The Religion Discussion

RBphoto · Postby **RBphoto** » August 22nd, 2012, 3:13 pm

MG Man wrote:I met him in a back alley............I stabbed him and he died.........

You know... somewhere on page 1, I wished that this comment would relegate this thread to the dustbin of tuner.... it did not

AdamB · Postby **AdamB** » August 24th, 2012, 12:13 am

crossdrilled wrote:
MG Man wrote:I met him in a back alley............I stabbed him and he died.........

You know... somewhere on page 1, I wished that this comment would relegate this thread to the dustbin of tuner.... it did not

That's like trying to bury something but you keep filling the hole with water. The effect is that the object to be buried keeps floating to the top.

BUMP!!!

Postby **Duane 3NE 2NR** » August 24th, 2012, 12:26 am

^ since you are bumping, you didnt answer my question above

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
AdamB wrote: then you should look for sources that have the answer from GOD, sources that would be credible in terms of reporting what GOD said.
what makes such a source credible?

what makes one source credible and another not credible?

faith alone?

Chimera · Postby **Chimera** » August 24th, 2012, 12:34 am

The men who write the book claiming that Allah write it, say so .

Duh

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 24th, 2012, 12:35 am

So if allah is not here, there and everywhere...how does he/she/it exist?...surpassing the laws of physics or physics is something the kufar invented? :roll:

So basically muslims believe in a god that, doesn't "exist"?

Christianity holds more validity, at least their god floats around the sky all day.

AdamB · Postby **AdamB** » August 24th, 2012, 10:10 pm

pioneer wrote:So if allah is not here, there and everywhere...how does he/she/it exist?...surpassing the laws of physics or physics is something the kufar invented?

So basically muslims believe in a god that, doesn't "exist"?

Christianity holds more validity, at least their god floats around the sky all day. Can you provide evidence of this?

Allah (subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa) IS NOT IN NEED!! FULL STOP.

He is not in need of us,
not in need of our worship,
not in need of our obedience to HIM,
not in need of a wife or a son,
not in need of the Universe FOR HIM TO EXIST,
NOT IN NEED OF HIS ENTIRE CREATION FOR HIS EXISTENCE!!
NOT IN NEED OF LOWERING HIMSELF TO OUR LEVEL,
NOT IN NEED OF RAISING US TO HIS LEVEL,
NOT IN NEED OF US TO SLAUGHTER HIM IN ORDER FOR US TO BE SAVED!

It is man's deficiency in understanding and pride that some of mankind cannot imagine that anything is possible for ALLAH, for HE is able to do ALL THINGS!!

A man ask a question of "WHERE IS GOD?", no other religion provided an answer except the religion of Islam!! So what is all the hooo haaa about?

AdamB · Postby **AdamB** » August 24th, 2012, 10:16 pm

Maybe MajTom can tell us what existed before the BIG BANG. Pioneer seems to think that it is not possible for anything to exist before the existence of the Universe. So what CAUSED the BIG BANG in the first place?

If the Universe is expanding, WHERE IS IT EXPANDING TO? Duane?

sMASH · Postby **sMASH** » August 24th, 2012, 11:16 pm

^^ they are still investigating, and still gathering and analyzing information. there are a few theories tossed around, but still under deliberation.

quite an interesting time to be around.

Kasey · Postby **Kasey** » August 25th, 2012, 12:17 am

AdamB wrote:Maybe MajTom can tell us what existed before the BIG BANG thats exactly like asking where god was before he was here?. Pioneer seems to think that it is not possible for anything to exist before the existence of the Universethats like thinking what existed before god. So what CAUSED the BIG BANG in the first place?thats like asking what caused god?

If the Universe is expanding, WHERE IS IT EXPANDING TO? Duane?thats like asking how far is God's reach?

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 25th, 2012, 1:31 am

So the simple answer to "where" is your god is that he is nowhere really?

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 25th, 2012, 1:34 am

"hands that help do more than hands that pray"

:pwned:

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 25th, 2012, 1:38 am

Prayer brings comfort to so many people....

So do drugs.

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » August 25th, 2012, 5:58 am

hilarious

nareshseep · Postby **nareshseep** » August 25th, 2012, 12:34 pm

Common sense can be right in front people face, but they choose to close thier eyes.

Kasey · Postby **Kasey** » August 25th, 2012, 4:10 pm

three against one.......BUT it was obvious who had their head on....

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » August 25th, 2012, 6:37 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ since you are bumping, you didnt answer my question above

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
AdamB wrote: then you should look for sources that have the answer from GOD, sources that would be credible in terms of reporting what GOD said.
what makes such a source credible?

what makes one source credible and another not credible?

faith alone?

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 26th, 2012, 3:09 am

adam etc could you all respond to the lil vid i posted?...post in YOUR own words please...copypasta won't really help

I was always told allah (god) causes natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes...an imam told me an earthquake happens because allah holds the world and shakes it...he also said thunder and lightnin is the wrath of god...tellin his people he is not happy with them...

Soooo...if god causes all those things...why doesn't he stop it?...why he didn't stop so many muslims being slaughtered in bosnia, iraq, afghanistan etc etc?

pls respond

AdamB · Postby **AdamB** » August 26th, 2012, 6:12 pm

pioneer wrote:So if allah is not here, there and everywhere...how does he/she/it exist?...surpassing the laws of physics or physics is something the kufar invented?

So basically muslims believe in a god that, doesn't "exist"?

Christianity holds more validity, at least their god floats around the sky all day.

One more time, muslims believe in an ALMIGHTY GOD who DOES NOT NEED A MAKAAN, (CREATED) PLACE IN WHICH TO BE LOCATED.
THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE, DEAL WITH IT!!

Postby **Duane 3NE 2NR** » August 26th, 2012, 7:29 pm

no answer for my question?

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 26th, 2012, 7:35 pm

AdamB wrote:
pioneer wrote:So if allah is not here, there and everywhere...how does he/she/it exist?...surpassing the laws of physics or physics is something the kufar invented?

So basically muslims believe in a god that, doesn't "exist"?

Christianity holds more validity, at least their god floats around the sky all day.

One more time, muslims believe in an ALMIGHTY GOD who DOES NOT NEED A MAKAAN, (CREATED) PLACE IN WHICH TO BE LOCATED.
THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE, DEAL WITH IT!!

So a god that has no existence relative to place and time, where exactly do muslims go when they "return to god" i.e. when they die/day of judgement or whatever. Do muslims only go back to god after day of judgement when god destroys the earth and all existence? So what have they been doing from time of death till then, chilling in a grave?

Anyhow...

adam etc could you all respond to the lil vid i posted?...post in YOUR own words please...copypasta won't really help

I was always told allah (god) causes natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes...an imam told me an earthquake happens because allah holds the world and shakes it...he also said thunder and lightnin is the wrath of god...tellin his people he is not happy with them...

Soooo...if god causes all those things...why doesn't he stop it?...why he didn't stop so many muslims being slaughtered in bosnia, iraq, afghanistan etc etc?

pls respond

bluefete · Postby **bluefete** » August 26th, 2012, 7:39 pm

sMASH"]in islam, we are taught that god is separate from from his creation. the world that we know, physical, tangible, the universe as we conceive it, is below the 7 heavens or firmaments. each being successively and significantly larger than the other, like a stone being compared to a desert. after the 7th heaven is supposed to be the foot stool of god, then after that is the throne, and then god is above the throne. the throne to the footstool to the 7th heaven are also proportioned the same way.

other religions may teach different things

It is amazing how much Islam mirrors Christianity.

Postby **Duane 3NE 2NR** » August 26th, 2012, 8:29 pm

Why does God have use of a throne and a footstool?

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » August 26th, 2012, 10:40 pm

cuz he's awesome like that

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » August 26th, 2012, 10:42 pm

bluefete wrote:
sMASH"]in islam, we are taught that god is separate from from his creation. the world that we know, physical, tangible, the universe as we conceive it, is below the 7 heavens or firmaments. each being successively and significantly larger than the other, like a stone being compared to a desert. after the 7th heaven is supposed to be the foot stool of god, then after that is the throne, and then god is above the throne. the throne to the footstool to the 7th heaven are also proportioned the same way.

other religions may teach different things

It is amazing how much Islam mirrors Christianity.

now u know why adamb et al are so good at copy / paste :p

AdamB · Postby **AdamB** » August 26th, 2012, 11:10 pm

stev wrote:
AdamB wrote:So if you are looking for answers from religions, then you should look for sources that have the answer from GOD, sources that would be credible in terms of reporting what GOD said.

and what do u suggest is a credible source?

The credible (trustworthy) source is ALMIGHTY GOD and what HE has sent down as REVELATION to Mankind, the HOLY QUR'AAN.

Check it out for yourself. Anyone can download a copy of the English translation of the Quran from the internet.
http://www.iqrasearch.com/en4146.pdf

http://www.allahsquran.com/authenticity ... _quran.php

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 26th, 2012, 11:22 pm

But adam islam has a fundamental flaw because the koran claims mohammed ascended to the (how many?) heavens...clearly the word ascend according to a child's dictionary means to go up...rise to a higher point.

So according to what I was told, he left the cave he was in (on planet earth) and ascended to the heavens...so it tells me he went up...into the sky...where he met god...

I thought muslims say god or heaven isn't in the sky?

Or was there some hypothetical theory behind this which wasn't translated for us human plebs to understand?

brb contradictions

AdamB · Postby **AdamB** » August 26th, 2012, 11:27 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Why does God have use of a throne and a footstool?

Try asking that to the ONE who owns it and has encompassed it!!

All Created things has a purpose, a purpose not without wisdom.

pioneer · Postby **pioneer** » August 26th, 2012, 11:28 pm

What kinda drugs do you take, and where can I get some?

AdamB · Postby **AdamB** » August 26th, 2012, 11:56 pm

pioneer wrote:But adam islam has a fundamental flaw because the koran claims mohammed ascended to the (how many?) heavens...clearly the word ascend according to a child's dictionary means to go up...rise to a higher point.

So according to what I was told, he left the cave he was in (on planet earth) and ascended to the heavens...so it tells me he went up...into the sky...where he met god...

I thought muslims say god or heaven isn't in the sky?

Or was there some hypothetical theory behind this which wasn't translated for us human plebs to understand?

brb contradictions

It depends on the definition of SKY.

There was a night journey from Mecca to Jerusalem and then he ascended to the heavens. He accurately described Jerusalem to the people. Allah knows best if it was a physical or spiritual journey or both.