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metalgear2095 wrote:rodfarva wrote:honda hoe wrote:so what if sony launch late nex console cycle?
last cycle ps2 launched a year after dreamcast and destroyed it
this generation the wii released last.. with older tech... and outsold everyone
speedfreak.. like u start start gaming when black ops come out (no i don't care whether u played on your big brother's super nintendo)
whole paragraphs u wasting ppl time reading and is ah set of nonsense u always rambling
where's the ignore button
Dreamcast didnt have developer support & Wii is a somewhat different console.
I think that the 360 and ps3 are on the same footing with regard to the type of console and the gamer appeal. They can compete. So it is very important who releases the next gen console first.
Once there is a fanbase, developers will flock to it... at the end of the last gen, Sony was the unquestionable king of the Console gaming industry. That has changed for a few reasons:
360 was released first
360's hardware was easier to code for
360 was cheaper
XBOX Live was already well established and only got better
Now that PSN took this huge hit, it only makes things worsenoshownogo wrote:rodfarva wrote:Well, at least by next console life cycle, the Playstation Brand will be almost dead
You feel so? This generation of gaming has been overall lackluster IMO but Sony and the Playstation brand is going no where.
Another thing is that I think sony's PS3 will have a longer shelf life than the 360 because of its graphical and processing capabilities. But in the end wouldnt that work out to Sony's disadvantage, since it will force Microsoft to drop a new console sooner than Sony would like to?
makes sense. sony will be forced to launch when microsoft does. i doubt they will be unprepared as before. they will lose money again but it won't be as bad as before
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Only reason 360 was ahead of the PS3 was because of the Price.
It was cheaper. Sony needs to learn this. in my opinion PS3 never needed a Blu Ray player.
Is just that Sony has a tradition of releasing the best and greatest regardless of price. Just look how expensive their HDTV and other electronics are. But its usually the best.
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Actually speedfreak I must agree with Honda hoe.
The Playstation brand on the whole is better than XBOX. The whole idea of proprietary is always more appealing. Everybody know Microsoft and are pretty much used to it. Microsoft Game Studio dont sound as sophisticated as Sony Computer Entertainment.
If you look at say PS3 Menu system its very Apple Like. The graphics and stuff is like if Sony hired Apple to design their GUI. Sales on PS3 vs 360 is pointless.
Also ask anyone on steam forums. Games for Windows Live By Microsoft is a curse to PC gaming. The whole reason that so many PC games do so bad in sales is not piracy but GFWL itself. People prefer steamworks. Thats why steamworks titles does better. You don't see valve complaining about poor games sales now do you.
So seriously Microsoft kinda fails in Gaming. After having a taste of their GFWL I didn't want anything to do with them. I wanted something new and sophisticated. Heck PS3 even uses Nvidia GPU.
Owning a xbox is like owning a AMD and owning a PS3 is like owning a Intel. Its as simple as that
Owning a PS3 in the console world is also like owning a Apple in the phone world.
The design, marketing and power easily destroys the 360.
I think what a lot of gamers prefer in the 360 is the controller and I think sony needs to address this. If I had both consoles I would buy multi platform games only for the 360 because of its superior controller minus fighting games offcourse. Sucks badly on 360 dpad crap. XBOX clearly has its advantages.
But now in 2011 its lost that grip to sony. Sony has all the exclusives that people want. Why would anyone buy a 360 now? it makes no sense. Back in 2006 yeah maybe but not anymore.
Just look at Forza, that game is a Joke compared to Gran Turismo 5 and an imitation.
Look at the time and money Sony spent on GT5. Anything that tries to compete with that is a Joke. Sony is very serious about first party gaming. They do not mix matters. When they make a game they destroy everyone. Same with Nintendo. Nintendo first party games is immortal in the gaming world.
But what good first party games xbox has? Halo? thats a joke if you ask me.
I rather get God of War series. Greek Mythology > Over used stale Space Marines FPS anyday.
rodfarva wrote:EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Actually speedfreak I must agree with Honda hoe.
The Playstation brand on the whole is better than XBOX. The whole idea of proprietary is always more appealing. Everybody know Microsoft and are pretty much used to it. Microsoft Game Studio dont sound as sophisticated as Sony Computer Entertainment.
If you look at say PS3 Menu system its very Apple Like. The graphics and stuff is like if Sony hired Apple to design their GUI. Sales on PS3 vs 360 is pointless.
Also ask anyone on steam forums. Games for Windows Live By Microsoft is a curse to PC gaming. The whole reason that so many PC games do so bad in sales is not piracy but GFWL itself. People prefer steamworks. Thats why steamworks titles does better. You don't see valve complaining about poor games sales now do you.
So seriously Microsoft kinda fails in Gaming. After having a taste of their GFWL I didn't want anything to do with them. I wanted something new and sophisticated. Heck PS3 even uses Nvidia GPU.
Owning a xbox is like owning a AMD and owning a PS3 is like owning a Intel. Its as simple as that
Owning a PS3 in the console world is also like owning a Apple in the phone world.
The design, marketing and power easily destroys the 360.
I think what a lot of gamers prefer in the 360 is the controller and I think sony needs to address this. If I had both consoles I would buy multi platform games only for the 360 because of its superior controller minus fighting games offcourse. Sucks badly on 360 dpad crap. XBOX clearly has its advantages.
But now in 2011 its lost that grip to sony. Sony has all the exclusives that people want. Why would anyone buy a 360 now? it makes no sense. Back in 2006 yeah maybe but not anymore.
Just look at Forza, that game is a Joke compared to Gran Turismo 5 and an imitation.
Look at the time and money Sony spent on GT5. Anything that tries to compete with that is a Joke. Sony is very serious about first party gaming. They do not mix matters. When they make a game they destroy everyone. Same with Nintendo. Nintendo first party games is immortal in the gaming world.
But what good first party games xbox has? Halo? thats a joke if you ask me.
I rather get God of War series. Greek Mythology > Over used stale Space Marines FPS anyday.
Im not trying to be an assho1e but, I think you just surpassed JJ16 in talking 500lbs of sh1t
speedfreak99 wrote:Some of your points are valid effecticand I take note on the pc gaming issue. But i cant understand that "shoot the messenger" mentality from hondahoe when facts are available throughout the breath of the internet. Hoe boy even if my picture looking blurry it wasnt me eh dred!!!!! Careful !!!!...but look now i have to defend myself
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I spend enough time not playing PS3 to make a clear observation when stats are published. I mean seriously? i have to paste links in here for each fact i present? My point wasn't which hardware was better, nor exclusives.
I was comparing business models for each. The PS3 got in behind the curve, making a spectacular messy splash, operated in red until the slim. Its more expensive to code for the PS3, resulting in plenty multi-platforms looking and operating better on a cheaper XBOX than one featuring the all mighty CELL (from DBZ).
I have owned all Playstation consoles. I prefer Playstation, but it doesn't take much to see that the PS3 and by extension the Sony brand took a huge hit, even before the damned hackers (Console wise and PSN). This console cycle featured online gaming and Microsoft beat Sony, proving that they knew all along the deciding factor would have never been overall console sales but an engaged consumer base (just like apple...ironically) hence their lack of complacency where their XBOX brand was concerned...(Sony?)
PS3 fanboys eh easy oui. Dey last but dey first. Just like dem vtec ricers
EVA Unit-01 wrote:OMG! can you guys just PM each other your phone #s and discuss this sh!t there please?
nobody gives a fack which console better, if you read the title of the thread it covers ALL OF THEM. everyone kinda realized by now that the war is over, gamers go where their games are and real gamers have both (or three)
if you can't afford both, then STFU and play what you could afford! none ah alyuh workin for Sony or MS, so i don't kno YTF alyuh bothered by business plans wen u can't do nuttin even if d company wuz goin out of fackin bizniz...
jesis kryst, i can't rem the last post about a GAME in this threadi even startin 2 miss dem BlOps men talkin bout sh!t i don't care bout, oui...
EVA Unit-01 wrote:if you can't afford both, then STFU and play what you could afford!
EVA Unit-01 wrote:OMG! can you guys just PM each other your phone #s and discuss this sh!t there please?
casper wrote:RapToR wrote:
when????
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