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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby paid_influencer » June 2nd, 2024, 3:57 pm

^100% true.

pople would be surprised what showing up every day and being pleasant can do career-wise. Venes know that and they are gainfully employed everywhere as a result.

protip:
the cxc subjects and work experience really is just a low-specificity screening for people who went to work/school every day

nobody cares if you passed French or Geography or worked at some random company for a few years. What employers do care about is that you have shown a certain willingness to eat a certain amount of chit and say it tastes delicious.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » June 2nd, 2024, 4:06 pm

pugboy wrote:punctuality often trumps qualifications
just saying
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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matix » June 2nd, 2024, 4:07 pm

alfa wrote:

First temples flying Palestinian flags now sdms taking in vene children, like allyuh want to kill slims this morning




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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 2nd, 2024, 4:10 pm

pugboy wrote:punctuality often trumps qualifications
just saying


Well said pug, well said.

Venezuelans are proven and preferred by many businesses nationwide.

Are they the “best”? Definitely not, many are actually a WOFT, but, they are generally better than the average Trini.

When locals fail, it’s usually followed by “better i hire a Vene”

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MG Man » June 3rd, 2024, 8:31 am

kinda like when tradesmen were complaining that guyanese were takig their construction jobs, when reality was the guyanese guys worked harder, neater

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 3rd, 2024, 9:37 am

My barber is Venezuelan. His wife works an 8-5 during the day and on weekends sells Venezuelan foods. And recently he started selling fish.

Last year when I did two separate home reno projects the second contractor had a Venezuelan workman. His masonry work was significantly better than the Jamaican mason who the Guyanese roof man had used earlier on in the year.

There are some of them here with the most extreme work ethic and are quite productive and talented


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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 3rd, 2024, 10:15 am

Sorry to say, but the absolute WORST workmanship i ever had was from a Trini.

I will not write off my fellow countrymen totally, but, if you doing work for me, you better come with strong recommendations and money paying AFTER.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » June 3rd, 2024, 10:42 am

My farm labour is a vene family.
Was lucky that they also came from cattle farming. How many trinis know about cattle.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Chimera » June 3rd, 2024, 10:43 am

Dizzy28 wrote:My barber is Venezuelan. His wife works an 8-5 during the day and on weekends sells Venezuelan foods. And recently he started selling fish.

Last year when I did two separate home reno projects the second contractor had a Venezuelan workman. His masonry work was significantly better than the Jamaican mason who the Guyanese roof man had used earlier on in the year.

There are some of them here with the most extreme work ethic and are quite productive and talented


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like d only thing trini on yuh work site is the cement

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 17th, 2024, 11:06 am

As millions of Venezuelans head to the polls next month for their country's presidential elections, local migrants are closely monitoring developments from T&T.
But the outcome of the elections will decide whether or not some migrants return home for good.


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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby maj. tom » June 17th, 2024, 11:14 am

I think that the outcome of the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election is already known.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby redmanjp » June 17th, 2024, 11:21 am

hope they dont exclude local children to make room for them

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 17th, 2024, 11:51 am

redmanjp wrote:hope they dont exclude local children to make room for them


red,

There is always room for local children. The opportunities are there.

Locals in board house studying with candle and getting scholarships.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby bluefete » August 2nd, 2024, 6:14 am

Well, I suppose we have finally gotten the answer to the question title.

So Illegal people being rewarded by the High Court.

Venes and others will be lining up to get free money.

And yes, I do have sympathy for the children.

High Court gone mad.


3 Vene children to get $1.27 million
Unlawful detention


THE High Court has directed that the Office of the Attorney General pay a combined total of $1.27 million to three Venezuelan children for their unlawful two-month detention at a Chaguaramas heliport.

Master Shurlanne Pierre on Tuesday directed that the State pay each of the children, ages 12, seven and two, $425,000 plus interest “for the ordeal they suffered” and the “torturous acts committed against very young children”.

The money is to be paid into the court and will then be placed in an interest-bearing account by the registrar of the High Court.

They will not be allowed to access the money until they attain the age of 18, but in the interim, their mother may apply to the court for access to funds from the account to meet their immediate needs.

The siblings and their mother were detained at the heliport from December 15, 2020, to February 17, 2021. A deportation order was issued for the mother on January 12, 2021, but not the children.

They had formed part of a larger group of Venezuelans who arrived in this country on board a pirogue on November 17, 2020. When they first arrived, the group was detained by police and later escorted out of local waters by the Coast Guard in the same vessel on which they had arrived.

On November 24, however, the group again illegally entered Trinidad and, for a second time, was detained by police. They were detained under quarantine, then at the Erin Police Station and finally at the heliport.

In making her order, Master Pierre said in addition to the children being unlawfully detained, they were kept in a facility where there were no provisions for their recreational or educational welfare.

“There were no play areas which, we know, are quite important for children,” she said.

In June 2020, the heliport was established by then-national security minister Stuart Young as a quarantine and detention centre to house people who were detained by the immigration department during the Covid-19 pandemic.

In July 2023, National Security Minister Fitzgerald Hinds designated the Heliport an immigration detention centre after the High Court ruled that the facility, at the time, was not a designated detention centre as prescribed for in the Immigration Act.

The judge found that the designation had an end date for when the pandemic was officially declared over.

Boy awarded $2.5m

In March, Justice Margaret Mohammed ordered that a 15-year-old Venezuelan boy be compensated in the sum of $2.5 million, exclusive of interest, after he was unlawfully detained at the heliport for 456 days—from December 15, 2020, to March 16, 2022.

He is also unable to access the funds until he attains the age of 18.

In that matter, Justice Mohammed said based on the evidence, the conditions of detention at the Heliport where the boy was detained for the entire period were “appalling and totally unsuitable for a minor”.

“In assessing the effects of the appalling conditions on the Claimant one must attempt to look at it from the perspective of a minor and not as an adult.

“I accept that the Claimant was with his mother (name called) during the entire period of detention. While this would have given the Claimant a little degree of comfort, that does not minimise the severe trauma and psychological effects suffered by the Claimant as (his mother) also faced the same conditions at the Heliport and her evidence was that she felt a sense of helplessness in not being able to assist the Claimant,” said Justice Mohammed.

The judge also said it was unacceptable for the boy to not be separated from adults in both the quarantine and dormitory area.

Attorneys Gerald Ramdeen and Dayadai Harripaul represented all of the children and their mothers in the constitutional claims.
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 24568.html

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby pugboy » August 2nd, 2024, 7:22 am

that is a crazy figure by any stretch for any court award in the history of this country
no doubt the “pro bono” lawyers smiling with their signed client agreements

if that is so then persons who got wrongfully imprisoned should get tens of millions

aside it is terrible that heinz didn’t setup the place as a proper detention centre esp knowing them venes have plenty lawyers looking to eat ah food

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby pugboy » August 2nd, 2024, 7:22 am

how them venes affording school booklists ?
i hear primary school book list is thousands now

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » August 2nd, 2024, 7:24 am

bluefete wrote:Well, I suppose we have finally gotten the answer to the question title.


Correct.

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Postby zoom rader » August 2nd, 2024, 8:06 am

pugboy wrote:how them venes affording school booklists ?
i hear primary school book list is thousands now
School grants

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby paid_influencer » August 2nd, 2024, 8:10 am

pugboy wrote:how them venes affording school booklists ?
i hear primary school book list is thousands now


nah it not that much. also could go down by a lot using used books and shopping around. uniforms is a raise tho ngl

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » August 2nd, 2024, 8:11 am

I must say it is a plus to have vene kids in schools.

If black child mothers & Fadda continue as the way they are then Rowlee call for people to claim their blackness is a bogus.

Like I said PNM is racist towards African people.


Kick PNM out

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Postby MaxPower » August 2nd, 2024, 7:07 pm

zoom rader wrote:Like I said PNM is racist towards African people.


Z,

Our African brothers and sisters are generally satisfied with the PNM.

Enough satisfaction to win an election.

PNM wont be kicked out.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby 88sins » August 4th, 2024, 1:27 am

zoom rader wrote:I must say it is a plus to have vene kids in schools.

If black child mothers & Fadda continue as the way they are then Rowlee call for people to claim their blackness is a bogus.

Like I said PNM is racist towards African people.


Kick PNM out


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Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2024, 5:32 am

ignorance is really bliss

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Like I said PNM is racist towards African people.


Z,

Our African brothers and sisters are generally satisfied with the PNM.

Enough satisfaction to win an election.

PNM wont be kicked out.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » August 4th, 2024, 5:01 pm

pugboy wrote:ignorance is really bliss

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Like I said PNM is racist towards African people.


Z,

Our African brothers and sisters are generally satisfied with the PNM.

Enough satisfaction to win an election.

PNM wont be kicked out.
They will continue eating grass


Kick PNM out

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Postby MaxPower » August 19th, 2024, 6:58 pm

Cantmis wrote:https://youtu.be/eitomutxQYU?si=X8sDlXxUuOLVdWhg

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Irrelevant to thread bro but thanks for the video.

The only gangs terrorizing innocent T&T citizens are the Trini gangs.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby VII » August 30th, 2024, 3:04 pm

That could go awfully bad, if you think TTPS corrupt, you never hear bout Vene police ..

Although a novel idea, this could do more bad than good, empowering Vene criminals more than anything else, can't risk having Milandro Moles in the TTPS...

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » August 30th, 2024, 3:15 pm

Allyuh know Erla believe in the Almighty.

A man of God gave her advice and she may just well heed it.

Imagine some Vene policia hitting allyuh some slap.

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Postby VII » August 30th, 2024, 5:37 pm

Hitting who 'allyuh' ? And who's 'allyuh' ?

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