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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby De Dragon » May 7th, 2022, 9:54 pm

Rovin wrote:28 million for a youth camp in chatham

dise a hotel for dat amt of $$$ orrr .....

Details?. Because Chatham already has a youth camp.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby Rovin » May 8th, 2022, 10:39 am

well according to d story ...

https://newsday.co.tt/2022/05/03/28m-in ... outh-camp/
Refurbishment and construction at the Chatham Youth Development Apprenticeship Centre will start this month at a cost of $28 million.

The contract for the works was awarded to the Maintenance Training and Security Company Ltd (MTS) and is expected to be completed in ten months.



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Steps are being taken to bring the Chatham Youth Camp back to its glory days.

Construction and refurbishment works, expected to cost $28 million, are set to begin in the coming weeks.

It is scheduled to be completed in ten months and the facility will be known as the Chatham Youth Development Apprenticeship Centre.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby gastly369 » May 8th, 2022, 10:50 am

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Postby hover11 » May 8th, 2022, 11:17 am

Rovin wrote:well according to d story ...

https://newsday.co.tt/2022/05/03/28m-in ... outh-camp/
Refurbishment and construction at the Chatham Youth Development Apprenticeship Centre will start this month at a cost of $28 million.

The contract for the works was awarded to the Maintenance Training and Security Company Ltd (MTS) and is expected to be completed in ten months.



https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/2 ... b7cef.html

Steps are being taken to bring the Chatham Youth Camp back to its glory days.

Construction and refurbishment works, expected to cost $28 million, are set to begin in the coming weeks.

It is scheduled to be completed in ten months and the facility will be known as the Chatham Youth Development Apprenticeship Centre.
Lol only the government will get an invoice for 28 million and say that was the best bid for a contract

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby zoom rader » May 8th, 2022, 12:44 pm

De Dragon wrote:
Rovin wrote:28 million for a youth camp in chatham

dise a hotel for dat amt of $$$ orrr .....

Details?. Because Chatham already has a youth camp.
That camp is for way would red government youths.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby shaneelal » May 11th, 2022, 7:52 pm

Imbert wants $3B more to spend
https://guardian.co.tt/business/imbert- ... 503b1ca729


The Dr Keith Rowley administration wants the Parliament to allocate another $3 billion for it to spend this fiscal year according to documents sent to Members of Parliament.

On Friday, the Standing Finance Committee will be asked to consider “the Provision of $3,081,703,900 to fund urgent and critical Recurrent and Capital Expenditure to September 30, 2022, in areas where insufficient or no allocation was provided.”

In October, Finance Minister Colm Imbert announced a budget of $52.4 million with an expected oil price of US$65 per barrel and gas set at $US$3.75 per mmbtu.

Energy prices have far exceeded these estimates as a result of the ongoing Russia/Ukraine conflict and tight supply/demand equilibrium in global energy markets.

Since the reading of the budget last October, the Government has raised the price of super and premium gasoline by $1 a litre, citing high energy prices and a burgeoning subsidy and diesel by 50 cents per litre.

In seeking the additional $3 billion, government has allocated 10 per cent of the increased budget to pay for the higher fuel subsidy, which moves from $400 million to $700M—a variation of $300 million.

On Tuesday, Energy Minister Stuart Young, in an interview on CNN, acknowledged that despite the favourable energy prices, the Government would have to use most of the additional revenue to cover bills and expenses.

According to Parliament’s Agenda, the decision to seek the increase in funding is as a result of the review of the Recurrent Expenditure and the Public Sector Investment Programme (PSIP) which was conducted by the Ministry of Finance.

The additional funding is being sought for 28 government ministries and agencies.
In the listing, more than half of the $3 billion sum is set to be allocated to transfers and subsidies, with $1,794,160,500 being requested.

Across the various agencies, a common request was made for additional funding to pay salaries or gratuities that were still outstanding to staff.

Having been a centre of the country’s response to the COVID pandemic, the Government will seek on Friday to bolster the Ministry of Health with an additional $362,887,700.

Of that amount, $12,500,000 is set to facilitate the acquisition of Covid-19 vaccines for children and adults.

T&T is currently awaiting vaccines which have been cleared for use by children aged 5-11.

The Government will seek an additional $408,400,000 for the Ministry of Public Utilities. The vast majority of the new allocation ($328,000,000) is to be given to the Water and Sewerage Authority.

The money is to allow Water and Sewerage Authority (WASA) to meet the payment of wages and salaries to September 30, 2022. The document lists this total at $150,248,000.

Another huge chunk of the allocation is part of the outstanding payment on a US$60 million loan facility to meet pament obligations to Desalcott. This item is listed at $161,325,000.

Another $35,000,000 is allocated to the Public Utilities Ministry for a Community Water Improvement Programme which is set to oversee 34 projects.

The Ministry of Public Utilities allocation also listed a request for $2,382,000 for a renewable energy incentive, namely the procurement of two Wind Lidar Units and ancillary equipment.

A request for $18,000,000 was also made for additional transmission Infrastructure to move power from TGU to National Grid. This sum will be used, according to the listing to facilitate the establishment of a Union Estate Gandhi Village 220kv Double Circuit.

A sum of $12,000,000 has also been requested to pay refunds owed to the Trinidad and Tobago Electricity Commission (T&TEC) arising from the 25% and 35% rebate granted to all Rate A (domestic) customer accounts with electricity billings of $300 or less.

The Ministry of Finance is set to request an additional $225,966,500, of which $125,966,500 is to be granted to supplement the Infrastructure Development Fund (IDF). This, the agenda stated would enable the Ministry of Trade and Industry to pay VAT and other costs associated with the Construction of the Phoenix Park Industrial Estate in the sum of $92,066,500.

This item also reportedly would facilitate the Ministry of National Security’s establishment of the South Office of the Immigration Division, which is set to be housed at a property located at 32 St James Street, San Fernando.

The Tobago House of Assembly is set to receive an additional $60,000,000.
This funding, the agenda stated, is to be used to facilitate the payment of outstanding debts to the National Helicopter Services Ltd (NHSL) for the period November 2019 to February 2022.

This has been listed at $27,800,000. The rest of the allocation is set cover money owed to T&TEC for the period 2017 to 2021, which was listed at $19,000,000.

The remainder of the allocation—$13,200,000 is expected to cover gratuities owed to individuals who completed contract appointments over the period 2017 to 2021.

The Office of the Prime Minister is set to request an additional $59,961,300.
$4,293,000 of that total is to be used to pay of outstanding fees owed to Commissioners and Legal Counsels who were appointed to a Commission of Enquiry to examine and enquire into aspects of the management of the land acquisition process carried out by the National Infrastructure Development Company Ltd (Nidco) with respect to the construction of the Solomon Hochoy Highway Extension from San Fernando to Point Fortin.

The Ministry of National Security will request a further $206,900,000. Much of the requested allocation is expected to be used to cover payments to staff with salaries and cost of living allowance totalling $16,000,000—overtime for monthly paid officers tallying $10,900,000, allowances—$9,000,000 and government’s contribution to NIS—$6,000,000.

The request was also made to cover shortfalls in allocations to enable the payments of remuneration to officers within the Fire Service and Prison Service for the period July to September 2022, the agenda said.

The Ministry of Housing and Urban Development will receive an additional $76,300,000 of which the bulk, $67,000,000, is expected to be used to allow the Housing Development Corporation to pay contractors for the provision of waste disposal, building maintenance and janitorial services.

The remaining $9.2m is set to facilitate payment of principal ($8,916,337) and interest ($383,663) on a Udecott three-year fixed rate term loan facility for the design and construction of Phase 1 of the Piccadilly Street Urban Regeneration Project.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2022, 7:36 am

Unc save all dis money for the red government to abuse .

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2022, 7:42 am

MNS paying a setta rent for ferris and he fadda in law buildings, why they doh go in the empty waterfront towers if they want to save money

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby wing » May 12th, 2022, 7:58 am

According to the figures they provided, the money will be spent on mostly paying public servants and subsidies. Nothing really for investment or development. Once again, it's the productive taxpayers who will foot the bill. If only the public service was more effecient.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby hover11 » May 12th, 2022, 8:11 am

wing wrote:According to the figures they provided, the money will be spent on mostly paying public servants and subsidies. Nothing really for investment or development. Once again, it's the productive taxpayers who will foot the bill. If only the public service was more effecient.
Makes sense to take a windfall and invest in recurring expenses PNM logic hmmm anyway without these establishments the private sector can't function so I fail to see your point yet again. Apparently public servants are exempted from paying taxes, lemme know na bro so I could inform payroll...Donkey logic

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2022, 9:12 am

wing wrote:According to the figures they provided, the money will be spent on mostly paying public servants and subsidies. Nothing really for investment or development. Once again, it's the productive taxpayers who will foot the bill. If only the public service was more effecient.
Yes it's "according to the figures they provided"

We don't know if this money will ever reach what they said its for.

We know for sure that this money will never reach the citizens that deserve it most.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby Rovin » May 12th, 2022, 11:24 am

other than all these billions being used "to keep public servants employed" what other benefits all of us really seeing ?

only thing we seeing is cost of everything going up, crime\violence up & ppl ketching dmc out here


treasury being drained with nothing to show for it but i guess kamla still teefin out d $$$ ent ... :roll:

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Postby hover11 » May 12th, 2022, 11:31 am

Rovin wrote:other than all these billions being used "to keep public servants employed" what other benefits all of us really seeing ?

only thing we seeing is cost of everything going up, crime\violence up & ppl ketching dmc out here


treasury being drained with nothing to show for it but i guess kamla still teefin out d $$$ ent ... :roll:
I read that they gonna use the money to pay wasa Salaries until September so what happens when December comes no foresight or vision just spinning top in mud. Instead of restructuring and sending home the overstaffed entity they just continue feeding it

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2022, 11:34 am

Rovin wrote:other than all these billions being used "to keep public servants employed" what other benefits all of us really seeing ?

only thing we seeing is cost of everything going up, crime\violence up & ppl ketching dmc out here


treasury being drained with nothing to show for it but i guess kamla still teefin out d $$$ ent ... :roll:
That money is not going to public servant, don't be fooled.

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Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2022, 11:35 am

hover11 wrote:
Rovin wrote:other than all these billions being used "to keep public servants employed" what other benefits all of us really seeing ?

only thing we seeing is cost of everything going up, crime\violence up & ppl ketching dmc out here


treasury being drained with nothing to show for it but i guess kamla still teefin out d $$$ ent ... :roll:
I read that they gonna use the money to pay wasa Salaries until September so what happens when December comes no foresight or vision just spinning top in mud. Instead of restructuring and sending home the overstaffed entity they just continue feeding it
They gaslight the public to believe this in order to start house tax.

Trini is a land of idiots that vote red

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby Rovin » May 12th, 2022, 11:39 am

if d govt keeps taking out hsf savings & borrowing loans , doesnt that mean in basic terms that it bust, using up more than is being earned, ppl done ketching dey royal but govt want to tax us more .... not accounting for how much $$$ is getting teef out & mismanaged\wasted

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Postby hover11 » May 12th, 2022, 11:40 am

Rovin wrote:if d govt keeps taking out hsf savings & borrowing loans , doesnt that mean in basic terms that it bust, using up more than is being earned .... not accounting for how much $$$ is getting teef out & mismanaged\wasted ...
Imagine they taking loans to manage recurring expenses that's like us taking loans to buy groceries who the firetruck does that and we allow them to continue this madness and rubbish

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby timelapse » May 12th, 2022, 1:36 pm

Greatest is the PNM.They raping the treasury,the economy and accountability.And their supporters drop their pants, drawers and bent over waiting for more.They really want this place turning into Somalia.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby De Dragon » May 12th, 2022, 5:48 pm

Taking bets on Faster getting sub contract from MTS.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby Rovin » August 29th, 2022, 1:08 pm

is how d country always have $$$ to build sports faculties but not for anything else ...


https://newsday.co.tt/2022/08/28/sport- ... torn-down/

Sport Minister: Jean Pierre Complex not safe, netball facility to be torn down


The Jean Pierre Complex – the national netball and multi-sport facility – will be torn down and rebuilt.

Minister of Sport and Community Development Shamfa Cudjoe confirmed the longstanding facility has finally run its course and must be reconstructed.

The complex is, so far, the only sporting venue given demolition orders while several other local stadia and arenas are queueing up for a comprehensive facelift.

Cudjoe was speaking at Friday’s signing-off on TT’s confirmation as host nation for the 2023 Commonwealth Youth Games (CYG), held at the Aquatic Centre in Balmain, Couva.

The nation’s mecca of sport, Hasely Crawford Stadium, which sits on the same compound as the Jean Pierre Complex in Port of Spain, is also being assessed for the extent of work to be done on its structure.

“For Jean Pierre Complex and Hasely Crawford Stadium, there is a school of thought that the latter could be refurbished. But we know definitely Jean Pierre has to come down. It’s not safe to have people go into the pavilions, and so on,” Cudjoe said.

The complex was not reopened for sporting activity when pandemic restrictions were lifted in February owing to ongoing structural assessments.

Since the venue was opened in 1979 to host the World Netball Championship, there has never been any major structural rehabilitation.

Cudjoe said the complex is in dire need of a total overhaul and its infrastructure is “outdated.”

“The tricky thing about it is that these facilities were built over 40 years ago, and the work as it relates to plumbing and so on, is done underground, so there’s problems with that.

“The water supply, among other issues causes us to now have to really dig up and get down to the bottom (building foundation) before you fix it.”

The complex is the official home of TT netball but is also used for basketball, volleyball, table tennis, badminton and other sports.

Newsday recently visited the sports venue which is in a visible state of disrepair. Derelict playing courts, broken furniture and electrical, leaky spots, non-functional bathroom facilities are among a lengthy list of internal and external structural issues there.

The complex is named after Eugenia "Jean" Pierre who starred for the 1979 TT team that shared the World Championship with Australia and New Zealand. She later became minister of sport from 1991-95.

The Sport Company of TT (SporTT) is responsible for the construction and upgrade of recreation grounds for community-level sport and physical activity, as well as the operation and maintenance of high-quality sport facilities for national and elite athletes.

Its chairman Douglas Camacho said, on Saturday, knocking down and rebuilding the complex is part of its plans. The complex, like several others facilities built decades ago, is in need of modern restructuring.

“There were engineering assessments being done on it to determine whether it should come down or not. Because it’s a very dated stadium. It was built in a time, fashion and style that they would hardly do nowadays.

“In the modern world you can’t put pipes and electrical wires in the ground where you have to break walls and flooring to get to them. Now everything is installed with sleeves and conduits and it must be up to the new standards.”

Camacho said although the venue boasts a rich sporting history, an overhaul may be the best option. He even suggested that it will probably cost less to demolish the structure and rebuild it.

However, with TT confirmed as the 2023 CYG hosts, Camacho said priority will be placed on venues such as the Aquatics Centre, National Cycling Centre, Dwight Yorke and Ato Boldon stadia which serve as host venues.

The Jean Pierre Complex and Hasely Crawford Stadium will not be used for the CYG and preliminary works are tentatively set to begin after the games, in late 2023, early 2024.

On the possible timeline for Jean Pierre’s reconstruction, Camacho said, “That will take a lot longer because over the fiscal year 2022/2023, which starts in October until September next year, it’s going to be the ones (venues) for the CYG.

The derelict outdoor court at the Jean Pierre Complex in Port of Spain. -

“It’s unlikely the heavy work will begin on Jean Pierre. What will probably happen is the going out for expressions of interest, architects to put forward designs and all the preliminary work for a decision to be made as to what they’re going to go with, and then to build it.”

For projects of that magnitude, SporTT usually partners with Udecott for the construction, while it serves as project management.

He anticipates this is the model that will be used for Jean Pierre.

Hasely Crawford Stadium

A final decision on the future of Hasely Crawford Stadium, remains unclear.

Camacho added, “The national stadium is still in reasonable working condition but with a lot of issues that keep cropping up. So a proper review is being done to determine if it makes sense to try to refurbish and retrofit or does it make more sense to knock it down and rebuild. But I don’t think a firm decision has been made on that.”


Renovations, however, at other local stadia will be done in phases. Cudjoe said that Udecott is currently doing a review of all sporting facilities to determine the way forward.

She confirmed the Manny Ramjohn and Larry Gomes stadia are two sites earmarked for refurbishment.

“Works cannot all happen in this fiscal year, that’s why we’re doing it in phases. We may take the more important areas first whether it’s (fixing) the lighting or restrooms (of the stadia).”

SporTT awaits the assessment findings of each venue and will work with the Sports Ministry to determine what renovations are required at which facilities.

The minister said structural assessments are ongoing at local stadia as they prepare to welcome the world.

“If we’re thinking about really hosting international games and becoming that hub for sporting development in the Caribbean where we can host sport tourism events, then these works are crucial.

“The CYG will help kick start further development to Dwight Yorke Stadium (Tobago), Ato Boldon Stadium (Couva) and other stadia,” said Cudjoe.

The Dwight Yorke Stadium has already been confirmed as the official CYG venue for athletics. The CYG committee is still working out the logistics to host beach volleyball at Pigeon Point and the triathlon in Buccoo.

Additionally, the Aquatic Centre and National Cycling Centre in Balmain will feature the CYG’s swimming and cycling events, with the nearby Ato Boldon Stadium also expected to be named an official venue.

If tennis is confirmed to be held as a CYG sport, the National Racquet Centre, Tacarigua will be used.

“This is just the beginning of our refurbishment or rebuilding. But, there are some facilities that have to be taken down and built from the ground up again, like the Jean Pierre Complex,” said Cudjoe.

During Finance Minister Colm Imbert’s budget presentation last year, he announced that the Sports Ministry’s 2021 allocation of $404,613.209 for recurrent expenditure was revised to $347,233.837, and the allocation for the fiscal year 2022 was $427,208,000.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby matix » August 29th, 2022, 1:29 pm

Priorities boy Rovin

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby sMASH » August 29th, 2022, 5:19 pm

No money to fix road but....

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby hover11 » August 29th, 2022, 5:46 pm

For a country that has an empty treasury we sure are spending on alot of unnecessary things

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby adnj » August 29th, 2022, 6:37 pm

Time to pay for your national tourism industry.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby hover11 » August 29th, 2022, 7:42 pm

There is something called time and place.....doesn't make sense tourists come here to see a stadium and in fear of being shot or robbed or hitting the deepest potholes they ever seen to reach there
adnj wrote:Time to pay for your national tourism industry.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby adnj » August 29th, 2022, 9:01 pm

hover11 wrote:There is something called time and place.....doesn't make sense tourists come here to see a stadium and in fear of being shot or robbed or hitting the deepest potholes they ever seen to reach there
adnj wrote:Time to pay for your national tourism industry.

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Yep. The murder rate keeps people and their tourism dollars out of Belize (US$500 million) and Jamaica (US$3 billion).

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby pugboy » August 29th, 2022, 9:19 pm

tourists to jamaica go to specific places by and large though, incl all inclusive resorts
and the govt makes sure those areas have strong enforcement

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby hover11 » August 29th, 2022, 10:19 pm

Correct, the government in Jamaica impose SOEs in high traffic areas
pugboy wrote:tourists to jamaica go to specific places by and large though, incl all inclusive resorts
and the govt makes sure those areas have strong enforcement

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby adnj » August 29th, 2022, 10:42 pm

Toddlers walking the street at night with a butcher's knife and Jamaica still gets nearly ten times the visitors that Trinidad does.

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Re: The Treasury empty but we spending on

Postby pugboy » August 29th, 2022, 10:48 pm

jamaica physically is much diff to here though
i been a few times well and to various parts
because of the size and demographics it’s a lot more separated between the pests and non pest folks neighborhood wise
unlike here where you are within a mile or two of any pest nest

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