some 28 countries have benefited from made in India vaccines.
T&T began the rollout of the 2,000 vaccines last Wednesday in Trinidad and in Tobago on Saturday. The first doses have already been administered and the second doses are expected to be administered within the next 12 weeks.
At a press conference yesterday, Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley warned that smaller countries are being overlooked in their attempts to get COVID-19 vaccine supplies. He and Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said the government is trying to manoeuvre around an unequal market.
According to Dr Rowley, some smaller countries are not even being allowed inside the door to place orders.
However just last week he was confident about the supply to T&T saying then that “monies have been paid, local preparations have been made, orders, negotiations outside of COVAX supply are currently underway and we are close to receiving and using our anticipated supply.”
but bados get, dominica, a good few places around the world that not small get.
lie lie lie lie lie lie lie...
from oil/gas deal, to yam deal to rbtt, and now to covax..... rowley just finding ways to funnel money to the african continent.
and plying BS reasons.
Habit7 wrote:Playing politics is not getting the freely available current flu vaccine, not getting the yellow fever vaccine, but crying down the GoRTT because of sovereign India's priority of who they give vaccines.
You all need some sunlight.
Best they buy local from trevor searssMASH wrote:so they rather pay a pong and ah crore for ghana to relable it 'callalloo vaccine' to resell we the same ting?
dat making sense?
zoom rader wrote:Best they buy local from trevor searssMASH wrote:so they rather pay a pong and ah crore for ghana to relable it 'callalloo vaccine' to resell we the same ting?
dat making sense?
Browne: Government proactive about getting covid19 vaccines
PAULA LINDO WEDNESDAY 24 FEBRUARY 2021
Caricom and Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne says the Serum Institute of India (SII) has said it is not in a position to accept further vaccine orders at this time.
He said this is only one of the avenues the government has explored in procuring covid19 vaccines.
Speaking at the Health Ministry’s media briefing on Wednesday, Browne addressed the issue of obtaining vaccines from India.
He said on February 4, a private-sector manufacturer from India offered Caricom member states, through the Caricom Secretariat, the opportunity to buy a vaccine called Covaxin, which has not yet received WHO approval.
“This information was passed on to the Health Ministry, who sought my ministry’s assistance to engage the Indian High Commission towards the purchase of Covishield (India's name for the AstraZeneca vaccine), because the information at that time was that it was due for approval by the WHO.
"Covishield was the vaccine which was approved on February 15, 2021.”
Browne said he conveyed the relevant information to the High Commission of India on the basis of the Health Ministry’s request, as well as writing to his counterpart in India, the Minister of External Affairs.
He said more recently, the TT Prime Minister corresponded with the Indian Prime Minister, all with regard to efforts to broaden the scope of vaccine availability beyond Covax and the African Union.
“There were some challenges with establishing communication with SII, the manufacturer of Covishield. The Indian High Commission clarified that the Indian government was in a position to assist with the export of vaccines to TT, but the purchase order must be made with the private sector, that is, the Serum Institute.
"I sought the assistance of Trinidad and Tobago’s High Commissioner in Delhi, Roger Gopaul, who was successful in reaching the SII, and unfortunately the response from them, the private-sector entity, was that SII is not in a position to accept any further orders for vaccine at this time.
"I met subsequently with the High Commission of India and conveyed this information.
"I want to make it clear that the Government of India has indicated to us that they will take all available measures, they will go the extra mile to secure the provision of Covishield vaccines for TT.”
He said there has been no offer of free vaccines from the Indian government, either directly to TT or through the Caricom Secretariat.
“The engagement via the High Commission of India has been with respect to the purchase of Covishield, in the amount of 250,000 doses.
"We’re well aware with respect to two other countries there has arisen the issue of some sort of free provision. We’ve received no correspondence or offer from India with respect to the provision of same to TT."
But he added, "Based on media reports and what has already transpired, there are discussions under way, and we would not preclude any additional provision of vaccines above and beyond what we are seeking to purchase via the SII.”
Browne said TT has been extremely proactive with respect to the exploration and acquisition of covid19 vaccines. He said he has also met with the ambassadors of Germany and France and had extensive discussions with the High Commission of Canada to support the Health Ministry’s efforts to acquire vaccines for TT.
It was because the government of Barbados received a gift of 100,000 doses of the vaccine that it was able to give this country an initial 2,000 doses, which have been used for administration to frontline health workers.
Browne explained, “With respect to the donation/gift of vaccines between the governments of India and Barbados, that was not a Caricom arrangement, that was a direct arrangement, the details of which have not been shared at this point.
"That has caused no rift between the governments of India and TT. The fact that Barbados, with an extremely serious local crisis on their shores, chose to then share that donated amount with other countries such as TT has been heralded as another sign of closeness that exists within Caricom and a sign of the strengthening regional integration.
"I don’t want the issue of the gift of 100,000 vaccines to one or two countries to preclude the reality that we are talking about the order of over a million vaccines over the next weeks and months, and during the course of 2021, that we are arranging to receive in this country.”
Browne said it was possible that in the future TT would have the opportunity to reciprocate the gift given by Barbados.
Ministry: Local distributors don't have the vaccine
In a release, the Health Ministry said that contrary to statements in the public domain, PAHO deals with member states and not third parties, middle-men or agents.
It said, “Vaccines from PAHO have always been consigned to the Ministry of Health (MoH) / NIPDEC and the same applies for the AstraZeneca vaccine. This vaccine is being supplied via the Covax facility, using the PAHO revolving fund as a procurement facility, as has been the practice for over 40 years.”
It said TT has signed off on the purchase of covid19 vaccines via the African Medical Supplies Platform (AMSP), which uses a similar purchasing and distribution philosophy to the Covax facility.
“AMSP has made available to Caricom states a block of 1.5 million doses of vaccines and has confirmed receipt of TT’s pre-order for 226,000 doses. Similar to the Covax facility, these vaccines are not consigned to any local distributor, as is also being erroneously said in the public domain. We urge the public to be wary of false information.”
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/24/browne ... -vaccines/
They ordered after they got exposed.Habit7 wrote:The GoRTT doesn't need to grovel and beg nor do we have to lie and claim that we are reeling. The GoRTT's main responsibility is put in place policies to lower our cases and they have been successful.
Nevertheless, GoRTT has ordered from India and other sources and whoever respond I am sure they will take it.Browne: Government proactive about getting covid19 vaccines
PAULA LINDO WEDNESDAY 24 FEBRUARY 2021
Caricom and Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne says the Serum Institute of India (SII) has said it is not in a position to accept further vaccine orders at this time.
He said this is only one of the avenues the government has explored in procuring covid19 vaccines.
Speaking at the Health Ministry’s media briefing on Wednesday, Browne addressed the issue of obtaining vaccines from India.
He said on February 4, a private-sector manufacturer from India offered Caricom member states, through the Caricom Secretariat, the opportunity to buy a vaccine called Covaxin, which has not yet received WHO approval.
“This information was passed on to the Health Ministry, who sought my ministry’s assistance to engage the Indian High Commission towards the purchase of Covishield (India's name for the AstraZeneca vaccine), because the information at that time was that it was due for approval by the WHO.
"Covishield was the vaccine which was approved on February 15, 2021.”
Browne said he conveyed the relevant information to the High Commission of India on the basis of the Health Ministry’s request, as well as writing to his counterpart in India, the Minister of External Affairs.
He said more recently, the TT Prime Minister corresponded with the Indian Prime Minister, all with regard to efforts to broaden the scope of vaccine availability beyond Covax and the African Union.
“There were some challenges with establishing communication with SII, the manufacturer of Covishield. The Indian High Commission clarified that the Indian government was in a position to assist with the export of vaccines to TT, but the purchase order must be made with the private sector, that is, the Serum Institute.
"I sought the assistance of Trinidad and Tobago’s High Commissioner in Delhi, Roger Gopaul, who was successful in reaching the SII, and unfortunately the response from them, the private-sector entity, was that SII is not in a position to accept any further orders for vaccine at this time.
"I met subsequently with the High Commission of India and conveyed this information.
"I want to make it clear that the Government of India has indicated to us that they will take all available measures, they will go the extra mile to secure the provision of Covishield vaccines for TT.”
He said there has been no offer of free vaccines from the Indian government, either directly to TT or through the Caricom Secretariat.
“The engagement via the High Commission of India has been with respect to the purchase of Covishield, in the amount of 250,000 doses.
"We’re well aware with respect to two other countries there has arisen the issue of some sort of free provision. We’ve received no correspondence or offer from India with respect to the provision of same to TT."
But he added, "Based on media reports and what has already transpired, there are discussions under way, and we would not preclude any additional provision of vaccines above and beyond what we are seeking to purchase via the SII.”
Browne said TT has been extremely proactive with respect to the exploration and acquisition of covid19 vaccines. He said he has also met with the ambassadors of Germany and France and had extensive discussions with the High Commission of Canada to support the Health Ministry’s efforts to acquire vaccines for TT.
It was because the government of Barbados received a gift of 100,000 doses of the vaccine that it was able to give this country an initial 2,000 doses, which have been used for administration to frontline health workers.
Browne explained, “With respect to the donation/gift of vaccines between the governments of India and Barbados, that was not a Caricom arrangement, that was a direct arrangement, the details of which have not been shared at this point.
"That has caused no rift between the governments of India and TT. The fact that Barbados, with an extremely serious local crisis on their shores, chose to then share that donated amount with other countries such as TT has been heralded as another sign of closeness that exists within Caricom and a sign of the strengthening regional integration.
"I don’t want the issue of the gift of 100,000 vaccines to one or two countries to preclude the reality that we are talking about the order of over a million vaccines over the next weeks and months, and during the course of 2021, that we are arranging to receive in this country.”
Browne said it was possible that in the future TT would have the opportunity to reciprocate the gift given by Barbados.
Ministry: Local distributors don't have the vaccine
In a release, the Health Ministry said that contrary to statements in the public domain, PAHO deals with member states and not third parties, middle-men or agents.
It said, “Vaccines from PAHO have always been consigned to the Ministry of Health (MoH) / NIPDEC and the same applies for the AstraZeneca vaccine. This vaccine is being supplied via the Covax facility, using the PAHO revolving fund as a procurement facility, as has been the practice for over 40 years.”
It said TT has signed off on the purchase of covid19 vaccines via the African Medical Supplies Platform (AMSP), which uses a similar purchasing and distribution philosophy to the Covax facility.
“AMSP has made available to Caricom states a block of 1.5 million doses of vaccines and has confirmed receipt of TT’s pre-order for 226,000 doses. Similar to the Covax facility, these vaccines are not consigned to any local distributor, as is also being erroneously said in the public domain. We urge the public to be wary of false information.”
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/24/browne ... -vaccines/
sMASH wrote:T&T, through Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne, began discussions about purchasing 250,000 orders of the vaccine on February 16, one day after the Serum Institute received Word Health Organisation (WHO) approval. Browne has written to his Indian counterpart, Dr S. Jaishankar, for help in getting the required export approval.
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:T&T, through Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne, began discussions about purchasing 250,000 orders of the vaccine on February 16, one day after the Serum Institute received Word Health Organisation (WHO) approval. Browne has written to his Indian counterpart, Dr S. Jaishankar, for help in getting the required export approval.
Come ZR, don't drag the flag for your plebs
zoom rader wrote:Dealings with any African countries should be avoided.
Even Tobago should be avoided
zoom rader wrote:Best they buy local from trevor searssMASH wrote:so they rather pay a pong and ah crore for ghana to relable it 'callalloo vaccine' to resell we the same ting?
dat making sense?
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:T&T, through Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne, began discussions about purchasing 250,000 orders of the vaccine on February 16, one day after the Serum Institute received Word Health Organisation (WHO) approval. Browne has written to his Indian counterpart, Dr S. Jaishankar, for help in getting the required export approval.
Come ZR, don't drag the flag for your plebs
Tunts7 say we eh need to "beg and grovel" but we take 2000 doses from Barbados (who got it for free), as if taking it second hand is somehow not accepting charity Word on FB from the red government tribe is that the injun Vaccine contains properties to halt African reproduction.De Dragon wrote:^^^
Mebbe LFD RFD PNM eh want no "Indian" vaccine to keep their dotish tribe in check?
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