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Which major party will you be voting for in G.E. 2015?

Poll ended at April 9th, 2014, 7:52 pm

People's National Movement
100
26%
People's Partnership
205
53%
Independent Liberal Party
7
2%
Neither/Abstain
76
20%
 
Total votes: 388

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby rfari » November 9th, 2015, 7:01 pm

SAMs
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Bachelors degree optional

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby LeRobot » November 9th, 2015, 7:49 pm

rfari wrote:SAMs
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Bachelors degree optional


Well that is far from impressive, but then again unless you're from a top 20 Uni, most MBA's are a pretty pitiful generic degree better done for networking and checking that MBA box, than for gaining any real skills.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Numb3r4 » November 10th, 2015, 10:42 am

^^^ Just wanted to know.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby fallen_angel » November 15th, 2015, 3:05 pm

what goin on with sarah lisa budhu now?

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby boxy » November 15th, 2015, 3:08 pm

Still bess

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby fallen_angel » November 15th, 2015, 3:38 pm

She married yet?

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby zoom rader » November 15th, 2015, 5:26 pm

fallen_angel wrote:She married yet?


Wuking for the BBC, was the last report

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby EmilioA » November 15th, 2015, 6:28 pm

zoom rader wrote:
fallen_angel wrote:She married yet?


Wuking for the BBC, was the last report


Somebody fixated.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby desifemlove » November 15th, 2015, 11:54 pm

she a senator.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Habit7 » November 30th, 2015, 1:04 pm

Election petitions gets green light
Appeal Court rules in favour of UNC

Published: Monday, November 30, 2015

The Appeal Court in a majority ruling has paved the way for the United National Congress (UNC) six election petitions — challenging the Election and Boundaries Commission (EBC) decision to extend the voting time by one hour in Trinidad for the September 7 general election — to go full speed ahead.

The ruling means that the UNC will now have to provide cogent and credible evidence before a High Court judge to show that it was significantly disadvantaged and the EBC decision affected the results.

The PNM assumed office with 23 seats while the UNC retained 18.

Chief Justice Ivor Archie voted against the grant of leave while his colleagues, Allan Mendonca and Peter Jamadar, ruled in favour of the UNC. Both the EBC and the People’s National Movement (PNM) had challenged the decision of High Court judge Mira Dean-Armorer to approve the election petitions.

The UNC filed the election petitions for six constituencies—La Horquetta/Talparo, Toco/Sangre Grande, Tunapuna, St Joseph, Moruga/Tableland and San Fernando West within a week of its loss in the general election.

In its petitions, the party is claiming that the EBC acted illegally when it took the decision to extend the polls to 7 pm because of bad weather and traffic. The UNC also argued that the late notice was not properly communicated to voters.

The EBC denied any wrongdoing and is contending that it acted within its remit.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-11- ... favour-unc

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby zoom rader » November 30th, 2015, 1:09 pm

^^^ Does not matter, as EBC and the PNM can't do what it's likes where the rule of law is concerned.


We now have a potential illegal government

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Trinispougla » November 30th, 2015, 1:28 pm

I really dont see this having any success. The pp lost by some heavy margins in four of the six constituencies. OVER 3500 IN TUNAPUNA, over 4 thousand in toco sangre-grande, over 3500 in tunapuna, over 4 thousand in sando west. But this is a strange land and stranger things have happened

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Chimera » November 30th, 2015, 1:45 pm

since election the party fall apart lol what really going to go on now

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby zoom rader » November 30th, 2015, 1:49 pm

Trinispougla wrote:I really dont see this having any success. The pp lost by some heavy margins in four of the six constituencies. OVER 3500 IN TUNAPUNA, over 4 thousand in toco sangre-grande, over 3500 in tunapuna, over 4 thousand in sando west. But this is a strange land and stranger things have happened


It's not a matter of success.
It's to make sure that the EBC and the PNM Can't do as they please where the rule of law is concerned.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby desifemlove » November 30th, 2015, 2:06 pm

zoom rader wrote:^^^ Does not matter, as EBC and the PNM can't do what it's likes where the rule of law is concerned.


We now have a potential illegal government

Evidence is scant. and no evidence of any collusion.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby desifemlove » November 30th, 2015, 2:08 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Trinispougla wrote:I really dont see this having any success. The pp lost by some heavy margins in four of the six constituencies. OVER 3500 IN TUNAPUNA, over 4 thousand in toco sangre-grande, over 3500 in tunapuna, over 4 thousand in sando west. But this is a strange land and stranger things have happened


It's not a matter of success.
It's to make sure that the EBC and the PNM Can't do as they please where the rule of law is concerned.

but ent Kams's plan to get back in office and discredit PNM to say "dey got ting by fraud!"? if they rule to clarify how EBC annonuce ting, then this plan won't work.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby zoom rader » November 30th, 2015, 2:13 pm

desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Trinispougla wrote:I really dont see this having any success. The pp lost by some heavy margins in four of the six constituencies. OVER 3500 IN TUNAPUNA, over 4 thousand in toco sangre-grande, over 3500 in tunapuna, over 4 thousand in sando west. But this is a strange land and stranger things have happened


It's not a matter of success.
It's to make sure that the EBC and the PNM Can't do as they please where the rule of law is concerned.

but ent Kams's plan to get back in office and discredit PNM to say "dey got ting by fraud!"? if they rule to clarify how EBC annonuce ting, then this plan won't work.


This is not a plan
It's about maintaining the rule of law.
This must never happen again. EBC and PNM Can not do as they please

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby desifemlove » November 30th, 2015, 2:23 pm

so why she having this then? why she organise it? and spend top money on dis UK barrister? She clearly wanna discredit Rowley like in e-mailgate and say he fraud. and she wanna get back as PM, hence why she bustin a gut to keep she leadership. even if she only get 21 seats, that enough for she.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Trinispougla » November 30th, 2015, 2:31 pm

zoom rader wrote:
desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Trinispougla wrote:I really dont see this having any success. The pp lost by some heavy margins in four of the six constituencies. OVER 3500 IN TUNAPUNA, over 4 thousand in toco sangre-grande, over 3500 in tunapuna, over 4 thousand in sando west. But this is a strange land and stranger things have happened


It's not a matter of success.
It's to make sure that the EBC and the PNM Can't do as they please where the rule of law is concerned.

but ent Kams's plan to get back in office and discredit PNM to say "dey got ting by fraud!"? if they rule to clarify how EBC annonuce ting, then this plan won't work.


This is not a plan
It's about maintaining the rule of law.
This must never happen again. EBC and PNM Can not do as they please

This has nothing to do with rule of law. The fact is they're seeking an annulment of the election results in 6 marginals chief. If the shoe was on the other foot, there would be no rule of law argument. Nobody would have been going to the courts to verify the powers of the ebc. As i said, the numbers in 4 of the marginals are pretty damming, i can't see them securing an annulment but as i also said, stranger things have happened

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby zoom rader » November 30th, 2015, 8:07 pm

Trinispougla wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Trinispougla wrote:I really dont see this having any success. The pp lost by some heavy margins in four of the six constituencies. OVER 3500 IN TUNAPUNA, over 4 thousand in toco sangre-grande, over 3500 in tunapuna, over 4 thousand in sando west. But this is a strange land and stranger things have happened


It's not a matter of success.
It's to make sure that the EBC and the PNM Can't do as they please where the rule of law is concerned.

but ent Kams's plan to get back in office and discredit PNM to say "dey got ting by fraud!"? if they rule to clarify how EBC annonuce ting, then this plan won't work.


This is not a plan
It's about maintaining the rule of law.
This must never happen again. EBC and PNM Can not do as they please

This has nothing to do with rule of law. The fact is they're seeking an annulment of the election results in 6 marginals chief. If the shoe was on the other foot, there would be no rule of law argument. Nobody would have been going to the courts to verify the powers of the ebc. As i said, the numbers in 4 of the marginals are pretty damming, i can't see them securing an annulment but as i also said, stranger things have happened


It has nothing to do if the shoe was on the other foot and marginals.

It's make sure that the EBC and PNM Dont ever pull a stunt like this again.
It can happen to any other party

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby EmilioA » November 30th, 2015, 8:35 pm

I wonder what Zoom Raider go say if the Court rules that what the EBC did was completely legal.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Trinispougla » November 30th, 2015, 8:43 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Trinispougla wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Trinispougla wrote:I really dont see this having any success. The pp lost by some heavy margins in four of the six constituencies. OVER 3500 IN TUNAPUNA, over 4 thousand in toco sangre-grande, over 3500 in tunapuna, over 4 thousand in sando west. But this is a strange land and stranger things have happened


It's not a matter of success.
It's to make sure that the EBC and the PNM Can't do as they please where the rule of law is concerned.

but ent Kams's plan to get back in office and discredit PNM to say "dey got ting by fraud!"? if they rule to clarify how EBC annonuce ting, then this plan won't work.


This is not a plan
It's about maintaining the rule of law.
This must never happen again. EBC and PNM Can not do as they please

This has nothing to do with rule of law. The fact is they're seeking an annulment of the election results in 6 marginals chief. If the shoe was on the other foot, there would be no rule of law argument. Nobody would have been going to the courts to verify the powers of the ebc. As i said, the numbers in 4 of the marginals are pretty damming, i can't see them securing an annulment but as i also said, stranger things have happened


It has nothing to do if the shoe was on the other foot and marginals.

It's make sure that the EBC and PNM Dont ever pull a stunt like this again.
It can happen to any other party

ZR, yuh really think if they had won, we wudda had did drama Patna? But anyway, as i said, proving that the result would have been different in those marginals save morouga going to be rell difficult. Even if they get 1000 sworn statements in five of the six, it would not prove anything as the defeats in the next five was very heavy. But i agree with you, the ebc rwally does need clarification on its remit and powers.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Sanctifier » November 30th, 2015, 10:14 pm

QUESTION: How come the extra hour for voting was only "illegal" in 6 marginal seats according to the UNC?...
If the Image "rule of law" excuse is valid for 6 marginals, then it should be true for ALL other constituencies in Trinidad... Not so?

With the UNC in disarray with old allies now open enemies... and the "late" COP like "used" toilet paper... the PM should call a snap Election if the UNC wins. There will never be a better opportunity to strengthen their position.
Habit7 wrote:"Be careful what you ask for... YOU MIGHT GET IT!"... Image
Possible 2016 ELECTION RESULTS (after irritating the electorate even more with Budget revelations)...
PNM = 31... UNC = 10... Total PNM constitutional majority in Parliament... Image
"Election defeat #6" for Kamla to stick in her chillum an' smoke!... :rofl:

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Postby desifemlove » November 30th, 2015, 10:48 pm

I think cos kams said she ent afford to do it for all 41 seats, so the six seats is enough.

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Postby Sanctifier » November 30th, 2015, 10:55 pm

^ ^ ^ That's EXACTLY what I mean... With the UNC coffers empty... and no more help from Jack, SIS et al... then no more Image on Election Ads... :lol:

Now is the PERFECT time to attack with a snap Election to reinforce the PNM's position.
No more Image obstructionist "opposition for the sake of opposing" in Parliament.

The Caribbean Court of Justice... Referendum legislation... whatever else is necessary to protect us in these hard times.

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Postby Trinispougla » November 30th, 2015, 10:56 pm

Sanctifier wrote:QUESTION: How come the extra hour for voting was only "illegal" in 6 marginal seats according to the UNC?...
If the Image "rule of law" excuse is valid for 6 marginals, then it should be true for ALL other constituencies in Trinidad... Not so?

With the UNC in disarray with old allies now open enemies... and the "late" COP like "used" toilet paper... the PM should call a snap Election if the UNC wins. There will never be a better opportunity to strengthen their position.
Habit7 wrote:"Be careful what you ask for... YOU MIGHT GET IT!"... Image
Possible 2016 ELECTION RESULTS (after irritating the electorate even more with Budget revelations)...
PNM = 31... UNC = 10... Total PNM constitutional majority in Parliament... Image
"Election defeat #6" for Kamla to stick in her chillum an' smoke!... :rofl:

Idk bout that eh de boss. Rowley and Julian trying to solve the gas problem(our biggest issue) and imbert trying to balance de budget but one of the main drivers behind our ecomy is being hijacked by a micro managing ps who not even signing contracts for professional staff. Its not energy or utilities but it have serious problems.

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Postby Sanctifier » November 30th, 2015, 11:10 pm

PS's will come... and PS's will go... or transferred if they prove to be deliberately obstructing legitimate Gov't policies.

This is NOT a 'micro' issue... but a political one, with the PM facing a stupid, obstructionist opposition. To paraphrase an old saying...
The best means of defence... is a strong offence!

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Postby Trinispougla » November 30th, 2015, 11:11 pm

Although a underused statistic in this whole drama is that the UNC has never won an election by themselves. They have always won in coalition with somebody else and what is taking place during the internal elections are promises by the canidates to broaden their appeal.
1987-NAR
1995-griffith and a next dude cross to give them the two seats required to win
2010- COP was viewed as a buffer against excesses of the larger partner and hence the landslide. COP has no attraction anymore so the unc is left sith its 18 base seats

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Postby Sanctifier » November 30th, 2015, 11:15 pm

^ ^ ^ They better not get too complacent with those 18 so-called "safe seats!"
Check the votes for a few of those "safe" UNC seats and see what really happened on the ground after Kamla & Rodney shoved candidates down their supporters' throats.
Faud Khan and a couple others get away by the skin of their teeth. :lol:

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Habit7 » November 30th, 2015, 11:46 pm

UNC could lose out in election challenge

Published: Tuesday, December 1, 2015

The latest challenge to the Elections Results 2015 is expected by the losing party. As the calypso says, the winner always say that the Judges were right.

It is not my intention to decide if the Elections and Boundaries Commission was right or wrong in the interpretation of the law. I am not qualified to interpret the law, which is legal sense. But I do have a level head and common sense.

In my opinion, the EBC should have consulted the two main parties at the very least (three since the ILP nominated more than 21 candidates) and if possible, the Political Leaders of the other fringe parties. Consensus should have been obtained before announcing the one-hour extension because the PNM or UNC (who-ever is the loser) would be expected to challenge the results. Instead, the EBC acted on its own (or so we think) and we now have a legal challenge that will be expensive to the taxpayer. We are now at the stage of the legal battle that will be drawn out and again I repeat, expensive to the taxpayer. The UNC is challenging the results in six constituencies:

Moruga/Tableland Margin of 533 = 2.5% of voters

St Joseph Margin of 1633 =8.4% of voters

La Horquetta/Talparo margin of 2815 =15.6% ofvoters

San Fernando West margin of 3310 = 19.6% of

voters

Tunapuna margin of 3615 = 19.2% of

voters

Toco/Sangre Grande margin of 3904 = 19.4% of

voters

Using the principle of level head and common sense, the average hourly vote in twelve hours is 8.33% and it is not expected that more than 16.66% of voters will be present in that last extra hour. Otherwise there will be a long line after 07.00pm. But each will have their opinion.

In the end the courts will first have to decide if the EBC had the right to extend the Elections 2015 by one hour. If the Courts decide that the EBC does not have such right, then all seats with a margin of victory of less than 3904 votes and won by the UNC must also be declared null and void. These seats include:

Barataria/San Juan—540

Chaguanas East— 1424

Pointe-a-Pierre— 1506

Mayaro— 2894

Cumuto/Manzanilla—3179

Fyzabad— 3802

The High Court must fast-track the decision and bring this to quick end.

Philip Ayoung-Chee

http://www.guardian.co.tt/letters/2015- ... -challenge

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