.::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

[EmilioA]

If these by elections are held in 9 months expect pnm to lose most.

doubt it. The best thing honestly is for Kamla and the Cabal to take a rest and just let the PNM run the country so we can see if they really will deliver or if they were on sheit, only time will tell. UNC had their opportunity and they screwed up big time.

But besides that Daran ask yourself this, do you seriously want to see or hear from Moonilal and Rambachan again? I don't think anyone wants to except maybe 50 people who profited big time.

theres very little room for doubt. with the instant upsurge in crime. if pnm dont get a handle on it they could get evacuated quite quickly. but i believe ppl will vote ilp. not unc.

ILP still exists ? Even Jack leave them.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

ILP is a dead party. They could not even win more than 400 vote per seat on average when Jack was there but them go win all the vote now after Jack abandon them?

Jack did what he set out to do he created ILP to bring down Kamla, he worked with the PNM to help achieve this. In return he got what he wanted they saved his ass from extradition. I have nothing against any of this, because I know the cabal did the same with Vasant Barath as they did with Jack except they did it in a smart way they put him to fight a seat they knew he would lose and they put Ganga Singh the non performer in the safest seat they could find. So I am pleased with how it all turned out. The cabal can only control Kamla, they cannot control people like Jack and Vasant so out they go.

[sMASH]

I hoped that more people understood that ILP wasn't intended as a real party. It was just a gimmick of a powerful person.

The man didn't even have a symbol chosen, and selected one from stock symbols.

UNC should stfu. No because they are tarnishing their image but because I hate whining.

#getridofwestministersystem

[bluesclues]

still they could send members to contest the seats and force a coalition with the pnm. so that is not a pure pnm government running the country. this would be good in my view. pnm needs oversight during their rule.

[Morpheus]

still they could send members to contest the seats and force a coalition with the pnm. so that is not a pure pnm government running the country. this would be good in my view. ALL PARTIES need oversight during their rule.

[RASC]

You listening to yourself ^^^

[The_Honourable]

they probably hoping that the budget will have cuts which will sway voters

EXACTLY! People will forget about prisongate, emailgate, section 34 etc once you interfere with their pockets. If the cuts are austerity-like within the next 2-3 years, and UNC have their way in the courts, Kamla have a big chance of coming back.

Dr. Rowley better hope that the world economic system don't suffer another crash. Many are sure a crash is coming but the question is when.

[Habit7]

UNC supporters hadda be really dumb if they see austerity with PNM is inevitable, but with UNC we can continue to have overpriced, past due date and grand projects with transfers and subsidies galore. All while not raising taxes.

The only ppl excited about the prospect of by-elections are diehard UNCites in Central, Oropouche and Siparia.

[Trinispougla]

Realistically, this move is probably going to set back Trinidad's race relations a further 25 years. The election has already done that, so we're probably at the point of the dawn of independence. Only thing is,we have low oil prices, serious social tensions and I think at this point an incident is inevitable. Trinidad has some serious questions to ask herself in the coming months and years. Whether we want to end up like Guyana and Fiji or we want to continue as the example of integration that has taken fifty plus years to create.

[j.o.e]

Realistically, this move is probably going to set back Trinidad's race relations a further 25 years. The election has already done that, so we're probably at the point of the dawn of independence. Only thing is,we have low oil prices, serious social tensions and I think at this point an incident is inevitable. Trinidad has some serious questions to ask herself in the coming months and years. Whether we want to end up like Guyana and Fiji or we want to continue as the example of integration that has taken fifty plus years to create.

Well said

[EmilioA]

still they could send members to contest the seats and force a coalition with the pnm. so that is not a pure pnm government running the country. this would be good in my view. pnm needs oversight during their rule.

Why PNM need to coalition with a party that cant win any seats ?

[bluesclues]

still they could send members to contest the seats and force a coalition with the pnm. so that is not a pure pnm government running the country. this would be good in my view. pnm needs oversight during their rule.

Why PNM need to coalition with a party that cant win any seats ?

not thinking party. but if the candidate is suitable why does it matter what party they from?

[EmilioA]

still they could send members to contest the seats and force a coalition with the pnm. so that is not a pure pnm government running the country. this would be good in my view. pnm needs oversight during their rule.

Why PNM need to coalition with a party that cant win any seats ?

not thinking party. but if the candidate is suitable why does it matter what party they from?

Because we talking about the actual voters of Trinidad --not a theoretical ideal voting population.

Exactly where any third party winning seats ?

[RASC]

Y'all living in the muthafreaking clouds. I swear.

Blues do you even do a study of the political landscape and the parties?
Think for a second what it is you're suggesting.

[bluesclues]

Y'all living in the muthafreaking clouds. I swear.

Blues do you even do a study of the political landscape and the parties?
Think for a second what it is you're suggesting.

its not happened in a long time. but the tide has to turn some time right? which is what people did this election. they expressed their disappointment with the performance of the unc government after they placed so much hope in them by voting them out. keith rowley is on probation.

[EmilioA]

Y'all living in the muthafreaking clouds. I swear.

Blues do you even do a study of the political landscape and the parties?
Think for a second what it is you're suggesting.

its not happened in a long time. but the tide has to turn some time right? which is what people did this election. they expressed their disappointment with the performance of the unc government after they placed so much hope in them by voting them out. keith rowley is on probation.

Moonilal in 2020 !!!!

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

^ Moonilal 2020 means PNM win 2020. He want the post but UNC hadda be insane to put him political leader

[sMASH]

Wrt blues:
What u talking about is changing the way the government is set up So that u don't need a party , and where one side rules over the other side.

The political divide feeds the racial divide inorder to survive, because the racial divide fuels the party with voting base.
When we vote is for a party which is camouflage for racial tribe.

When u can remove one side forming the government and the other side being the opposition, which is like one side winning and the other side losing, then u can be free to vote for a representative.
As long as the person who u chose to represent u wins their position, they should be part of the government.

What ever benefits or advantages by privileges or position, ministers get by being part of the party which forms the government, remove it. All representatives should have equal say, status, power, opportunity, authority, responsibility, and accountability.

We should vote for a PM separately from an MP. if u going up for PM u can't for up for MP,and vice versa.

Wwsnt should not have to vote in a new government, we should vote for a representative who would seek our interests when in government.

[bluesclues]

Wrt blues:
What u talking about is changing the way the government is set up So that u don't need a party , and where one side rules over the other side.

The political divide feeds the racial divide inorder to survive, because the racial divide fuels the party with voting base.
When we vote is for a party which is camouflage for racial tribe.

When u can remove one side forming the government and the other side being the opposition, which is like one side winning and the other side losing, then u can be free to vote for a representative.
As long as the person who u chose to represent u wins their position, they should be part of the government.

What ever benefits or advantages by privileges or position, ministers get by being part of the party which forms the government, remove it. All representatives should have equal say, status, power, opportunity, authority, responsibility, and accountability.

We should vote for a PM separately from an MP. if u going up for PM u can't for up for MP,and vice versa.

Wwsnt should not have to vote in a new government, we should vote for a representative who would seek our interests when in government.

no im talking about ppl vote based on candidate completely ignoring party. but judging candidate based on their track record and their speeches. splitting the vote enough to force dual and tri-party coalition governments. where no one party holds all the power of either ruling government or opposition. that way theyll all keep eachother on their toes trying to knock eachother out. squealing every time some hint of corruption take place.

the way i describe it is. politicians always playing the people against eachother. but with this voting style we'll be playing them against eachother. they will have to do their work properly or loss their position when they get ketch. in a structure that significantly increases the chances of them getting ketch and kicked out of politics because whistleblowers will be everywhere..

[EmilioA]

no im talking about ppl vote based on candidate completely ignoring party. but judging candidate based on their track record and their speeches. splitting the vote enough to force dual and tri-party coalition governments. where no one party holds all the power of either ruling government or opposition. that way theyll all keep eachother on their toes trying to knock eachother out. squealing every time some hint of corruption take place.
.

Exactly in which country is that the norm ?

[bluesclues]

no im talking about ppl vote based on candidate completely ignoring party. but judging candidate based on their track record and their speeches. splitting the vote enough to force dual and tri-party coalition governments. where no one party holds all the power of either ruling government or opposition. that way theyll all keep eachother on their toes trying to knock eachother out. squealing every time some hint of corruption take place.
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Exactly in which country is that the norm ?

this question has no relevance. this is not something ive seen another country do. im just saying, it would be a wise move imo if the populace could figure it out.

it is precisely this kamla wanted to prevent with the new voting system. that voting system was specifically designed to destroy any chance of a coalition government forming by having 'knockout rounds'. and the COP support it like some pusses not realizing it was a move designed to get rid of them as co-pilot so that the unc cabal could make full mass in government. but kamla head was so high in the clouds she didnt consider that she might lose the election. lol

[Redman]

no im talking about ppl vote based on candidate completely ignoring party. but judging candidate based on their track record and their speeches. splitting the vote enough to force dual and tri-party coalition governments. where no one party holds all the power of either ruling government or opposition. that way theyll all keep eachother on their toes trying to knock eachother out. squealing every time some hint of corruption take place.
.

Exactly in which country is that the norm ?

this question has no relevance. this is not something ive seen another country do. im just saying, it would be a wise move imo if the populace could figure it out.

it is precisely this kamla wanted to prevent with the new voting system. that voting system was specifically designed to destroy any chance of a coalition government forming by having 'knockout rounds'. and the COP support it like some pusses not realizing it was a move designed to get rid of them as co-pilot so that the unc cabal could make full mass in government. but kamla head was so high in the clouds she didnt consider that she might lose the election. lol

What that would lead to is a totally fractured parliament that would be unable to arrive at consensus...and therefore pass no law.

[desifemlove]

If these by elections are held in 9 months expect pnm to lose most.

doubt it. The best thing honestly is for Kamla and the Cabal to take a rest and just let the PNM run the country so we can see if they really will deliver or if they were on sheit, only time will tell. UNC had their opportunity and they screwed up big time.

But besides that Daran ask yourself this, do you seriously want to see or hear from Moonilal and Rambachan again? I don't think anyone wants to except maybe 50 people who profited big time.

theres very little room for doubt. with the instant upsurge in crime. if pnm dont get a handle on it they could get evacuated quite quickly. but i believe ppl will vote ilp. not unc.

you really expect PNM to solve crime in 9 days in office? eh? As if there were no murder spikes pre-July this year, eh?

[desifemlove]

they probably hoping that the budget will have cuts which will sway voters

EXACTLY! People will forget about prisongate, emailgate, section 34 etc once you interfere with their pockets. If the cuts are austerity-like within the next 2-3 years, and UNC have their way in the courts, Kamla have a big chance of coming back.

Dr. Rowley better hope that the world economic system don't suffer another crash. Many are sure a crash is coming but the question is when.

So it Rowley's fault that Kamla had five years to ensure better revenue streams, that he has to mek cuts? UNC supporter logic is grand, ent? jus like people chose not to vote for she cos dey does hate indo people, not by analysing she policies, not liking corruption, or other reasoned measures, ent?

[UML]

The PNM stated on their political platform they will solve crime, end corruption (first country in the world) and US$ will be flowing in the roads like milk and honey.

Still waiting 50 years now

[bluesclues]

no im talking about ppl vote based on candidate completely ignoring party. but judging candidate based on their track record and their speeches. splitting the vote enough to force dual and tri-party coalition governments. where no one party holds all the power of either ruling government or opposition. that way theyll all keep eachother on their toes trying to knock eachother out. squealing every time some hint of corruption take place.
.

Exactly in which country is that the norm ?

this question has no relevance. this is not something ive seen another country do. im just saying, it would be a wise move imo if the populace could figure it out.

it is precisely this kamla wanted to prevent with the new voting system. that voting system was specifically designed to destroy any chance of a coalition government forming by having 'knockout rounds'. and the COP support it like some pusses not realizing it was a move designed to get rid of them as co-pilot so that the unc cabal could make full mass in government. but kamla head was so high in the clouds she didnt consider that she might lose the election. lol

What that would lead to is a totally fractured parliament that would be unable to arrive at consensus...and therefore pass no law.

only if our representatives are truly unprofessional and unable to focus on the respective jobs at hand. which is also good.. because they will get kicked out of the political sphere when their unprofessionalism to teamwork as a patriot shows up.

boy is ban i lookin to ban all unsuitable politicians based on very high moral standards. to evict all the bad eggs through the type of population opinion processes that happen to ppl like ramlogan and room 201 etc. make they sh!t show up. kick them out so they could never return to politics again. and replace them. eventually.. we will remain only with meaningful and deserving members of parliament. and even to make the no confidence process a bit stronger and have more teeth and general consensus opinion strong enough to evict a prime minister of a party and have them replaced any time during their term.

e.g.. after the reshmi incident. kamla should have been evicted as leader of the unc. but since she would never evict herself. and since they held more seats in parliament a no confidence vote could never pass.

and remember also.. in light of the topic u brought up. giving one party too much seats is always recipe for trouble in a democracy. because they can always paint the picture that the majority supported each bill they wanted to pass and rejected each bill they wanted to reject. and 75% of the time, that so-called majority never heard of the bill, have no idea what it entails, could not even think far enough to fathom the ramifications of the passing of the bill. etc.

so the plan and strategy is to create coalition governments that force oversight of eachother during the 5 year period thereby reducing the success of corrupt practices. and to ensure that no one party gets to do what it wnts in parliament unobstructed by the vote because they already have a majority.

is called skills, education. and understanding the democratic system. my people.. they need these.

[fallen_angel]

how can I get in contact with sarah lisa boodoo?
I want to put my stamp on her ballot

[j.o.e]

The PNM stated on their political platform they will solve crime, end corruption (first country in the world) and US$ will be flowing in the roads like milk and honey.

Still waiting 50 years now

UML take something for that heartburn ...... Yuh sounding bitter gyal.

[goalpost]

how can I get in contact with sarah lisa boodoo?
I want to put my stamp on her ballot

How about shutting yuh chupid rotten kant

[goalpost]

Crime start to get bad when a party called UNC show up