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Who do you believe will win General Elections 2025?

Poll ended at April 28th, 2025, 9:17 pm

People's National Movement (PNM)
23
48%
United National Congress (UNC) + Coalition of Interests (PEP, COP, OWTU, LOVE)
21
44%
Patriotic Front (PF)
2
4%
Tie/Deadlock
2
4%
 
Total votes: 48

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Postby onroad » December 24th, 2024, 3:45 pm

GA prolly Jess securing his forex access.

How was the mall lime with pea?

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Postby DMan7 » December 24th, 2024, 4:04 pm

All these old wealthy people quarrelling and regular people suffering is what I'm seeing from all this back and forth on social media between these clowns. The average person on social media is looking at all this and rolling their eyes and is one of the major reasons people are fed up of politicians and the 1% and not going to give these people their votes.

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Postby zoom rader » December 24th, 2024, 5:14 pm

DMan7 wrote:All these old wealthy people quarrelling and regular people suffering is what I'm seeing from all this back and forth on social media between these clowns. The average person on social media is looking at all this and rolling their eyes and is one of the major reasons people are fed up of politicians and the 1% and not going to give these people their votes.
Wealthy ppl vs average Joe,

https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/_d7yZW029

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Postby paid_influencer » December 24th, 2024, 6:09 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Gary Aboud against Phillip and the UNC


I watch all them videos and feel like I want my time back. Completely irrelevant personal crap being put out into the public. The original video by Gary Aboud was a particularly rough watch because that fella doh have anywhere near enough charisma to pull off what he is trying to pull off. I won't recommend anybody watch those videos because it boring and useless.

What bothers me most is the term "1%" being killed. The term originally came from the Occupy Wall Street movement to draw attention to the fact that a small handful of people control almost all the wealth in the country. The term is a battle cry for social justice, equity and the redistribution of wealth.

Some bright spark locally decided to take the term and make it a racial shorthand for Syrian, thereby undercutting the meaning of the term (and the movement) entirely. Now people hear 1% and start thinking about Indian, African, Syrian, Chinese, etc and fall back into the same divide-and-conquer strategy that (by design) removes any strength from the proletariat.

Lastly, Gary is wrong as hell. The man so upset about philip mouth that he calling everybody to abandon UNC and ban it from Parliament so Rowley get more years. Philip mouth so important? You think all the people suffering care about philip mouth?

Whole day I watching outside donno if somebody coming to rob and murder me for the small money i holding but that not important-- philip mouth is definitely the issue to vote on. I have female coworkers that does remind me of Andrea Bharatt and I know d kind of chit them have to deal with but Philip mouth is instead the issue to vote on. People ketching tail on minimum wage which is like $3000 a month and them should withhold their vote because philip mouth is making rich people feel bad??

gary himself is a good fella but he way out of touch with the population if he think that video is anything but awful disconnected garbage that he should personally hang his head in shame to have posted.

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby MaxPower » December 24th, 2024, 11:44 pm

GA - “Level the playing field”

I guess that does not apply to leveling the playing field with all the Forex.

Too much greed wars going on.

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Postby The_Honourable » December 25th, 2024, 4:57 pm

Comedy fest inside the COP :lol:


COP wrangles over party leadership

INTERIM Congress of the People (COP) political leader Prakash Ramadhar has called on interim party chairman Lonsdale Williams to provide him with pertinent information about the COP’s operations by December 27.

His call comes after a statement issued by Williams which said Ramadhar has not been chosen as COP interim leader.

In a signed letter dated December 23, bearing the COP’s insignia, Ramadhar said, “Given the urgency of the state of decay the party has been allowed to fall into, and the impending general elections, I require these reports to be presented to me on or before December 27, 2024.”

Ramadhar has asked Williams for information including a complete list of all national executive and national council members (elected or appointed, dates of their appointment and their titled positions), minutes of the last ten natex meetings, the financial health of the party (with a copy of current accounts detailing income and expenditure over the last three years) and a report on the current active membership of the party.

He said all of this is necessary for him “to ascertain the general health and status of the party and its organs.”

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/24/ramadh ... cember-27/


COP chairman responds to Ramadhar: Ask the party, not me

INTERIM Congress of the People (COP) chairman Lonsdale Williams has asked interim party leader Prakash Ramadhar to make his request to obtain certain information about the COP to the relevant authorities in the party and not to him.

Williams gave this response on December 25 to a written request on December 23 from Ramadhar for information pertaining to the financial and political status of the COP on or before December 27.

In an interview, Williams said, "Mr Ramadhar needs to pose that question to the national executive (natex) meeting to the relevant secretary."

He added, "Most of the questions that Mr Ramadhar has posed to me, should be dealt with by the relevant individuals."

Williams said Ramadhar needs to pose his questions to the right people and in the proper way.

He added he will make no further comment until the COP's natex meets to discuss the matters raised by Ramadhar.

Party officials, speaking under condition of anonymity, said Ramadhar would have issued a release which said party matters would be handled internally.

They found it strange that Ramadhar made the request that he has "in the public domain."

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/25/cop-ch ... ty-not-me/

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Postby paid_influencer » December 25th, 2024, 5:09 pm

allyuh fellas here does talk about chess moves,

if Kamla really send Ramadhar to take over COP and unite all the dissident third-parties

is game over for the PNM. I mean is already game-over as-is, but the kind of wipeout they going to get wipeout. The PNM might not recover from that for at least a few cycles

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Postby MaxPower » December 25th, 2024, 5:23 pm

paid_influencer wrote:allyuh fellas here does talk about chess moves,

if Kamla really send Ramadhar to take over COP and unite all the dissident third-parties

is game over for the PNM. I mean is already game-over as-is, but the kind of wipeout they going to get wipeout. The PNM might not recover from that for at least a few cycles


game over for PNM?

Lol no bro.

The same people who claim to be fed up, and enough is enough, are the same people who still end of voting for PNM.

Trinis doh vote on performance padna.

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Postby DMan7 » December 25th, 2024, 7:27 pm

Paid new years resolution is to become a comedian in 2025.

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Postby alfa » December 25th, 2024, 7:35 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Comedy fest inside the COP :lol:


COP wrangles over party leadership

INTERIM Congress of the People (COP) political leader Prakash Ramadhar has called on interim party chairman Lonsdale Williams to provide him with pertinent information about the COP’s operations by December 27.

His call comes after a statement issued by Williams which said Ramadhar has not been chosen as COP interim leader.

In a signed letter dated December 23, bearing the COP’s insignia, Ramadhar said, “Given the urgency of the state of decay the party has been allowed to fall into, and the impending general elections, I require these reports to be presented to me on or before December 27, 2024.”

Ramadhar has asked Williams for information including a complete list of all national executive and national council members (elected or appointed, dates of their appointment and their titled positions), minutes of the last ten natex meetings, the financial health of the party (with a copy of current accounts detailing income and expenditure over the last three years) and a report on the current active membership of the party.

He said all of this is necessary for him “to ascertain the general health and status of the party and its organs.”

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/24/ramadh ... cember-27/


COP chairman responds to Ramadhar: Ask the party, not me

INTERIM Congress of the People (COP) chairman Lonsdale Williams has asked interim party leader Prakash Ramadhar to make his request to obtain certain information about the COP to the relevant authorities in the party and not to him.

Williams gave this response on December 25 to a written request on December 23 from Ramadhar for information pertaining to the financial and political status of the COP on or before December 27.

In an interview, Williams said, "Mr Ramadhar needs to pose that question to the national executive (natex) meeting to the relevant secretary."

He added, "Most of the questions that Mr Ramadhar has posed to me, should be dealt with by the relevant individuals."

Williams said Ramadhar needs to pose his questions to the right people and in the proper way.

He added he will make no further comment until the COP's natex meets to discuss the matters raised by Ramadhar.

Party officials, speaking under condition of anonymity, said Ramadhar would have issued a release which said party matters would be handled internally.

They found it strange that Ramadhar made the request that he has "in the public domain."

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/25/cop-ch ... ty-not-me/

Imagine fighting over the leadership of a party that the average citizen didn't know still exists. The epitome of pathetic.
Anyone knows what the actual founder Dookeran up to these days? He was the only leader that coulda get my vote

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Postby pugboy » December 25th, 2024, 8:08 pm

pea is a similar
didn’t he resign when he claimed to bow out of politics after the cutarse he got last time
the pep membership could do him the same

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Postby alfa » December 25th, 2024, 8:49 pm

PEA resign and jump back in more times than Blue Star diner close and reopen back

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Postby MaxPower » December 25th, 2024, 8:54 pm

alfa wrote:PEA resign and jump back in more times than Blue Star diner close and reopen back


Lmao

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Postby pugboy » December 25th, 2024, 9:00 pm

he is a true floater
can’t flush it down

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Postby hover11 » December 26th, 2024, 8:50 am

Since when the 1 percent have time to get involved openly with politics? Showing clear who they are affiliated with?

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 26th, 2024, 9:42 am

April-May.... From what I'm hearing, let's see if that holds

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Postby VexXx Dogg » December 26th, 2024, 10:14 am

hover11 wrote:Since when the 1 percent have time to get involved openly with politics? Showing clear who they are affiliated with?

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GA calling out KPB for aligning to PEA's populist-slash-counterproductive rhetoric.

PEA on the anti-1% rant because it's a popular thing to do - likely tangential from the occupy wallstreet movement and similar.

GA kinda hit the nail on the head in that these businesses help churn the economy. Not just forex for the regular joe to buy-resell goods like what the popular comparison is doing. But they pay VAT. They pay income taxes. They employ people. I personally think the general public hate is misplaced. Kinda like anytime a normal businessman is doing well, the first thing the pusspussers do is whisper "drugs".

PEA comparing GA's political support to that of a church BBQ.
I guess he'll be the best to know. PEP has a stellar track record at the polls.

To the outsiders looking in - KPB is grasping at all straws to improve likelihood of a positive election outcome. Outsiders being non-traditional voters who have zero political alignment.

On the other hand, PNM is losing points because of the crime situation, the facade of a humming economy but the stark reality is different, obviously the forex situation, and the dangling salary negotiations whilst theirs is secured.

It's still the PNM's game to lose, but we as the NPC's gonna suffer no matter what.

NTA and PF not really on any election radar - they're just background noise.

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Postby hover11 » December 26th, 2024, 10:28 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:April-May.... From what I'm hearing, let's see if that holds
Isn't that a bit too soon, can they mamaguy the marginals with some makeshift policies by then to make it look like they have a handle on things?

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Postby DMan7 » December 26th, 2024, 10:33 am

Its going to be the latest possible date which is likely in August before budget.

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Postby paid_influencer » December 26th, 2024, 10:34 am

"outsiders" who don't vote under any circumstances are politically irrelevant, imo

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Postby paid_influencer » December 26th, 2024, 10:35 am

DMan7 wrote:Its going to be the latest possible date which is likely in August before budget.


between carnival and budget seems like the most likely. I doubt he waiting until the very last of the last week he could. man say he have things to do and people to see

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Postby sMASH » December 26th, 2024, 10:56 am

paid_influencer wrote:allyuh fellas here does talk about chess moves,

if Kamla really send Ramadhar to take over COP and unite all the dissident third-parties

is game over for the PNM. I mean is already game-over as-is, but the kind of wipeout they going to get wipeout. The PNM might not recover from that for at least a few cycles
Nah. Cause them smaller parties have no votes to contribute . ESPECIALLY in the marginals .

This election will come down to if pnmites decide to stay away from pnm in the marginals, and the Tobago seats .


As a matter of course , the small parties getting on so cantankerous , they liable to repel more supporters than attract .

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Postby Alpha_2nr » December 26th, 2024, 10:57 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
hover11 wrote:Since when the 1 percent have time to get involved openly with politics? Showing clear who they are affiliated with?

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GA calling out KPB for aligning to PEA's populist-slash-counterproductive rhetoric.

PEA on the anti-1% rant because it's a popular thing to do - likely tangential from the occupy wallstreet movement and similar.

GA kinda hit the nail on the head in that these businesses help churn the economy. Not just forex for the regular joe to buy-resell goods like what the popular comparison is doing. But they pay VAT. They pay income taxes. They employ people. I personally think the general public hate is misplaced. Kinda like anytime a normal businessman is doing well, the first thing the pusspussers do is whisper "drugs".

PEA comparing GA's political support to that of a church BBQ.
I guess he'll be the best to know. PEP has a stellar track record at the polls.

To the outsiders looking in - KPB is grasping at all straws to improve likelihood of a positive election outcome. Outsiders being non-traditional voters who have zero political alignment.

On the other hand, PNM is losing points because of the crime situation, the facade of a humming economy but the stark reality is different, obviously the forex situation, and the dangling salary negotiations whilst theirs is secured.

It's still the PNM's game to lose, but we as the NPC's gonna suffer no matter what.

NTA and PF not really on any election radar - they're just background noise.


That^^^ pretty much sums it up.

The UNC still hasn't realised, decades later, that they will always be judged by a different standard/yard-stick/whatever you want to call it, than the PNM.

And they also haven't realised that they will need to make significant changes to win the next election. Kamla is highly unpopular (unjustified or not - that's a separate discussion).

Fact is, PNM is on track to winning the next election.

The opposition needs to come up with an actual strategy, rather than mamoo-rumshop politics and ole-talk in order to win.

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Postby paid_influencer » December 26th, 2024, 11:04 am

people vote based on material conditions

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Postby hover11 » December 26th, 2024, 11:11 am

paid_influencer wrote:people vote based on material conditions
Exactly crime and the economy, almost everyone has been affected by crime and the economy stinks, is Trinidad in a better state than it was 10 years ago? Everyone knows the answer to such

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Postby VexXx Dogg » December 26th, 2024, 11:16 am

paid_influencer wrote:"outsiders" who don't vote under any circumstances are politically irrelevant, imo


There’s a difference between non-voters, and non-loyalists. I was really talking about the anti-grassroots type voters who actually think about the candidates on the slate instead of a party colour.

I voted in every single election since I was [emoji[emoji6]].

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Postby Dizzy28 » December 26th, 2024, 11:23 am

paid_influencer wrote:people vote based on material conditions
Lol!!!

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Postby paid_influencer » December 26th, 2024, 11:43 am

d hell is an anti-grassroots type voter?

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Postby The_Honourable » December 26th, 2024, 11:49 am

DMan7 wrote:Its going to be the latest possible date which is likely in August before budget.


I say August also

Rowley doesn't feel threatened by opposition forces at the moment. Imagine COP raise from the grave, slip and fall back in it.

He has 8 months remaining in his term so "snap" elections don't make any sense. I believe that after mid-year budget review, (generally held between April and June), he'll give the date and then is pace.

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