anan@gmail.com

[TriniAutoMart]

This is just too funny. Fake emails being used and people still debating the legitimacy of the content?

Trinis too stupid for their own good.

The US dept of justice and the DPP seem to think otherwise

I must have missed that.
Please show where these parties have said that.

[rfari]

This is just too funny. Fake emails being used and people still debating the legitimacy of the content?

Trinis too stupid for their own good.

The US dept of justice and the DPP seem to think otherwise

I must have missed that.
Please show where these parties have said that.

Posted in the previous page

Excerpts from the press release

[4x4]

Oi Rfari...I hear you and nuff respect but the US Justice system will make decisions based on what is provided to them. None of know what was that. Let me put it this way, lets say it was me or you and somebody say we planning to kill somebody and for more than 2 years police investigating and for that period, we family, friends and villagers watching we cokey eye. We cyar get a job, a girlfriend or nuttin and most of all we didn't do nuttin. What you will do sit down and take that or do everything you can to clear the air?

[rfari]

Oi Rfari...I hear you and nuff respect but the US Justice system will make decisions based on what is provided to them. None of know what was that. Let me put it this way, lets say it was me or you and somebody say we planning to kill somebody and for more than 2 years police investigating and for that period, we family, friends and villagers watching we cokey eye. We cyar get a job, a girlfriend or nuttin and most of all we didn't do nuttin. What you will do sit down and take that or do everything you can to clear the air?

Yeah. Fair enough. I can agree that kamala et al are only human and are only trying to prove their innocence. Nothing wrong with that.

The way I see it is that the police investigation has a wider scope based on the us doj 's view and the dpp's office advice than kamala investigation into herself.

[rfari]

I believe that this is the article that has the letter from the doj to central authority. But the webpage not loading on my side
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/-Em ... &smobile=y

[TriniAutoMart]

This is just too funny. Fake emails being used and people still debating the legitimacy of the content?

Trinis too stupid for their own good.

The US dept of justice and the DPP seem to think otherwise

I must have missed that.
Please show where these parties have said that.

Posted in the previous page

Excerpts from the press release

Misconduct in Public Office = Rowley bringing fake emails to the Parliament and abusing his Parliamentary privilege to bring disrepute to members of the standing Government.

Investigation outside the four corners of the email = Investigate Rowley and find out who supplied him with his information. Then investigate these individuals and "confirm of refute" the email communications.

I see where you are coming from but "email communications" does not state categorically that it is the content of the email being disputed.

[eliteauto]

who is to determine the scope of the investigation? Be real in any other country with a serious security apparatus all info contained therein would be investigated

[rfari]

This is just too funny. Fake emails being used and people still debating the legitimacy of the content?

Trinis too stupid for their own good.

The US dept of justice and the DPP seem to think otherwise

I must have missed that.
Please show where these parties have said that.

Posted in the previous page

Excerpts from the press release

Misconduct in Public Office = Rowley bringing fake emails to the Parliament and abusing his Parliamentary privilege to bring disrepute to members of the standing Government.

Investigation outside the four corners of the email = Investigate Rowley and find out who supplied him with his information. Then investigate these individuals and "confirm of refute" the email communications.

I see where you are coming from but "email communications" does not state categorically that it is the content of the email being disputed.

Ahh good point. It could swing either way. If it is leaning towards laying blame on growley, then the police should give provisional clearance of wrong doing to kamala et al by saying that they are not under investigation.

I believe that this is the article that has the letter from the doj to central authority. But the webpage not loading on my side
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/-Em ... &smobile=y

See quote in bold

Emailgate questions remain 2 years later

By \\\\\ Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com
Story Created: May 5, 2015 at 10:01 PM ECT

Story Updated: May 5, 2015 at 10:01 PM ECT

Two years later the question remains: were the alleged emailgate exchanges true or not?

According to a letter from the United States Department of Justice, dated January 2015, one of the e-mail addresses—anan@gmail.com—purported to have been involved in the scandalous exchanges does not exist.

In the letter, acting Director Mary D Rodriguez wrote to Netram Kowlessar, head of the Central Authority in the Ministry of the Attorney General, in response to a request for assistance in the investigations.

The letter was enclosed with a computer disk and certificate of authenticity from Google, Inc with information on the e-mail addresses which were named in the controversy.

The computer disk contains information regarding Google accounts anand@tstt.net.tt, kamlapb1@gmail.com and roodal@tstt.net.tt.

These e-mail addresses are valid and belong to former attorney general Anand Ramlogan, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and Housing Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal.

According to the US ­Department of Justice, one of the ­e-mail addresses, anan@gmail.com, does not exist.

“Google stated there is no responsive information for any Google account with the e-mail address of anan@gmail.com,” stated the letter.

The letter stated the information contained on the computer disks may be used in the investigation and prosecution of those people, and offences for which assistance was requested and granted.

This information from the US Department of State is currently in the hands of the police, who are conducting investigations into the matter which, exactly two years later, is back in the Parliament—this time the Government moving a motion of censure against the Opposition Leader for having brought unsubstantiated documents to the House which made serious allegations against high office holders.

The motion calls for censure against Rowley for his reckless, unsubstantiated and scandalous allegations, and further calls for his suspension from the House for the remainder of the session.

Parliament will automatically dissolve by June 16.

How emailgate started


In May 2013, Rowley, during his motion of no confidence against the People’s Partnership Government and the Prime Minister, disclosed the contents of 31 e-mails purporting to be exchanges between Persad-Bissessar, then-attorney general Ramlogan, former minister of local government Surujrattan Rambachan and then-national security adviser to the Prime Minister Gary Griffith.

The e-mails alleged these high office-­holders were conspiring to harm a journalist; plant electronic spying devices in the Office of the DPP; offer the DPP a judgeship; and to accept payment from an unnamed woman in exchange for the freedom of people involved in the Section 34 fiasco in September 2012.

Persad-Bissessar, on political platforms, has repeatedly called on the police to wrap up the probe into this e-mail scandal.

The Prime Minister has said the Google records provided to her attorneys reveal there were no such exchanges as alleged from her e-mail account.

In March this year, Williams, in a news release, disclosed the police had received “voluminous information” from Google, as requested by the Central Authority.

“The information contained in the communication is voluminous in nature and the alleged e-mails are being analysed by the TTPS (Police Service) to determine their ­authenticity,” the release stated.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=tt

[dougla_boy]

And to say that they 'not clear' means just that. It doesn't mean that they guilty

THIS!!!

[rfari]

Growley send pre-action protocol letter to kamala for claims made on her social media accnts. She has till Monday to backpedal

[Rory Phoulorie]

They fraid Kamla...She take care of Jack, Patos, Ramesh, Sharma, Ramadharsingh, Partap, Mary King, Anand, Griffith et at....she don't play. . .

When is she going to deal with Moonilal, Rambachan and Gopeesingh? She dealt with the wrong set, well, with the exception of Warner.

Rambachan was interviewed on Power 102FM this morning. One set of rubbish he was spewing out about respecting the Office of the DPP, then inferring that there is political motive in the statement put out by the Deputy DPP, then saying that he never inferred or stated anything as such. The guys at Power 102FM were speechless at the end of the interview.

[bluefete]

So AG Garvin Nicholas waded into the Deputy DPP today by accusing her of conspiring with the PNM and the labour movement when she said that Kamla and Anand have not been cleared in the e-mailgate affair.

Ms. Joan Honore-Paul has more balls (in delicate language - cojones - take your pick) than all the men in the PP and the PNM!!!!!

[4x4]

Wow is real attack on Kamla from all sides. Poor lady. This is the biggest gang up I ever see. Whos who of political failures jamming from a side. How much of them studying we. Do you all realize that every single member of Parliament is a millionaire? All ah them living large. Eating good, sleeping good, driving good, travelling good. Chirren future all planned out and look at we. Wukking hard and going nowhere and we contented. Right now my van engine mash up and ah cyar even save up the money to buy parts to fix it. Life is good.

[Rory Phoulorie]

Wow is real attack on Kamla from all sides. Poor lady. This is the biggest gang up I ever see. Whos who of political failures jamming from a side. . .

Like you listened intently to the Rambachan interview today? He was saying that 6 men ganging up on one poor woman from Siparia. Aunty Kamala is not, or chooses not, to deal with the people who really need to be dealt with in the UNC.

[rfari]

Wow is real attack on Kamla from all sides. Poor lady. This is the biggest gang up I ever see. Whos who of political failures jamming from a side. How much of them studying we. Do you all realize that every single member of Parliament is a millionaire? All ah them living large. Eating good, sleeping good, driving good, travelling good. Chirren future all planned out and look at we. Wukking hard and going nowhere and we contented. Right now my van engine mash up and ah cyar even save up the money to buy parts to fix it. Life is good.

Hmmmm. So you think we should give her the ease up and stop ganging up on her? Try to be a bit more understanding and compassionate to her?

[rfari]

Kamla say that she feels vindicated by the dpp press release. No worries fellas. Everything is ok. The emails are fake

[rfari]

Volney sell the ordi yet? UNC better link him a new euro with over 3.2l displacement rell quick. Because just now investigators gonna come and try to squeeze he borls wrt section 34. And the last ting UNC want is for that fatbitch to squeal and say how the narcolink was squeezing kamala neck to free ish and steve

[janfar]

Lol... no government doing anything to anyone. Everyone in someone pocket. Doesnt matter who in power. We dont have ppl with balls.

[trichards80]

The PM showed that the Deputy DPP supports what her letter was saying all along. The emails are FAKE FAKE FAKE! Why is it taking the police so long?

[Numb3r4]

Great is the PNM! I guess?

[Daran]

This question might be a couple years late, but back then I took one read and assumed it fake due to the cheesy email handles (obvious fakes) as well as the movie like script.

But given than the only email common to all us Anand's why is no one debating the unethical practice of hacking and breech of privacy here? It is clear why the deny the emails being real, but really no in the media is talking about the fact that the so called 'whistleblower' is a criminal which should also be a crime to prosecuted.

This is a dangerous precedent being set here.

[rfari]

This question might be a couple years late, but back then I took one read and assumed it fake due to the cheesy email handles (obvious fakes) as well as the movie like script.

But given than the only email common to all us Anand's why is no one debating the unethical practice of hacking and breech of privacy here? It is clear why the deny the emails being real, but really no in the media is talking about the fact that the so called 'whistleblower' is a criminal which should also be a crime to prosecuted.

This is a dangerous precedent being set here.

Ask yourself where does the greater good exist (assuming that the allegations are true. Just for the purposes of my point)? Email privacy or exposing the misdeeds

[Daran]

This question might be a couple years late, but back then I took one read and assumed it fake due to the cheesy email handles (obvious fakes) as well as the movie like script.

But given than the only email common to all us Anand's why is no one debating the unethical practice of hacking and breech of privacy here? It is clear why the deny the emails being real, but really no in the media is talking about the fact that the so called 'whistleblower' is a criminal which should also be a crime to prosecuted.

This is a dangerous precedent being set here.

[UML]

[quote="eliteauto"]















just about sums it up

[rfari]

Nobody cleared. So why the gun get jumped and growley banished from parliament?

[dougla_boy]

Nobody cleared. So why the gun get jumped and growley banished from parliament?

political tyranny

[rfari]

Wade mark just shot down the attempt by jw to reinstate growley

[K74T]

Great is the PNM! I guess?

Yes! and it shall prevail.

[4x4]

We keep saying that nobody was cleared. You only need to clear them if they are charged. Nobody is charged with anything. As it is now, everybody is in the clear except Rowlie who has accused and must prove. But he decides to pelt a lash and run. We are all innocent until proven guilty. I am telling you if the shoe was on the odder foot, we would not like it. This is now the fmailgate affair. Like it or not these were very poorly constructed fakes and any attempt to derive a conclusion of misconduct in a court will not stand up and will only put more money in the defendants coffers. Rowlie should just apologise and he will stand a better chance.

[Bezman]

...Nobody is charged with anything. As it is now, everybody is in the clear except Rowlie...

So if no body has been charged, and everybody in the clear... how come except Rowley?? He has not been charged.. with anything... he didn't write or construct the emails and has always been very careful to state as such.. so he by that, has not lied about its content, as he was simply reading the info..

...I am telling you if the shoe was on the odder foot, we would not like it....

well the proverbial shoe is on the other foot and some don't like the smell either